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post Jan 24, 2010 - 6:24 PM
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hey guys and girls im thinking about picking up a celica but stuck between a couple things. Between the 5th gen and 6th gen which is lighter? i love the looks of both so im going off weight. Im also interested in doing a swap im probally gonna have 3-4 grand depending on the celica i buy for the swap. Probally going to see the doc to do it but dont know between 3sge beams and 3sgte or just turboing the stock motor. looking for somewhere around 300whp reliable and most likely end up spending more haha but all help is appreciated thanks!!


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post Jan 24, 2010 - 7:32 PM
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hmm id do 6th gen i hate the 5th gen looks.

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post Jan 24, 2010 - 7:50 PM
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But performance wise what would be the best choice between both chassis and engine wise?


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post Jan 24, 2010 - 8:05 PM
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I like the looks of the 6th gen a lot better, but if I were you, save that cash, look around and if you're doing a swap anyways.... why not start out with a 5th gen alltrac. Take the time to find one and then just do upgrades from there, just my opinion. Plus having awd definitely is a plus.

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post Jan 28, 2010 - 4:54 PM
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Comparable models of the fifth-gen weigh about 250 lbs more than the sixth-gen; however, those pounds seem to have come at the expense of crash worthiness.

Your best platform for a performance vehicle will be an ST coupe. By virtue of it being a coupe the body is significantly stiffer than the liftbacks or convertibles and these are the lightest versions of the Celica. Of course, that makes the 3SGTE swap that much more difficult as the engine bay is set up for an A-series engine.
post Jan 28, 2010 - 10:27 PM
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i've owned both. the 5th gen is definitely heavier and feels more solid than the 6th gen. the HVAC fan is louder in the 5th. shifting in the 6gc is 3x shorter but the 5th gen is better for downshifting. the 6gc has a much better interior design (and placement of the stereo and interior controls), but the 5th gen has better cup holders smile.gif. 5th gens have electronic seats that adjust the lumbar and rib compression which were removed in the 6gc (this feature is great and made cornering so much more comfortable and fun). 5th gens rust quicker. if you're getting a 5th gen get one with the 10 spkr audio, they're awesome.


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post Jan 28, 2010 - 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (pagii @ Jan 24, 2010 - 5:24 PM) *
hey guys and girls im thinking about picking up a celica but stuck between a couple things. Between the 5th gen and 6th gen which is lighter? i love the looks of both so im going off weight. Im also interested in doing a swap im probally gonna have 3-4 grand depending on the celica i buy for the swap. Probally going to see the doc to do it but dont know between 3sge beams and 3sgte or just turboing the stock motor. looking for somewhere around 300whp reliable and most likely end up spending more haha but all help is appreciated thanks!!


6th gen coupe is the lightest (iirc) 5sfte is about the cheapest way to go; to achieve 300whp. unless you know a parts/salvage shop that can get you an MR2/alltrac 3sgte 1-2nd gen for about 500 or less. good luck with that though; round here the motor alone goes for 1500/mr2 2nd gen. rolleyes.gif that's also asusing that you'll be doing all the work yourself.

and believe you me, there is plenty of resource here to DIYself. plus WI has several members, so you're okay. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 29, 2010 - 1:02 PM
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don't get an alltrac from WI. they're usually rust buckets cuz people used them as winter beaters frown.gif. So sad, i was thinking about buying one too but all the ones I found were rusted out. but if you could find one in good condition I buy it. best way to go. other than that. I like the style of the 6th gen better. and they are more of a rare sight as i see the 5th gens almost anywhere i go. but GL with finding one smile.gif


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