more garage painters at work!!, painting Jim's 205WRC parts! finshed pics PG4 Options

[presure2]

hey all, as most of ya know, i have been working at the local maaco, and have been painting there for the past year or so, well, that has come to an end, but that dont mean i've stopped painting!

it was fun while it lasted, and i got what i wanted out of the job:
i LEARNED.
last night, i preped up and painted jims gt-4 hood and parts for his car, and painted them in my garage.
here are a couple pics i snapped this morning after they were dry.







these last 2 are reflection shots. this is before wetsanding and buffing, since the parts were just painted last night. ill post more when they are done and on the car.





later today i will paint the gt-4 bumper and the forgmann lip.

more pics to come!

[stetsonaw]

looking good

[manphibian]

Good work, i thought the first hand reflection pic was cracks in the paint for a second....! Shoulda known better

[96bluevert]

Wow, nice work!

[95st-celica]

Good work, i thought the first hand reflection pic was cracks in the paint for a second....! Shoulda known better

yea i thought it was a couple runs!!! good work though man, painting at your house really isnt all that bad...just gotta be carfull with dirt and stupid stuff like that...i have been painting at my house for a while now with pretty good results...looks good though man keep up the good work!

[808celica]

:woot: that's one sexy blue color

[RickJamesBish]

Looks very good.

[supershannon77]

Wow Manny..looks real good I cant wait to see it all complete!

Yea I love that blue Def was the first thing that stood out wen I originally bought the car..Its Electron Blue Pearl... Its one of my fav colors on the celica. I think Jim and his brother at one time were talking about changing it and making it darker..I was hoping it was just talk bc I would have been a lil sad to see this car lose this color.

[_Jim_]

:woot: that's one sexy blue color

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I fall in love with this color every time I walk outside and see her sitting there.

Wow Manny..looks real good I cant wait to see it all complete!

Yea I love that blue Def was the first thing that stood out wen I originally bought the car..Its Electron Blue Pearl... Its one of my fav colors on the celica. I think Jim and his brother at one time were talking about changing it and making it darker..I was hoping it was just talk bc I would have been a lil sad to see this car lose this color.

Don't worry Shannon, this was more Joe then me when he had the car.....so don't worry, I wont be changing a thing with this color.

[TheMadScientist]

I love blue and that is a sexy color!!! What color of blue is that?

[presure2]

I love blue and that is a sexy color!!! What color of blue is that?

its a honda color, electron blue pearl, the paint code is B95P

[azian_advanced]

the same color they put on their later-spec preludes? i love that color!

[Random_Stranger]

Looking good Manny, you are quite the painter!

[Cuts_the_Pilot]

bit off topic, but those of you with GT-Four bonnets that are in their factory paint, whats your plastics like, as per pressures second pic.

I think the paint reacted with the plastic a bit cause its gone a bit odd. kinda looks like its got real shallow scratches (can only see from real close).

anyone else had this?

[presure2]

bit off topic, but those of you with GT-Four bonnets that are in their factory paint, whats your plastics like, as per pressures second pic.

I think the paint reacted with the plastic a bit cause its gone a bit odd. kinda looks like its got real shallow scratches (can only see from real close).

anyone else had this?

that sounds like a preperation issue.
oddly enough, the vents are METAL on this hood, must be a WRC thing, cause mine arnt IIRC.

[Batman722]

Looks Great Manny !

[njccmd2002]

Can you post the specs of your sprayer, gun, compressor? Nice work.

[presure2]

Can you post the specs of your sprayer, gun, compressor? Nice work.

sure,
my gun is a devilbiss GTI HVLP gun, with a 1.3mm fluid tip.
the compressor is not really up to the job, its a 26 gallon craftsman, its big enough, but the motor just dont have the ummph to keep up, so with it i spray right at the edge of not enough air pressure, and stick to doing smaller parts (the hood is the largest part i've sprayed in the garage.)
i need a few more upgrades that will come over time, but for where im at right now, im pretty happy with how it looks, the dupont chromabase i used matches very well with the paint that is on the car, which is a beautiful thing, and the 2 little kerosene heaters i use get the garage just barely warm enough (~55-60*F)so that the clear flows out and dries well.
i will post a few pics of that later, im going out to the garage in a few to finish prep and paint the bumper and lip, ill post some pics of that as well when im done with those.


thanks for the compliments all, ill be sure to post some finished up pics once its all back together and wetsanded and buffed!

[presure2]

ok so i took some pics of the hood on the car, and a few of the bumper and lip in progress.

im waiting for the sealer to dry now, then ill go out and base and clear them.

[808celica]

black primer??? you used the same for the hood??

[_Jim_]

the parts were white, jims car is electron blue pearl ,(honda B95P)so, i sanded them and preped them, then went to work, sealed the parts black, then hit them with some dupont chromabase basecoat, and the trusty old sherwin clear:

later today i will paint the gt-4 bumper and the forgmann lip.

Yes he did the same process.

[presure2]

black primer??? you used the same for the hood??

yes. well, technicly no, its black "sealer".
i perfer to use dark sealer under colors like this, you get better coverage, and it dont lighten the color like a white or light grey would.
more pics in a few of the bumper and lip, theyre painted.

[presure2]

done.













more pics later when the parts are dry.

[manphibian]

Looks delicious

[njccmd2002]

the fumes look like ready to spark. The blue is awesome

[_Jim_]

This is coming out purely amazing......Im going INSANE, I cant wait to see it all back together. Great work Manny!!!!

[Batman722]

great shine there

hope you didn't slip on any ice

[SeverX13]

Looks awesome! love the color. cant wait till jims celica is completly done!


Great work!

[Cuts_the_Pilot]

so the bonnet wing and the rear facing vent bits you were painting in the second pic on the first page are metal on yours? obviously mine is a Group A Rallye, which is the aus version with all of the go fast best goodies they made for 205's, would be interesting how yours are metal and mine arnt.

like i said mine is still under the same paint it left toyota with all those years ago. But yeah it does sound like prep or a reaction thing.

[808celica]

ahhhh i see. yeah i was thinking about that for my car. nice job manny

[presure2]

so the bonnet wing and the rear facing vent bits you were painting in the second pic on the first page are metal on yours? obviously mine is a Group A Rallye, which is the aus version with all of the go fast best goodies they made for 205's, would be interesting how yours are metal and mine arnt.

like i said mine is still under the same paint it left toyota with all those years ago. But yeah it does sound like prep or a reaction thing.

well, not mine, jims, but yes, they are metal, which i too found odd, ive never seen metal ones before, dustin jeff and i all have composite ones IIRC.

can you snap a couple pics of the vents and capture the defects?
a couple pics after a couple hrs of drying yesterday:

[RickJamesBish]

Looks great, great color, great looking work.

[presure2]

so, since the parts are all painted, and everything came off the clip jim bought, everything was dirty and dingy, so i decided to clean up the grills for the bumper this AM before i reassemble it.

a few before and after pics.









heres what i used to clean them up after i washed all the dirt off.

[GriffGirl]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, delicious indeed. That's the blue I had in that dream a few months back when I dreamed my Celica was almost electric blue, and well, basically yours, Manny.

[presure2]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, delicious indeed. That's the blue I had in that dream a few months back when I dreamed my Celica was almost electric blue, and well, basically yours, Manny.

lol griffy
thanks for the compliments!

[DEATH]

so the bonnet wing and the rear facing vent bits you were painting in the second pic on the first page are metal on yours? obviously mine is a Group A Rallye, which is the aus version with all of the go fast best goodies they made for 205's, would be interesting how yours are metal and mine arnt.

like i said mine is still under the same paint it left toyota with all those years ago. But yeah it does sound like prep or a reaction thing.

well, not mine, jims, but yes, they are metal, which i too found odd, ive never seen metal ones before, dustin jeff and i all have composite ones IIRC.

Mine also are metal [The back two vents and of course the big middle vent] The little scoop oddly is not - it's a plastic of some type but with some metal mounting hardware like the hood spoiler.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Nov 24, 2008 - 4:57 PM

[RickJamesBish]

Sexy, sexy, sexy.

[supershannon77]

I can't wait to see this completed..this car has changed so much from the body work rjb23 did to this..wow what a transformation...I think the gt4 front end will look like it grew on the car...I still love the hiro lip tho its my fav but this is looking amazing..awesome Manny just awesome.

[presure2]

I can't wait to see this completed..this car has changed so much from the body work rjb23 did to this..wow what a transformation...I think the gt4 front end will look like it grew on the car...I still love the hiro lip tho its my fav but this is looking amazing..awesome Manny just awesome.

yea, im waiting to see what jim thinks of the grills, i think they look 10000X better all cleaned up.

[_Jim_]

I was just telling Shannon how you didnt need to do that Manny, that was really nice. Thanks for going to the extra mile, you seem to do so in everything you do. I cant believe how well they cleaned up, they look like new in the pictures. I cant wait for this weekend, I never got a tracking number from EMS, so I hope the pump is on its way there and you get it soon! You will have all the other misc. crap on Wednesday. THANKS MANNY! This thing is coming out better than ever expected!

[presure2]

I was just telling Shannon how you didnt need to do that Manny, that was really nice. Thanks for going to the extra mile, you seem to do so in everything you do. I cant believe how well they cleaned up, they look like new in the pictures. I cant wait for this weekend, I never got a tracking number from EMS, so I hope the pump is on its way there and you get it soon! You will have all the other misc. crap on Wednesday. THANKS MANNY! This thing is coming out better than ever expected!

thanks jimmy boy, we go the extra mile for friends
PM me the info from EMS, ill give him a call tommorow.

[_Jim_]

NP, you got PM. I just checked there site after posting and it says processing, same as it did on Saturday. I just hope they haven't updated or something.

[presure2]

a few more pics to illustrate the diffrence between fresh paint, untouched, and wetsanded and buffed.

here is one before wetsanding and buffing, ignore the spark plug, look at the reflection of the lights, and notice how the reflected image is blurry, and out of foucus looking. this is called DOI, or Depth Of Image, and can be mesured with a set of cards made to mesure the sharpness of the reflected image.

most OEM paint jobs normally come in between a 5 and 7 on a 1-10 scale, with 10 being perfectly flat, and a 1 being like the peel of an orange.
just for refrence, most toyotas ive seen come in between a 5.5 and a 7, most chevys and fords are a 5 or 6, higher end mercedes come in normally a 7-8.5

this first pic is prolly ~ a 7.5, its actually quite flat and shiny, but its definetly not FLAT.
(be sure to open the pics up to full size!!!)


now in these next 2, this has been wetsanded, and buffed, but not polished. (i need to pick some up!!)
notice the huge diffrence in sharpness, and clarity, or DOI.
this is ~ a 9 on the DOI scale, once i get some polish and hand glaze across it, it will REALLY bring out the shine, and depth in the clear.





thats what it SHOULD look like after its cut and buffed!

[_Jim_]

OMFG, MANNY THAT IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!! Saturday can NOT come fast enough. I thought it was amazing before, but WOW this is some difference, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, its going to make the rest of the car look like straight up ass LOLOLOLOLOL

[Batman722]

NICE !

[lagos]

OMFG, MANNY THAT IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!! Saturday can NOT come fast enough. I thought it was amazing before, but WOW this is some difference, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, its going to make the rest of the car look like straight up ass LOLOLOLOLOL

Just buff the rest of the car up to bring up the shine with some good compound. It will bring up the shine a lot.
A rotary buffer in the right hands can make a huge difference.

[RickJamesBish]

Looks seriously good, I'm impressed.

[TheMadScientist]

You do awesome work manny!!! keep up the good work

[Stolen]

Hey Manny awesome job! Did you use a solvent-base or a water-base paint? If you have the used the water-based paint how was the quality of the finish compared to solvent-based paint. I know water-based paints have been around for a long time and some OEMs use them but I am not sure if the ability to match colors is better with than with solvents. Thanks.

[presure2]

Hey Manny awesome job! Did you use a solvent-base or a water-base paint? If you have the used the water-based paint how was the quality of the finish compared to solvent-based paint. I know water-based paints have been around for a long time and some OEMs use them but I am not sure if the ability to match colors is better with than with solvents. Thanks.

solvent based.
thanks!

[presure2]

a couple pics of the bumper installed, the lip goes on later today after jim gets here with the crashbar and fogs.

[_Jim_]

Wow, looks GREAT! I will be leaving here at 1 today, wow FITMENT IS PERFECT!!! I cant wait to put everything on, and get some pics.....UHGHHHH I cant wait!

[lagos]

You guys are twins now.. hehe.

[njccmd2002]

nope, he has they yellow bumper lights.

[presure2]

yea, its funny, unless you see the cars side by side, they almost look the same color.
mine is a bit darker, and has alot more purple pearl in it.

[808celica]

trying this out

[presure2]

finished pics.

[playr158]

it looks excellent....though I'd personally like to see a GT4 or a TRD wing on that baby


Manny, great work as always.

[presure2]

it looks excellent....though I'd personally like to see a GT4 or a TRD wing on that baby


Manny, great work as always.

thanks dan, he actually brought up Gt-4 blocks for me to paint for him now!! lol

[playr158]

[SeverX13]

THAT IS SICK!!!!

AWESOME JOB!!

[DEATH]

Damn - speechless.
With all of your skills if you were more centralized you could make a living just swapping, turbo-ing and doing bodywork/paint.
Killer job as usual.

[presure2]

Damn - speechless.
With all of your skills if you were more centralized you could make a living just swapping, turbo-ing and doing bodywork/paint.
Killer job as usual.

thanks man!

repost of the pics for easy browsing!

[DEATH]

I like this one - reminds me of Good/Better/Best [No comment as to which is which tho - Your wife's and Jim's are both BA - yours is next I would suppose right? ]

[supershannon77]

A few more pics.








This post has been edited by supershannon77: Dec 1, 2008 - 5:48 PM

[presure2]

HAWT.

[pipes]

HAWT.

Manny why are the lights so dim?

[_Jim_]

^ I love that pic.

They arent even on, its picking up the flash from the camera

[pipes]

^ I love that pic.

They arent even on, its picking up the flash from the camera

Lol silly me....told you your car was cool

Oh yeah my buddy wanted to know what you thought it was like on the driverside lol

This post has been edited by pipes: Dec 1, 2008 - 7:04 PM

[_Jim_]

thanks man

[GriffGirl]

I wish I could just ship my car to you. Your work is just amazing. If I ever win the lottery, I'm gonna send you my car and a pre-paid VISA with a list of what I want done to it, and whatever is left on the card (on top of whatever you charge, of course) is yours to keep.

Ah, in a perfect world. Nice work.