5SFTE Powered 94 celica runs 13.6@108MPH!!, WOOT Options

[presure2]

made it out to New England Dragway today, and got a good handfull of runs in, and managed 2 good runs.
the first good run i bogged a tiny bit off the line, cut a crappy 2.2 60ft time, and ran 13.8 @ 106.

my next run, i reved a little more at the line, and still cut a crappy 2.2 60ft time.
i got thru the shifts pretty cleanly, and managed to run 13.6 @ 108MPH!
that crappy 60ft time, and the 108MPH trap tells me there is still ALOT left in the setup as it is, we just need to dial the car in a little more, and REALLY work on the driving.

feeling great, i was psyched for my next run, hit it alittle harder at the line, but totally missed the shift to 2nd.
when i finally did get it into 2nd, at the top of the gear i felt/heard somthing a little odd, that i had felt from time to time since the last dyno when i got on it really hard occasionally. by the time i got to the end of the track, i realized the battery light was on, so i pulled off, and poped the hood. to my amazement, i popped the alternator belt!
so, we decided to chance it and try and make it as close to home as we could. (its a 2hr ride each way)
we got about 1/2 way, ended up getting stuck in boston traffic, and i stalled the car trying to pedal it in traffic.
we had AAA tow us the rest of the way, and had my cousin pick us up a new alternator belt, and drop it off at the garage.

WOOT, what a day.

i am on the right, #885

[SwissFerdi]

Can't lie, that's some mighty fine reactin'.

[CelicaST_CALI]

DAMM great launch Manny,and even better time!!!

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jul 22, 2009 - 11:38 PM

[presure2]

Can't lie, that's some mighty fine reactin'.

lol thanks, my 1st run of the day, my R/T was .004!!
"go on the last yellow" is what i've always been told. it works.
thanks, 'drew.

[Fastbird]

NICE runs Manny! If you can cut that short time down, that trap speed should get you into the lower 13's easily. 108 is actually good for around a mid 12 but needs a HARD launch that I don't think the 6G can get.

[mk7celica]

How many pounds of boost was you running? Hope I can get in the 13's soon. Great time for a fwd celica

[808celica]

that is BALLA!!!!!!!!! thats damn sick right there manny

[DEATH]

I knew you had it in ya bro. WOOT!
BTW Folks for those that don't know - that is the new official record for FWD 6GC. This is the time to beat from now on.

Gotta get my ass to the track now

[playr158]

nice runs manny!

slips the clutch a bit more

[presure2]

NICE runs Manny! If you can cut that short time down, that trap speed should get you into the lower 13's easily. 108 is actually good for around a mid 12 but needs a HARD launch that I don't think the 6G can get.

yea, the 60ft time needs ALOT of work man, i think prolly 60% of that is driver, the other 40 is car setup.
doing a bit of poking around, mid to low 12's is 100% doable with a 108mph trap speed, if i can get down to a 1.8 or 9 60ft, it should run mid 12's easy.
the mr2 guys who can drive run 11's with 108mph traps.

mk7, it was ~18 or so psi.

808,D,dan, thanks.
we REALLY need to get to the track more often.
if we spent a little more time there, we'd really be running good times.

[Ruroniarc]

I love that track, I wish I was there Wednesday to see you run. But my license is currently suspended in NH. =(

Good times, I can't wait to run my car once I get some more upgrades.

[99GT]

Nice Run. Makes me want another celica.

[Fastbird]

Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

[Sinyk]

Very nice launch!

[presure2]

Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

look close, thats exactly what is on there.
stock 15" 5 spokers, with 225/50/15 BFGoodrich DR's.
i cant wait to see what guys like jim and dustin will run with the 3rd gen swaps with the longer e153 gearing.
shifting 4 times in the 1/4 sucks.

thanks guys!

[Fastbird]

Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

look close, thats exactly what is on there.
stock 15" 5 spokers, with 225/50/15 BFGoodrich DR's.
i cant wait to see what guys like jim and dustin will run with the 3rd gen swaps with the longer e153 gearing.
shifting 4 times in the 1/4 sucks.

thanks guys!

Ah my bad, I can't see anything front work. Ok, so DR's are on there, gotcha. Shifting 4 times is just a fact of life. VERY few cars get to run out third at the top end.

Some thigs to consider to help the launch -- a stutter box if once can be adapted to the 3S (or a MSD with a two step) for building boost on the line and actually launching with positive pressure. Hard on the drivetrain but great on the short times.

Something else to try would be instead of hold a consistent RPM to launch try timing it to where at the 2nd or midpoint between the 1st and 2nd yellow to do a quick rev to launch. A fast sudden rev will build some pressure before it can bleed off as opposed to holding a consistent launch RPM.

How much tire pressure were you running and what kind of RPM were you launching at?? HOW were you launching (fast slip, drop, ect)??

Just some pointers and thoughts for getting that short time down.

[presure2]

Manny, what tires were you using?? Have you thought about some stock fronts with some drag radials????

look close, thats exactly what is on there.
stock 15" 5 spokers, with 225/50/15 BFGoodrich DR's.
i cant wait to see what guys like jim and dustin will run with the 3rd gen swaps with the longer e153 gearing.
shifting 4 times in the 1/4 sucks.

thanks guys!

Ah my bad, I can't see anything front work. Ok, so DR's are on there, gotcha. Shifting 4 times is just a fact of life. VERY few cars get to run out third at the top end.

Some thigs to consider to help the launch -- a stutter box if once can be adapted to the 3S (or a MSD with a two step) for building boost on the line and actually launching with positive pressure. Hard on the drivetrain but great on the short times.

Something else to try would be instead of hold a consistent RPM to launch try timing it to where at the 2nd or midpoint between the 1st and 2nd yellow to do a quick rev to launch. A fast sudden rev will build some pressure before it can bleed off as opposed to holding a consistent launch RPM.

How much tire pressure were you running and what kind of RPM were you launching at?? HOW were you launching (fast slip, drop, ect)??

Just some pointers and thoughts for getting that short time down.

dude, I'm shifting into 5th at the end of that run...that SUUUUCCCKKs. the E153 guys should be able to hit the finish line still in 3rd.
the emanage ultimate can do the 2 step. im kinda afraid to set it up while still on the stock pistons, i've heard it is harsh on the ringlands..lol
yea, my best run was on a nice blip of the throttle just before the last yellow light and kinda dropping the clutch.
i tried launching holding it @ ~2800-3k, and it bogged off the line..so i reved it up more, prolly to ~38-3900 or so, and wheel hopped 1st.
just a matter of getting more runs under my belt i think, im still very much a beginner when it comes to racing.
i had ~20psi in the fronts, ~45 in the rear.
any tips are welcome man, like i said, im still a beginner at this, and if my experiences can help the other guys on the site go faster, im all for it.
we really need to get the ET's on these cars down to a respectable level, and i think all of us as a community can accomplish that goal if we all pool our experiences, and get out there and RACE!

[RUNNIN-LOW]

WOW YOUR FAST!!!!! haha mad props man!!!!!really good time, traction is always a bigg issue for us!

i bet that sentra must have felt super super salty!!!

This post has been edited by RUNNIN-LOW: Jul 23, 2009 - 11:29 AM

[99GT]

Can't you put the E153 on the 5s?

[DEATH]

we really need to get the ET's on these cars down to a respectable level, and i think all of us as a community can accomplish that goal if we all pool our experiences, and get out there and RACE!

x2

P I think your right in the zone there man as far as launch RPMs but it's been a while since I drove 5S. Your numbers are very similar to my own but you got a much better R/T than me and my average 60' is a lil lower. Both of us should be running low 13's/high 12's with our setups.
I'll try to get back to the track ASAP and see if I can add anything to this discussion [plus get some vids of my own]

Can't you put the E153 on the 5s?

Yes of course

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jul 23, 2009 - 1:10 PM

[Defgeph]

That's freaking awesome dude!!!!!

[manphibian]

Sick!!!!


Great run reaction man!

[lagos]

you effin rule manny.

[Fastbird]

dude, I'm shifting into 5th at the end of that run...that SUUUUCCCKKs. the E153 guys should be able to hit the finish line still in 3rd.
the emanage ultimate can do the 2 step. im kinda afraid to set it up while still on the stock pistons, i've heard it is harsh on the ringlands..lol
yea, my best run was on a nice blip of the throttle just before the last yellow light and kinda dropping the clutch.
i tried launching holding it @ ~2800-3k, and it bogged off the line..so i reved it up more, prolly to ~38-3900 or so, and wheel hopped 1st.
just a matter of getting more runs under my belt i think, im still very much a beginner when it comes to racing.
i had ~20psi in the fronts, ~45 in the rear.
any tips are welcome man, like i said, im still a beginner at this, and if my experiences can help the other guys on the site go faster, im all for it.
we really need to get the ET's on these cars down to a respectable level, and i think all of us as a community can accomplish that goal if we all pool our experiences, and get out there and RACE!

Doh! I'm thinking 4 gears, not four shifts. My bad man.

How does the emanage work the two step?? Ignition cut I presume??? That's actually pretty safe as you're still getting fuel keeping the cylinder cool, and that fuel ignition in the exhaust is what spools the turbo up. If it's a fuel cut though, that's not the best way to get it. That's a lot harder on the motor.

[samir0189]

Outstanding R/T Manny!!!

[Random_Stranger]

Dang! Good job Manny!

[Fastbird]

Manny, here's something to help you make the launch easier. Forget about the reaction time. Unless you're bracket or heads up racing, and not just out running for the heck of it, R/T is nothing more than bragging rights. Let the other car launch, sit there for a second, get to where you want, and let rip.

[_Jim_]

well said Fastbird. For those that done know, the reaction DOES NOT affect the ET time. You will run the same 1/4 mile time with a .0001 reaction time as you would with a 10.000 reaction time.

By not worrying about the reaction time, allows you to concentrate more on the launch.

GREAT TIMES MANNY

[supershannon77]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT MANNY!!!!!!!!!

Nice runs! I love 5sftes

whats makes this so great is you just keep getting faster and faster every time you go to the track that is awesome that just means next time you will be even faster! Next time it will be low 13's high 12's for ya

So does Jenn still have you beat or did u finally beat her lol.

[Remy]

Wow thats just kickass...nice job manny, your efforts and hard work paid off and I'm sure your cars gonna get even faster with time.

[presure2]

Manny, here's something to help you make the launch easier. Forget about the reaction time. Unless you're bracket or heads up racing, and not just out running for the heck of it, R/T is nothing more than bragging rights. Let the other car launch, sit there for a second, get to where you want, and let rip.

yea, i knew that.
im the one that told jim that. lmao.
but its good when you can get a good r/t, and run a decent time too.
when i race at the track, i never even look in the other lane when im getting ready to launch.
on the street, the good r/t helps
thanks for the kind words all.

[DEATH]

on the street, the good r/t helps

eyes looking to the left or right for that red light

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jul 26, 2009 - 2:57 AM