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[Superaison]

I baught a 94 Prelude S with 141k miles on it. Has a F22A1 in it.

Here is what it needs;

Bit of engine work, only running on 3 cylinders(kinda). Has compression, changed plug wire, plug, etc.. could be injector, maybe rings?

Windshield(Got one quoted, they come to house and install it, $163.. Got that cash already, but saving incase I need for engine.)

Rear quarter rust(usual honda cancer)
Drivers side rear quarter needs a bit of bondo

Small dent on passenger door(bondo, or pop back.. both? lol)

Front bumper(lol)

Passenger side fender(least of my worries tbh)

Drivers side CV Boot/axle (it clicks when you turn left, whatever though)


That's about it really. I got it for $500, and drove it back about 2 hours. Not trying to dog on Celica's, I love Celicas and all, but atm the prelude running on 3 cylinders smokes my 7afe celica.. then again I haven't driven my celi in a few months.. And the prelude made it back on 3 cylinders and such 2 hours, celica can't drive an hour without blowing a gasket.. lmfao.. I love my celica though.. Sad i gotta get rid of it(or fix it for cheap cheap cheap)... But i'm prolly gonna part it(already got a thread)

Pics.

[mmmchocolate]

man that thing looks in good shape....i never liked that generation of prelude personally, the one after that is prime though.....what does your shirt say?

[Superaison]

man that thing looks in good shape....i never liked that generation of prelude personally, the one after that is prime though.....what does your shirt say?

lol Bullet For My Valentine.. A band I like.

[mmmchocolate]

ha i thought i read that, i wasnt sure. i got that one album everyone has of them...sorta forgot about them though. at least you listen to good music

[pittfirefighter]

wow love ohio and their non inspection laws lol

[Superaison]

wow love ohio and their non inspection laws lol

lol?

What you mean?

I don't think my area inspects. I know Cleveland does.

ha i thought i read that, i wasnt sure. i got that one album everyone has of them...sorta forgot about them though. at least you listen to good music

I listen to a lot of crap lol.

This post has been edited by Superaison: Oct 20, 2009 - 9:00 PM

[freddy121389]

looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you man, gl and keep us updated. You should swap an h22 vtec in that, then that thing would smoke 90%+ of the celicas out there lol

[Superaison]

looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you man, gl and keep us updated. You should swap an h22 vtec in that, then that thing would smoke 90%+ of the celicas out there lol

I don't have cash for a h22a1 (i do want one for it, though)

Money from my celica is going toward the lude though. Maybe eventually down the line if someone wants to trade me for a celica I will. But if my prelude burries the spedo, then idk.. I haven't tried yet, I don't like speeding.

[TiGZ461]

Interior wise, I love it. I have the same seats in my 93 Accord, they hug you on every turn.


But to the point I wanted to state. Dude I think you have more work in front of you then you had in your 6g, why would you do such a thing? This is probably a the worst thing you could've done with your money. What did you need in your 6g, a motor swap? And what do you need in this to function proper and look proper?

Sorry I don't mean to down you since you got a Honda, it's not about that. All I'm trying to get to is, did you even calculate how much you are gonna spend on this just to repair it? This is coming from experience, I bought my 6g but I wrote down everything I needed and possibly would need and I passed my marker by a couple hundreds. Trust me right it down and see how much everything is gonna cost you and if it's really worth fixing. I hope you good luck with this car, but give it a good taught.

[808celica]

Why do you keep buying crappy junked cars??

This post has been edited by 808celica: Oct 21, 2009 - 4:09 AM

[95CelicaST]

So you sold your celica with a bad motor and got a prelude with a sh*t ton of body damage and a bad motor.


You continue to defy logic. Incredible.

[Superaison]

My celica has a lot more wrong with it. With about 100k more miles. The prelude is a not as bad as the celica.. really.. lol. I personally don't really like hondas, but I give credit where needed. The celica is a turd. and will always be a turd. If you saw it in person you would probably say it belongs in a junk yard. If you really feel the celica was the better car, come buy it from me.

And atleast I can drive the prelude...

This post has been edited by Superaison: Oct 21, 2009 - 11:55 AM

[terbear4god4life]

the stock h23a against a stock 5sfe will be horrid trust me i tried the hh23's have crazy top end..

[Jared95]

prelude sounds to be a way nicer car than your celi so congrats to you ... even if your celi was in perfect running condition the prelude would win on 3 cylinders.

[95CelicaST]

the stock h23a against a stock 5sfe will be horrid trust me i tried the hh23's have crazy top end..

I baught a 94 Prelude S with 141k miles on it. Has a F22A1 in it.

[TRD_Ian]

well congrats! as stated before you seem to defy logic, you got so bumbed out about the celica lookin like crap and running like crap.... and how do you solve that issue?? you go out and buy a rust bucket honda, that looks like crap and runs like crap..... you say the celica is a turd?.....well no wonder genius the same friggin thing is gonna happen with that lude.... ignoring problems such as cv/axel issues and driving two hours on 3cyl's thats pure genius at work, you should have invested into the celica and or bought something that didnt require this much work because you yourself know your gonna half ass it all and be in the same boat a month down the line then b*tch and moan that your honda sux and you want something else... i suggest go dig your bike outa the shed and use that to get back and forth and put ur cars out for sale on your lawn.... but hey by all means prove me wrong and fix that honduh up and prove to me it was worth investing in....until that happens..... don't get ur hopes up on v tec...it sux

[spolski07]

f22? so someone swaped in an accord motor into that prelude? sounds like you got ripped


uhh good luck with the build?

[cjh4l22]

f22? so someone swaped in an accord motor into that prelude? sounds like you got ripped


uhh good luck with the build?

no smartie it came stock ("S" model, as stated) with an f22a1... where have you guys been? lol only the SI model came w/a h23a1 that year

[Superaison]

Well.. Thing is with prelude, It's a lot cheaper to fix than celica. Seems as people are thinking i'm dissing on my celica.. I honestly don't really like honda's.. But prelude's aren't bad and it was 500 buck. It won't be too much to fix it, and I got friends who know hondas like their own mother. Owning a toyota where I live is like owning a hummer. Nobody fixes them, unless you fix it yourself. Well sadly i'm not a mechanic. I love my Celica, dad said get rid of it. Can't even give to my brother. Yeah I coulda parted celica and all that and saved my current cash and baught a probably nicer vehicle.. But I need one now. The prelude isn't insured and barely runs tbh but I am driving it anyway because I simply need a car. The whole 3 cylinder thing idc, if it blows up my friend has a f22 he took out of his accord he said he will give me for about $50(worthless to him). It's not in the prelude yet because I am too busy.

Honestly. I want to fix the lude and drive it and feel comfy that if it breaks atleast it'll be cheap to fix..

Was that a rant/flame.. idk.. but people are getting the wrong idea.. I talk **** about my prelude and idc. It pisses me off but it moves, celica don't. Bottom line.

[spolski07]

my b, i stand corrected.

good luck with the build, and parts are everywhere for these cars

[CelicaST_CALI]

gl with the build though..

[Superaison]

I need my celica to part out quickly. lmao

[Nartanian]

I need my celica to part out quickly. lmao

$35 shipped for the driver side airbag

[TiGZ461]

I get the point on how it's "so much easier" to repair your Lude due to having friends. But any of your friends if they knew anything about car's would've told you this was a pass from the get go. How bad is the rust? Not a visible rust but the stuff behind and under the frame? How long to you think that CV boot is gonna hold?


I'm not "flaming" because I have nothing better to do or because it's not a Celica but telling you this because this is/will be a bad investment.


Things you know are wrong
-Rust needs to be repaired but on this car who knows how bad it's underneath
-Cv Boot/axle repaired
-Bumper
-Fender
-PS corner light
-Windshield
-Running on 3 pistons? Let's see if you'll actually repair it, if you do good for you.

Things you should change when getting a used car
-All liquids, coolant, oil,trans, etc etc
-Timing belt
-Might as well do the water pump and thermostat
-Filters
-Spark Plugs and wires
-Tires look about done, well your rear ones so start looking for replacements once your front ones finish up
-Brake pads
-etc

And how bout the suprises everyone get's when the previous owner isn't completely telling you all the known issues? Have fun finding out.


Really wasn't trying to offend you, just trying to be honest. I myself know what it's like saying oh it's just gonna be a couple hundred dollars thats all. WRONG. Just on repairing the issue's I knew it had I spent say $1,005. And then I had to buy tires, liquids, timing, radiator and quickly I was at the $2k range. And I still have to spend on the suspension, since it's worn out. I know I've bought other stuff that really wasn't necessary but this is gonna be my DD so I might as well repair everything I can now before it's on the road. Having another car to drive helped me out alot so I could take my time repairing it.

As for you this is your DD and you only current car, what are you gonna do when it fails on you? Are you able to have it down for sometime?

Take a good look at the car, inspect it for a while and REALLY REALLY think about it, is it worth putting money into this?

If anything I would part or sell this car and put it into the Celica, once again not because it;s a Celica and this is a Celica forum. If it were the other way around say the Celica was the one you just bought and the Prelude was the one you painted grey and white I would say to sell the Celi and put that cash in the lude.

[Random_Stranger]

It may smoke your 7afe, but won't smoke a GT. Trust me, I know from experience. 3 nights to be exact. But good luck with your HONDA

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Oct 22, 2009 - 12:51 AM

[Superaison]

I get the point on how it's "so much easier" to repair your Lude due to having friends. But any of your friends if they knew anything about car's would've told you this was a pass from the get go. How bad is the rust? Not a visible rust but the stuff behind and under the frame? How long to you think that CV boot is gonna hold?


I'm not "flaming" because I have nothing better to do or because it's not a Celica but telling you this because this is/will be a bad investment.


Things you know are wrong
-Rust needs to be repaired but on this car who knows how bad it's underneath
-Cv Boot/axle repaired
-Bumper
-Fender
-PS corner light
-Windshield
-Running on 3 pistons? Let's see if you'll actually repair it, if you do good for you.

Things you should change when getting a used car
-All liquids, coolant, oil,trans, etc etc
-Timing belt
-Might as well do the water pump and thermostat
-Filters
-Spark Plugs and wires
-Tires look about done, well your rear ones so start looking for replacements once your front ones finish up
-Brake pads
-etc

And how bout the suprises everyone get's when the previous owner isn't completely telling you all the known issues? Have fun finding out.


Really wasn't trying to offend you, just trying to be honest. I myself know what it's like saying oh it's just gonna be a couple hundred dollars thats all. WRONG. Just on repairing the issue's I knew it had I spent say $1,005. And then I had to buy tires, liquids, timing, radiator and quickly I was at the $2k range. And I still have to spend on the suspension, since it's worn out. I know I've bought other stuff that really wasn't necessary but this is gonna be my DD so I might as well repair everything I can now before it's on the road. Having another car to drive helped me out alot so I could take my time repairing it.

As for you this is your DD and you only current car, what are you gonna do when it fails on you? Are you able to have it down for sometime?

Take a good look at the car, inspect it for a while and REALLY REALLY think about it, is it worth putting money into this?

If anything I would part or sell this car and put it into the Celica, once again not because it;s a Celica and this is a Celica forum. If it were the other way around say the Celica was the one you just bought and the Prelude was the one you painted grey and white I would say to sell the Celi and put that cash in the lude.

Except, my father said I can't keep my celica. So...

[808celica]

It may smoke your 7afe, but won't smoke a GT. Trust me, I know from experience. 3 nights to be exact. But good luck with your HONDA

everynight for me baby!!! if its not vtec i win

[Superaison]

Vtec is for pussies imo.

[SwissFerdi]

It's been stated...but I don't think this was all that smart of a decision. If the engine was running completely well, then yes, you could forgo having a nice-looking car because it actually runs when the Celica doesn't. But I mean, it's not that strong on either part...there's a lot of exterior work to do and the engine is on 3 cylinders.

Having said that, good luck with fixing her up.

[Superaison]

It's been stated...but I don't think this was all that smart of a decision. If the engine was running completely well, then yes, you could forgo having a nice-looking car because it actually runs when the Celica doesn't. But I mean, it's not that strong on either part...there's a lot of exterior work to do and the engine is on 3 cylinders.

Having said that, good luck with fixing her up.

Imo, the prelude moves. Celica don't. What's wierd is it only acts like that on idle, but once u actually give it gas it's fine. Really wierd. Even still I may do a small rebuild, but my friends said they'll charge me for the toyota, but not honda (they know what the hell they are doing with the f22). So I kinda save $.. Oh well. I want to trade the prelude for a celica down the line sometime.

[richee3]

The Prelude may have problems, but the Celica has problems too. I see where you are coming from, having a running vs. non running car. Parents don't always see things the way kids do, so if your dad really said get rid of the Celica, then do what he says. That's unavoidable. I say don't touch the motor in the 'Lude. Just buy your friend's motor, the one you can get for $50, and have them swap it in. Have a rust bucket that will run well. Get the car running reliably for cheap (that's a benefit of Honda's. Motors are everywhere, everyone knows how to work on them. It's all cheap.) then repair the body, starting with that front bumper. I don't know about Ohio, but that's a ticket here. I'm not even sure if there's a law for that here, but cops get bored. But fix the 'Lude up, get it running right, then worry about frame rust and other issues after the car is safe to drive. If other issues arise, then save some money, sell the car, and upgrade. You paid $500 for the car, semi-running. Put your friend's motor in the car and you shouldn't have any problems getting your money back out of it to move on to something else. That's what I would do, if I was in your position.

[garin]

Vtec is for pussies imo.

vtec is for fuel economy, not a female's no-no area... imo

This post has been edited by garin: Oct 22, 2009 - 11:05 PM

[soulshadow]

Do you even have the money for a project car? You should look at yourself first and ask your self. Am I a mechanic? Do I know Hondas? DO I HAVE THE MONEY?

if you answer no to any of those questions your better off to junk the car or get rid of it cause it will only drag you down.

[TiGZ461]

basically what i mentioned earlier. ^

[boosted185]

Vtec is for pussies imo.

You DO realize that Toyota has their version of "vtec"....vvtL-i.

Honestly dude. I know you probably want a sporty looking car to drive around, but to me, it sounds like you just need a reliable source of transportation. Why would you buy that poorly-running, rotting Honda when you could have bought a decent Corolla, Prism (corolla in denial), or Civic for just a few hundred bucks more? A Prelude with all the problems that it has is not going to be a reliable daily driver for you. You are going to have to throw twice into that car just to get it road worthy than had you spent a few hundred more and bought a car to get you from point A to point B.

Just my $.02

This post has been edited by boosted185: Oct 23, 2009 - 10:11 AM

[TRD_Ian]

lmao your never gonna get your money back outa that lude, imo that guy seen you coming... from the looks of the rust on the out side i can just imagine what ur floors and sub frame look like....my question is why is ur dad so against the celica? lol did he not see what you brought home??? "he dad check it out! bought my self a rust bucket thats running on 3cyl's that needs a ton of work!" way better then that celica i guess.... in all honesty my opinon wouldnt change if this wasnt a celica forum....like cam said you should have just bought something reliable that didnt need work, then down the line you could banked money and bought a sporty car again.... you friends need to learn more about cars....hondas and toyota's...pretty much every thing from japan aint that hard to work on, except for the few pain in the a$$ cars.... iv worked on preludes of this gen and i find them harder to work on then any other car iv wrenched on...
any who....oh and also 50 bucks for a motor....you seem to think that will solve those issues....its prolly 50 bucks for a reason yea know

[Superaison]

Well, the only rust is the quarters. Normal honda rust. I know the prelude needs work. But I can't keep celica. I don't mind project cars. Biggest thing with the prelude is it has 100k less miles than celica, and its the same year. Idk, just my 0.01 I guess. I needed something that moved for cheap, and I could fix rather cheaply. The celica is a LOT more money to fix than honda. The rust i couldn't give a **** about right now tbh.

[95CelicaST]

There isn't a facepalm picture big enough....


Edit:


At the bottom of the list of competent thinkers on this site, you're fixing to pass up mrgrape and start digging through the floor

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Oct 23, 2009 - 12:48 PM

[TRD_Ian]

atleast grape bought something worth driving lol, yea u dont give 2 sh!ts about the celica and the rust.. we know that much, when ur axel sh!ts the bed and the motor goes boom and the other motor only lasts a week ur gonna be in the same boat man....hunk of junk that doesnt move.....altho judging by the rust you could prolly make a sweet flintstones mobile outa the lude.....have fun with your project

[njccmd2002]

wow, just wow,

[spolski07]

Vtec is for pussies imo.

what is your reasoning for this?

i-VTEC is amazing, espically in the DC5R and the S2000's.
those cars move and are honestly 2 of the most fun cars to drive, not the fastest, but fun none the less.

[soulshadow]

YEP Here it is!

[Superaison]

Prelude issue is timing belt. So i'm replacing that as well, the water pump as well, and alternator belt...

Friend has them laying around.

Price of fix: $0.

[dabazied]

First off, when you need a car bad, are on a limited budget and all that jazz, a $500 prelude isn't bad. It definitely looks like it's going to be a project and need some work for a while but it's still a decent find I think. Maybe not for a DD, but ya do what you gotta do I guess.

So let me get this straight, the whole issue was a timing belt? What made you think it was a bad cylinder, or was this something new that happened? I'm a bit confused.

Good luck with it all though.

[Superaison]

First off, when you need a car bad, are on a limited budget and all that jazz, a $500 prelude isn't bad. It definitely looks like it's going to be a project and need some work for a while but it's still a decent find I think. Maybe not for a DD, but ya do what you gotta do I guess.

So let me get this straight, the whole issue was a timing belt? What made you think it was a bad cylinder, or was this something new that happened? I'm a bit confused.

Good luck with it all though.

No idea. But it's about a tooth off time.

[TRD_Ian]

is it 0 dollars because these parts are used?? used parts like that will only be a temp fix u realize eh, i realize your on a budget but id look into a new water pump and timing belt....alt belt dont really matter as long as its in good shape.. but if thats the case these are used parts i wouldnt touch the timung belt and id wanna be damn sure the pump wasnt gonna let go a month later

[Superaison]

is it 0 dollars because these parts are used?? used parts like that will only be a temp fix u realize eh, i realize your on a budget but id look into a new water pump and timing belt....alt belt dont really matter as long as its in good shape.. but if thats the case these are used parts i wouldnt touch the timung belt and id wanna be damn sure the pump wasnt gonna let go a month later

No, my friend had them laying around from when he had a prelude a few months back. He just figured "well i'm not using them, here you go".

[njccmd2002]

[boosted185]

Prelude issue is timing belt. So i'm replacing that as well, the water pump as well, and alternator belt...

Friend has them laying around.

Price of fix: $0.

First off, when you need a car bad, are on a limited budget and all that jazz, a $500 prelude isn't bad. It definitely looks like it's going to be a project and need some work for a while but it's still a decent find I think. Maybe not for a DD, but ya do what you gotta do I guess.

So let me get this straight, the whole issue was a timing belt? What made you think it was a bad cylinder, or was this something new that happened? I'm a bit confused.

Good luck with it all though.

No idea. But it's about a tooth off time.

PLEASE tell me your not putting USED parts....ESPECIALLY a timing belt, on your car. And if I were you, I would triple check to make sure it was ONLY one tooth off. I'm not sure about the Honda F series motors, but some Honda engines are an interferance enigne. If it had jumped more than one tooth and IS an interferance engine, you might have some banged up valves. Bite the bullet and put a NEW timing belt on that motor. ~$30 at Auto-zone. If you need, I get a discount there and can get one for you. Don't cut corners with a Daily Driver.

[Superaison]

Well, they are new. I'm not that dumb I wouldn't put a used belt on an engine.

[TRD_Ian]

sure yea are

[TiGZ461]

[soulshadow]

Come on a Timing belt new is only $20 at the most. If you can't even afford that. I feel like an idiot now for posting in this topic .

TIMING BELT PRICE

This post has been edited by soulshadow: Oct 24, 2009 - 11:45 PM

[garin]

This thread is a FAIL