PS3 owners, I have a question Options

[D-Man]

I know we have quite a few gamer-members on here, and I'm about to get a PS3, I wanted to know if there is a charge to get online with it, to play multi player games, ect. Is it like the x-box that requires you to subscribe to a service, or can you just plug in and go?

Also, the new GTA; is multi-player only available online?

[Celiracer18]

Playstation network is completely free unless you buy things off of the store like games or add-ons.

GTAIV's multiplayer is online only IIRC, its been a while since ive played it

[D-Man]

Cool, and damn.

Hey, whats up with the memory sizes to store files on? Can you save like, WHOLE games and WHOLE movies? or is it for all the BS pic's & mp3's and w/e other crap i've got on my computer?

[Celiracer18]

I have ironman saved to mine and you can download whole games from the store so im sure they will go on it. It's jsut a matter of it getting full or not. If 40/80 gigs isnt enough for you, they allow up to 250gig drives to be put in.

[D-Man]

What about backwards compatability? How do i know witch ones are and witch ones aren't? Is that something that's "updateable"?

[Supersprynt]

GTA4 is single player. If you go online you can play against other people online.

I'm not sure which ones are available, but I have a 40 gig which is not backwards compatible. The 80 & 160 are.

Yes you can put whole games on there. I have Warhawk on my hard drive. Downside: you can't sell the game later.

[pipes]

80g= backwards compatible....but will you really use it?

[manphibian]

I'm pretty sure the only backwards compatible ps3 was the orig 60GB model, that is discontinued.

I got one but have never played a PS2 game on it.

[D-Man]

GTA4 is single player. If you go online you can play against other people online.

I'm not sure which ones are available, but I have a 40 gig which is not backwards compatible. The 80 & 160 are.

Yes you can put whole games on there. I have Warhawk on my hard drive. Downside: you can't sell the game later.

someone (on another fourm) told me that it had to have 4usb slots to be backwards compatable? Where can i find this info for sure?

And does that mean it's possible to go and rent a game from block buster... and play it later?

[dustin15brown]

60 gig was the only one that had backwards compatibility
40,80, and 160 all dont
80 only has 2 usb ports and no media card reader
original 60 gig had 4 and a media card reader
160 gig * i think* has atleast 4 usb ports, media card reader and bluetooth

online is free, but xbox is set up better... but im perfectly content with the ps3 online

A few great exclusive titles: Resistance 1/2, MGS4, Uncharter, Little Big Planet

Blu Ray

Yeah you can copy whole movies or games to it

0o0o0o and the coolest 6gc owners have them

SH!T I just realized i had an 80 since my 60 crashed, and i still played my ps2 games! frick frick frick

This post has been edited by dustin15brown: Dec 3, 2008 - 2:52 PM

[Supersprynt]

Manphibian is right - according to the PS3 website, there is no longer backwards compatibility with PS2 games, but some PS titles are still supported.

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Systems/Compare

Due to the availability of an extensive line-up of PS3™ system titles, the 160GB PS3™ system is not backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 system titles, but does maintain backwards compatibility for some original PlayStation® titles.

Due to the availability of an extensive line-up of PS3™ system titles, the 80GB PS3™ system is not backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 system titles, but does maintain backwards compatibility for some original PlayStation® titles.

So you'll have to find an older 60gig that will play them.

IMO: If you have a PS2 - you don't need backwards compatibility since you have the system. Not to mention, you'll probably never play the PS2 titles anymore.

But if you mean go rent a game, copy it onto your HDD and return it, and then be able to play it, no you can't do that.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 2:52 PM

[D-Man]

But if you mean go rent a game, copy it onto your HDD and return it, and then be able to play it, no you can't do that.

Why not? Is that what the drive is for? or only for "downloaded from the internets" games? Can you download PS2 titles? I'm trying to NOT buy another PS2 but my chick really want to get the new avatar game... But i cannot play a ps2 title on a new ps3, and i'm not buying a ps2 when i'm at the store for one freakn game Plus, i have a few titles from my origonal ps that i'd like to play, including breath of fire 3/4 and dragonseeds.

WTF is up with the need for massive hard drive then? It's for downloading stuff? what stuff needs to be downloaded so bad? just to save movies on?

[DEATH]

Woah wait! I'm getting one too this Christmas for the kids but the only way I'm doing it is if it's backwards compatible. What do I got to do to make sure I get the right one and are there any downsides?
We still play alot of PS1 games Games don't suck just cause they are older.

[D-Man]

Off topic:
i still have my origonal 8-bit sega Don't tell me old games aren't fun anymore

And one of my chicks presents is going to be that happy NES/SNES combo so we can finaly have that super mario showdown we're always talking smack to each other about I'm desperately trying to find Battle-Toads vs Doubble dragon. Does anyone have that BTW?

ON TOPIC:
What are ADD ONS? like, extra levels and stuff?

This post has been edited by D-Man: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:06 PM

[Supersprynt]

But if you mean go rent a game, copy it onto your HDD and return it, and then be able to play it, no you can't do that.

Why not? Is that what the drive is for? or only for "downloaded from the internets" games? Can you download PS2 titles? I'm trying to NOT buy another PS2 but my chick really want to get the new avatar game... But i cannot play a ps2 title on a new ps3, and i'm not buying a ps2 when i'm at the store for one freakn game Plus, i have a few titles from my origonal ps that i'd like to play, including breath of fire 3/4 and dragonseeds.

WTF is up with the need for massive hard drive then? It's for downloading stuff? what stuff needs to be downloaded so bad? just to save movies on?

Because what Sony is pushing is a "multimedia" console. You can put downloaded movies on it, music, you can stream videos from your computer wirelessly... The hard drive is your choice, you can get an 80 or 160. I have a 40 which is about 1/2 full right now and I wish I had a larger one for the future. Now you have plenty of room. There is downloadable content for games. Some games have expansion packs and updates...

If you buy a new PS3 - you will NOT have backwards compatibility. If you want another PS2, go on ebay and find a cheap one. Mines sitting in my closet.

If you were able to copy the games when you rent them, it would totally defeat the purpose of them selling games.

*I still have my original NES*

Examples of DLC: track packs for Guitar Hero, expansion levels & vehicles for Warhawk, characters & levels for Force Unleashed, car packs for Need for Speed....

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:10 PM

[D-Man]

Because what Sony is pushing is a "multimedia" console. You can put downloaded movies on it, music, you can stream videos from your computer wirelessly... The hard drive is your choice, you can get an 80 or 160. I have a 40 which is about 1/2 full right now and I wish I had a larger one for the future. Now you have plenty of room. There is downloadable content for games. Some games have expansion packs and updates...

What do you find cluttering up your hard drive sprynt? Updates and expansions, or random music and pictures and crap?

Because i've had my reg x-box for several years and still haven't uploaded more than half a cd on to it I have no need for a "multimedia center" as that's what i have my computers for. (and damn, i've got like 8 and a joint TeraBite between them all )

But if there are that many updates and expansions and w/e then i'll go ahead and get the 80... IDK what it'll be used for, that's why i'm asking what you use yours for.

[dustin15brown]

what clogs up my harddrive:
DEMO's, trailers, previews
some games install stuff (mgs4 has a pretty large download)
pictures
music

[Supersprynt]

Most of what I have is game saves, game updates, maybe a demo or two. I have Warhawk on my HDD because I got it cheaper for downloading it instead of buying the disc.

I have 2 albums on their because I'd listen to those instead of game music while playing WH. I do have some pictures for wallpaper and some themes.

Point being is: you have to get an 80 or 160 if your buying new. If your buying used you can buy smaller but they started putting the 80 in instead of the 40 for the same price, so it's not going to cost you anymore.

Honestly, if I were buying new I'd be getting the 160 w/Uncharted. Since that game is amazing and your only paying $100 more for double the capacity.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:24 PM

[D-Man]

wat?!

game installs?

You have to install the games and play them off the disk? llike on a pc?

[D-Man]

also, what do i have to do to utilize my HI-DEF to it's fullest capacity? This is one of the major reasons i'm getting a ps3, the massive amout of details. Besides, i wanna utilise my big ass tv to it's fullest

Secondly, i asked earlier, but didn't get an answer. Is it free to play online? like would it be free to play GTA4 online multiplay mode?

and finaly, what are some good games? I was gunna get assisans creed to start me off with. or the new spider man shadows game...

[Celiracer18]

for the record, (i think) all of the 60gig PS3s have the hardware for BC. The earlier 80gig models have software emulation for BC and the rest are not to keep the cost down.

Id try to find a 60gig (or get a new 40gig if you dont want BC) and get a 250gig drive from newegg for $70

I will say that the BC on my 80gig isnt that great. I downloaded a psone game off the store and it doesnt play too well. i have yet to put in a ps2 game however


and like i said in the first post its COMPLETELY FREE TO PLAY ONLINE

This post has been edited by Celiracer18: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:34 PM

[manphibian]

just need a HDMI cable for HD. Cheap ones are same as expensive ones

Online is totally FREE out of the box.

Good games:

Uncharted Drake's Fortune
Call of Duty 4
Little Big planet
etc.

What type of game you like?

[Supersprynt]

Yes you'll want an HDMI cable, you can get them for real cheap: ~$5. Don't go to Best Buy they'll offer a Monster HDMI cable for like, $100 when it's digital so the signal gets there or it doesn't there's no interference.

And no, you don't have to install ALL games. I bought SOCOM: Confrontation recently and that DID involve a game install - not sure why. But all my other games don't require that.

YES! It is FREE to play online. Just create a PSN username and some other info and you're good to go.

Good games that will be cheap: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune! IMO one of the best games I've ever played. It's fun, its replayable, it's beautiful to look at. Assassins Creed is a good game, I sold mine because I beat it and had no desire to play it again. I have StarWars Force Unleashed also, which is a little short, but it's fun and replayable. There is also expansion levels planned for it also. GTA4 I never play. I regret buying it. It's just too much like the other ones.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:44 PM

[D-Man]

Okay, online is free unless i keep something. Got it. Just any old LAN internet connection is needed?

What the hell is little big planet? looks strange...

I like action/adventure games, usualy with a nice big map like spiderman games, gta's, legend of zelda, and i have a passion for Sonic the hedgehog games :thumbups: i dislike first person shooters; i prefer the 3rd person perspective. Trying to grap up a ps3 before Prototype comes out

[D-Man]

Yes you'll want an HDMI cable, you can get them for real cheap: ~$5.

Is that what the interfaces starts as? Meaning does the back of the PS3 have the HDMI out? Because i've already got an hdmi-hdmi laying arround in my closet right now, plus my TV suports that kind of thing. So I probably wont have to buy anything else then, yeah?

[Supersprynt]

You're still misunderstanding. You can't "keep" anything, but there's nothing to keep anyways. The games have online playability so either you just play them online in some capacity for free. Some, not all, games are available as a download, instead of buying the disc in the store. Often these games are cheaper ($40) instead of $60. This was the case for Warhawk. Demos are free, expansions cost money. For example, a 3 track "pack" for GH3 might cost $6.

You will need broadband internet. I use wireless G and it seems to be ok (for the most part).

HDMI to HDMI cable? That's just an HDMI cable. Yes the PS3 has an HDMI out, as well as A/V out. If your TV has HDMI in then you just connect the PS3 directly to it and your golden.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:49 PM

[D-Man]

You're still misunderstanding. You can't "keep" anything, but there's nothing to keep anyways. The games have online playability so either you just play them online in some capacity for free.

You will need broadband internet. I use wireless G and it seems to be ok (for the most part).

lol, I meant that it's free as long as i dont download anything onto my hard-drive like an expansion pack or a psone game or something.

As for broadband, I'll be using ethernet (CAT5) hook up. Is that possible? or MUST i buy a wireless hub/router?

alot of tv's dont have HDMI on them still. Plus i've got like 40 different hi-def wires, ranging in all possible combonations. i've got hdmi-anything, lol. that's why i refere to it as hdmi-hdmi.

This post has been edited by D-Man: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:57 PM

[Supersprynt]

The PS3 has a ethernet port on it, you don't have to use wireless.

So to sum it up:

PS3 can be used with HDMI, optical, or A/V. It can be used wireless internet, or wired internet.

My current setup is HDMI out to the 42'' 1080p plasma and optical audio out to my 7.1 surround sound.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 3:52 PM

[D-Man]

success!!

again, WTF is little-big planet?

[D-Man]

My current setup is HDMI out to the 42'' 1080p plasma and optical audio out to my 7.1 surround sound.

Thank you. You just answered my next question.

[Random_Stranger]

Hey D-Man, can I borrow your thread real quick?

Which PS3 plays the earlier PS games? The whole reason why I want to stick with PS is because of my Final Fantasy Collection that I spent so much on trying to recover from the past. I keep hearing 60G PS3 but people tell me all but the 40G. I want to know 100% sure before I leap into getting one, that is the main reason why I haven't gotten one yet. Also, is it true they are region free so you can play imports?

Thanks

Sorry D-man, but I didn't want to make another thread just for that.

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Dec 3, 2008 - 4:05 PM

[Supersprynt]

Hey D-Man, can I borrow your thread real quick?

Which PS3 plays the earlier PS games? The whole reason why I want to stick with PS is because of my Final Fantasy Collection that I spent so much on trying to recover from the past. I keep hearing 60G PS3 but people tell me all but the 40G. I want to know 100% sure before I leap into getting one, that is the main reason why I haven't gotten one yet. Also, is it true they are region free so you can play imports?

Manphibian is right - according to the PS3 website, there is no longer backwards compatibility with PS2 games, but some PS titles are still supported.

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Systems/Compare

Due to the availability of an extensive line-up of PS3™ system titles, the 160GB PS3™ system is not backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 system titles, but does maintain backwards compatibility for some original PlayStation® titles.

Due to the availability of an extensive line-up of PS3™ system titles, the 80GB PS3™ system is not backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 system titles, but does maintain backwards compatibility for some original PlayStation® titles.

So you'll have to find an older 60gig that will play them.

IMO: If you have a PS2 - you don't need backwards compatibility since you have the system. Not to mention, you'll probably never play the PS2 titles anymore.

But if you mean go rent a game, copy it onto your HDD and return it, and then be able to play it, no you can't do that.

Answered already...

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 4:08 PM

[D-Man]

Hey D-Man, can I borrow your thread real quick?

Which PS3 plays the earlier PS games? The whole reason why I want to stick with PS is because of my Final Fantasy Collection that I spent so much on trying to recover from the past. I keep hearing 60G PS3 but people tell me all but the 40G. I want to know 100% sure before I leap into getting one, that is the main reason why I haven't gotten one yet. Also, is it true they are region free so you can play imports?

Thanks

Sorry D-man, but I didn't want to make another thread just for that.

I'm waiting on this answer myself. I believe DEATH is also.

[Supersprynt]

Jeez, c'mon you guys aren't reading!

Older 60gig is backwards compatible.

No new PS3s are backwards compatible with PS2 games.



This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 4:09 PM

[manphibian]

Little big planet is essentially a 1-4 player platform game.

The difference is you can make your owl levels, and publish them for others to play.....

Great fun game, great for kids and adults, if you're creative.

[D-Man]

no, i'm still a bit confused. it seems to be guaranteed about the oldest 60GB; but there seems to be some confusion on the 80 & 160 models.

EDIT:

Problem solved, i was told correctly before. Only the 80/60/20 Gig models with 4 usb ports are backwards compatable:
http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/pl...php?p_faqid=232

This post has been edited by D-Man: Dec 3, 2008 - 4:42 PM

[Supersprynt]

I mentioned it twice. The new ones (80/160) are not BC.

PS3 80gig for $323 (reg 399):

(Use coupon code CTV2$2HX963145 for 15% and coupon code TP5NV0VMFJ9BCZ for 5% off).

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/product...&lid=566643

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 4:44 PM

[DEATH]

"This deal is getting worse all time"
Not sure I want one now

This post has been edited by DEATH: Dec 3, 2008 - 4:45 PM

[D-Man]

Do i still need a memory card then? Can i use my PS1/2 memory card on my PS3 if i wind up with a backwards compatable model? or will i have to start my games from scrach?

[Supersprynt]

I think you will need an adapter - but there is a menu selection for older memory cards so you can use them.

What do you mean the deal is getting worse? Don't get that.

[D-Man]

what about controlers? i know they're BT and wireless, but what if they die? Can i plug in a cable and play with it anyway, or will i have to wait for the controler to recharge before i can resume my game?

[Supersprynt]

They come with a mini-USB port. You can play with them while they are plugged in & charging.

I'm not sure which ones the new PS3s come with, but when I bought mine it was Pre-Dualshock 3, so I only had a SixAxis. So then I bought a DS3 and I leave one plugged in and ready to go and then when one dies, I just swap them.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 5:08 PM

[D-Man]

whats the difference? i know of the 6axsis having the motion sensor tech, but whats up with Dual shock 3?

[DEATH]

What do you mean the deal is getting worse? Don't get that.

The main reason I've alway been a PS fan is for the backwards compatibility. I still play games from when I was a kid and having to keep up with 5 different consoles is just not my bag. Plus I've been through 3 PS2's and my latest one is showing the signs too. I was hoping this new console would still allow me to play my old titles and yet let my kids play the new stuff they want.
Incidentally my old 1st year PS1 still works like a champ atop it's shrine of dead PS2's

This post has been edited by DEATH: Dec 3, 2008 - 5:21 PM

[Supersprynt]

whats the difference? i know of the 6axsis having the motion sensor tech, but whats up with Dual shock 3?

Has vibration (and motion).

I guess Sony decided that the decreased cost outweighs the desire for backwards compatibility. My PS & PS2 both work fine, never had any issues.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 3, 2008 - 5:24 PM

[DEATH]

I guess Sony decided that the decreased cost outweighs the desire for backwards compatibility. My PS & PS2 both work fine, never had any issues.

Which PS2 did you have? The older bigger ones were much more durable in my experience. My first one lasted a few years whereas I've averaged one every 1 to 1 1/2 years since with the slim ones
They also get alot of use - I have two sons who never stop playing games.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Dec 3, 2008 - 5:27 PM

[Supersprynt]

Yeah mines one of the big original ones. The only thing that's shown signs of wear is the door opening & closing isn't as smooth.

[D-Man]

So i deff want the dual shock 3 because it has the added viberation feature, right?

I never knew they took vibration out of controllers ever sense the N64 owned up on buyers because of that feature...

[manphibian]

So i deff want the dual shock 3 because it has the added viberation feature, right?

I never knew they took vibration out of controllers ever sense the N64 owned up on buyers because of that feature...

Yeah, there was a lawsuit.

DS3 FTW.

[Supersprynt]

Yeah they took it out thinking people weren't really into it, and then there was backlash so they got the DS3 out asap. I prefer the DS3.

[supershannon77]

If you need a HDMI wire I have an extra new never used.

I must say I think my best purchase umm I think ever has been the PS3 I love the blu ray I love the games..I just love it. I have yet to even think about wanting to play any ps1 or ps2 game. We now have two in the house since I hyped it up so much ..I love that the online is free and I love to check out and downloading new themes..I think I'm just in love

o0o assassins creed has been my favorite game so far...I really enjoyed GTA4 but once I beat it I never really got into the online games...warhawk is ok..its fun to pass time but it get annoying bc I can't live past like 5 mins. I just beat tomb raider..I really enjoyed the game I wish it was longer but thats bc I enjoyed playing it. I tried the demo for Drakes and it seemed fun..kinda reminded me of tomb raider just with a looooottt more shooting..For me I enjoy shooting but I like the adventure behind it so I think from what I have read online and by the demo I feel like Tomb Raider was def more my style and since I beat that Its time to get Uncharted and see what I think. umm I hated Burnout I played it once and never looked at it since..Its time for me to look into more games...and of course rock Band is awesome.

This post has been edited by supershannon77: Dec 3, 2008 - 6:55 PM

[j0e_p3t]

speaking of uncharted.... http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43231.html
definitely can't wait. hey shannon, i suggest you check out uncharted. there's more to it than shooting bad guys. there's also some puzzle solving, rock climbing and tomb raiding type stuff. and and a pretty kick-ass adventure story. i think you'd enjoy it if you're into tomb raider.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Dec 3, 2008 - 11:43 PM

[Supersprynt]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! I knew they were going to make a second one, but I haven't heard anything. That's so awesome. Now that knife - it looks like the knife from that movie with Ghengis Khan... the Shadow! Is that not the knife whose handle comes alive and bites him?!

I've been trying to get Shannon to buy Uncharted for awhile. She's only played the demo.

Check this out:

Uncharted 2:


The Shadow movie:




I started to think that maybe there was a tie to Ghengis Khan with that knife being in the movie with him, but supposedly the new game has to do with Marco Polo.

But wait, there's more! Game Informer's January issue will also feature Uncharted 2 -- and they're calling it: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. According to GI, the sequel will involve the 13th century explorer Marco Polo and his voyages. New mechanics in the sequel include a free climbing mechanic and stealth gameplay. Check out the cover, also after the break.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 4, 2008 - 12:33 AM

[97celiman]

dude....second post answered your q's

[Random_Stranger]

THanks for answering the questions. I don't think I want one now unless I can find one that is BC. Because I am going to end up buying another PS2 (this one starting to wear down) just so I can play the older games before I jump into PS3 now....... Argh! For all the money Sony supposedly lost building this thing and still not perfect!

[vsideboy]

As sony create firmware updates that you have to download to the HDD then alot of games then also need you to download this and that update to allow them to use the new firmware. This all takes up space on your HDD. e.g. i got 2.53 firmware update yesterday, then warhawk had a 66Mb update, and GTA4 had a 45Mb update.

You also have free demo downloads from the store, (Metal Gear Solid 4 Demo is like 1.5Gb, so it soon mounts up!)

Also downloadable content, Call of Duty 4 had 4 new maps early in the year, which you buy from the store and then download and save to the HDD for use during the game. (These are now included in the Game of the Year edition)

Things all mount up though, I've got a 60gb one and I always hover around having about 7Gb of free space on it. AFAIK the 60Gb is the ONLY one thats backwards compatible (Unless one of the firmware updates added it for the later models)

TBH I've been looking at getting a 320 or 500Gb SATA drive (only £50-£90) to replace the 60Gb one with, then I won't have to worry about space.

[j0e_p3t]

THanks for answering the questions. I don't think I want one now unless I can find one that is BC. Because I am going to end up buying another PS2 (this one starting to wear down) just so I can play the older games before I jump into PS3 now....... Argh! For all the money Sony supposedly lost building this thing and still not perfect!

http://www.gamestop.com/Browse/Search.aspx?N=141+196

[vsideboy]

wow a used 60gig is more expensive than a new 80gig?

blimey!

[j0e_p3t]

the 60 is backwards compatible.

[vsideboy]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/80GB-PS3-Ba...one-65065.shtml

So the 60gb had the ps2 hardware in it, yet the 80gb gets software emulation, so the 80gb will play some titles but not all titles at the moment, I'm sure they will keep tweaking the software til it works properly cos thats quite a big selling point really.

[D-Man]

Well, thanks all, i suppose i'll probably just wind up buying the new 80GIG, even w/o the BC. f-it. I can always enjoy the new titles till the ps2 prices drop even farther, and i'll grab that avatar game up after it hits the $10 special bin, and the ps2 when it hits the $50 marine

what is that? about 1-2 more years?

Thanks for all ya'lls help.

[RickJamesBish]

D-Man, get Uncharted. I rented it yesterday since I have sh!t else to do and it's awesome! Don't worry about BC, there's plenty of good games on PS3.

[Supersprynt]

D-Man, get Uncharted. I rented it yesterday since I have sh!t else to do and it's awesome! Don't worry about BC, there's plenty of good games on PS3.

Hear-ye!

[vsideboy]

Currently playing Motorstorm Pacific Rift and Cod5, loving motorstorm its as annoying as the first one with alot better maps.

[RickJamesBish]

Was never impressed by MS...just not a fan of arcade racing. But COD5 will be my next purchase, I'm renting Far Cry 2 first though.