fs:RT-P 3 point strut brace, Finished and some for sale Options

[yellowchinaman]

Just a peak into the prototype which was mocked up for test fitting.
There will be some minor changes such as fixings, a few mm positionings to correct, finish in colour, polish and paint.
More information is in the Celica-club.co.uk.

Main key pints abut this design:
Universal for GT4 and non GT4 with it's modified horizantal bar being 5mm lower so NA's can shut their hoods.
Horizontal bar being centralised between the top mounts for strogest point of support
Entire structure being 10% thicker compared to other current brands in the market
Made from AL6063 ,AL5052
Colour will be gun metal and silver.




Correction from this:


Release date: Coming soon.

This post has been edited by yellowchinaman: Feb 3, 2010 - 3:55 PM

[808celica]

Wow some high tech looking stuff General cost range???

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This post has been edited by 808celica: Sep 11, 2009 - 6:33 AM

[yagamius]

looks great, I'll wait for the price

[Culpable04]

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This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 11, 2009 - 10:20 AM

[95CelicaST]

Also interested for sure.

[chacha]

I don't mean to jack your thread, but would you kindly make one for the rear too please.... 3pt bar triangle like the TRD 3pt rear bar for the newer celica.



This post has been edited by chacha: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:39 PM

[TiGZ461]

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Any clue what the price range will be around? And if you get the one for the rearr I'd be down for that as well.

[conus00]

Definitely interested. Depends on price though.

[95st-celica]

x5 on price..give us an estimate even

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[yellowchinaman]

Hi All
Thanks for showing interest.
At the moment the price is yet to be confirmed however we estimate the retail web price no more then £200 per unit.
We do plan on making a rear 3 point strut brace which is under development but that wont be ready untill another few months time.
If your wandering what the finish will look like, try imagining it the same colours as this:

[freddy121389]

It comes with free beer sht i wish i didnt spend my money now

[Culpable04]

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great work tho, and good luck with this.

[808celica]

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great work tho, and good luck with this.

200 pounds is like $382 USD.........well says my currency conversion on my phone lolz sorry a little too much

[yellowchinaman]

Over in the UK the cheapest we can get a 3 point strut brace is the TRD one which is £270 plus postage. The standard 2 point strut brace add on is around £140 second hand.
Our one is a modified version of the TRD and cusco and uprated with a few corrections. Also the two piller beams are adjustable so you can set the stiffness against the fire wall. Something which is not offered on any other makes.

[njccmd2002]

let us know if the price drops,

[yellowchinaman]

We’ve now developed and produced a prototype of 3 point strut brace for Gen 6 Celica. It consists of non-adjustable cross bar and adjustable side-to-center rods. These expand creating “stiffness” and then are fixed with 22mm nuts. I've fitted and tested it yesterday and I'm over the moon with the results Much less flex in the front and more controlled cornering





The prototype (pictured above) came out well but still in need for few corrections. Once these are sorted, we’ll start production.

Facts:

Weight = 3.05kg (including all fixings)
Adjustable side-to-center rods
3mm steel top mount plates and center bracket
Side-to-center rods D = 22mm
Cross bar thickness: 20mm x 40mm
Cross bar and side-to-center rods made of AL6063 or AL5052 aluminium (need to clarify which one)
Top mount plates & center bracket colour: gunmetal
Cross bar and side-to-center rods will be polished

Price:
RRP is POA but will be way under £200 mark (still with 10% discount for 6G members)
Shipping and handling fee for UK and Ireland is £20


Now there’s few more pics:





The cross bar was designed to be aligned as with centers of shock absorbers.


Oval shaped holes will be reduced to exact size; angle of brackets for fixing side-to-center rods will be improved; center bracket depth will be reduced.


Adjustable side-to-center rods have ball joints on center bracket ends.




Remember price is still yet to be announced however because people have asked for an estimate, I would say it'll be £200 MAX no more. However based on the currentimporting conditions, it is most likely to be less then thatso please dont be discouraged.
RT-P's products are not designed to be cheap. We are to be competitive and to fabricate our products to a very high level of standards in terms of performance and finish.
At the moment, based of the specs and modifications, this is the one of the best strut braces you'll find.

[domyz]

a strut brace is a strut brace. the space between struts don't work so hard
in what it is better?

[dagreatone]

once u have a price set i'll let u know

[whatthe]

You only have one hood strut on your car? o.O

[yellowchinaman]

a strut brace is a strut brace. the space between struts don't work so hard
in what it is better?

Not true. Alot of strut braces are made of different mareials and their charactoristics vary in strength and tensile flex.
Where as a 2 pont strut brace signicantly strengthens and limits flex between your two top mounts at doesnt redcuce twist in the engine bay like a 3 point.
A good strut brace can transfer enough force to press down in the opposite shock absorber when cornering hard. If your brace is not made strong enough and not rigid enough, energy is lost via flex or it'll do nothing.

The horizontal brace on ours is located centre between the braces not on the top or bottom edge of the top mounts offering the strongest and most direct line of support.

You only have one hood strut on your car? o.O

Yes because I have a carbon fibre hood which is very light and two gas struts is too much of an overkill.

This post has been edited by yellowchinaman: Sep 13, 2009 - 11:13 AM

[chacha]

update?

[OOBE]

Who cares about the price? That thing is sweet. I am IN!

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[808celica]

Who cares about the price? That thing is sweet. I am IN!

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Im broke

[yellowchinaman]

Update.
Its been over a week now and so far we've tested it in urban conditions in city roads and pushed it hard in country road.
Handling is greatly improved wish such sharp turning response. Literally point the front end and gun it and it will go.
We've had may GT4 members from the GT4OC forum visit our cars and they are all very impressed with it's build, strength and design and it's been prompted as a must have for serious track users.
With the help of others we've made some slight changes in design for improvements. Thinning down the fat and strengthening certain parts.






The rods will be left unpolished same as prototype and ends will be painted gun metal.

As stated price is still to be announced but will be under the £200 mark. Not £199.
Postage from UK to US will be £45. Total price is still alot less then leading brands at a lower spec then ours.
First batch is already all sold out in the UK.
Second batch should be ready in about 2-3 months time so you have plenty of time to save up.
For now lets just keep the list growing.

Ray


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[SwissFerdi]

Literally point the front end and gun it and it will go.

Easy for you to say when you've also got power at the rear wheels to push the end around.

If you make these long enough, I'll eventually be in a position to need one.

[lilgreenyoda]

Do you have the ability/willingness to ship to the United States? If so...

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[whatthe]

How much shipped to Australia, sydney?

[OOBE]

Who cares about the price? That thing is sweet. I am IN!

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Im broke

You have plenty of time to save up bro but if by the time they're ready you don't have money, I'll cover you.

[SwissFerdi]

How kind. Can you cover me too?

[yellowchinaman]

I can ship to the USA.
As for postage to Australia, sydney and anywhere else in the world, best I find out when I have them with me for a more accurate price.
I only know postage to USA cos we had 1 sent there.

[kagemidnight]

you need any contributions to get this project up and going? If so I say we all pitch in, you've done tons for this site...plus I want one now!!! lol

[yellowchinaman]

you need any contributions to get this project up and going? If so I say we all pitch in, you've done tons for this site...plus I want one now!!! lol

Thanks for the offer but we're good on this.
The project is up and running. The reason why you need to wait is because the first batch being made are all sold out on pre-orders to other club members in the UK and to some retailers.

Second batch should be ready in 2 months time so even if I wanted to I cant get one to you any sooner.

[808celica]

Who cares about the price? That thing is sweet. I am IN!

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Im broke

You have plenty of time to save up bro but if by the time they're ready you don't have money, I'll cover you.

No need man Saving for my Vegas trip. Priorities

[yellowchinaman]

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[OOBE]

No need man Saving for my Vegas trip. Priorities

Awesome. I was going to Vegas back in April but my buddy had some problems so we had to cancel. Bummer. Gosh, I can't wait for this thing. It'll look awesome since my car will have a new paintjob. Plus, I'll be the only once in Puerto Rico with that part.

[2bcelica]

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[BonzaiCelica]

very solid prodcut, but adjustability in the front is it really necessary??

[yellowchinaman]

very solid prodcut, but adjustability in the front is it really necessary??

Mainly needed for precision installation.
You see when we tested different strutbraces in different cars we found variations in the positioning of the firewall bolts.
Probably due to the difference in engine weights and suspension setups. eg the heavier 3sgte compared to the 3sfe.
Quite often the braces where pushed hard left or righ or wedged into place and this can cause slight changes in your alignment.
What the adjustble rods offer an easier install and less strain in the structural formation reducing warp.

[BonzaiCelica]

So im guessing the adjustability would make it a little more expensive, alright thanks for the explanation.

[yellowchinaman]

So im guessing the adjustability would make it a little more expensive, alright thanks for the explanation.

Hmmm... never thought of it that way.
This being the only adjustable brace in it's class.
It's grade in Alu and thickness.
Only one in it's class with a corrected point to point brace where it should be.
Still cheaper then C-One, TRD and Cusco of the same type.

[pittfirefighter]

being able to adjust it also allows you to be put reverse torque on it... on a solid piece... once its installed there will still be a small amount of play between the bars and the bolts and the mounting location... this makes it easier to install (otherwise you would be trying to install a bolt that was just "a little bit off the hole")... when you have an adjustment.. you can fit the piece and then expand it til its actually creating pressure on the bolts BEFORE the tension (rocking of the car) creates the pressure... in high performance this is a great attribute over non adjustable... everyday driving will really not notice any difference though... but some of us do have 6gcs that are not everyday drivers only thing is... the over piece you removed this idea from... it shouldn't be too bad because if installed correctly you have pressure coming from the weight of the car when you pull your jack but adjustable would be better....

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Oct 1, 2009 - 11:10 PM

[yellowchinaman]

only thing is... the over piece you removed this idea from... it shouldn't be too bad because if installed correctly you have pressure coming from the weight of the car when you pull your jack but adjustable would be better....

Hi pitfighter. I didnt quite understand what you meant about this bit sorry.

Other notes.
The adjustable rods have counter locking nuts which stops it from moving after.
We aim to fabricate products for track users mainly where performance is more important then syling and our main target audience in the UK are mostly Toyota Sprint Series racers which are featured in Bansai magazines every month.
Most people would settle for a regulare 2 point strut brace which does help for road use and for looks but once on track your car does go through alot of structule strain. The 6G isn't actually as rigid as what most people think.
If you are a track user, wanting to win you must always thinka about safety, strength, weight and performance.
The current prototype currently weighs 3.5kg.
The final produc was redesigned to be stronger then the prototype and lighter at an estimated weight of 3kg or less.

[pittfirefighter]

just a comment that adjustable strut to strut would be better, but it is not as much of an impact as the adjustable strut to firewall...

[yellowchinaman]

just a comment that adjustable strut to strut would be better, but it is not as much of an impact as the adjustable strut to firewall...

I see I understand now.
We have thought about that too.
At the moment the only strut to strut available for the 6G is the C One 2 point with the adjstable mid bar to extend and shorten the middle rod. However it was not made to fit the GT4 because it was basically too weak like a branch twig.
The problem we found with this was:
a) Under extreme cornering the load is way too much for the middle rod and quite often when set to hard the threads very quickly wear and is not sustainable.
b) By extending and shortening the strut to strut can actually warp the frame and change the camber of the wheels in the long run.
c) Very easy to install incorrectly causing A+B problems so rather then making a complicated accessory work, simply use a solid fixed corrected length. You can have the wheels aligned before strut fitment and not change camber after fitting or you can have alignment made after fitting. Both works without any worries.

[frotou]

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[yellowchinaman]

I've been getting PM's asking if this is still going ahead.
The answer is a definate yes.
They are being made at this moment.
Though the first batch is already sold, the second batch will be ready hopefully by December in time for xmas. If not then January.

Ray

[BonzaiCelica]

updates?

[Euphoria]

maybe keen, will see when its released, looks solid though.

[HectortheRican]

Definitely let me know of the price. I'm intetrested. I live in the US

[yellowchinaman]

updates?

First batch was all sold out to some private buyers and foreigh retailers based on pre-pay.
They're arriveing this or next week then to be dispatched.
If there are (and that's a BIG IF) there are some spare, we'll post some up on ebay so keep an eye out.

Not going to show you the final pics but here's a look at the development.






Also we've started development into a matching rear 3 point brace. Here's the template.

This is just the template. In no way does a standard 1 inch steel rod can be strong enough for a serious track user. The actual products will be similar to the front 3 point with a lot of GIRTH.

[chacha]

price of the rear...? im in

[yellowchinaman]

price of the rear...? im in

Waaaaay to early to price it yet untill we've ordered all the materials in.

[yellowchinaman]

Here's a pic of mine. (excuse the origional purple middle hub. I kept it on from the prototype.)

[yellowchinaman]

We have a few left over so it's now on ebay.
We can post to anywhere around the world if you're willing to cover postage cost. PM me and I'll give you a quote.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Strut-brace-tower-ba...=item3a5757ddc1

[carcamo]

how much is thid in us dollars?

[MGCustoms325]

Very Nice Product! I was thinking of getting the c-one 3 point but I think I like this one better. Any more available?

[JayRRideR]

Do you have the ability/willingness to ship to the United States? If so...

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[JuMPiiN]

Does it improve the turning and such ? If so how much ?

[BonzaiCelica]

updates for the N/A version. for the 3S-GE and 5SFE/7AFE please.

[elco]

i would like to buy both. let me know when i can..