Found this pretty funny, Integra VS Celi Thread Options

[TiGZ461]

A friend of mine told me something about a H22 powered 6g and I just had to Google it. Never found it but while looking I came across a Supra forum discussing which is better between the Integ and Celi. Pretty funny what people post, I'm a die-hard Honda enthusiast, not because of what I see on the streets but of what they do on professional circuits and events. But the idiots on that board remind me why I hate having one.


ummm let me just give you guys the link.......

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532666

[99GT]

It should be...

Honda Vs Toyota

Acura Vs Lexus

This is a fair discussion.

I've thought about Honda power in a celica before... I think it'd be awesome.

[freddy121389]

If you read it it's more talking about why people don't buy a celica and swap a 3sgte in it compared to owning a honda. Obviously the 3sgte would kill any honda out there but i think the reason is money. Honda's are cheaper and easier to maintain and do performance mods to.

[richee3]

If you read it it's more talking about why people don't buy a celica and swap a 3sgte in it compared to owning a honda. Obviously the 3sgte would kill any honda out there but i think the reason is money. Honda's are cheaper and easier to maintain and do performance mods to.

That was the original argument, but reading through there, I don't think a single person has any idea what they're even arguing about anymore. They are just trying to force their opinions on everyone else. It's funny, there's so much Honda love on a Supra forum... I guess all those kids with their beater Civics know what's good for them, even if they won't admit it. You don't sign up for a Supra forum if you have no love for a Supra.

[TiGZ461]

^Thats my point.

It started out as a simple question and it was a pretty cool topic as well. But as you keep reading the topic gets way off topic and the Honda fan boys just start bashing on all of Toyota's 4cyc. The yota guy's made some good statements but those Honda guys are too hard headed. Main reason all those Honda's can push some much out of their engines is due to the fact of the huge amount of after market support. If we had as much support as they give Honda hell I think there would be a hell of alot of powered NA yota's out there.

[95CelicaST]

They push power better than us because Honda's head design > Toyota's head design

[richee3]

^^^ That's all too true. Plus, Honda pushes performance a lot more than Toyota does. Every car Honda builds, it seems is built with an element of performance, similar to how Toyota builds every car with fuel economy in mind. That's why the Civic Si is still around, but the Celica died out (sales were a much, much larger factor, but the Si is still here.) Honda ATV's are different. Where other ATV manufacturers build their fourwheelers with performance in mind, Honda builds them on the premise of quality and rider comfort. I find it funny that Yamaha is one of Honda's top ATV competitors, and Yamaha built the motors in our cars, which were competition for the Civic. Back on topic though.. Honda pushes performance in their cars much more than Toyota does, and it shows.

[razor7]

You have to keep in mind that the 6th gen celica was also oriented towards females more so than males (the supra was the opposite). I still find it's styling to be pretty much be Unisex, but I think initially Toyota was hoping for different sales.

You also have to keep in mind that outside of us, and our amazingly awesome cars, a vast majority of the population viewed the 6th gen as the "ugly duckling" of the Celica line. The lack of sales versus the 5th gen also resulted in aftermarket companies considering other routes to make products for. Couple this with Toyota putting in "efficient" engines (5s, 7a) it didn't seem profitable by 3rd party companies to make products, even if people did buy them.

Had Toyota thrown in the 3sge/3gste engine on USDM cars and marketed them towards younger males, everything would be different right now...

However even with that being said, I thoroughly enjoy seeing a modded up celica much more than an integ. Integs are a dime a dozen, sure they push the 200hp boundaries much easier than our cars, but they have no soul, no personality. I'd rather get love from another celica owner, than "props" from just another integ owner....

-TC

This post has been edited by razor7: Oct 15, 2009 - 11:02 PM

[garin]

i always found it funny how supra owners disown the celica; while we respect the supra... there is nothing wrong with the celica. it is a fun, good looking car! a supra is rwd, turbocharged, 6 cylinder and what not, but still respect your roots! a gt4 could do some serious damage to a supra!

[lagos]

Just because they are more popular, doesn't mean they are in any way better. Most people own a Honda because that is what their mom bought as her daily driver, and it eventually got handed down to junior who turned it into a street beast with cut springs, an intake, and an exhaust.

The real truth is that our 3sgte's are far better engines than anything the honda guys can swap in.

[Promasta]

i hate hondas
but damn, one of the fastest 6s only does 13.6 (no offence) with 307whp?
civics with 300whp do 12s all the time
wtf?

[stl95celica]

buying a honda is like giveing up in a fight..

[project671]

why is that forum not moderated? original posted question is about the 94-99 celicas and why dont more people mod them...THEN on page 2 a guy posts a pic of a 5th gen celica...and it all goes downhill after that...i havent read the whole thing yet, but as far as i can tell (read all posts till page 9) it turns into a battle between alot of honda series motor vs. the 2zz which was found in the 7th gens...and those guys arent showing no toyota love there, i mean yeah...having a 7a motor sucks...but i still love it cause its a toyota...

[tomazws]

Personally, I think a lot have to do with the looks. Not everyone can stand the 4 eyed Celicas, it requires taste. Honda cars on the other hand, looks very generic and very easy on the eyes for most people. Plus, the Celicas were way overpriced in the first place. So everyone buy Hondas and after 10, 15 years... the Celicas become rare as hell, parts stop producing and become rare as hell. And to be honest, stock USA Celicas ARE slow as hell.

Either way, I have a unique taste and I love the weird looking Celicas with a rich rally history that ended sadly. And I'm glad I found a forum filled with a bunch of people with the same love for this rare car.

[SwissFerdi]

I love my car. The 7A-FE is... nothing. But it's has NEVER failed or acted up on me once *knocks on wood* and gets pretty great gas mileage. The car itself is just sexy...I mean, there are some awkward angles to it, especially sometimes around the headlights...but that gorgeous ass more than makes up for it. Basically, I love what I drive. I barely ever see 6GC's, much less another car that looks like mine. Our cars are unique and I like that. AND, at least in my opinion, not much has to be done to a Celica's exterior to make it look great. I'm only lowering mine and adding some splitters to complement my side skirts, but other than that, not much will change.

[lagos]

i hate hondas
but damn, one of the fastest 6s only does 13.6 (no offence) with 307whp?
civics with 300whp do 12s all the time
wtf?

Our scene is tiny. Its not about the car or the power.
You are referring to the 1/4 time of one forum member, vs hundreds if not thousands of honda owners who have attempted runs with varying turbo, suspension, tire, and not to mention driver setups.

This post has been edited by lagos: Oct 16, 2009 - 4:02 PM

[razor7]

i hate hondas
but damn, one of the fastest 6s only does 13.6 (no offence) with 307whp?
civics with 300whp do 12s all the time
wtf?

Our scene is tiny. Its not about the car or the power.
You are referring to the 1/4 time of one forum member, vs hundreds if not thousands of honda owners who have attempted runs with varying turbo, suspension, tire, and not to mention driver setups.

Not to mention that the 13.6 was achieved with a non-gutted celica (to my knowledge) while the 12s are being run by completely gutted civics.

-TC

[TiGZ461]

And not to mention we have the heaviest of all Celica's. Correct me if I'm wrong on that but I've heard that the 7g weighs in less then the 6g.
Also someone stated before that our headlights isn't something everyone likes. I was one of the many who didn't like it, but they grew on me and find it sexy now.

I myself hate the fact that Honda really looked into the somewhat tuner/import scene and made their engines really tune-able and Toyota didn't. Well maybe Toyota did give it a try, but I think the after market support forgot and dropped any ideas they had for the Celica due to their price range and rareness of them and not to mention their really low powered engines.. Maybe if Toyota would of sold them at a lower price range or at least sent over the same engines that were put in the Celica's across sea we would have more Toyota's all over the place and also the fear of getting it stolen everyday like every Honda owner out there.

Lol but that's also a thing I love. Our car's are taken as a joke and put down by everyone even other Yota owners. Noone ever expects anything from them and that's when the swaps come in and so long to that.


Off topic kinda of. Does this belong to anyone on the board here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OPFPojidm8...feature=related

[Random_Stranger]

Just because they are more popular, doesn't mean they are in any way better. Most people own a Honda because that is what their mom bought as her daily driver, and it eventually got handed down to junior who turned it into a street beast with cut springs, an intake, and an exhaust.

The real truth is that our 3sgte's are far better engines than anything the honda guys can swap in.

I agree and plus Honda drivers dream of driving other cars. See, I am all about Toyota, that I want to get my Celica going, even if I buy an MR2 Turbo. In fact, I think of it this way. Cost for vehicle.

For the price of a Supra these days, you can convert your Celica into a GT-Four and perhaps more mods to equal the price of what you pay for the MKIV supra, because let's face it, that is the bad ass everyone dreams of, right?

Take the cost of the Celica, or MR2 Even, and put money into them to equal the cost of a supra, and you got something that can spank the $#!T out of it. So that's how I see it.


Anyways, back to the Honda guys. Yes, I think V-tec is quite awesome and is done better than any other car company has tried to copy and came out on bottom. Yet, isn't it funny how Honda guys can't figure out what engine to go with? My friend brought up an interesting point. He is a DSM guy, I am a Toyota guy, we know what engines of our car make that we love the most and what they are capable of and for him, it is the 4g63t, for me, it is 3sgte (which they use in the Top Secret Supra, hmmm... I wonder why? Perhaps... Better Displacement/weight distribution! That's why). But you notice Honda guys are like, I want LS engine, no I want LS-V! No, I want H22! Nah, I wan GSR. How about K20? Yeah K20. All those engines cannot be as good as the other, there has got to be one that is dominant over all. So that's just my point.

I got Honda people in my Engine Overhaul class that see me rocking Toyota all day every day, and they always ask me if I want to sell my car because they want to buy it. So when I see people ditch the Celica for a civic, it kind of makes me laugh.



This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Oct 17, 2009 - 9:30 AM

[Stambo]

This is exactly what my buddy told me the other day. Why don't you sell your piece of SH&^ purple car and buy a honda and make that a beast. I said i'd rather not get a honda because everyone has one of those damn things. I mean just on the way to school if I don't see a honda with an exhaust pigs must be flying. I can go weeks without seeing a celica with anything done to it. The celica is great because its unique and no one has it. So what if parts are hard to find, once you get them all together the celica is a beast that doesn't look like a go cart.

None the less honda guys will be honda guys and will think vtec will beat anything.

[soulshadow]

Its true, Toyota's are only fast if they Look like Panda bears and have Tofu stickers on them.

This post has been edited by soulshadow: Oct 17, 2009 - 2:58 PM

[hatchy_gt-s]

IDK if anyone noticed but i like how TrueSlideXL says that the 7th gen is the only 1 with vvti when theres the BEAMS 3SGE just throwing that out there

[Random_Stranger]

IDK if anyone noticed but i like how TrueSlideXL says that the 7th gen is the only 1 with vvti when theres the BEAMS 3SGE just throwing that out there

Isn't there also a 4th gen 3sgte that is also VVTi? I thought I seen one for sale that supposedly was 10more HP than the 3rd gen.

[blu94gt]

After owning a Prelude Si and several Celicas, I have to say I prefer the Celica. The Prelude's steering felt numb, and the car sucked on gravel and off-road. Plus it got horrible gas mileage for a 2.3 litre that required premium. And the thing weighed in at over 3000 pounds, pretty heavy for a small car IMO.

Our Celicas, on the other hand, may not have the power but I feel like my car handles much better than any Civic or Prelude I've driven, on road or off, minus the new Civic Si's (one Honda I would own). But we all already know this

[Random_Stranger]

After owning a Prelude Si and several Celicas, I have to say I prefer the Celica. The Prelude's steering felt numb, and the car sucked on gravel and off-road. Plus it got horrible gas mileage for a 2.3 litre that required premium. And the thing weighed in at over 3000 pounds, pretty heavy for a small car IMO.

Our Celicas, on the other hand, may not have the power but I feel like my car handles much better than any Civic or Prelude I've driven, on road or off, minus the new Civic Si's (one Honda I would own). But we all already know this

LOL Celica may not have the power vs a prelude? oh that reminds me of an incident I encountered last night with a friend from school who caught me on a street at a stop sign and made a suggestion that resulted in utter embarrassment for him in front of his friends, yet gained a new respect for Toyotas.

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Oct 18, 2009 - 9:12 PM

[richee3]

I have friends that love Civics. They think they are God's gift to mankind. But those guys can't get enough of my car. I have another friend that did the RB20 swap into an S13, and is now building an S14. He loves the tranny in my car. He loves the gearing and how short the throws are, and I don't even have a short throw shifter. The 6gc has something to offer everyone. I've been asked if my car was an '08 model Celica before, and everyone else I know cays they like the 6th gen more than any other body style.

Want a good laugh? This is a stereotypical Honda guy. Seems like every guy who obsesses with Honda is exactly like this.
Prepare to laugh until your sides hurt.

EDIT: The driving scenes in that video were made at a Toyota dealership. Just so you know.

This post has been edited by richee3: Oct 18, 2009 - 9:44 PM

[SwissFerdi]

^ I'd like to see his 1/4 run...10's? Granted, it might be fast...but they look like crap to me. Honestly, that thing has no styling. And (ignore this if it has anything to do with performance that I don't know about) I love how his rims don't match.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Oct 18, 2009 - 9:57 PM

[TiGZ461]

Sorry but I would disagree with you on that. My favorite Honda happens that hatchback (eg) , after being driven in 5 of those with all different powertrains I must say I love them. They feel like go-karts. Real light and low to the ground.


I agree on our Celica's looks though. I guess no ones ever seen a 6g with a lip kit or GT4 spoiler around here since everyone thinks its a newer model that I crashed. Way more looks then my cousin hatchback or the rest of his crew get. Lol they all say they want one since they love the looks but say their too weak (since they don't do any research on it) so they won't get one.

[SPID33]

i must say that i am a celica guy at heart but i own a civic 1990 hatch. and i must say i love them both, im not a speed kind of a guy and yes i belive the hatc is sooo much lighter than the civic but i just love the look of these cars. my civic has a d16a6 swap in it and from what i hear its ok in power but do some mods and its even better but like i said im not a speed kind of a guy but the way gas is here in Ct i need all the help i can get and both cars are great i just wish i could like split in 2 and drive them both at the same time. i love my celi and civic.

[blu94gt]

After owning a Prelude Si and several Celicas, I have to say I prefer the Celica. The Prelude's steering felt numb, and the car sucked on gravel and off-road. Plus it got horrible gas mileage for a 2.3 litre that required premium. And the thing weighed in at over 3000 pounds, pretty heavy for a small car IMO.

Our Celicas, on the other hand, may not have the power but I feel like my car handles much better than any Civic or Prelude I've driven, on road or off, minus the new Civic Si's (one Honda I would own). But we all already know this

LOL Celica may not have the power vs a prelude? oh that reminds me of an incident I encountered last night with a friend from school who caught me on a street at a stop sign and made a suggestion that resulted in utter embarrassment for him in front of his friends, yet gained a new respect for Toyotas.

Yeah, Celica doesn't have the power of the Prelude. They Prelude's F22 has 135 hp, about the same as a 5sfe, but the H23 in the Si has 160 hp at the crank and the H22 Vtec puts out 190 hp at the crank. I don't know which your friend had, but I'm guessing it was an F22 and/or he doesn't know how to drive. And remember the Celica is a bit lighter, but not enough to compensate for the power difference.

[boosted185]

I'm going to step out on a limb here and voice my opinion on this controversy, since well, that seems to be the going trend. Honestly, it's all in taste. If you want a cheap reliable car that is very easy to mod, the Civic, or any Honda for that fact, is your choice. It is way to easy to build a Honda. And I'm sorry, but the "Cheap, Reliable, Fast...pick two" quote does not apply to Hondas. I can attest to this. I have a fully built EJ1 Civic that is also my daily driver. Next spring when its fully tuned I will be laying down 380-400 whp. Hondas just accept mods soo much nicer than Toyotas do. Ask Jim, ask Shannon, ask Brent or anyone else who has a 5S-FTE or 3S-GTE. Toyotas are tempermental bitches when it comes to tweaking their performance. This is also why I have a 3S-GTE project sitting in the garage, and has been for 4+ years, and my Honda got built in less than 6 months.

I can see everyones point of view from a neutral standpoint. I feel, and this is MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION, but I feel that if your an automotive enthusiast, you should be open minded towards everything in the performance world. I know Hondas seem to be Toyotas competition, but don't knock the Honda guys. They put time and money into their cars just like everyone on these forums to with their Celicas. To me, that deserves respect.

Just my $.02

[SPID33]

I'm going to step out on a limb here and voice my opinion on this controversy, since well, that seems to be the going trend. Honestly, it's all in taste. If you want a cheap reliable car that is very easy to mod, the Civic, or any Honda for that fact, is your choice. It is way to easy to build a Honda. And I'm sorry, but the "Cheap, Reliable, Fast...pick two" quote does not apply to Hondas. I can attest to this. I have a fully built EJ1 Civic that is also my daily driver. Next spring when its fully tuned I will be laying down 380-400 whp. Hondas just accept mods soo much nicer than Toyotas do. Ask Jim, ask Shannon, ask Brent or anyone else who has a 5S-FTE or 3S-GTE. Toyotas are tempermental bitches when it comes to tweaking their performance. This is also why I have a 3S-GTE project sitting in the garage, and has been for 4+ years, and my Honda got built in less than 6 months.

I can see everyones point of view from a neutral standpoint. I feel, and this is MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION, but I feel that if your an automotive enthusiast, you should be open minded towards everything in the performance world. I know Hondas seem to be Toyotas competition, but don't knock the Honda guys. They put time and money into their cars just like everyone on these forums to with their Celicas. To me, that deserves respect.

Just my $.02

I know Hondas seem to be Toyotas competition, but don't knock the Honda guys. They put time and money into their cars just like everyone on these forums to with their Celicas. To me, that deserves respect.
AMEN TO THAT BRO!

[richee3]

^ I'd like to see his 1/4 run...10's? Granted, it might be fast...but they look like crap to me. Honestly, that thing has no styling. And (ignore this if it has anything to do with performance that I don't know about) I love how his rims don't match.

Lol. I forgot he made the claim that his Civic runs 10's. It can not and will not run a 10. He runs that in the 1/8, not the 1/4. We don't have a 1/4 mile drag strip around here. The mismatched rims, he can't afford anything better so he buys what he can and puts them on there. He never has any given rim longer than a month. And the stock Honda wheels looked best on that car. His car only has a D16B in it. It's 130ish hp. It'll never run 10's, like other Honda motors. But I can attest that his Civic is much lighter and faster than my Celica.

But who cares? His car looks and sounds like crap. Any time I go somewhere with him, I'm the one that gets all the attention. And you don't have to go fast to look good. When I see a nice car, I respect it a lot more if the person cares to go slow. When somebody is ripping through town, I immediately assume bad things about them, even if they might be the nicest person in the world. And that is my problem with Hondas. Every Honda owner I've ever met* is a complete moron that things they have to floor it everywhere they go just so people can hear their Ebay exhaust, and they think they get mad "props" from everyone around, when in reality, it's quite the opposite. I'm quite content with the fact that anyone that swaps a K20 into their Civic will be faster than my GT. I'm just grateful that I don't have the "floor it to be as loud as possible and try to make everyone think I have friends" mentality.

*We don't have good Honda owners here. Only the guys that saw F&F when they were 12 and want to be just like Paul Walker. I can't rip on every guy that owns a Honda. Goferris and boosted185 seem like really cool guys.

[SwissFerdi]

Lol. I forgot he made the claim that his Civic runs 10's. It can not and will not run a 10. He runs that in the 1/8, not the 1/4. We don't have a 1/4 mile drag strip around here. The mismatched rims, he can't afford anything better so he buys what he can and puts them on there. He never has any given rim longer than a month. And the stock Honda wheels looked best on that car. His car only has a D16B in it. It's 130ish hp. It'll never run 10's, like other Honda motors. But I can attest that his Civic is much lighter and faster than my Celica.

But who cares? His car looks and sounds like crap. Any time I go somewhere with him, I'm the one that gets all the attention. And you don't have to go fast to look good. When I see a nice car, I respect it a lot more if the person cares to go slow. When somebody is ripping through town, I immediately assume bad things about them, even if they might be the nicest person in the world. And that is my problem with Hondas. Every Honda owner I've ever met* is a complete moron that things they have to floor it everywhere they go just so people can hear their Ebay exhaust, and they think they get mad "props" from everyone around, when in reality, it's quite the opposite. I'm quite content with the fact that anyone that swaps a K20 into their Civic will be faster than my GT. I'm just grateful that I don't have the "floor it to be as loud as possible and try to make everyone think I have friends" mentality.

*We don't have good Honda owners here. Only the guys that saw F&F when they were 12 and want to be just like Paul Walker. I can't rip on every guy that owns a Honda. Goferris and boosted185 seem like really cool guys.

I was gonna say, that can't be the in the quarter. But that car is also an example of why I'm not a fan of most Hondas...like you said, the rims don't match...but just look at the peeling paint on the front bumper. Honestly, I can respect wanting to go fast...but I'm gonna build my exterior first and then focus on the engine. I am just not a fan of cars that look crappy.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Oct 19, 2009 - 8:51 PM

[TiGZ461]

I'm completely the opposite. Well before I had my 6g anyway. I could car less about exterior as long as I had a decent built engine in the bay. But I guess I was a more go and less show guy before. I guess it's a "before" factor due the my ST being so slow and the only thing it really has is looks so why not right? I must admit I'm obsessed with how my car looks now, I just love it. Yea I'm not the fastest but meh, every time someone see's it they stare at it for a while since it's not something you see everyday.

On another note I found it quite funny when my cousin got his first hatchback and I was so impressed by it since I had never seen it. But as soon as he got it he goes "I would never see this car but once I got one, now their everywhere". Now I feel the same due to I never would see them before but now I see at least 4 a day going to school or while working on my car at my cous. garage.


Can't wait to drive my car for the first time, worked on it for so long and everytime I look at it I feel like I'm blow the 180mph mark in less then 3seconds cause of how fast it looks

[SwissFerdi]

I guess it's a "before" factor due the my ST being so slow and the only thing it really has is looks so why not right?.

I think that's a huuuge part of it, since making these cars remotely fast is the most expensive to do.

[Euphoria]

This is why its great living in Australia, its rare to see people in riced hondas, we just get commodore and falcon drivers over here, most of my mates just like a variety cars and don't just like one.

[Random_Stranger]

LOL

[richee3]

^^^ Win.

You know what? We can argue Toyota vs. Honda all day long. Both have their ups and downs, so I'll leave it at this: I drive a slow girl's car, and I'm proud of it. Celica FTW.

This post has been edited by richee3: Oct 26, 2009 - 7:22 PM

[2celicas2love]

Personally, I think a lot have to do with the looks. Not everyone can stand the 4 eyed Celicas, it requires taste. Honda cars on the other hand, looks very generic and very easy on the eyes for most people. Plus, the Celicas were way overpriced in the first place. So everyone buy Hondas and after 10, 15 years... the Celicas become rare as hell, parts stop producing and become rare as hell. And to be honest, stock USA Celicas ARE slow as hell.

Either way, I have a unique taste and I love the weird looking Celicas with a rich rally history that ended sadly. And I'm glad I found a forum filled with a bunch of people with the same love for this rare car.

AMEN!!that is the reason I got my celica in 99 when the whole stupid rice trend honda craze was really full force, no one really had celicas everyone wanted the same stupid accord or civic, no originality, and indeed generic looks. And yes, the parts are rare and the cars are rare, that's what makes us so different and so much better and personally I don't care about being the fastest car in town, I don't race and honestly I don't feel like getting my car impounded and demolished as punishment. Majority of us are here for the love of the car not to race at a speedway or do some stupid street racing that is so lame anyways.

LOL

ha ha hey you sexy Celica !

[mafix]

truth be told...when it comes to the 6g running 13's while the civic runs 12's. suspension. bottom line. it's not power or weight but the fact that toyota suspension is designed to handle. and handle very well.

[CastrolCelica]

I know I'll be lynched for saying this, but no Honda on the market currently, or in the last 15 years has peaked my interest.

I drove my father's Accord when I was learning how to drive stick, and it had the worst shifter in the world. Of course, I didn't know that then, but now that I've driven other sticks, I can attest I see nothing that is great about it's performance OR it's looks. (the Accord has to be the most boring car on the road..especially the 90's and early 2000 models).

I'm sure you can drop a better engine in there, or put a bunch of crap in there to make it move faster than a Celica, but as a stock car they're horrid little things and the interior and exterior makes you want to fall asleep. His Accord was a silver one with a blue-silver interior with silver seats.... It was the most monotone generic POS I've ever been in.



Anywho, I'll get off that track...even stock the Celica is a beauty and is a fun car to drive. I don't get a car that will smoke the competition (or else my cars I've owned wouldn't be a Beetle, Prius and Celica). However, what I do buy are attractive, reliable, and extremely well balanced/fun to drive machines. I will never buy a Honda and I will never "get" them.

In my humble opinion, you can put spoilers, exhausts, lips, skirts, rims, ect on a box, but at the end of the day it's still an ugly box......that sounds like it's farting. That's another good point. When I rev my engine, my "noise" is a hearty noise coming from the ENGINE. The farting ricer Hondas I see all have their noise coming from the muffler, which tells me one thing and one thing only. It's just the exhaust. I'm not saying you can't do good things to Hondas, but I'm tired of people thinking that since their car is loud that there's power behind it. I want my engine to sing, not my ass.

Sorry for the crass attitude.. I guess it's just years of aggravation when I see these painted rustboxes passing by me every day on my way to work, trying to convince me to race them on a crowded highway.

This post has been edited by CastrolCelica: Oct 30, 2009 - 2:03 PM

[richee3]

I want my engine to sing, not my ass.

I'm tempted to quote that for my sig. Lol.

[Stambo]

LOL

You have a great looking celica right there

[yarik83]

I tried to avoid this thread at first and well temptation to post is that much more since I have some time this weekend.
Lets leave make and model aside and talk about things that matter. A driver can make all the difference in any car. So can tires and so can the car itself. I am by no means a worthy successor to Shumacher but I have been around the block a few times to make myself better than average driver. There is not a day when I do not exercise my right to conduct less than legal passes somewhere out there in my state. Not because i am rushing into but because other drivers feel like they have something to prove. Whether its pulling up to a gas station or 7/11 or blockbuster or grocery store, there are always drivers out there who show absolute disrespect for my vehicle. When they see a celica they immediately jump to guns and think that its slow and that its a girls car and then they see my taillights about 20 car lengths in front of them and try to justify their loss to bad shifting or some other unforeseeable force. I don't know how fast my car runs on 0-60 nor I know about quarter mile times. All I do know is when I have some fun with my co-worker's 2007 sti and my neighbor's 2005 evo mr I always come to the finish line first. It is not something to boast about nor do I intend to. I love their cars as much as I love mine.
So far out of dozens of fun moments I think I only lost once and that was before I put my greddy BOV. My car hit max boost and ripped coupling off giving me the biggest scare of my life for that year. But then of course my car is always lighter then opponent's and my horse power was dynotuned to 261 to the wheels and it does have engine management system but that does not mean that my car is better than person that I beat or do not beat. I always shake hands or give verbal respect to my opponent because I know how much tears and sweat and money went into building their machines. I always encourage people to be safe, drive smarter and race within their bracket. Mine just happens to be in between early JDM and mid pack jdm. I am sure that my car would not stand a chance against something like a ferrari but heck with 200 more horse power or if it was gutted out like a wrc car is ... maybe.

I say we promote encouragement, respect and help people get the best out of their cars safely.

[SwissFerdi]

I am sure that my car would not stand a chance against something like a ferrari but heck with 200 more horse power or if it was gutted out like a wrc car is ... maybe.

I respect everything else that you're saying, but this...umm...

[Smaay]

owning an All-Trac, 6th gen, 7th gen, and a MKIV Supra. Honestly the car i like to drive the most is the 6th gen. Its just an all around good looking car. rides smooth and handles well. i love my Supra and the other celicas, but the 6th gen is my favorite

[96stgreendemon]

ok this is just my opinion, i may only be 19 but i have driven my fair share of hondas, infinitis, lexus's, and a few tegs and here is what i have found out, the car i learned to drive with was an 03 civic lx, and it was slow as **** and had a lot of body roll to it, but i thought it was cool because i used to be all about hondas. then my mom got an 03 accord with the 2.4 lier I-vtech, and let me say this car will scream, but it is ugly as sin and the handleing is horrible, now my second car i had for 2 years was an infiniti j30. ugly as ****, horrible handleing, but it was rwd and i loved that. and it had the 300zx tt motor in it, yes fast but extremley hard to control, if it was moist outside the ass end would kick out, so i sold it and bought the celi. the celi being my first 5 speed i love it, she is the best handleing car i have ever driven, and my dad has an 09 IS 250 AWD, and i stil prefer to drive the celica and it is great on gas, just a little slow, my dad who is 45 years old would rather drive my celica to work than his IS 250, now thats saying something, even though he works for toyota, but the celi is by far the best i have driven

[CastrolCelica]

I am sure that my car would not stand a chance against something like a ferrari but heck with 200 more horse power or if it was gutted out like a wrc car is ... maybe.

I respect everything else that you're saying, but this...umm...

Ooooo, 6gc.net's new slogan......"Celica. Better than Ferrari"

I want my engine to sing, not my ass.

I'm tempted to quote that for my sig. Lol.

I will if you will haha. I thought that was well put myself.

[delusionz]

This is kinda biased, We're talking Civic/Integra Vs Celica on a Celica forum. Lol

But I can honestly say that in no department is any Civic or Integra better than my Celica.

(Possibly because it's an ST205 Celica lol, So I'll leave you folk to defend your USDM versions )

[Jared95]

Accord > Camry ... Just bough a 2004 Accord EX I4 and it has been nothing but the best ride, heated a$$, and XM radio all day long. Now dont get me wrong the Camry is a smooth ride my mom has an 05 XLE loaded but she is asking me to drive my Accord and trade for a few days...my accord has a higher KBB than my moms 05 with almost the same amount of miles.

Integra > Celica ( only because the celica is so sexy ) Integra does not take near as much to make it look good. and will rape a celica in performance. I drove a celica for three years and have been antagonized by all my honda friends.... it is just to be different...which is much needed when everyone in the world has a Honda.

I hate to say it as much as everyone else cause I love my Toyota, but ...

[azian_advanced]

[tomazws]

As long as I know my car is sexier. I really don't give a ****.

[BonzaiCelica]

haha azain advanced I love that animation funny stuff right there!!