New owner of Megan Coilovers Options

[trdproven]

Heres a pic sample of my megan coilovers. I dont wanna take full pics till i get it at the right ride height for me. I installed the coilovers without height adjustment and they pretty much came out the same as my intrax springs just a tad tad bit lower almost no major change but that means out of the box is somewhere at least 2" drop but then again I havent let it settle. When I installed it my tires were 1 inch of the ground, when I jacked up the knuckle, the tires were decently far from the ground after, I am assuming the ride height will get lower still after much driving. Haven't done a damper adjustment yet too, i was too tired, had stubborn bolts and nuts - had to grind one off. Took it for a quick ride though, stiff but still comfortable at the same time, it must be my tires though. I want to compare the hardest adjustment vs. the softest.




This post has been edited by trdproven: Feb 16, 2009 - 7:10 AM

[jimmykay]

I've been keeping my eyes on these too. I'm just waiting on my stock setup to bite the dust. Keep us updated on how they settle in and on the final verdict.

[trdproven]

Just adjusted my damper to the most softest setting. It feels just like stock even with my 17s. When I got it, it was set pretty hard to mountain use. So megan coilovers are not that bad actually.



This post has been edited by trdproven: Feb 18, 2009 - 3:32 AM

[whatthe]

how long did it take you to install them?

[Punch]

I want some where did u get them how much how fast is shiping?

[trdproven]

how long did it take you to install them?

Didn't take too long, first one was a breeze, second, I had a stripped bolt - had to grind it off and spent two hours looking for a similar bolt and nut. Third was fast but I realized megan had the brackets for the brake line backwards don't know if it is like that or if it is a defect so I had to take it off and use the other one. Also end link didnt fit thats why I tried the other one. Fourth one was the fastest. Took a few hours because I had to waste time looking for bolt and nut, took smoke breaks, and I did it myself so I had to rest here and there. It sucks holding up the coilover and at the same time reachin up to put on the top mount bolts.
Typical install without issues is prolly 2 hrs. That does not count in between the lines like jacking up the car, removing the wheel, being careful, etc. Well you are not suppose to rush these things anyways so I'd say between 2-3 hrs but, that does not include any adjustment for height, damper, or camber for that matter, just the install especially I had no help , my body ached for a couple days, shows Im not conditioned at all.

I want some where did u get them how much how fast is shiping?

Got mine from upscaleautomotive for about for around 800ish just ask for a discount code. I live overseas so shipping is prolly double than the mainland but basically everything together they express mailed it for 980.00. Theres a for sale thread where RED is selling them also.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Feb 18, 2009 - 6:14 AM

[Salica]

That looks so sexy!! maybe next year i can have enough money for some coilovers haha. maybe they sent you two coil overs that where RH or something like that.

either way dope stuff man

[trdproven]

I don't think so because the end links can only fit on one side, one way, so it can't be two rights, I just think the brackets for the hoses could have been welded on the other way. Other than that, the hoses still bolt on.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Feb 18, 2009 - 9:47 PM

[Punch]

im gonna sell my cutom set up for these!
http://www.upscaleautomotive.com/p-25541-m...-gtgts-fwd.aspx

[korban]

Might be a dumb question, are these for cars with superstrut?

[ej8ferio702]

damn good luck setting it up bro but so far so good, i am jealous haha i could only afford lowering springs at the moment and till now my lazy butt still havent installed them and they have been sitting in my garage for almost a month now, good luck cant wait to see the final result, pics would be awesome!

[trdproven]

Might be a dumb question, are these for cars with superstrut?

No these are macpherson, superstruts had the stickers on the rear windshield, also the suspension is a bit different.

im gonna sell my cutom set up for these!
http://www.upscaleautomotive.com/p-25541-m...-gtgts-fwd.aspx

This is exactly where I got mine.

damn good luck setting it up bro but so far so good, i am jealous haha i could only afford lowering springs at the moment and till now my lazy butt still havent installed them and they have been sitting in my garage for almost a month now, good luck cant wait to see the final result, pics would be awesome!

This has been completed since I posted this pic. Today I adjusted them down to a 3" drop.

[phantom]

I got me a set too, i'm just waiting on delivery. post some pictures, I wanna know what my car is going to look like in the future...lol I got a white celi also.

[trdproven]

phantom - they look wicked, but I hate the camber, that needs to be adjusted in mine.

[NGHTKD]

dyin to see some pics!!!

[ej8ferio702]

TRDproven your killing us with the teaser pic!!! lol post the dam pic already! lol...

[trdproven]

I will car is a bit dirty, and I need leveled ground. Will retune my damper again, softest setting proved to be nice in regular bumps but sucked in really deep ones - too soft.

[stephen_lee]

do they come w/ the strut mounts, too?
And where's our pics

[trdproven]

Megans come with the strut mounts. Yes I need to take pics, haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm eager to get home in time to get some daylight.

[BonzaiCelica]

hey trd proven so you ever get around to getting some pics of before and after you did the 3 inch drop???

i see that megans are the best quality coilovers around. being that tanabe and tein are well known brands. Megan have all the adjustability you could every want and for a good price for around $950 with shipping included. they are also the stiffest coilovers available with 10k springs rate in front and 8k in the rear. tien ss are 7k and 5k.

megans have 32 adjustable dampening force which the tanabe and the tein only has 16 way adjustability. tein can go only go 2.5 inch drop in front and rear. whats the max drop on the megan coilovers?? So what setting do you have the dampening force at right now. what # setting do you have it on??
1-8 track use
9-16 for canyon's/ agressive driving
17-32 for common street use.

phantom - they look wicked, but I hate the camber, that needs to be adjusted in mine.

can you elaborate on this. what do you mean you need to adjust camber. when you do alignment wont camber bolts fix this???

also when you are adjusting ride height, that can be done witth the struts installed, right.

[BonzaiCelica]

bump (whatever that means, i always see members posting that after nobody replies to their reply after a while)

[trdproven]

Sorry man, i do not have recent pics of it. But I did drop it over 3 inches because when I had the intrax they were about a 2in drop. When I put on the megans without adjusting it yet, the gap closed. From there i did a significant drop again and then recently i did a quarter inch drop again. Actually I have pics in the multimedia section of the post a pic of your celica. It is not evident of the over 3 in drop but no way i can put my finger in that fender even if i slanted my fingers upwards.

[BonzaiCelica]

how stiff is the ride out of the box? do you know what number setting it is on? being that there is 1-32 levels of adjustable dampening...

[trdproven]

how stiff is the ride out of the box? do you know what number setting it is on? being that there is 1-32 levels of adjustable dampening...

you can make it even softer than stock and fine tune it all the way to stiff. the question you are asking is basically you can get whatever feel you want. Unlike ksports those are pretty stiff no matter what tune. I'm at 20 which falls under common street use. The difference between this and Tein is most of the time if you don't pay the extra bucks you dont get Teins mount. Also the difference in adjustability is tein skips the in betweens so you can't fine tune it as much as megan.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Sep 27, 2009 - 10:07 AM

[trdproven]

im gonna sell my cutom set up for these!
http://www.upscaleautomotive.com/p-25541-m...-gtgts-fwd.aspx

yea thats exactly what I have theres only one type for our celicas

[OOBE]

Hmmm, I don't see the pictures. Must be a problem with my browser.

[zfjohnson07]

i put some coil springs on mine and it made it like 2 inches higher! what did i do wrong

[95CelicaST]

i put some coil springs on mine and it made it like 2 inches higher! what did i do wrong

Are you using something like this?



If so, you need to lower the two lower collars down the threaded sleeve.

[OOBE]

As much as Megan is such a silly name for a company, I've read nothing but good things about their products. I was thinking of the K-Sports for the Celica but after reading that Nissan thread, I think I will ignore that fact and buy them...obviously after reading what the OP has to say about them.

[trdproven]

Megan indeed is a lousy name but their products are amazing from suspension to performance parts especialy for their price.

the problem with coil sleeves/springs is that you adjust height by adjusting the spring load to make the springs tighter and closer. Problem with that is you jack up the spring rates and ride comfort. True coilovers adjust on the lower side, meaning it does not touch the spring load but adjusts by making the whole assembly shorter, thus you still have the lower ride height with the good ride comfort.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 4, 2009 - 6:42 AM

[Promasta]

seriously trdproven, could you please drop your car as low as it will go and take a side shot so we can see the ride height difference between megan/tanabe/tein

[OOBE]

^ PLEASE...do that, trdproven. When you have a chance and you're not feeling lazy, heh. I'm showing my car in a car show next year and I need to install all the parts before taking it to the paint shop. It would be cool to see the lowest possible setting on your car, because I want to show my car slammed.

[trdproven]

seriously trdproven, could you please drop your car as low as it will go and take a side shot so we can see the ride height difference between megan/tanabe/tein

Haha thats alot of work to adjust all those springs. But yea right now, I have it at 3.5. It is tucked but in my pics it doesn't look like it cus I need a wider rim or lower offset. Based off the Megan threading it looks like it can drop well over 4". thats way too much and pointless to drop it that low who would do that to their car, I mean I'm only at this height because I only drive it like 1-5 miles a week. For your case, car show, trust me its more than enough, you prolly won't even go past my height.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 5, 2009 - 1:20 AM

[Demios]

I was planning to buy Tein coils, but now i'm curious about thoose megans...Teins are around 1000€ to me, megans 670€, teins have 16 levels, and thoose ones 32, teins dont have camber unlike thoose ones but i am prety sure that if i set my right front level at 14 (like every other level) as the left one i'm sure that the softness is the same (unlike D2 and Ksport). Do u think its the same for megans too? or its lower price is for a lower quality too? Cuz i read on the web that D2 are good too if u have the right tools to set 'em good, but thoose tools are expansive XD I know that the same setting isn't really needed to use the car on the track, but i'd like to feel sure that 14 left is softer (or harder, dont matter) than 13 or 12 on the right...maybe i did some confusion...tell me if u can understand what i'd want to say

[Harold_Fastwaker]

I was planning to buy Tein coils, but now i'm curious about thoose megans...Teins are around 1000€ to me, megans 670€, teins have 16 levels, and thoose ones 32, teins dont have camber unlike thoose ones but i am prety sure that if i set my right front level at 14 (like every other level) as the left one i'm sure that the softness is the same (unlike D2 and Ksport). Do u think its the same for megans too? or its lower price is for a lower quality too? Cuz i read on the web that D2 are good too if u have the right tools to set 'em good, but thoose tools are expansive XD I know that the same setting isn't really needed to use the car on the track, but i'd like to feel sure that 14 left is softer (or harder, dont matter) than 13 or 12 on the right...maybe i did some confusion...tell me if u can understand what i'd want to say

Maybe I understood this. Are you asking about quality comparison and then about soft/hardness setting comparison.

If so, Tein are better all around then D2,K-sport,Megan. Those 3 are made in the same workshop with different branding and slight changes. Tein are on their own. For track purposes, I would go with Tein, if you want to slam your car and run big camber, then Megan is a better choice.

[Demios]

I'm simplylooking for something that makes me corner faster...for the setting, no problem, i can do it and i've experienced supporters to helpme with what i cant do, but i dont have the tools to be sure the values i setted are really like the level says. I'm just asking, who have megan coils knows if level 28 is soft almost the same on every piece? I read that on D2 Coils (same for Ksport) level 14 (just to say one) on one piece could be lvl 9 on another one and 16 on another, this dont make u sure that the setting u think will really work goodcuz u cant be sure about the setting without testing it in some way...

So D2, Ksport and Megan too are almost the same in most of parts if its are made in the same workshop, that's it?

[trdproven]

price vs performance - Tein Basics are no match for Megans. All my friends have Teins and I am not impressed with the fancy indoor adjustability and no strut mount, and 16 way adjustability, no camber adjustment. I get irritated its not a full assembly, you have to use stock components. My friends have to run really stiff just to get it comfortable. For some reason that is not good if they wanted to stiffen it up more for track. Megans I am somewhere in the middle and have lots of more room to adjust for stiffness. I am not saying Teins are a bad product. I am saying hands down, you are paying a lot more for something you don't get. Ive read online Teins lack the adjustability of Megans all around, and you dont need the internet to tell you that just by the specs, Megans even have better spring rates. Teins basics will blow faster than Megans. Megans > Tein Basics. If you get Teins make sure you get higher than the Tein Basics to beat out the Megans. Just research online.

[Demios]

Ok thats sure, the vantages of megans are obvious...springs are not that advantage, to set a track car good u must have more than one spring set...I'm just trying to know trdproven, did u tested if the same setting is the same softness on every piece? Cuz if the advantage of more regulations could not be that much if the same level doesn't match with the same softness on every shock absorber

[trdproven]

not sure what you mean exactly or what you are trying to get at to prove a point.

While Driving, the human cannot nick pick the difference if the left front strut is set on 12 or at the same time notice if the right rear is set on 13 and so on. Is that what you mean? not everything in this world is created equal, motors to be exact, not every motor comes out exactly from the factory some will be more reliable or feel more powerfull but bottom line is, they are built as close to spec as possible. You can definitely feel the difference as you adjust them and drive. I hope I am making things clear for you.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 13, 2009 - 10:17 AM

[95CelicaST]

I think what he is saying is that he has heard that the valving on the shocks are all different, so in order for people to get the same dampening effect on each corner they had to adjust the dampner settings. He is also saying that he heard not all dampners are created equal. The stiffness of one unit at level 6 could be equal to level 16 on another, and so on.

I will tell you that no manufacturer would let something like that slip through QA. Unless another variable had been altered (spring travel) you can be sure that a level 14 dampner setting on one strut is a level 14 on all of them.

[jimmykay]

he might be asking if the damping of a megan set on the maximum damping level is less than, equal to, or greater than a tein, ksport, etc on the maximum damping level.

It is a very valid question. just having more tick marks doesnt mean it has a greater damping range.
For example, one model of coilover provides a damping range from 1,000 to 10,000 lb*s/in (I think thats the unit for damping) with 10 increments of 1,000
another model of coilover may provide a range of 500 to 13,000 lb*s/in with 5 increments of 2,500 each.

The first coilover would provide more adjustment, but the second would provide a wider range.

I wonder what the damping ranges are for each manufacturer?

Edit: changed 'coilover' to 'model of coilover' to clarify that I am talking about comparing two different brands of coilover

This post has been edited by jimmykay: Oct 13, 2009 - 5:02 PM

[trdproven]

Your right about damper settings between different brands, types, but like i said between the two, even tein at full stiffness is still too soft for me, i thought my friend adjusted it to the softest but he had it had the hardest setting. but that is not just it, by having 32 way adjustability, major advantage is the ability to fine tune. Do I make any sense?

I think what he is saying is that he has heard that the valving on the shocks are all different, so in order for people to get the same dampening effect on each corner they had to adjust the dampner settings. He is also saying that he heard not all dampners are created equal. The stiffness of one unit at level 6 could be equal to level 16 on another, and so on.

I will tell you that no manufacturer would let something like that slip through QA. Unless another variable had been altered (spring travel) you can be sure that a level 14 dampner setting on one strut is a level 14 on all of them.

I agree with your last paragraph, that was what I meant about consistency.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 13, 2009 - 4:58 PM

[Harold_Fastwaker]

I think what he is saying is that he has heard that the valving on the shocks are all different, so in order for people to get the same dampening effect on each corner they had to adjust the dampner settings. He is also saying that he heard not all dampners are created equal. The stiffness of one unit at level 6 could be equal to level 16 on another, and so on.

I will tell you that no manufacturer would let something like that slip through QA. Unless another variable had been altered (spring travel) you can be sure that a level 14 dampner setting on one strut is a level 14 on all of them.

Well, I can tell you this. I remember some shop doing a test on megan,d2, ksport and a few other companies to test how they rate up to Tein and higher priced items. The M/K-S/D2 had bad consistancy, such as spring rates not being the same all the way around and valving not being equal for stiffness settings.

But this is what happens when you use a cheap shop to make your parts.

Now, since then D2 has come back and actually started testing their products to verify they are atleast acceptable.

[trdproven]

honestly not all things are created equal in this world, close but not exact. QA can only do so much there are many variables that keep consistency. What if they took a well built teins and coincidently took poorly builts (defects or not so well built to the standards) of the rest of the brands and tested it. The way to reduce variance and provide true statistics and sampling is to test perhaps with 100 teins, 100 megans, 100 d2, and so forth. Motors are not created equal some motors are built better overal, materials and assembly, in fact everything we get for our cars some have theirs last longer than others. Its all variables, the specifics you are looking for is not necessary unless you have one bad ass track car. but even at that money is the least of your worries if it is a true track car. Anyway what are trying to get out of these posts? We sound like WE need to be the QA inspectors for these coil overs or marketing directors.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 15, 2009 - 1:42 AM

[Harold_Fastwaker]

honestly not all things are created equal in this world, close but not exact. QA can only do so much there are many variables that keep consistency. What if they took a well built teins and coincidently took poorly builts (defects or not so well built to the standards) of the rest of the brands and tested it. The way to reduce variance and provide true statistics and sampling is to test perhaps with 100 teins, 100 megans, 100 d2, and so forth. Motors are not created equal some motors are built better overal, materials and assembly, in fact everything we get for our cars some have theirs last longer than others. Its all variables, the specifics you are looking for is not necessary unless you have one bad ass track car. but even at that money is the least of your worries if it is a true track car. Anyway what are trying to get out of these posts? We sound like WE need to be the QA inspectors for these coil overs or marketing directors.

I honestly do not expect a company to buy 100 of each for tests. Sure that is the best way, then take the average from them.


However, if you buy an off the shelf set of each and test them. You should NOT have a set of D2s with 4 completely different spring rates. Or a set of Megans with valve settings that do not match up when set to a curtain number. Like I said, these tests are what caused D2 to start testing their products after they were made to verify they did not send out crazy setups with numbers nowhere close to what their spec says it should be.

I can honestly say as well that I have not seen a set of Teins or other high quality coilover snap from daily driving. I have seen photos of a Megan coilover that broke cleanly in half on a DD'd civic. In the car game, you pretty much get what you pay for. If something averages $1300 for a certain part, buying one for $800 will save you money in the short run but will not be an equal quality part.


With that stated. I am going to run a set of Megans. I could careless about track worthiness or corner balancing my car. They slam the lowest out of all the offerings of coilovers for our car.

This post has been edited by Harold_Fastwaker: Oct 15, 2009 - 7:51 PM

[trdproven]

you wont regret it, had it on since Jan.

[upscaleauto]

Good post and info! Just wanted to share "GB: Megan Racing Coilovers (94-99 Celica) & More!" We are offering a low price with free shipping to top it off! There are some photos in that thread of our install and some additional install info as well!

[trdproven]

where was that free shipping when I needed it, I spent like 100 bucks to ship mine.

[upscaleauto]

where was that free shipping when I needed it, I spent like 100 bucks to ship mine.

It may make you feel better that the offer is only for the lower 48 states, so you didn't really miss out. On the other hand, sorry for the timing being off on this! Seriously, just let us know if there is anything else you are looking for for your Celica and we will see what we can do to help you out price/shipping wise.

[trdproven]

alright, do you have a full catback exhaust made for our GT? i doubt it but its worth a try.

[upscaleauto]

alright, do you have a full catback exhaust made for our GT? i doubt it but its worth a try.

Unfortunately, no. But the good news is that we are working to develop one along with a radiator shroud and engine under tray/panel for the 6GC. We have no further information right now, but as soon as any of these are available we will post here on 6GC.net

[nics]

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

[upscaleauto]

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

The Megan Racing Coilovers are actually fully threaded. You adjust the height at the lower portion and don't lose any travel area.

[nics]

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

The Megan Racing Coilovers are actually fully threaded. You adjust the height at the lower portion and don't lose any travel area.

so height adjustment is not based on the spring compression which forces the damper travel to shorten as well right?

[trdproven]

you never touch spring load on megans, there is a lower thread adjustment just for height. Unlike coil sleeves, when you adjust height, you also change spring load. Good thin about full coilovers is that everything is seperately adjustable.

[nics]

i see. thanks trdproven