im starting to think im a GT owner, and dont even know it Options

[grasby]

ok so after a couple weeks of running from one parts store to the next
and custom modifying parts to fit my car
im starting to think i dont have the 7a-fe
whenever i try to get parts, and tell them i have an st
its never the right part, at least not when it comes to the engine and transmission etc...
my car was rebuilt at some point, and my aunt said it was an ST when i bought it from her
but im thinking that either i have a different transmission, or a different engine
so two questions
1. where on the engine do i find the identifying stamp
2. where can i find the same thing on the trans, and anyone know anywhere i can go for info on the trans?
my pride an joy has been locced away in the shop for weeks
i can hear him calling to me from across the street
please help me get ahab bacc out onto the streets
lol
thanks

[presure2]

ok so after a couple weeks of running from one parts store to the next
and custom modifying parts to fit my car
im starting to think i dont have the 7a-fe
whenever i try to get parts, and tell them i have an st
its never the right part, at least not when it comes to the engine and transmission etc...
my car was rebuilt at some point, and my aunt said it was an ST when i bought it from her
but im thinking that either i have a different transmission, or a different engine
so two questions
1. where on the engine do i find the identifying stamp
2. where can i find the same thing on the trans, and anyone know anywhere i can go for info on the trans?
my pride an joy has been locced away in the shop for weeks
i can hear him calling to me from across the street
please help me get ahab bacc out onto the streets
lol
thanks

look at the vin on the firewall, the first few numbers/letters will tell you what you have.

[grasby]

ok this is going to really make me seem like an amatuer but...
whats the firewall?
and where is it?
if it isnt a part of the actaul engine i dont think it will work
because my engine or transmission is definately not the one that came in the car

[jason]

You may also wish to look at engine pay shots on the site here.

st engine bay:


gt engine bay:



its also hard to see, but the 7afe (top pic) sits vertical, where the 5sfe (bottom pic) sits at an angle.

[grasby]

yea, im still not sure
i cant go look at my car to decide
but im really starting to think i have a gt
if i remember correctly my alternator sits closer to the top of the engine
like the 5sfe

[ILuvMyCelica95]

both alternators sit close to the top...

Do you have any information on the car... like your Title or registration... something with the VIN on it?

you have/had hubcabs. GTs have alloy wheels.

That's pretty much all i get from the pics you have of your car.



This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Feb 24, 2009 - 6:57 PM

[SeverX13]

maybe the store gives ur GT parts on accident?


take a pic of the engine and post it. we will be able to tell u if its GT or ST

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Feb 24, 2009 - 6:57 PM

[grasby]

i meant the motore may be gt
the car was originally st, i know that for a fact
the title says it
my problem is at some point
not sure when, all i know is before i had the car
someone put either a new engine, a new transmission, or both
sorry i shouldve specified that my problem is due to an engine or transmission swap
not that i dont know what engine was originally in the car
i cant take a pic right now, the car is closed up in the shop
and locced
im sure im not just getting the wrong parts
i went to oreilly's
autozone
advance etc...


i bought a haynes manual, and found out my cv axle should be like 34 point something inches
and the one i took out of my car
the one thats worked fine since i had it
was about 39 inches

This post has been edited by grasby: Feb 24, 2009 - 7:02 PM

[SeverX13]

i meant the motore may be gt
the car was originally st, i know that for a fact
the title says it
my problem is at some point
not sure when, all i know is before i had the car
someone put either a new engine, a new transmission, or both
sorry i shouldve specified that my problem is due to an engine or transmission swap
not that i dont know what engine was originally in the car

take a engine pic quick. ill let u know what u have

[grasby]

cant car is in shop
sorry, shouldve edited that post sooner
lol

[SeverX13]

hahaha probly

[Euphoria]

well if its real slow its a ST if its just slow its a GT lol, nah if its the GT it will clearly say 5sfe on the engine.

[grasby]

would the 5s fe deff have the red on the cover?
my engine doesnt, it just looks plain


where will it say 5sfe?

[SeverX13]

would the 5s fe deff have the red on the cover?
my engine doesnt, it just looks plain


where will it say 5sfe?

no it wont have a red cover lol. i think if i remember right, it was under my stock hood. in the corner somehere on a white sticker.

[grasby]

where will it say it on the actual engine?
and since i already have the quicc post box open
where can i find some identifying numbers on my trans?
lol, if i can find those numbers i can solve this mystery first thing tomorrow

[SeverX13]

Not sure man, a picture of the engine will be the easiest way. if u can get a pic tomorrow it will be easy.

[grasby]

aight then i suppose i will just wait
and see if i cant find out tomorrow
thanks for the help though

[SeverX13]

no problem man, u can PM me the pic if u want. im usually on here all day. but i must say, u are one of the fastest people ive seen that reply back to a post lol. its like an AIM conversation!

[grasby]

haha
yea im just a stoner who doesnt have much to do
lol, i spend all my free time one the computer, or in the car
and the car is broken down
so im slowly becoming a computer nerd
lol

[SeverX13]

nice man

[grasby]

plus the fact that all my friends are a town over
and my ride has beeen out of commision for weeks now
so im getting pretty isolated from the real world
other than the 6gc forums i dont really talk to people
other than at work, and most of the people i work with are cracc heads
and smelly old trucc drivers

[jimmykay]

The easiest thing I can think of to help you is if the engine says 2200 on the top, its the 2.2L 5s-fe


I have no idea why someone would swap a 5s into an ST. If you're going to swap anything, then why not go for a 3s

[grasby]

well it was wrecked at one point
i figured that much out
my guess is they needed a new engine, and the 5s was handy
because im pretty sure they weren going for performance
just trying to get it running

well the guys who owns the shop its in isnt coming to his shop today
so i cant try comparing pics
or figuring which engine i have.

im just having alot of problems because i dont know what engine and tranny i have
the main problem im having right now are my cv axles arent matching up to anything celica
so im just going to take the new one, and extend it to the lenght of the old one
everything else on the axle is the same, splin count, diameter, etc..
and im tired of waiting on my car to be fixed
tonight.... i make my own cv axle
everyone keep your fingers crossed

This post has been edited by grasby: Feb 25, 2009 - 12:28 PM

[Sinyk]

haha
yea im just a stoner who doesnt have much to do
lol, i spend all my free time one the computer, or in the car
and the car is broken down
so im slowly becoming a computer nerd
lol

tonight.... i make my own cv axle

Fire it up.

[lfk13114]

on the 7afe the engine id is under the top coolant hose, top right hand corner of the block, not the head, the block. on the 5sfe and the others it located above the transmission, below the head. it will give yea the engine code. hope that helps, transmission type i have not clue

[grasby]

ok well i got the cv axle made now
came out great, 100% straight
will put the car bacc together tomorrow
and hopefully ill be bacc out on the road with ahab
haha

Fire it up.

as always my friend

[TRD_Ian]

you should still try to get us up some pics so we can help you out man......it yous cra an auto or a 5 speed? if it has been swaped id hope its a 5 speed...also how did you build an axel man...i am interested in this lol...good luck!

[Euphoria]

sorry I don' think it says 5sfe but it will say 2.2 on the injectors.

This post has been edited by Euphoria: Feb 26, 2009 - 11:20 AM

[jcaron9gt4]

If it says 2.2, it's a 5sfe

[RUNNIN-LOW]

well just look at how the motor is tilted...if it tilts back more then its a gt motor if its just sit straight up and flat then is a st.

[grasby]

just an update
so my engine unfortunately is a 7a-fe
good news is the axle works great
noise is gone from that side
handles perfectly
but bad news is this:
because of my lucc, another completely unrelated problem has arose
i need a new brake master cylinder
alas, i thought my car would be ready tonight
after three weeks of different stuff going wrong
one more has come up
haha, im in a good mood tonight tho
so i suppose i will just order a new master cylinder tomorrow morning







and to answer the question about making an axle
i didnt exactly MAKE one
my old one was the perfect length, so i measure it
and cut out a precise lenght from the shaft
then i put it into the middle of the new axle i had bought ( which before i worked on it was significantly shorter)
at my shop we have machinery and tools that helped me to make sure the shaft was kept perfectly straight
and i welded it myself, so im sure it will hold


its not exactly the smartest idea but i really had no other option
im still unaware of what tranny is in my car
so i couldnt find the right one
and my method was really a last resort

This post has been edited by grasby: Feb 27, 2009 - 1:42 AM

[stephen_lee]

you have an auto or manual?

[ZGear]

Says "manual" on his profile....fyi

[ILuvMyCelica95]

grasby you seem a little confused... and it seems like the "k" key is stuck on your computer.

A few things to clear up for you. The GT engine (5SFE) and the ST engine (7AFE) do not have interchangeable transmissions or engines. It would be a lot of work to take a GT engine and put it into an ST. It's almost the equivalent of doing a 3SGTE swap b/c the transmissions are different, the wiring is different and things are not going to just bolt back together without modification.


My car, for example, was auto... a few years ago it was swapped to manual. My transmission came out of a Carolla.
(1993–1997 Toyota Carolla has a 7afe engine)




I hope that clears things up a little for you.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Feb 27, 2009 - 4:02 PM

[grasby]

no dude, sorry but it doesnt
i know they have different trannys
i just dont know what tranny i have either,
the tranny in my car has been replaced at one point, by what tranny, i dont know

i know for a fact that my car was rebuilt (says it on the title)
not just like, modded, or suped up
but like they took two car halves, and put them together
well thats explaining it simply
dont worry, i know its not as simeple as putting two halves together


anyway, what im saying is this
this car was wrecked, severely, and they put it bacc together.... from other cars,
so.... is possible they used a gt tranny, and engine
which, they didnt, but its possible lol


and no, the "k" isnt stucc on my keyboard
i just refuse to use the letters "c" and "k" in that order
lol, yea its ridiculous, but i have my reasons
a few of you may know why
i use double c's instead of ck
and every chance i get
i use BK
haha, if you dont get it, dont worry about it

This post has been edited by grasby: Feb 27, 2009 - 5:33 PM

[foutong]

Happened to come across this page when i was bored so i decided to paint a picture lol

the underlined letters is the series of the engine and most parts aren't interchangeable