Thpughts on a sticker Options

[Cragspider]

OK I remebered somebody saying that we need a sticker for the site that we can put on our cars. Well I have an Idea. Ok it would be an outline of our cars with 6GC.net inside it. I know that I have seen an outline of our cars some where on the internet. So if anybody has one or knows where to get it let me know and I will see about making one to show everybody. But for now you all will just have to use your imaginations. On the size of it, it would be as long as the Celica.net sticker so that we could put it over it or next to it.
Bryan

[1_Winged_Angel]

How big was the celica.net sticker?

[Coomer]

What angle was the car at when the outline was made? I could probably make an outline pretty easily, and then put some sort of 6GC logo inside of it.

[doGGy]

Outline like this?

[Cragspider]

OK sorry I ment a side profile of the car so that it could be made into the outline of the car with 6gc.net in the center. Coomer if you can make it I would be greatly apreciated.
Brayn

[Zoom]

Something like that might be hot, maybe just at a little less of a back angle. That way the sticker still isn't taking up a lot of room like that would. And a little sharper than picture, it's definitely lacking.

[Coomer]

If someone can post a good photo of a side profile of a hatchback, I'll see what I can do.

[doGGy]

Here is a side profile of a hatchback.

[macavely]

Ok i think a sticker would be great. but how much would they be$$$$? and how many styles would there be?

[Mizuryu]

from what i heard i came up with something kinna quick...it's kinna rough so don't be too hard on me...

it also posts kinna small here so anyone who's really interested in seein' it i'll try some other way of gettin' it to ya

[doGGy]

Here goes anotherone:

[Cragspider]

Doggy that what I had in mind. Maybe put the stock spoiler on it and I could see what could be made from it. It would just be the outline of the car with 6GC.net in the center of it. So really what it would be is just the outline of the car with the name in the center just like the Celica.net sticker.
Bryan

[macavely]

how about this?

[Cragspider]

heres my Idea. All I need to do is put a spoiler on it. John's gona play with it some and see what he can make. But Im tryign to keep it simple so that the costs wont be that much. Let me know what you think.
Bryan

[doGGy]

Ok, here comes examples of 6GC.net sticker...If anyone of them is all-rigt let me know.

[celicaBEst]

doGGy...

those are pretty sweet. best i've seen yet!

EDIT: i was just got a sweet idea from doGGy's signature... what if we used his 6G celica logo for a sticker? that'd be pretty sweet i think...it'd be really easy to add a ".net" in there. what do u guys think?



doggy, do u think you could just post that part of your sig up on the board and maybe take out the celica and add a "C.net" after the G? let me know..

AIM-beverett04 or just PM me....

-Brian

[Cragspider]

accutially, I like that idea. Its not to flashy and its very nice. Doggy you need to post that part of your sig so we could work with it and check on getting it made.
Bryan

[celicaBEst]

alright...here's what i threw together after looking at doggy's sig.



or...



let me know your guys' thoughts...just thought it was simple and good looking

-Brian

[Zoom]

I really like that first one man, even if we didn't have hte car in the sticker it would still look sweet.

[celicaBEst]

which one are you talking about exactly? be a little more specific

[Coomer]

QUOTE (celicaBEst @ Dec 8 2002, 08:02 PM)

I'm really liking that one. I've been so busy lately with clients and stuff that I haven't had the time to work on a sticker design, but I really like that logo. Good work!

[doGGy]

Ok, i made some examples of 6gc.net from my sign. I hope one of them will be ok.

And below i made an exampe of how it will look on 6g celi. Enjoy.

[yel094]

Hey DoGGy I think your designs look really great... But just one suggestion.

If you are only going to produce one final design you will have to think about putting borders around the text. Like if you are using red and black as your two main colours then think about what it will look like on a red or black ride. Cos you might end up with just 6G.

I think No.1 looks great. But you would have to border the 6 with white and the C with black/white and white around the .net so you can stick it on any ride. Make sense??

The concept is great. I would throw No.1 on my ride as is, wouldn't give me any probs with my paint colour

Great work guys.

[doGGy]

For example: 6 is bordered in white, G can be bordered in black or white, and C.net (red in 1 examp) can be bordered in white to. And i think it will look good on black or red or yellow paint.

[celicaBEst]

starting to look really good guys....i'm thinkg we should think of some to put into a poll and everyone can vote on the one or two they would want in a sticker, b.c i know everyone isn't going to decide on just one...

-Brian

[x_itchy_b_x]

[yel094]

Good DoGGy!!

Thats exactly what I was getting at. Looks Great!
Now it will be suited to every ride no matter whether they be light or dark coloured.

Keep em comming. I was playing around the other day also but I'll be buggered if I can figure out how to post pics in the forum... Not as smart as I thought I was

[SiKBOY]

Itchy B's sticker has my vote!. except I would take out the carbon fiber look in the background and just have the lettering with the red stripe going through it.

[boosted_K2]

doggy's are tight as hell!! im not big on stickers though, i would get something small and put it somewhere on the dash in my interior, but i wanna keep as much off the exterior as possable...

[ghostdog]

figured it was about time I got into this... so here are my ideas



tell me what you think, and I can change them accordingly

[Mynzeyes]

ok check it...just like w/ the celica.net sticker, the logo IMO should match the set up on the webpage...so..pardon my wretched photochopping, but i just now through this toghter in a couple minutes...same font as the one on the home page, and i think it's nice and simple...yet, not just times new roman text......


that'd be my sticker of choice...
-John-

[SaintMichaelCeli...]

I think all your ideas are great but i think they are too big, i dont really want all of that vinal on my car THAT much, a window decal would do much better for me, but to each his own. All your ideas are great, just stateing my opinion.

[celicaBEst]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Dec 10 2002, 08:59 PM)

figured it was about time I got into this... so here are my ideas tell me what you think, and I can change them accordingly

i like those alot, esp. the middle one ....what do u guys think?

[x_itchy_b_x]

or how about these? im open to advice.

*the gray box is not the in the sticker it represents ur rear small window.

[SiKBOY]

yeh I'm not fond of big **** off stickers either.
Itch B or anyone else thats designing stickers:

I think that you will have to have the stickers made it 2 opposite colours. Like Black and white or Blue and Red, in order to accomodate everyone's car. I don't think that Black Celica owners would want to put a black sticker on their car and vice versa but I guess thats further on down the track when 6gc.net actually decides on which one we want.

Does anyone have the actual dimensions of their sticker ideas?

[Coomer]

Here's a couple ideas I had:



Lemme know what you think.

[doGGy]

QUOTE (Coomer @ Dec 11 2002, 11:44 PM)

Here's a couple ideas I had: Lemme know what you think.

3. This one looks best of all.

P.S. Coomer, what font you use for the stickers and for the 6gc logo???

[NEVERSTOP]

what would you guys think of a graff sticker??? used to do alot of paintin when I was a little younger and still got the talent for it... if you want I could make a couple up and try and post them but I have the worst time trying to get photos to go up in the posts.... newayz I know a guy who could make them for pretty cheap as long as they weren't too big and had alot of color but I would only be interested in a single color sticker newayz.... let me know what you guys think

[gregsju29]

i'm definetly interested in getting a sticker,,,let's get it done soon! my opinion is just to stay away form too many differnt colors....1, or 2 colors at most, is the way to go. peace

[NEVERSTOP]

will someone PLEASE tell me how to post a photo! I don't know much about this hightech typwriter.... I got a really good design that I drew up today and I want to show you guys but can't

[macavely]

First thing you need a web pic hosting site. upload the pics onto that site. once you do that right click the picture and copy the URL. then when your posting here click the IMG botton and Paste, and thats all you have to do.

http://www.picturetrail.com/
try this site real good and free

[NEVERSTOP]

okay let see if this works...

[NEVERSTOP]

**** it! just go to my profile.... it will be there

last photo

or try here

[ghostdog]

neverstop, nice work man, looks good

unfortunatly thats not the name of the board
try one that says "6GC.NET"

[x_itchy_b_x]

i like it. oh man srry i wasnt any help at all i tryed.

[NEVERSTOP]

QUOTE

unfortunatly thats not the name of the board

I was under the impression that 6gc.net stood for sixthgencelica.net..... maybe I'm wrong......don't know what 6gc.net would me then...

as for 6gc.net version it looked stupid... sorry but it did, this version is alot better lookin.

also besides neone that knows about Celica's and this board isn't gonna have a clue what 6gc.net stands for... at least this way they can figure it out.
and if you type in sixth gen celica net into a search engine... guess what comes up?

I personally like it alot better than ne of the other styles but thats just my opinion and its not cuz I made it just cuz it actually has a little style to it.

[ghostdog]

sorry dude, I didn't mean to come off harsh like that

I just figured the whole point of the sticker was for people to check out this site right? so if they plug in sixthgencelica.net it won't take them anywhere. maybe we could register that domain and redirect it here, cuz I agree with you 6GC.NET in graff would look weak.

[NEVERSTOP]

read up about entering sixth gen celica net I just edited it

QUOTE

sorry dude, I didn't mean to come off harsh like that

I was beening sarcastic

[Coomer]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Dec 17 2002, 09:16 PM)

sorry dude, I didn't mean to come off harsh like that I just figured the whole point of the sticker was for people to check out this site right? so if they plug in sixthgencelica.net it won't take them anywhere. maybe we could register that domain and redirect it here, cuz I agree with you 6GC.NET in graff would look weak.

I agree with the fact that that sticker looks sweet, but registering another domain and pointing it here would actually hurt the site's traffic, because of the way that Google and many other search engines work. It would reduce this site's pagerank, pointing less people to 6G Celicas and hindering the amount of people finding this site and registering and helping out. That would be a sweet sticker though.

[NEVERSTOP]

QUOTE

I agree with the fact that that sticker looks sweet, but registering another domain and pointing it here would actually hurt the site's traffic, because of the way that Google and many other search engines work. It would reduce this site's pagerank, pointing less people to 6G Celicas and hindering the amount of people finding this site and registering and helping out. That would be a sweet sticker though.  I agree with the fact that that sticker looks sweet, but registering another domain and pointing it here would actually hurt the site's traffic, because of the way that Google and many other search engines work. It would reduce this site's pagerank, pointing less people to 6G Celicas and hindering the amount of people finding this site and registering and helping out. That would be a sweet sticker though.  I agree with the fact that that sticker looks sweet, but registering another domain and pointing it here would actually hurt the site's traffic, because of the way that Google and many other search engines work. It would reduce this site's pagerank, pointing less people to 6G Celicas and hindering the amount of people finding this site and registering and helping out. That would be a sweet sticker though.

most people would think to use a seach engine onec the sixthgencelica.net didn't work... I do agree with you though about using another domain would hurt this site.....just food for thought


btw... thanks for posting that ghost dog... I really had problems with trying to get that to go up

[ghostdog]

might as well have a sticker that just says "Sixth Gen Celica" instead of using a non-existent domain. and maybe Coomer could put those keywords in the meta-tags incase someone actually goes through the trouble of searching for it.

[NEVERSTOP]

QUOTE

might as well have a sticker that just says "Sixth Gen Celica" instead of using a non-existent domain. and maybe Coomer could put those keywords in the meta-tags incase someone actually goes through the trouble of searching for it.

That would be cool but the only prob with it is that it kinda defeats the purpose of a site sticker...... we'll figure something out

[kuya1284]

QUOTE (Coomer @ Dec 17 2002, 09:26 PM)

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Dec 17 2002, 09:16 PM) sorry dude, I didn't mean to come off harsh like that I just figured the whole point of the sticker was for people to check out this site right? so if they plug in sixthgencelica.net it won't take them anywhere. maybe we could register that domain and redirect it here, cuz I agree with you 6GC.NET in graff would look weak. I agree with the fact that that sticker looks sweet, but registering another domain and pointing it here would actually hurt the site's traffic, because of the way that Google and many other search engines work. It would reduce this site's pagerank, pointing less people to 6G Celicas and hindering the amount of people finding this site and registering and helping out. That would be a sweet sticker though.

Actually, registering another domain will not reduce traffic. As a matter of fact, it might be even better having more options for people to hit this site instead of 6gc.net. If you're really serious about this site, then I would recommend registering more domains that point to this. Search engines don't care about the domain name. Search engines will *spider* a site looking for keywords to index. This is why it's important to have meta tags, meta descriptions, etc. Search engine indexes are primarily based off of META words.

If you really want to increase traffic, I would also recommend registering 6gc.com. Most people will use "com" instead of "net". Other domains that you can register are

6thgencelica.com/net
sixthgencelica.com/net
sixgencelica.com/net

(These are all unregistered by the way. I just did a *whois* on all 6 as well as 6gc.com)

Don't spread yourself too thin. It really wouldn't hurt to register more domains and simply have them *redirect* or *point* to 6gc.net. This will give people more ways of finding the site. Since domains are cheap to register nowadays ($8 at godaddy.com), maybe you can start taking donations to help register the other domains. That's only $48 to register 6 domains. You web hosting company may also charge a small fee to alias the domains to 6gc.net, but if you don't want to pay for that, I'm sure the registrar will allow you to redirect the domains to 6gc.net (15 dollar domains allows this).

One last thing, if you want to improve placement, the only real way of doing that, as opposed to waiting months to be reindexed to the top, is to pay. I know that most people don't want to pay $50+ just to be placed at the top, but it's the most reliable way of getting there.

Hope this helps.

-Ray

[kuya1284]

BTW, I forgot to post my concepts. I was having a hard time because I usually design text that's to be displayed on websites and hard documents. Designing text for stickers is rather difficult because of various limitations. For example, vinyl stickers can't be printed with a gradient or a glowing fade in the background, unless we're talking about bumper-style stickers.

Anyway, sorry for the rushed jobs. I promised Brian (CelicaBest) that I would try to come up with something if I had time. Well I didn't really have much time, which I why I sorta rushed these. If you don't like them, oh well. What I wanted to primarily do was create something that will help the other designers come up with something *better*. I saw some really nice work. Keep up the good job guys.

Maybe if I have some more time, I can actually sit down and take some time to come up with something.

-Ray

[Coomer]

QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Dec 17 2002, 11:02 PM)

QUOTE (Coomer @ Dec 17 2002, 09:26 PM) QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Dec 17 2002, 09:16 PM) sorry dude, I didn't mean to come off harsh like that I just figured the whole point of the sticker was for people to check out this site right? so if they plug in sixthgencelica.net it won't take them anywhere. maybe we could register that domain and redirect it here, cuz I agree with you 6GC.NET in graff would look weak. I agree with the fact that that sticker looks sweet, but registering another domain and pointing it here would actually hurt the site's traffic, because of the way that Google and many other search engines work. It would reduce this site's pagerank, pointing less people to 6G Celicas and hindering the amount of people finding this site and registering and helping out. That would be a sweet sticker though. Actually, registering another domain will not reduce traffic. As a matter of fact, it might be even better having more options for people to hit this site instead of 6gc.net. If you're really serious about this site, then I would recommend registering more domains that point to this. Search engines don't care about the domain name. Search engines will *spider* a site looking for keywords to index. This is why it's important to have meta tags, meta descriptions, etc. Search engine indexes are primarily based off of META words. If you really want to increase traffic, I would also recommend registering 6gc.com. Most people will use "com" instead of "net". Other domains that you can register are 6thgencelica.com/net sixthgencelica.com/net sixgencelica.com/net (These are all unregistered by the way. I just did a *whois* on all 6 as well as 6gc.com) Don't spread yourself too thin. It really wouldn't hurt to register more domains and simply have them *redirect* or *point* to 6gc.net. This will give people more ways of finding the site. Since domains are cheap to register nowadays ($8 at godaddy.com), maybe you can start taking donations to help register the other domains. That's only $48 to register 6 domains. You web hosting company may also charge a small fee to alias the domains to 6gc.net, but if you don't want to pay for that, I'm sure the registrar will allow you to redirect the domains to 6gc.net (15 dollar domains allows this). One last thing, if you want to improve placement, the only real way of doing that, as opposed to waiting months to be reindexed to the top, is to pay. I know that most people don't want to pay $50+ just to be placed at the top, but it's the most reliable way of getting there. Hope this helps. -Ray

Actually, I've heard contrary to what you're saying from many people, mainly on SitePointForums.com and AListApart.com and a couple other development sites.

If you're familiar with Google's pagerank method, you know that it takes into account the number of links pointing to your website. With one url, I know that all links to my website are going to point to that given url. If I had two urls, then half might point to one url while the other half might point to the other url, meaning that Google would only see half the number of links pointing to my site than there actually are. This would decrease pagerank, which means my page would be less likely to come up when people do searches on Google, or any other companies that use Google's engine, such as Yahoo. I know Google's engine isn't based purely on the number of links to your site, but it's one of the leading factors in determining pagerank.

That's the primary reason why I haven't already registered more domains. I know my host wouldn't charge a thing to point more domains to the site(I love my hosting right now - Globalcon), and domains are really cheap, but I believe that it would actually decrease traffic or at least not bring in as many new visitors.

If you can find some literature or articles to back up your ideas, please send them my way and I'll read them and maybe re-decide my position on having multiple domains for the same site.

Here's a couple threads about this:
http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread....21&referrerid=0
http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread....60&referrerid=0

Edit: By the way, welcome to the 6G Celicas forums! I really like your first idea for a sticker, and I came across the same problems that you did, because I'm used to designing all of my graphics for the web as well.

[NEVERSTOP]

damn that was a book!

[ghostdog]

Coomer, no offense man but I don't think links are doing anything to your page rank right now. I pulled the link: command on Google and no matches at all. Maybe if the 6th Gen Celica segment was more competitive, but honestly I think you are about the only game in town at this point.

[macavely]

Yea Coomer the day that i found this site i was going to start a page called Celicagen6.com then i found the link for this site. but back to the sticker why not take ten sticker ideas and vote on it.

[Coomer]

QUOTE (macavely @ Dec 20 2002, 12:25 AM)

Yea Coomer the day that i found this site i was going to start a page called Celicagen6.com then i found the link for this site. but back to the sticker why not take ten sticker ideas and vote on it.

I've still got a couple more ideas that I'll hopefully work on when I get home tonight too.

[trd94cel]

i do vynal graphics on the side

[capncrakhed]

i got a question for ya coomer...i really like ghost dog's designs...there's a performance shop here in town that does custom vinyl graphics...

my question is: is there a way for me to use ghost dog's design, and have them make it for me?

do i need written consent or anything??

now
my question to ghost dog: how can i get one of your designs and take it to them to make it for me??

[snadman]

the top one in ur post celicabest...is hot! I like it and want it on the side of my car. I wish my Dad still worked at the bus company...he could print vinyl decals for free anytime fo the day he wanted. This sucks! Frickin people with high turnover rates...I tell ya...:-D

Capn: If he creates a blakc and white one with clear lines of where u cut...such as the one that was just plain black and white....that's a good idea.

When you make vinyl graphics either you have one color and it cuts them....or you put in clear vinyl through and you have a laserjet printer that colors the design and cuts out the design at the same time. The second is a lot more costly...looks cooler to many people but is much more exspensive. That's why you see the one piece decals you can buy online that are fullside cost so much...The vinyl costs around 80 dollars for a 50 foot roll and the vinyl machine itself costs at least 2,000 for a quality one that isn't blurry when it prints/cuts.

One the other hand, a single colored decal isn't that abd at all. I have the toyotacelicas.com decal on my car...it is a monotone gray and looks pretty awesome. You can buy these lasercut vinyl machines....that just cut out the designs...for around 350-800 dollars. If you offered say 8 different colors of the same graphic....it wouldn't be that exspensive.

ToyotaCelicas.com actually offers their decals for 3 bucks a piece...unless you buy two and then u get two for 5 dollars. Coomer should maybe ask that webmaster how he does his for such little money and investigate.

Again, for cost effectiveness, monotone decals would be the best choice. If you want to get into 20-30 per decal then you can go with different colored one peice decals.

This post has been edited by snadman: Jan 11, 2003 - 2:26 AM

[capncrakhed]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Dec 10 2002, 08:59 PM)

figured it was about time I got into this... so here are my ideas tell me what you think, and I can change them accordingly

I want to make the middle one...pretty much exactly like that....now my question is...what will i need in order to get a copy of it?

is that cool with u ghost dog??