DIY: install factory cruise control in a non cruise equiped car, everything u need to know! lots of pics Options

[Ryouxrs]

well i finally got it done, what is needed for this project are these parts. cruise contol actuator(under hood, and behind gas pedal) wiring harness, brake pedal switch, cruise control computer (CCM), cruise control steering wheel switch and switch cover, SRS clock ring (located behind steering wheel), combination meter with cruise light bulb ( or make your own like i did) well thats all the parts, its not a very expensive job, i maybe spent 75 dollars total on this swap. but it is VERY time consuming. lots of fun stuff to wire in, well here goes nothing... first off install all the little bits and pieces of the system, dnt worry about the wiring just yet. get all the hard part mounted up. once thats all done the fun begins, start by removing the lower drivers dash, glove box, center consoule, water fall trim, and the instrument cluster. (remove the steering wheel if you havnt already installed your new clock ring and cruise switch. the removal and instalation is pretty straight forweard for those parts. all u will need is a short and standard length philips screw driver, and a 10 & 12 mm socket and ratchet. first part of the wiring is the actuator in the engine bay, the wires run under the rad. support to the drivers side inner fender, then into the grommet on the firewall inside the drivers fender, the next step is to drill the mounting holes for the gas pedal actuator, using a 9/32 drill bit, dril the 2 mounting holes in the center of the tar paper punch outs. MAKE SURE TO DRILL SHALLOW!!! one of the mounting holes goes right behind your brake proportioning valve. then using the origional bolts, mount the actuator. then your off to that crazy looking wiring harness. all of the wiring notes, and locations are listed in the pictures below, as well as the toyota diagram for the cruise system. enjoy, and happy cruisin!

sry for the stupidly small print, download the image and blow it up to see writen txt














































PDF file from toyota service manual: please e-mail me with a request for this file, and i will reply back with the requested information.

This post has been edited by Ryouxrs: Jul 12, 2009 - 7:15 PM

[njccmd2002]

wow, dude if this works, props to you. it really is a great task.

[Ryouxrs]

wow, dude if this works, props to you. it really is a great task.

lol, it does work, very well actually, i've been using it all night so far.

[njccmd2002]

just out of curiosity. what was the total cost. 75 seems like too little.... unless you got lucky...



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[Ryouxrs]

just out of curiosity. what was the total cost. 75 seems like too little.... unless you got lucky...



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actually thanks to pick and save in aurora colorado (basically like pick your part in CA.) for all the parts i paid 49 dollars including tax, and the brake pedal switch was 23.50 so im actually under 75 dollars.

This post has been edited by Ryouxrs: Jul 13, 2009 - 10:48 AM

[Ruroniarc]

I really want to do this to my car. Could you give a detailed list of parts that I need off of the other car, and where I can find them in the car. If I'm putting cruise in an ST, do I need cruise parts from an ST? Are there any parts that I have to buy new? Thanks for the right up, I hope to do this soon.

[Ryouxrs]

ok, send me an e-mail to my hotmail, and ill send you the pdf file, it shows all the locations for the parts, yes if u have an st, then your parts need to come out of an st. u can get all these parts used out of a yard if u want, the major system parts are the guage cluster, if u want to get it, i showed how to make your own, the actuator under the hood, and behind the gas pedal, the CCM,(Cruise Control computer) the steering wheel switch, and airbag clock ring, the brake light switch, and the wiring harness that connects it all

[Ruroniarc]

Hey, do you know if it matters whether or not the parts come off of an auto or a manual car? I would think they would be the same, but I'm not positive. Also, if you have cruise on and you press the clutch, the cruise shuts off, right?

[Ryouxrs]

yes, the cruse sytems are the same for manual or auto cars, but if u put an auto cars cruise into a manual, u just dnt use 2 of the wires, and yes if you follow the diagram, when u hit the clutch, the cruise will shut off

[eduardorq]

wooooooOWWWW..!!! very nice mod information... i've want to install the cruise control since i bought my celica

congratulations Ryours.!!

[DEATH]

Fcuk - guess I need to get around to doing this with my 3S-GTE too - I have all the parts except the actuator anyway. I'll update any differences from yours to the 3S-GTE once I get mine done.
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[Ryouxrs]

thanks death, and ya, its pretty much the same for the 7a, and 5s except for the actuator under the hood, and 2 extra wires for the auto tranny cars, but id deff like to have info on the 3s also, make it a complete instal spread for all the models, and engines

[Makabra]

I want to know if i buy cc from RHD car, will it fit to a LHD ? Also are there any differences between cc in 3sge and 7afe? Do i have to buy a cc exactly from the same car spec as mine?

[Makabra]

Anyone?

[Ryouxrs]

you would have to extend the wiring for the lhd/rhd swap and runit a lil diff. but it will work, and 3s, and 7a's have completely diff cruise control systems, but its controlled by a seperate module. so just find the input wires on the other ecu, and instrument cluster, and you can make it work sice our cruise controls actuate the gas pedal directly

[Makabra]

Thanks for the tip !:) Maybe You have any photos of actuator placement in 3sge?

[Ryouxrs]

unfort i dnt dnt have one to dig into and find all the part placements

[Ryouxrs]

Ok everyone ive got an update, ive made it work with the 3s swap! the only difference is the blue and white wire from the
cruise control module now needs to be spliced into the tps black and white wire at ecu pin a11. Connector "a" is the small center ecu connector. other than that the rest of the wiring is the same as the previous write up. the 7a cruise actuator wont fit if you have abs. if so use and actuator out of a gt model. any further questions, post up!

[Makabra]

Ok everyone ive got an update, ive made it work with the 3s swap! the only difference is the blue and white wire from the
cruise control module now needs to be spliced into the tps black and white wire at ecu pin a11. Connector "a" is the small center ecu connector. other than that the rest of the wiring is the same as the previous write up. the 7a cruise actuator wont fit if you have abs. if so use and actuator out of a gt model. any further questions, post up!

Hey, did You also got 7afe cruise computer for 3s swap? Im after a CC to my european 3sge, and Im looking into some cruise diagram ( postet in other thread by batman722 ), but non of the cabels maches above picture posted by You I'm assuming 7afe and 5sfe are totaly diferent ccm's?
Is below diagram for 5sfe ( 2.2 liter engine ) ?

Another question about clutch sensor. Do I need only one clutch sensor to work with CC? >> SWITCH ASSY, CLUTCH 88280-14030






This post has been edited by Makabra: Oct 21, 2013 - 4:29 AM

[Ryouxrs]

Yes, I am useing the 7a setup on my 3s as the system was installed when I still had my 7a. I'm not sure on the physical differences of the 5s vs. 7a in car. I know the under hood actuators are very different. As for your clutch switch there should only be one wire. When I am home from work this evening I will post up the 7a diagram I have so you can use as a comparison if the one you posted is any different. I can tell you for sure that the CCM from auto to manual from either 7a or 5s are the same part numbers so it maybe just as simple as different components for the different standard engines. If I ever get a chance to play with a 5s's cruise system ill be sure to post it here. I hope this helps!

[bsamps4]

Great work! This should be stickied!

[Makabra]

Question:
Which type of clutch sensor do I need? Currently i dont have any, and i see two empty slots in clutch pedal, upper and lower one.

In first picture this is lower one. I suppose this one is for startup, when You need to press clutch pedal to the floor.




So im pretty sure i need upper one which should act like when i touch clutch pedal with my foot it will deactivate cruise control. And i dont need to whole pedal to deactivate, right?



This post has been edited by Makabra: Oct 27, 2013 - 11:55 AM

[Ryouxrs]

Yes. You are correct. The upper stopper in your last picture gets replaced with the cruise control clutch switch. Here is a link to where to find one incase you can't in a junk yard. If you need help installing it correctly pm me. It's just like installing the brake light switch so if you've already done that your set.

http://www.villagetoyotaparts.com/showAsse...product=2401718

The part your looking for on that site shows part number 88280C.
Hope this helps. I'm still tring to upload that st diagram. Sry for the delay.

This post has been edited by Ryouxrs: Oct 27, 2013 - 12:31 PM

[Ryouxrs]

ok here is the diagrams, and a few operation descriptions from the Toyota service manual for the cruise control on our cars.

[Makabra]

Thanks very much Ryouxrs I will post my progress when i grab all parts needed.

[Makabra]

If a donnor car wit CC has ABS with broken sensor, and shows ABS light on dash, that could cause CC to not to work? Other way, does CC use any readings from ABS ecu/sensors ? I found this topic about CC failur, but that's mazda...

http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=396073

This post has been edited by Makabra: Oct 31, 2013 - 6:58 AM

[Ryouxrs]

No the abs doesn't affect the cruise control in our cars. It uses the speed signal from the ECM and the gauge cluster nothing else is external accept for power, ground and clutch switch besides the steering switches, under hood actuator cluster light, diagnostic and e-brake. I think that's it. But don't worry too much especially since "fords" don't have much relevance to our cars. Lol

[Makabra]

Could i replace clutch switch with old 2pin brake pedal one? Since I get new 4pin brake pedal switch, old one is no longer used... But I'm not sure how clutch switch acts when pedal is relased. Is it open or close circuit then?

[Ryouxrs]

I'm not sure how it acts compared to the brake switch. I'm not running one at the moment because I havnt been able to buy one. But I think the brake switch is a different size. It's a tight space up there to fit the fat brake switch housing. And the threads on the mount may be different as well. Your best bet is I just get the correct part.

[Makabra]

I'm not running one at the moment because I havnt been able to buy one.

CC will just work without clutch switch? Or do I have to somehow bypass this circuit?



This post has been edited by Makabra: Nov 4, 2013 - 7:20 AM

[Ryouxrs]

It will but I don't recommend it because if you hit the clutch while it's holding a set speed the engine will sit and bounce off the rev limiter until you hit cancel or the brakes. The only reason I don't have one yet is because my parts came off of an auto trans car.

This post has been edited by Ryouxrs: Nov 4, 2013 - 6:16 PM

[Makabra]

Yes i just want to bypass clutch sensor only once to test whole wiring.

Im thinking to splice into TPS near sensor. Easier to get there and more space to soldering

This post has been edited by Makabra: Nov 8, 2013 - 2:25 AM

[msk59]

I am gathering parts to do this mod on my 1996 ST. I was hoping that it would be a plug and play mod but it appears that it is not. Lets see what happens as I am getting parts.

Actuator is installed but I cannot find the wiring that connects to the actuator. There is a wiring on the passenger side of the radiator that comes from underneath the radiator but the plug is different. Any insight>

[Ryouxrs]

This is not a plug and play mod unless you take the chassis and dash harness out of a donor car and then transplant into your 6gc. You will need to get the parts out of the donor cars wiring harness to make it all work. The plug in question will be at the cruise actuator on the donor vehicle and it runs under the radiator support to the drivers inner fender harness. Make sure the donor is an ST because the GT uses a different actuator.

This post has been edited by Ryouxrs: Aug 29, 2014 - 9:09 AM

[msk59]

Thank You Ryouxrs. I have the actuator from the ST as it fitted in my ST where it is supposed to. The wiring did not come with the actuator and i cannot locate the wire on my car. There is a harness that is not plugged and it comes out of the Relay box mounted on top near the windshield wiper fluid bottle on the passenger side. So far I have collected the following:

Steering wheel with switch that came with spiral cable;
Actuator from an ST and cable (No wiring)
Waiting on someone to sell me the CC module and the wiring.

I read your instructions many times. I understood most of it except a couple of spots I have no idea what are you saying. there are no vehicles in the salvage yards where I live so have to rely on this form or ebay.

[Ryouxrs]

If you have any questions I'll be glad to answer the best I can. The wiring for the cruise actuator will not be on your car at all, I'm not sure what plug you are referring too but like I said, you will have to install all of the wiring yourself. Just remembered something, if the wire harness that's not plugged in your talking about is a two pin connector then that goes to a temp switch in the radiator if you have a GT or a GT4. No need to worry about this connector with an st. It's just for radiator fan control.

[msk59]

Much Appreciated Ryouxrs. The connector next to the radiator now makes sense. I was talking about the round connector that plugs into the Actuator, I do not have that. The connector I am talking about is the one that plugs into the actuator. I think it runs from the CC ECU to the front of the car along the right hand side fender (I think).

[Ryouxrs]

That connector goes from the cruise actuator to the cruise control computer. But it's wiring actually runs from the right front fender, to under the upper radiator support then through the harness under the left front inner fender liner, through the firewall connector and then runs along the dash all the way to the right side of the dash where the cruise computer sits.

[msk59]

Got it thanks. I will double check this location. Do you think it may not have come with the NON-Cruise-equipped ST? Becuase most other cars including Toyota built the same wiring just not installed the parts. When you did yours, did you have this wiring already in place?

[Ryouxrs]

Unfortunately when it comes too the fog light wiring and the cruise control, none of the wiring will be in a car that didn't have those options, that's why I said you'll have to source the entire system from a donor car.

[msk59]

Hey thanks, I will try to do that but I am facing a difficult task. For the 1996, I had the fog light wiring so it was plug and play. But the Cruise control I am afraid you are correct. Anyway I will keep trying to get all the parts. If not i can always install the aftermarket CC.

[Ryouxrs]

Ok. I have a 94 so it didn't have any of the fog light wiring either. Keep me posted on your install and I'll help anyway I can.

[njccmd2002]

please see under the glove box, if you have the plug for the cruise control computer. i have some free days coming up, and need to know if you need this pigtail as well...

[msk59]

Thanks Ryouxrs as always I will keep you posted.

njccmd2002: I am out of town and heading home today. I will check it tonight to see if there are any wiring there. I would also need the ECU for CC.

thank You both for all the help.

[Ryouxrs]

The pigtail njccmd2002 is talking about should be behind the bolster on the right hand side of the glove box as you face it. It is a very large green connector. You can see an example of it on page one of this thread.

This post has been edited by Ryouxrs: Sep 1, 2014 - 10:11 AM

[msk59]

OK I just looked through behind the glove box and I do not see the green pigtail that is on page one of this thread. So I would need that. The only thing behind the glove box is an unused white connector with one side closed and has 6 red with blue stripe thin wires running to it and to the other half, it has 3 black w/ white stipe and two black (total 5) running to the back side of it. this is coming from the main wiring harness. The front of it is closed with while covers.
http://s48.photobucket.com/user/msk59/medi...sort=2&o=15

On the passenger side kick panel, I do not see that large green connector. All I see is this

http://s48.photobucket.com/user/msk59/medi...sort=2&o=16

This post has been edited by msk59: Sep 1, 2014 - 7:06 PM

[njccmd2002]

best pic to have from my archive.



circled is the ecu, and what he is talkin about, the pigtail is big..

[msk59]

OK this picture will help. I don't think I have this pigtail. Is this part of the main wiring? I will reopen the box and examine again. I have to disconnect the battery so I can disconnect the airbag to remove the glove box completely.

Thank you for your help.

[njccmd2002]

its part of the main dash wires.

[Ryouxrs]

Looks like all the pictures you've taken are of the wron location msk, the wires should be to the right of your first picture, and above and slightly rearward and left of your last picture. Njccmd2002's picture show where the cc ecu is in relationship to were your other pictures are. And sorry for the misunderstanding. It is a green connector that is larger in visual reference than all the other connectors that are close by in that area. I forget off of the tip of my head but it close to a 20 pin connector or so.

[msk59]

Yes, After seeing the picture njccmd2002 psoted, I realized that I took the pictures of wrong location. I was using my cell phone and was not able to see with glove box hanging there. Once I fully disconnect the glovebox I should be able to peek in there and take some more pictures tonight. I will then know whether I have that green harness/pigtail or not.

thanks again for all your help.

[msk59]

OK checked everything on the right hand side. It is pretty cramped in there. I do not see the wire with the green connector. So I do not have that pig tail. I have an empty spot where the CCECU can go but that is it.

[njccmd2002]

quick question, if the clutch sensor is only used for the cruise, then why we have to depress the clutch to start the car....

[enderswift]

there are two switches for the clutch pedal. One senses when the clutch is depressed ( a normally open switch) the other senses when the clutch is in its normal position (a normally closed switch)

[njccmd2002]

Hmmm.. Ill go back and see tomorrow....

[msk59]

OK waiting on the parts and wiring pigtail from a member (thank You njccmd2002) and will take a day off to work on the wiring install. Will report back on what I did and what happens. Lots of parts to install.

[njccmd2002]

Anyone have an idea what this means....



Cant find the explanation. Is it a switch or junction?

[msk59]

check the electrical manual and on page 9 it shows something similar called junction connector. there are no other symbol I found. I have a electrical manual for 1996

[njccmd2002]

i figured it out, its only for automatic, and it does not concern manual, its the park switch, normally closed.

[Ryouxrs]

Sorry I havnt been replying guys! I'll be around now to respond so if you have any questions on your install msk59 let me know. This was a pretty in depth task to tackle.

[njccmd2002]

he should have the DIY Kit!!!!

[Ryouxrs]

DIY kit??

[njccmd2002]

he has all my cruise components.. I removed it entirely from my car...

[Ryouxrs]

Nice!! I was actually thinking about building harnesses if there was enough interest. Still would have to pilfer switches and such but that should make it way easier for him!

[Makabra]

Lol, its been almost 2 years now and I just finaly got clutch sensor from toyota previa, so im back in the game Also i bought 6gc steering wheel switch and now i have both, 6gc and 7gc. Meanwhile I abandonet cruise control project due to damage of speed sensor in gearbox. Plug got rust and stopped working so it took me like only 5 months to fix this Today I installed clucth sensor and I extended wires from actuator.

Ryouxrs i hope You'r still there. I have a question about clutch connection. One cable from clutch sensor goes to pin 2 in CCM 9BLK/RED), and second cable goes to Gauge Fuse 10A? Where is this fuse? I dont see anything about this fuse connection in Your first post. Is this because You got power from cig lighter? I have heated seats connected to cig lighter so im woried this can be too much for one fuse?
Also i see that clutch plug has 1 and 2 wires description. Does it matter which one goes to CCM ?

This post has been edited by Makabra: Aug 2, 2015 - 2:06 PM

[Ryouxrs]

I am still trolling the forums. Lol. I'll try to find my schematics and give you what wire goes where. As far as the gauge 10a fuse, that means just what it says, in your fuse panel, find the 10 amp fuse marked "gauge" and run one wire from the clutch switch to a "tap style fuse" that will replace the gauge fuse and run the other to the CCM shouldn't matter as it is just an on off style switch as to what wire connects to either the CCM or the fuse. Shoot me a reply if you have any further questions.