sharing a nice wallpaper, one car is missing, shame, but still is great Options

[njccmd2002]

Missing the MR2, dunno why.

[lagos]

like!

[96bluevert]

Already got it

[HaysoosKreesto]

I think they left it out because they want to combine (as best as possible) those three cars into the ft-86. The legendary car enthusiast status of the MKIV, the drifting power of the AE86 and the name? of the Celica? Or just the fact that it was really powerful for 4 cylinders. But uh... yeah... uh... yeah.

Awesome-tude picture.

[CelicaST_CALI]

sweet

[Random_Stranger]

Is the FT-86 even going to be that good? I have yet to hear some real stuff about it. Seems everyone is just protecting the Toyota name by the things they say regarding it. But it's specs vs the other cars out there and how far you can take it is my question. If it is going to be something that isn't that good that you can make into WHOA! Then I might get it. If not... Then whatever...


And the AE86 needs to go... Was never a powerhouse like the MR2 SW20 was/is (even J-spec best model was better than then Supra RZ on 1/4 time stock vs stock).

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Apr 9, 2010 - 10:47 PM

[SwissFerdi]

^ From what I've read (don't know if this will make it into production), they're stuffing a 170-HP flat-four into it. But power doesn't matter...what does matter is that it's an FR setup and more specifically, FMR, like an MX-5. Which means balance and handling should be amazing.

[Random_Stranger]

^ From what I've read (don't know if this will make it into production), they're stuffing a 170-HP flat-four into it. But power doesn't matter...what does matter is that it's an FR setup and more specifically, FMR, like an MX-5. Which means balance and handling should be amazing.

No Power matters... That's why the MR-S = Garbage stock vs just buying a Celica GT-S.... In this age where you got cheap ass camaros coming out with a lot of HP, Nissan still putting out high HP power cars, AWD Mitsu's and Subies... You need power. Screw the handling.

And I am going to apologize ahead of time if I say anything dumb... I had a really really bad day at work that is going to continue until people take the stick our their arse.... I am drunk...

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Apr 9, 2010 - 10:50 PM

[SwissFerdi]

No Power matters... That's why the MR-S = Garbage stock vs just buying a Celica GT-S.... In this age where you got cheap ass camaros coming out with a lot of HP, Nissan still putting out high HP power cars, AWD Mitsu's and Subies... You need power. Screw the handling.

This is subjective, but still...we all know we love our Celicas, but at the end of the day they're still understeering FWD cars no matter if a 3S is stuffed in or not. Power can be fixed (and Toyota will, with a 230 HP turbo model to be debuted later), but chassis and basic handling characteristics cannot.

[njccmd2002]

if the ft does not have more tha 200 hp, its garbage

[Random_Stranger]

if the ft does not have more tha 200 hp, its garbage

Exactly! It needs at least 250 to somewhat stay in the game of todays cars... ESPECIALLY if it is going to be turbo charged... Of not, then yeah, 200 isn't bad, but it isn't impressive either... 250 or BUST!

[HaysoosKreesto]

if the ft does not have more tha 200 hp, its garbage

I have seen a lot of reports of a lot of different numbers. some say, still 150 hp, some say 250 N/A. Mostly people are saying that if they can't top the 3s Redtop then don't bother putting it out.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100

That's a reasonable guess about what it may be.

[Tom_SS2]

apparently they changed their minds there is going to be a top spec turbo version but also sumat like a 170bhp N/A version,

the car is supposed to a lightweight so even with only 170bhp it should out perform a G6 3S-GE or even a G7 VVTL-i,

its coming in at under £20000

the styling will change slightly for safety/collision aspects,

i'm going to assume that most of the car will be plastic

[manphibian]

Yeah, we'll have to wait to see the final specs, but for me to consider buying one, it would need to be quicker than my TT, which started at 225 and is now 265.

Should be easily achievable....

[azian_advanced]

i wonder if a 2jz will fit in there

[SwissFerdi]

if the ft does not have more tha 200 hp, its garbage

Exactly! It needs at least 250 to somewhat stay in the game of todays cars... ESPECIALLY if it is going to be turbo charged... Of not, then yeah, 200 isn't bad, but it isn't impressive either... 250 or BUST!

I think what you guys might be missing is that Toyota is filling a niche by basically creating a coupe version of the MX-5, should the current rumored specifications be correct. I, for one, hope then that it won't be that powerful. The less I see on the road, the better it is for me...I'd rather not have this turn into the new tC.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Apr 10, 2010 - 12:46 PM

[CelicaST_CALI]

i wonder if a 2jz will fit in there

Im sure some rich ass mk4 driver will snag one JUST to see haha

[hatchy_gt-s]

And the AE86 needs to go... Was never a powerhouse like the MR2 SW20 was/is (even J-spec best model was better than then Supra RZ on 1/4 time stock vs stock).

Thank you!!! I hate when everybody thinks the ae-86 is the best thing EVER... there not, stock there slow because there econo boxes.

The reason they have those 3 cars is because they are the "Inspiration" for the ft-86. It's going to be another subaru...=Lame

This post has been edited by hatchy_gt-s: Apr 11, 2010 - 9:49 AM

[2celicas2love]

great wall paper! supra <3 the corolla does not fit in with that set up should of been a mr2 or a 7gc

oh yea on that FT-86 i heard as well that there will be a n/a model with about 170 hp and a turbo model with around 280, but this is just here say. whatever it is, I'm sure it will be awesome and I plan to get one vs a supra depending on how it drives.

[Random_Stranger]

I'd rather not have this turn into the new tC.

Now that is EXACTLY what we are all afraid of. I hope to God that is not what Toyota is planning, because I will submit very angry letters (seems like the only sensible American thing to do, right?)

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Apr 11, 2010 - 2:13 PM