My RA24, named Rusty, but no more rust ha hah... well hmm, Medium well or Well done? Options

[njccmd2002]

Finally found something worth restoring, not decided if ill go custom or ill restore to its original beauty.

Body is straigt, some rust spots. It runs but it needs a battery, carburator and revise the brakes.. the undercarriage is ok, not rusted.

The car is original from alabama, so is southern vehicle. The interior is trashed. I had not seen it from the inside, but i drove 300 miles with a uhaul trailer, so i was not going back empty handed.

We negotiated, i think i paid a little too much, but the price is under 800, that was his asking price..

Surprised it runs, and no major body issues... except the hood. So right now i just need to start to clean and make it drivable again

Its a classic, and i finally found it. Now i have a 77 celica, and a 97 celica... lol 20 years later.

Enjoy the pics, and take note.. Is a diamond in the rough....










This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Mar 30, 2012 - 4:29 PM

[Culpable04]

wow, nice project.

I can't wait to buy a house, then I'll be following your footsteps.

wish you the best with it, interior is rought but everything seems to be there so no hunting for door handles and such, just need some upholsery work.

I would love a fastback but a coupe is just as great, there is a guy local to me selling one for 3500, but the thing is perfect.

again, best luck and enjoy it.

[njccmd2002]

for some reason these years look better in coupe to me. some pieces are broken. but thats why god invented fiberglass.

[Culpable04]

the coupes are more iconic because they have a unique sryling as opose to fastbacks which resamble the muscle cars of that era.

crack or broken pieces are piece of cake, problem is when you are missing the piece all together.

[SwissFerdi]

That...is...AWESOME.

Good luck on the rebuild. And you don't need a good-looking interior...or body...or anything else once you drop a 2JZ in that sucker!

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jul 8, 2010 - 11:06 AM

[GriffGirl]

You've got your work cut out for you but I know you'll do right by it! Can't wait to see the progress thread when it's time!

That...is...AWESOME.

Good luck on the rebuild. And you don't need a good-looking interior...or body...or anything else once you drop a 2JZ in that sucker!

I miss your drunken late night texts. You should drunken late night FB me or something while you're over yonder.

[njccmd2002]

forgot some info

ra24, GT 2.2 lt, the top of the line 20 r engine.

BEAMS BLACKTOP ANYONE?

[cheela]

ah, the RA24, looks like mine except my body isn't as good looking as that.

I wouldn't worry too much about the interior anyways. most of them are like that and due for replacement anyways.

good luck with the project.

[njccmd2002]

ah, the RA24, looks like mine except my body isn't as good looking as that.

I wouldn't worry too much about the interior anyways. most of them are like that and due for replacement anyways.

good luck with the project.

where are you getting parts from... share...

[Lenny]

nice project. can't wait to see the end result

[Johnnyny]

figured you were going for a blacktop lol best of luck

[cheela]

ah, the RA24, looks like mine except my body isn't as good looking as that.

I wouldn't worry too much about the interior anyways. most of them are like that and due for replacement anyways.

good luck with the project.

where are you getting parts from... share...

go to 1stgencelica.com OR classic-celica.com

ebay kinda sucks. 1stgencelica has lots of support for us so go introduce urself there.

here's some pics of mine just for fun.

[richee3]

Looks like a great project! Interior is a little rough, but it's just a perfect opportunity to do literally anything you want with it. Blacktop BEAMS seems like the way to go.

[block]

NICE! i almost bought a 1st gen celica before i got my 6th gen. i've always wanted one badly and will definitely get one next year. GL and please update us on this project!!

[njccmd2002]

man parts are rare as hen teeth. i tell you. im afraid, cuz some parts are not even in existence... only junkyards, and gl finding one.

[808celica]

lol go get yourself some connects in Japan, Philippines, Thailand, etc.

My uncle can get me a full shell from the PI, but then the shipping and what not.
Great find, them dragons are rare, same color as mine too LOL

[njccmd2002]

I'm going towards modern interior. No sense in scraping tons of money for old parts that are broken. Its a shame, but unless I get lucky a center console went for 200 in ebay and it was cracked. I will try to keep it as stock as possible. I have even tought of a 6gc dashboard.

However, if I can't get it, ill fiberglass it.

The engine, ok for now. Looking into swap.

It will be transformed with toyota parts only.

[Johnnyny]

I'm going towards modern interior. No sense in scraping tons of money for old parts that are broken. Its a shame, but unless I get lucky a center console went for 200 in ebay and it was cracked. I will try to keep it as stock as possible. I have even tought of a 6gc dashboard.

However, if I can't get it, ill fiberglass it.

The engine, ok for now. Looking into swap.

It will be transformed with toyota parts only.

6th gen dash would look good in there

[easternpiro1]

nice find man!! i hear in puerto rico they make those old school celicas NASTY.

CASE IN POINT...

get what he's havin =)

i know probably hella expensive, but 2jz would be a WIN.

[richee3]

I have a spare 6th gen dash.

[JuMPiiN]

That launch was retarded. I'd be scared to drive that. Nice project tho ! GL I'll be watching closely to see how this goes.

[richee3]

I have a spare 6th gen dash.

I should add, it needs a PS airbag, but it has the cover. Dash harness is cut in a few places. Free for the taking. I have the entire dash with the exception of the radio and shift bezel.

[njccmd2002]

wow ill i can say this guy amazed me...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/mick.htm

and this is something that amazes me and inspires.

http://thorracinguk.wordpress.com/category.../project-fa-st/

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jul 23, 2010 - 2:15 PM

[96stgreendemon]

My friend has a 1st gen, 77 notchback and he has done some research and the motor rear end and all that from an ae86 basically bolt right up, look into it

[Johnnyny]

celica ireland person did this

http://www.classic-celica.com/nuke/modules...&highlight=

http://tecclubinfo.proboards.com/index.cgi...=471&page=2

[njccmd2002]

not really progress but some goodies i have scored.

found two celica books, may scrap one to scan into pdf.

and also some old school rims...

found some hood hinges and a rear smiley....





This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Aug 7, 2011 - 9:54 PM

[Culpable04]

there is a yard near by that has a lot of cars, I got a few old school emblems from them before, next time I go I'll check if they still have some of the 1st gen celicas, usually chassis / metal parts are useless as they are expose to the elements, but interior / plastic parts most of the time are in good shape, if I see anything that can be usefull, I'll snap pictures and share them in case you are interested.

prices are really cheap, I have never paid more than 30 bucks for parts from there.

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Jul 30, 2010 - 7:15 PM

[Joe_1985]

if u want a cheap wheel upgrade the 82-86 celica supra and 82-85 celica gts have a 14x7 wheel stock that looks good on the older celicas

for cheap added power u can go with a 22r bottom end (81-84 22r) and your 20r head will gain you some power.

theres a site called engine builder that makes performace parts for the r series. or look up epn 22r on google

also lcengineering but they are expensive but has everything under the sun

beams swap, pffft you can shoehorn a jz series engine or a 7m in there if you would like, also a 1uzfe fits as well

22rte would work too but wouldnt have as much poteintal but would still yeild around 265hp with some money thrown at it

a v6 radiator out of a 2nd gen 4runner or truck (89-95 v6) is a cheap upgrade from what i read.

i could rattle on but i gotta head to work, nice find. i want a 1st gen coupe so bad.

as far as interior, my buddy used some kind of board and that black automotive carpet u get at walmart in his 77 liftback and it turned out nice. Look up ANDY on celicatech.com and look in the projects fourm to see his build

This post has been edited by Joe_1985: Jul 30, 2010 - 8:18 PM

[Bigblock]

The pic with the wheels--

The stripes & logos-- was that optional or did each get painted body color for each car??
Black car gets black stripe & logo,...yellow for yellow cars,etc?

[njccmd2002]

The pic with the wheels--

The stripes & logos-- was that optional or did each get painted body color for each car??
Black car gets black stripe & logo,...yellow for yellow cars,etc?

i have no idea, those are 14 , they were in a junkyard, a guy on ebay sold them.. i wish i have more info on them...

if u want a cheap wheel upgrade the 82-86 celica supra and 82-85 celica gts have a 14x7 wheel stock that looks good on the older celicas

for cheap added power u can go with a 22r bottom end (81-84 22r) and your 20r head will gain you some power.

all the info you can give me is well appreciated. That engine was out of a corona and is a 22r.

prices are really cheap, I have never paid more than 30 bucks for parts from there.

whatever you can help. please do!

[cheela]

nice! looks like a win on everything~!

I am thinking about getting a 22r and doing the 20r/22r hybrid build for now. Wishing for a 1jz or somthing but maybe later

[presure2]

this thread is absolutly FULL of win.
sweet whip, noberto, cant wait to see the progress as you make it.
theres a guy locally that has a 77 i want SOOOOO badly.
just cant afford it at the moment.

im suprized celicazr hasnt posted here yet, he's got a few diffrent classics, that are all CLEAN!

[easternpiro1]

who will be doing the restoring of the engine? do u have any specific plans for power?






and btw... that black celi with the sunglasses looks absolutely disrespectful.... i can only think of black leather jackets, hair gel sunglasses and badassery....
/rant this thread is going to be legendary

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Jul 31, 2010 - 1:28 PM

[njccmd2002]

all is going to be done by me as much as i can, im contemplating a blacktop beams

Time to start the Project updates.

This is what i start with, Normal rust in tipical areas.

Yeah, i was wrong


Drivers seat, What!! its in the trash, i just kept the rails :

Took out the carpet and wanted to inspect the floorboards, and they are lovely :2thumbs: , almost no rust. Just need to take all the crud out.


Prefitted a rear smiley, its crooked, i think there was slight damage in the panel. so I will have to redrill anyways to lift it a couple of mm's :ohyeah:


now the ugly parts so far

the usual battery tray and the location all rusted through.

a busted hood hinge, but i have sourced a good pair

I have started to take the front apart, to check for rust. There is some of it all over but i dont think its bad.. :nonono:


This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Aug 7, 2011 - 9:55 PM

[cheela]

ouch!!! that totally sucks. Yeah,I got that suprise too with mine. My battery area wasn't as bad as urs though. and my spare tire well was allright. it's my floor pan that sucks. looks like ur the opposite of me. Good luck!

[njccmd2002]

That launch was retarded. I'd be scared to drive that. Nice project tho ! GL I'll be watching closely to see how this goes.

i just won this from ebay

[njccmd2002]

well............. update..

decided to toss a whole buch of parts......



This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Aug 7, 2011 - 9:56 PM

[cheela]

hey let me know what parts you won't be using.

[njccmd2002]

hey let me know what parts you won't be using.

ull be the first one to know.

[mkernz22]

I'm not sure if the 77 is the same as the 73, but if it is, then this could help you:
http://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/2118925450.html

[njccmd2002]

that rear smiley might fit later cars, but i already have it, wonder if it has the brackets, cheela needed themm

[96stgreendemon]

Im still trying to locate a front smiley bumper for a friend, any ideas? had a guy in NZ that had a ton, but he died and his son raise the prices 100%

[njccmd2002]

Im still trying to locate a front smiley bumper for a friend, any ideas? had a guy in NZ that had a ton, but he died and his son raise the prices 100%

i know of a full set. pm me for details

[presure2]

hey 'berto, slightly off topic, but i been reading up on welders, and came accross this welding forum..some of the guys are brutal on noobs, but the tips and tricks you can get just lurking are awesome. been just reading thru the project forum the past couple days, and got some amazing ideas.
www.weldingweb.com
also, learned TONS of great stuff from this site as well:
www.weldingtipsandtricks.com
great videos of actual welding techniques that work. improved my welding 100% in a matter of a couple days just watching his vids, reading the info, and practicing.

looking forward to more progress!

[DEATH]

I used to ride to elementry school everyday in one of those!!! [Explains my love for Celicas] Ours was a white '77 HB tho. The interiors were just like that man - ours was trashed by the early 80's - and my Mom is almost as anal about her cars as I am.
Just FYI from someone who has owned a '81 GT - the 22r sux much anus. I hate that motor more than I hate USDM 6GC engines
Get something with more power IMO.
Cool project and best of luck on it.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jan 3, 2011 - 8:33 PM

[njccmd2002]

Thanks guys... I may have a surprise/

[cheela]

ooh... will wait to see.

[mkernz22]

this popped up on ebay, thought it might help you out since it seems very similar
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Celi...5fCarsQ5fTrucks

[dabazied]

If you need any specific parts there is one of these in a local junkyard by me(in NC) that isn't too bad off. Just let me know if you want me to hunt for anything.... Good luck on her, I bet she'll be beautiful.

[njccmd2002]

No more updates on this car at least in 1 year i believe... sorry, other things come first....

Car will be stored... YES... But it will come back as kickass...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Aug 7, 2011 - 9:56 PM

[njccmd2002]

Well hell no!!!!

Rusty is my main progress now, surprise surprise...

some progress for now...



going to the recycle bin



a couple of days ago..



any clues as to where this goes...



yes goes here...



better yet



i am and will paint the engine bay very soon!!!

yes i have the donor battery area..



I banged the floorboards.....



need to make a hard choice...




Yes this one is not getting a beams...

Going old school...



Recognize?

Went ahead and started on this one, since I will possibly scrap one... yes, so sad but i have to.....

Anyways, im going full throttle.....

[jimmykay]

oh that looks like so much fun.

I would definitely take the wheel on the right.

[Keiri]

Saw this last weekend and thought of you 'Berto.

Some inspiration:

[epocsirhc]

The wheel on the right appears to be a fake nardi, and the left looks like a tom'? So go left.

[njccmd2002]

its actually a Carrot top, and its real wood. Very old school

[HectortheRican]

its actually a Carrot top, and its real wood. Very old school

I'd go with the wooden one. Nothing screams more old school than a wooden steering wheel and a clean set of Watanabes.

[njccmd2002]

Thanks hector, i was thinking that too, this one will be made to being as close as the 80's as possible.

As far as rims go, either



or supras



only mods to be made will be

jdm smileys,

18rg with mikuni solex carbs

Carrot Top steering wheel

rear sway bar

and this, do you guys know how hard is to find one of these!!!

[cheela]

go with the supras, that's what I have on mine right now. looks hella good!

[HectortheRican]

Yeah, the Supra wheels are quite quite nice.

[njccmd2002]

remember me?

well with this...



now this...



just need painting

[cheela]

looks good bro

[CelicaZR]

Good to see another 1GC getting restored
Looking great and good luck with the rest of the build.

[njccmd2002]

getting better at welding now




new toy to play with, makes life easier .... got it from Tractor Supply



and serious rust protection... EPOXY PRIMER 80 BUCKS A QUART



Will need to continue with the bay itself....

after that, ill tackle the ass

[cheela]

wow. didn't realize the rear was rusted out as well. was it that bad? I don't remember seeing pics of the rear rust.

[njccmd2002]

im doing full resto, it could have been sanblasted, but the surface was so badly pitted. Im having nightmares, because i have two ways of approaching this.

the hardest way will be to get this... which i have...



means getting the car to this....



then after that flip it and undercoat it



i want this car perfect, and only I can do it and know whats done to it.

[njccmd2002]

medium rare or well done?



more info here...

http://www.classic-celica.com/modules.php?...amp;p=5968#5968

or here

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopic.php?...=114255#p114255

[mak5603]

Wow, that is one crazy setup. Id be so scared to try that, haha!

Amazing access to clean up the bottom and do any custom fabbing you plan on doing.

[cheela]

medium rare or well done?



more info here...

http://www.classic-celica.com/modules.php?...amp;p=5968#5968

or here

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopic.php?...=114255#p114255

I'd like mine well done or done well please.

[njccmd2002]

dude, for a minute i freaked out when i flipped it, definetely wont do it again this way. will get a real rotisserie, but for now. it is working.

[cheela]

scary!!! be safe man. even though an RA sandwich sounds good, it ain't tasty.

[presure2]

awesome work, berto!
learning is fun, isnt it?!!?!?!

[njccmd2002]

awesome work, berto!
learning is fun, isnt it?!!?!?!

hell yeah, Im using a needle scaler, that just takes the gunk out quick...

[MidnightCelica20...]

This will be epic when its done.

[njccmd2002]

more progress here

http://www.classic-celica.com/modules.php?...p;p=15623#15623

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopic.php?...16&start=75

[njccmd2002]

more info here

http://www.classic-celica.com/modules.php?...p;p=24251#24251

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopic.php?...=140277#p140277

teaser

[Box]

All the colours in the world and you chose white, of course you would.

[njccmd2002]

updates..

log in version

http://www.1stgencelica.com/viewtopic.php?...6&start=105

no login version

http://www.classic-celica.com/modules.php?...p;p=26897#26897

the real reason i neglect my 6gc so much, and not interested in modding the ZN6

what can i say...

3 years in the making...

[JoshuaM]

Wow, I knew you were working on a first gen, but that's just amazing.... great work!

[njccmd2002]

ill paste this for box, so that he does not go thread digging...

[Box]

Looks to be coming along nicely. After three years the real fun will be remembering how to put it all back together.

[CelicaZR]

Good work on the resto

[SwissFerdi]

Norberto, I read the entirety of the classiccelica thread - thorough work and a captivating example of metal restoration.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Oct 28, 2013 - 12:31 PM

[njccmd2002]

Thanks I have learned a lot about rust and welding. Next stop is carbureted engines, muahhhh hahaha. 4banger......

[Box]

^Can't help but notice half of the engine that should be going in is missing.

[njccmd2002]

That is th engine, everything else is crap.

[kurt95gt]

Nice work so far.

Working on carbs isn't too bad.
Just gotta take your time to find the sweet spot

^Can't help but notice half of the engine that should be going in is missing.

I was thinking the same thing
1uz an supra 6speed FTW lol

[njccmd2002]

To restore a car and be period correct means either 2tg or. 18rg. A supra engine does not belong there. I'm a purist when it comes to the engine in this car in particular.

Not bashing the supra engine. Just want do do a good resto and not a hack job. The car does not deserve it....

[cheela]

agree with you there. the way you're doing it, it's going to be museum quality.

[Box]

He never said anything about the Supra engine, he said to use the 1UZ. I get the whole originality thing, and I wouldn't mind having one original. You're doing a good job and doing right by the car. If I ever find the liftback version I'll resto-mod it and we can do a meet.

This post has been edited by Box: Oct 29, 2013 - 9:30 PM

[kurt95gt]

To restore a car and be period correct means either 2tg or. 18rg. A supra engine does not belong there. I'm a purist when it comes to the engine in this car in particular.

Not bashing the supra engine. Just want do do a good resto and not a hack job. The car does not deserve it....

I'm not saying anything bad about sticking with the stock motor.
I fully understand your going for a full factory resto
Just had to throw out the v8 lol. I'd love to build one with a 1uz v8 an a supra 6speed that would be an awesome old school muscle car

[njccmd2002]

To restore a car and be period correct means either 2tg or. 18rg. A supra engine does not belong there. I'm a purist when it comes to the engine in this car in particular.

Not bashing the supra engine. Just want do do a good resto and not a hack job. The car does not deserve it....

I'm not saying anything bad about sticking with the stock motor.
I fully understand your going for a full factory resto
Just had to throw out the v8 lol. I'd love to build one with a 1uz v8 an a supra 6speed that would be an awesome old school muscle car

yeah i know, believe me, i threw in lots of ideas, with it, v8, beams and 2rz. Reality the supra thingy was never an option... too overrated, the 18rg was a gift from heaven, right time and right place. Unfortunately not cheap. engine alone was 1500, does not include the flywheel and exhaust i need thats another 1000. and i dont even know if it works, which sucks.

And a full factory resto will include the 20r, but i want it JDM spec, as always , the 20r, actually i had 2 good running engines, they were melted to make frying pots, lol...

Worst case scenario, 18 rg fails, will do the 2rz, just enough horsepower to move the shell. more than 175 hp, will have to add more components, and fuel lines, and brakes, and upgrade suspension, and the list goes on crazy and dont want to go there...

want it to move, and see the faces of 18y/o honda kids when they see dual carburated engine, and ask where is the fuel injector.....

[Box]

Well, the 18R-G changes everything. As usual we never received the good engines.

[njccmd2002]

well, ive been thinking these 2 days, i may just put a 2tg in there and put the 18rg in another car i have, and still be period correct. reason being i may rid of the corolla i bought, and 2 more cars....

[Box]

You know you want the 18R-G in the Celica.

[njccmd2002]

I don't know... The mark ii wants the 18rg. And the celica will find the 2tg pleasurable

[Box]

Hmm, I got it. Just find another 18R-G, then both have one.

This post has been edited by Box: Nov 1, 2013 - 8:28 PM

[njccmd2002]

Lol, I wish... But I already have the 2tg... I don't want 3