Swap harness question, 7afe to 4age Options

[96stgreendemon]

So im still a little confused on what all is involved when swapping the wiring from the 7a to the 4age.
The wiring harness has to be extended and some parts of the 7a tied into it correct?
Just confused on what all is involved in the task, if someone could clear this up for me it would be greatly appreciated

[richee3]

The wiring harness doesn't necessarily have to be extended. You can cut a new hole in the firewall to run the harness through to the ECU. Check out Batman722's swap thread for a reference of where to cut the hole at.

[96stgreendemon]

Ok let me get this, so does the ecu just connect to stock pin outs for the interior then the same way as the 7a ecu does?

[PhoenixTech]

So im still a little confused on what all is involved when swapping the wiring from the 7a to the 4age.
The wiring harness has to be extended and some parts of the 7a tied into it correct?
Just confused on what all is involved in the task, if someone could clear this up for me it would be greatly appreciated

Are you swapping in a 20v? If so, send your harness to Tweak'd Performance for a plug and play conversion. e-mail me. contact@tweakdperformance.com

[96stgreendemon]

Yeah its going to be a 20v swap, you have mail

[95CelicaST]

As I stated in another thread, mr220v on mr2oc and mr2.com will do a PnP harness as well for a couple hundred less than dr. tweak wants.

He can be reached at : mr220v@gmail.com

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Jan 21, 2011 - 4:13 PM

[PhoenixTech]

Yeah its going to be a 20v swap, you have mail

You have a reply

[richee3]

Definitely swapping a 20V in, Kyle?

[96stgreendemon]

Its looking that way, still looking between a silvertop and blacktop, more towards the blacktop though, i dont plan to boost it so its the better option.
I went this way because im not really looking for a 260 hp fwd car, this will be a nice 160 ish with lsd which is all i really need and its a little more budget friendly

[richee3]

Awesome! I've been trying to convince people to swap lately. I kinda wish my project car was an ST so I could do a 4A swap.

[96stgreendemon]

Yeah, and it just seems like there are not enough 20 valve swaps on here, and i believe that i will be the first documented blacktop swap on the site

This post has been edited by 96stgreendemon: Jan 22, 2011 - 5:04 PM

[SupraKid]

Youll be the first DOCUMENTED swap, if you do do it.

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/1995-st-coupe-8975
http://www.6gc.net/celicas/1994-st-coupe-6030

Im gonna have to fully rebuild my 7a this summer, and if the cost isnt much more i may throw in a 4age instead.

[96stgreendemon]

Eh i was looking at a rebuild on the 7a, but by the time i priced everything i was almost to the same price as it would be to swap, and a few more ponies wouldnt be so bad lol

[95CelicaST]

160ish from a Blacktop?

Try 135whp. For real.

[richee3]

^^ Which is what the 5S gets to the crank. Not a bad improvement from the 7A at all.

I couldn't agree with you more, Kyle. There are only a handful of 20V swaps that I know of on the site, and I believe only one member actually still posts. And the Blacktop swap would be loads of fun. Plus you can pick up the 20V pretty cheap compared to the 3S-GTE/BEAMS. It's not a bad swap at all. Some people complain about the lack of torque, but it's still a major upgrade from the 7A.

[lagos]

^^ Which is what the 5S gets to the crank. Not a bad improvement from the 7A at all.

Your talking about a 10-20 wheel hp difference over a 5sfe. Is that honestly worth all the work and money that it takes to swap a car?

[95CelicaST]

The 20v is a cool swap for a show car, but in reality the Celica is just too heavy for that motor.

[96stgreendemon]

Yes i know that its not a big improvement, but im not looking for alot of power, my engine is on its way out and the swap can be done for not too much money, i have looked into the 3sgte and for me at the time its too much money. Besides i dont really plan on driving fast, i rarely do, my car is built for backroads, and the big perk of the blacktop it the weight of it and the one i have been looking at has an lsd tranny, which is what im looking for most, it may not be what everyone thinks is the best swap for the car but it's something different

[richee3]

Your talking about a 10-20 wheel hp difference over a 5sfe. Is that honestly worth all the work and money that it takes to swap a car?

I forget the exact hp of the 7A, but wouldn't the 20V be something like a 40 whp improvement over the 7A?

[95CelicaST]

Figure about 40whp, but the torque curve isn't the same. It feels/is slower because you don't get peak torque until somewhere in the 6k rpm range.