350z or s2000 Options

[masterluie214]

I like them both they both have there pro and cons and i will be buying of theses cars soon hopefully just thought i would get some more ideas of what people think about one or the other comments about why one would be better then the other would be great ......

thanks

PS. if i get the s2000 i will be buying the hard top for it so think of both of theses cars as coupes and the perches of the hard top although it is expensive is not a factor in witch one i will buy ..... this is based on looks, performance, maintenance and things along that line ......

Luis

[CelicaST_CALI]

japan ftmfw

[lagos]

350z hands down.

My friend bought an s2k and let me drive it. For like the first hour we were trying to figure out what was wrong with it. You would step on the gas and the car just didnt go anywhere. We were thinking maybe it had traction control. Then we realized that the car just had zero torque and we were used to turbo cars... lol.

Seriously, get the 350z. At least it has some balls.

[Promasta]

s2000 hands down, its over 500 lbs lighter
no torque, but crazy high redline

[creis]

s2000's are cool but 350z IMO are better.

[_mikeE]

Hard decision actually, but I hope my input will provide you some insight.

I heard the 350z has a very, very high insurance premium because of the outstanding number of fatality rates caused by that car. I think we have the Tokyo Drift movie to blame, just as how insurance companies are also targetting people in between the ages of 18-30 to charge higher insurance rates if they try to insure a 240sx. Anyway, if you do decide to get the Z; if it were me, my first mod would be a roll cage.

[masterluie214]

s2000 hands down, its over 500 lbs lighter
no torque, but crazy high redline

yes s2000 are 500 lbs lighter but the 350z makes up for it with 270hp - 300hp depending on the year and i have heard 350z are faster

350z hands down.

My friend bought an s2k and let me drive it. For like the first hour we were trying to figure out what was wrong with it. You would step on the gas and the car just didnt go anywhere. We were thinking maybe it had traction control. Then we realized that the car just had zero torque and we were used to turbo cars... lol.

Seriously, get the 350z. At least it has some balls.

I have test drove both of them and i have to say i was not impressed with s2k at the start once i got to the higher rpm's it was pretty fun but before that didn'f feel to much

[masterluie214]

Hard decision actually, but I hope my input will provide you some insight.

I heard the 350z has a very, very high insurance premium because of the outstanding number of fatality rates caused by that car. I think we have the Tokyo Drift movie to blame, just as how insurance companies are also targetting people in between the ages of 18-30 to charge higher insurance rates if they try to insure a 240sx. Anyway, if you do decide to get the Z; if it were me, my first mod would be a roll cage.

trust me I have thought about that alot insurances is such a pain .... some of the cars i was looking into where as much as a corvette... I thought if i was going to have to pay that much for insurance i might as well get a vett ...... not to say i haven't thought about that too lol im not looking to go crazy on the highway just cause i have the power just looking for a nice sports car that i can affored that wont give me to many problems ...

[lagos]

I have test drove both of them and i have to say i was not impressed with s2k at the start once i got to the higher rpm's it was pretty fun but before that didn'f feel to much

Yeah, you have to keep between 7-9k at all times to get anything out of it and even then its Meh. Anything under that feels like I tried to start my celica from a dead stop in 5th gear.

[richee3]

The 350Z, due to the fact (and I'm assuming you aren't getting a roadster) that it is a solid roof design, will probably handle better, and is definitely quicker. One of my friends has an automatic Z (fail!) but even still, it smokes manual Mustang GT's. I've driven an S2K, and just as everyone said, it was slow as balls. I was trying to rip on it as the salesman wanted me too (I had no intentions of buying the car and he knew it- we were both bored ) but anything below 5,000 RPM felt a lot slower than our cars. It picked up a lot after 5,000, but it still didn't feel special. It wasn't loafing around though, don't get me wrong. My friend won't let me drive his Z, so I can't give you a firsthand side-by-side comparison, but I will say that I do like a good vert I say go for the S2000, especially since you are getting the hard top.

[whatthe]

i say s2000 + hardtop = WIN

[Driveby]

A friend of mine has a super charged s2k, this solves the no torque problem Stock for stock I think the s2k is a better looking car but hey, its your money so enjoy your choice!

[forkee]

why not wait for the 370z and be the envy of both 350z and s2000's

[95CelicaST]

I'm just glad this isn't a mrgrape thread!

[Promasta]

lol what are you guys talking about
many magazines/shows have compared these cars' performance
s2000 0-60 in 5.5
350z 0-60 in 5.4
mustang gt 0-60 in 5.1

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

[dustin15brown]

lol what are you guys talking about
many magazines/shows have compared these cars' performance
s2000 0-60 in 5.5
350z 0-60 in 5.4
mustang gt 0-60 in 5.1

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

[whatthe]

lol what are you guys talking about
many magazines/shows have compared these cars' performance
s2000 0-60 in 5.5
350z 0-60 in 5.4
mustang gt 0-60 in 5.1

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

sometimes its not always as easily decided by looking at 0-60. . .

[Rayme]

The 350Z, at least you can have some power to the wheel without going over the speed limit...and that v6 sounds really sweet.

This post has been edited by Rayme: Dec 13, 2008 - 6:59 AM

[lagos]

lol what are you guys talking about
many magazines/shows have compared these cars' performance
s2000 0-60 in 5.5
350z 0-60 in 5.4
mustang gt 0-60 in 5.1

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

I don't know what makes you think that, as I've personally taken all 3 of those cars before. I'm sure other swappers will tell you they've done the same.

A 3s swap is on par with an STI/Evo. Mustang GT's are no problem.

This post has been edited by lagos: Dec 13, 2008 - 11:31 AM

[99Celica]

I've driven both of these several times and IMO the 350z wins because of the way the engine sounds. And don't forget about the G35 coupe, it's pretty ballin too. Gl with the purchase they're both nice cars but I give the Z the edge

[Random_Stranger]

I say 350z because Nissan>Honda. True story.

[RickJamesBish]

I'm just glad this isn't a mrgrape thread!

x2, that's what I was thinking.

I would say the Z, even though it has a fugly interior...I'm just not impressed by VTEC.

[masterluie214]

I think that one of the good things about the s2000 is that I don't have to worry about options lol that car comes with leather standard and things along that nature .... with the 350z there are so many different models witch can get kind of annoying it makes me think do I want the base for a lighter car all together so I can beef it up or do I get the high end with the leather and auto seats navigation? ..... The 350z has what like 5 or 6 different models and if I get it used not only do i have to pay attention to all that stuff but also the miles on the car have to look to see if it was moded before, with the s2k all you really have to pay attention to are the basics when buying a car like miles, mantence ext. because there all pretty much the same exepet the light body change stated in 04..... I like them both but im starting to think I might be turning to the 350z more then again I have heard they have alot of bugs i mean they are only a 5 year old car the s2k has had going on 9 years to work out all the bugs.....

[lagos]

i think the s2k had two versions. ep1 and ep2? so you have to pay attention to that also. the earlier models had a 9k redline too.

[saleeka]

The S2000 is closer in formula to what a true sports car is, while with the 350Z, I think muscle car... Unless drag racing is your thing, I’d much rather be the owner of a S2K

[xredjokerx]

ap1 and ap2 i believe.

i'd say s2000, crazy redline, lighter, and s2000 has holds its value pretty well.

350z is nice but i heard it has crappy interior + i just think the s2000 is more stylish

[masterluie214]

ap1 and ap2 i believe.

i'd say s2000, crazy redline, lighter, and s2000 has holds its value pretty well.

350z is nice but i heard it has crappy interior + i just think the s2000 is more stylish

I would not say holds its value at this point not anymore then the 350z only because you can find them around the same price low or high either way it go's it seams everyone has some good points it seams either way I chose to go I would probably be pretty happy with either one

[richee3]

lol what are you guys talking about
many magazines/shows have compared these cars' performance
s2000 0-60 in 5.5
350z 0-60 in 5.4
mustang gt 0-60 in 5.1

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

Supra~4.8

Toyota owns all!!!

The S2K did have two versions, you guys are right about that. Couldn't tell you what they are called, just that one had a 2.2 liter and the newer version had a 2.0, both putting out around 240 hp.

sometimes its not always as easily decided by looking at 0-60. . .

That's very true. The Celica is not and never was a straight line car. Take that 3S and put it on an autocross track against that Mustang GT and see which wins. I'm not saying it'll beat the S2K or 350Z in the autocross, both of those cars are amazing and would outperform my GT any day. But I believe a GT4 will put a Mustang GT to bed in any race that involves handling, even though the Mustang could win in a drag race. Both cars were built for different purposes, and as such, really aren't even comparable.

This post has been edited by richee3: Dec 14, 2008 - 2:00 AM

[masterluie214]

Supra~4.8
Toyota owns all!!!

I couldn't agree more i love the supra lol

This post has been edited by masterluie214: Dec 14, 2008 - 3:22 PM

[97celiman]

wait for 370z awesomeness

[mmmchocolate]

I would get the 350z and i believe that the S2000 is the number one stolen car in America right now. but w/e strikes your fancy

[_Jim_]

lol what are you guys talking about
many magazines/shows have compared these cars' performance
s2000 0-60 in 5.5
350z 0-60 in 5.4
mustang gt 0-60 in 5.1

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

LOLOLOLOL let me at them, they dont stand a chance

[supershannon77]

and sorry but they are all beating your stock 3sgte fwd celicas

This made me laugh for about 5 mins.

Any who I voted for the s2k simply that I think they are beautiful looking cars...never driven either car but I have always been a fan of the s2k.

[RickJamesBish]

Actually, I revise my earlier statement...get the Z if you want a "real" engine, I'm not a fan of the interior myself but the JDM-tyte Dorifto deal does appeal to me. The S2k looks a bit better to me, and it's sort of closer in theory to a Celica...less power, but it's light and handles well.

[richee3]

Either way, you're getting a good car and I'll be jealous

[playr158]

driven both and spent extensive hours straight inside of an S2000 (think 14 hrs non stop literally)

S2000 handles better and well you can't expect it to have low end tq...cause its not made for it.
However is is very loud inside the car. there are versions AP1 (9k redline) and post 2004 AP2 (8k redline)
I never really saw the advantage of 9k as I would mostly only use 8k worth of rpm range.
very stable fun more in touch with the weekend track car feel and setup.

350z is quieter and more comfortable on a daily basis, but its more tame than an S2000.
handling is good but I wasn't too impressed with it. Im also not a fan of the big rear bar in the hatch and nasty looking steering wheel.

[_Jim_]

I was sent this pm, and this is how I responded, I figured I went through the trouble of finding this info, might as well post it.

look i'm not trolling, i'm just stating the facts
a real 6th gen gt4 runs high 13s, you must know this
and it is going to be faster than a fwd swapped celica
mustang gt's, 350z's run mid 13s stock. hmmmm...

now talking about shannons car is a different story, i'm sure it would win, but its not stock

Well, I don't know where you are getting your info from, but its a a little off. I know from EXPERIENCE that my car owns mustangs, 350z, and honda s2000's all day long. You say you are sure shannons car would win (which you are right, again from EXPERIENCE) but it doesn't count because it is not stock, ok neither is a 3s swapped celica? But since were compating these cars against a stock 3s swapped celica......my car beats Shannon's car and my car IS a stock swapped celica. Aside from intake, exhaust, and boost controller.....so yes STOCK GEN3.

Just to clear is up
350z 220whp and curb weight 3188lbs http://www.350z-tech.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26109 14.201
s2000 207whp and curb weight 2809lbs http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1297715 13.894
99+ Mustang gt 230whp and curb weight 3077lbs http://forums.stangnet.com/532473-stock-whp-99-gt.html 13.828
my swapped Celica 300whp and curb weight 2415lbs 11.674

I got the 1/4 mile numbers from punching in the numbers listed above. LOLOLOL, and no I am not saying my car will run an 11.6 (god that would be sweet) but based off the posted 1/4 mile times, my car owns by a mile. These numbers will vary GREATLY due to change in ACTUAL weight, traction, driver, and car specific WHP. It was the "best" comparison I could come up with keeping everything constant and having the only variables being power and weight. But, based on the numbers compared, they have quite a ways to catch me.
http://www.jcalculator.com/?c=1_4_mile_calculator

All curb weight numbers I got from here in attempt to keep things fair, and I used 2 door hatch if available.
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com...ord-mustang.htm

[D-Man]

350z

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[Jeunesse]

lol.. i didn't realize that this would be a close call. I chose the Z tho.

[supershannon77]

my car beats Shannon's car and my car IS a stock swapped celica.

pics or it didn't happen.



Jim that is not a fact....and bring it on.

[samir0189]

I prefer the s2k. The 350z is just too lumpy/humpy for my taste. The s2k has such clean, smooth, flowing body lines. And for a naturally aspirated 4 banger it puts out ALOT of power.

[supershannon77]

my car beats Shannon's car and my car IS a stock swapped celica.

pics or it didn't happen.



Jim that is not a fact....and bring it on.

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This post has been edited by supershannon77: Dec 17, 2008 - 7:02 PM

[_Jim_]

my car beats Shannon's car and my car IS a stock swapped celica.

pics or it didn't happen.



Jim that is not a fact....and bring it on.

...

We will have to make a video....your 5s vs my 3s