The supra thread...., Yea, you knew it was coming. Options

[SupraKid]

Well i figured its time to explain why the celica was sold, and what has happened/will happen. I'd like to thank 6gc.net as a whole, it was an AWESOME place to learn new things, without this site, my 14 year old self may have never gotten into cars. Id like to personally thank MaskedMan, D-man, 808celica, SeverX13, NgoFcukinWay, DEATH, njccmd2002, even the rican. Im sure i missed people, but you know who you are. Its been an awesome 4 years(even though im not leaving) From calling jon to help me replace my wheel stud, to Johnathon helping me diagnose my idle issue, to even 6gc gossip with derrick, you all helped me get my celica to where it was and i couldn't have done with without you all. Thanks guys. /teh ghey

-----------------------------------------------PRE STORY----------------------------------------------

For those of you that don't know I took my celica from this:

To this:


Doing ALL the work you see, paint, exhaust, interior, ect. EVERYTHING over the course of 3 years myself(my brother did shoot the paint however).Anyway, after my first year in college i realized i don't daily drive anywhere as I'm in the dorms, so I really don't need an economical car. With my celica being a ST AND a coupe i was fairly limited as far as performance and looks in my mind. After driving my brothers 97 cobra while the celica was being painted i realized i loved the feel of heavy powerful rwd sports cars(June 2010).Right after this i discovered the mk3 supra, a cheap, and very fast car if you can do the work and maintenance yourself. After looking for one ever since june 10', in may 2011 i had a friend i met through the supraworld offer me a 1987 Toyota supra turbo 5 speed shell with 112k on it for 125$. I immediately jumped on it and picked it up:

I really like this picture, as it shows the sexy moded celica, and a supra under a tarp...waiting..


Had plans to rebuild the car for resale and to use the profit to buy myself a targa supra(i HAD to have a targa). A few weeks later i was browsing and found a guy getting utterly flamed on SupraMania after "his brother took his supra out and blew it up" and then cried because of it, as he had another supra that blew up. The kid was so angry with supras he put everything up for sale, but at normal prices(1k for the stock car, 2k for the moded). After being flamed again in his FS thread he took them down. I Pmed him half joking, being myself, and offered 500$ for both cars with blown engines...Well looky here:

So as of june i owned 3 non running supras and my celica. When i got home for the summer I pieced the 2 engines together(one had a bad head gasket, and one had rod knock) to hopefully make 1 strong engine to put in the blue car. No such luck:
Blue car running with what turned out to be Rod Knock.
At this time i put the blue car up for sale as a roller for 300$, and it sold(new owner STILL hasnt picked it up). In early July i decided to put my celica up for sale. It was very hard to do, as my dad owned it for over 11 years before me, and i learned to drive on it. But this weekend( July 23rd) it sold to a dad and son looking for a good first car for 2700$. In the meantime the white car got scrapped for 300$ and i had around 4 grand to get my red car up and running.


---------------------------------------------Actual build-------------------------------------------

Now enough with the stories, onto my red supra build. The car is a 1989 toyota supra turbo 5 speed targa top with tems.Bought for around $150 as a roller. Car has 24x,xxx on it and a salvaged title. It was involved in a pretty bad rear end accident, but luckily no frame damage.

After the blue and white car money came in I purchased a recently rebuilt 7mgte from the same friend that sold me the blue car, the engine is said to have 10k on a full engine importer rebuild. This weekend, after saying goodbye to the celica, I've kept myself busy and not thinking about my heresy by buying a lot parts(hehe) and getting the new 7m ready to go into my new car. The car will be getting a 5 speed with a ACT stage 3 clutch, a stock exhaust with a 3r muffler( for smog, then ill be going a full straight 3.5" system after smog is gone).
The car:

Parts being painted:


Helicoiled exhaust studs:

Engine slowly going together:

New black dash<3:

5 speed getting ready to go in:

In:

3.5" exhaust:

The plans for the car are to slowly build it the same way i built the celica, almost exactly the same, except this time i have a large chunk of change to play with. Near future plans include:
Tein coilovers
Double din
Some kinda flush wide black rims
Aftermarket FMIC
whaletail wing and new front grille insert
Viper 2 way alarm
Full LED conversion(already ordered)
Dark candy red paint job
Tint
350rwhp as a goal

Future plans(1-2 year +):
A fully built 2jzgte, 700rwhp at high boost

I hope to have the engine in the bay tomorrow night, and having running in 2 days, then i can buff the car and get some good pictures and videos >:). Hopefully the supra will treat me as well as the celica did. As some of you know, letting a celica go is very hard because they are so damn reliable, and have so much character, but just not enough potential in my mind. I will be getting back into the celica world in a few years when I'm out of college and need a Daily driver again, but don't any of you worry,especially you manny, i wont be leaving this site .

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jul 25, 2011 - 1:19 AM

[Keiri]

Sad to see the Celica go but we all grow up and go to better things. You've gotten some really nice deals on these MK3s and I can't wait to see the build of the red targa. Good luck and all that jazz...even though we know you'll be on here all the time.

[NgoFcukinWay]

All the best for ya, Andrew! I look forward to seeing how it all turns out.

[Cuts_the_Pilot]

You've done well here, good luck with it all.

Dont be scared of the 7m, you can get good power from them. Some arp bolts screwed down tight (far past the factory torque setting) and you will avoid the BHG issues the later M engines are known for.

[richee3]

MOAR 2JZ NAOW!!!

Just kidding. I'm pretty jealous of your Supra build. I was hoping you'd make a thread. Be sure to keep me updated.

[njccmd2002]

did you keep the lip of the blue supra, the lip was nice, i dont know but the red bumper looks odd....

i hear you with the cars.... im more into the earlier celicas now. but the vert is always in my heart... it still gets a everynow and then go around...

good luck....

[SupraKid]

Thanks berto. Yea the front bumper will be getting a nice grille insert and an aftermarket lip. My only real exterior plans are the front bumper, coilovers, whaletail rear wing and a tasteful set of black rims. And paint of course. But that is really all mk3s need IMO to look really good, kinda like bimmers.


Well today went pretty much according to plan, got the exhaust, driveshaft and engine all in place, by this time tomorrow she should be up and running!


I used my spare OEM oil cooler and made a PS cooler. The reason being when the mk3 was ran in a rally group A test the only fluid that was overheated was the PSing.

[whatthe]

The re-trimmed dash loooks really nice.

[SupraKid]

After 3 days of random BS crap, she is finally running...

Day 1 was composed of just buttoning things up, bolting everything together, ect.
Day 2 was all about trying to fix my coolant leaks and trying to figure out why my starter wasn't engaging. Turned out it was, but I had pulled the plugs, and the engine was so smooth it just sounded like the starter wasn't working at all.
Day 3(today) The previous owner had done a few mods, one including putting direct 12v to the fuel pump, and i had disconnected it, so i was getting no fuel.. Around 5pm I started her up, and she sounded like THIS. Needless to say, i was afraid i was about to go through my 4th 7mgte.Did a comp test, and all cylinders were either 149 or 150, almost perfect . Luckily the issue of the whining was the power steering pump being low(from the cooler being filled), and the timing was way off. But after i figured it out, i took the car out for a drive...

From the get go obviously you can feel a power difference, but since i have some massive vacuum leaks, i am losing power at about 3.5k. The braking in this car is INCREDIBLE. The GT brakes on the celica seem like they are off a school bus comparatively. It may be the new proxies, but idk it stops on a DIME. The handling is actually much better than I had though it would be for such a pig. Tomorrow everything should get all buttoned up, put the manual boost controller on and up the boost from 6-9. Then go take her for a REAL drive.


This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jul 30, 2011 - 12:00 AM

[epocsirhc]

A few questions/concerns
1.Why put all this time and money into a salvaged title car? To me the blue one appeared to be a good choice, or even the white one(favorite color).
2.The muffler doesn't matter for smog as long as you have the catalytic converter. Just do it the way you want it the first time.
3.What power does the 7m put down from the factory?

All in all great choice in moving away from fwd na 4cyl power. I wish I never got into my celica or 4 Honda's I currently have(except for cheap parts and mpg's). I look forward to seeing what you do, and respect that you do everything yourself. I can't stand having other people touch my vehicles the only exception is my father.

[manphibian]

You're doing great spud

Full props for doing it all yourself

[SupraKid]

And this 7mgte has slight rod knock...Goodbye you *******************************************************.. Insert what im sure you know im saying there..I pick up my 1jz clip tuesday...

[njccmd2002]

wait, rod knock? that completely sucks ass. sorry to hear that..

[richee3]

Rod knock? 1JZ? Sounds to me like a perfect excuse to go rip some donuts and bounce off the rev limiter until the motor blows.

[SupraKid]

hahaha i plan to richee..The only thing i care about is the turbo(as i can get some $ for it) and the tranny.. Im gonna be changing the oil and filter tomorrow with hopes it MIGHT cure it. If not it looks like ill be putting the ****ty tires on and going to have some fun . I did drive the car about 10 miles to the gas station and she felt pretty good, besides the motor mounts being broken and it leaning every time im above 5k lol. I will still be driving it the 20 miles to nationals tomorrow, but then she will most likely go under the knife..again....

[NgoFcukinWay]

you can use the same R154 for the 1JZ.

[whatthe]

ROD KNOCK? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[SwissFerdi]

Props, really, for getting your hands dirty like this.

Best of luck.

[easternpiro1]

i said it on the phone and i'll say it again

you TRAITOR!!

sorry to hear about the issues bro! send us MOAR pics!

[SupraKid]

Luckily it seems the knock is not the rods, its a pulley or something. Last night i drove the car to my brothers, which is about 20 miles with some great highway stretches, curves, and stops. I have to say overall the celica was way more comfy to drive. The shifting, the steering, the interior, was just comfier in the celica. They handle about the same with the TEMS engaged fully on the supra(but that makes the ride horrible). Obviously the key difference is the raw power the supra has. Although the responsiveness the celica had was awesome, the supra is obviously leaps and bounds ahead in power. It is def NOT a touger, even with the stock ct26 there is so some serious turbo lag, which means pushing out of corners isn't as easy as it was in the celica(idk maybe i just need to learn to drive better to keep the turbo spooled).

I still have a major vac leak on the intake manifold, and I need to redo my couplers as i have a few leaks, so the ecu is pissed and fights me if I really floor it.hopefully i can get those fixed in a few days, then i can up the boost and start the fun . New pics will most likely be up tomorrow, i absolutely LOVE the looks of this car with the targa off, i think i may keep it off all the time when i'm parked at home lol.


Today has been composed of repainting the window trim, and lightly tinting all the exterior lights.


EDIT: The first kill. Took my step dad out for a drive to show him the car, sittin it traffic and a highschool friend in his e46 pulls up, i know him pretty well so we were both just joking around. We left the light quick, the supra sputtered and bogged down bad cause the vac leak and various things, but once it started going god DAMN. The thing just RIPPED past the e46.Wasnt a real kill i guess, but was nice to know the supra has ballz.I think I'm in love

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jul 31, 2011 - 8:21 PM

[epocsirhc]

Boost will make you feel good! It's very habit forming however I suggest you get rid of the vacuum leaks so you get the full experience and possibly a video

[SupraKid]

Took the both the upper and lower intake manifolds off and cleaned the crap out of them. Hopefully they will seal well finally so i can smog it and start the moding.



This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 1, 2011 - 10:39 PM

[SupraKid]

Vac leak is fixed. I was on vacation, and when i got home a whole bunch of goodies had arrived. The supra got some MAJOR love today...
Took out the dash to install a few things and put in the new one

I spy with my little eye..a 5901

HkS ftw

Once you go black....

mmm tint


Tomorrow i hope to button everything up and buff and wax the car.. Then go for a REAL photoshoot.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 8, 2011 - 11:46 PM

[NgoFcukinWay]

where'd you pick up the door panels from?

[SupraKid]

My car+duplicolor..The duplicolor vynal and plastic paint is awesome.

[NgoFcukinWay]

Oh nice.

This thread makes me want a MK3 again. Fcuk being broke. argh

[SupraKid]

haha just wait, lots of stuff in the works..

[epocsirhc]

Not feeling the presumably nightshaded lenses, but everything else is good. I had no idea the duplicolor trim paint tunred out that good I've usually heard of people using s.e.m. product.

Where are the video's at?

[SupraKid]

Not feeling the presumably nightshaded lenses, but everything else is good. I had no idea the duplicolor trim paint tunred out that good I've usually heard of people using s.e.m. product.

Where are the video's at?

Once the black rims go on, and the tint goes it will all flow, dont worry.


Today i fixed my EGR leak, and buttoned up the PCV system which made the computer happy. I then got the dash all squared away and installed the MBC and turbo timer. Coming out of my driveway i floored it and dropped the clutch(before this would make the proxies squeal a bit and the rear end would kick just a bit) this time however the rear end FLEW out and i was left 90 degrees in the middle of the road. Luckily i live on a dead end so i got to stop and laugh hysterically. I would say before i was at around 60% of my HP as the comp was retarding the timing and i had some massive vac leaks, now id say im at around 90%, with the extra 10% being from small things like intake and boost leaks.

Prosport gauges and pillar pod should be here in a few days ...A video is pending. Sadly the semester starts in 11 days so all my time with the car will be purely going to making sure its gonna be bullet proof(torquing, measuring,testing, changing out fluids, ect)The boring sh!t.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 11, 2011 - 12:16 AM

[SupraKid]

Polished and waxed the car today and installed my eagle rims:

[NgoFcukinWay]

thems be some dated wheels.

[epocsirhc]

I like them with the newer twin turbo wheels.

[SupraKid]

Well these wheels will most likely be going because:

A:The tires leak pretty bad
B:The tires are crappy and worn
C:I don't like the rims enough, they are almost just like the sawblades


So ill just sell these for 200$ or something to a mustang owner and then get a nice set of black 18s.

[SwissFerdi]

Yeah, those wheels look entirely too 70's American sports car. Fail.

[BonzaiCelica]

ya performance first then paint! I think the same way as you do

[SupraKid]

Changed the supertech oil and filter out today for rotela and a pure one, and this is what the oil looked like,200 miles is all ive driven using this brand new supertech and filter:



Also i hooked up my prosport boost gauge today, and my max boost..4psi..4...I must have a huge boost leak someplace or the wastegate has issues..

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 13, 2011 - 11:28 PM

[whatthe]

get some advans dude

[richee3]

Just think, Andrew. 4 psi and you're already having that much fun. Imagine how it'll be once you get everything sorted out. Then rub it in my face and make me hate my unboosted IS and crappy non-running FWD Celica a little more

[SupraKid]

yea..i mean the OEM boost gauge says im hitting about 6, which is OEM. But i plan to run 8 just to be safe as the car is the DD. Double the boost..i cant wait Im still shooting a TPS, coolant sensor and knock code. So the car STILL is not 100% happy.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 14, 2011 - 6:45 PM

[Ted95]

good job andrew, happy to see your plan coming together, i kno how badly u wanted a supra.. well running supra lol and now its all comin together, good job

[SupraKid]

Well when i attempted to smog i couldnt even get a fail as i had to much o2 coming out. Heres why:

At least SOME good things happened today:



So now i get the pleasure of spending 250$ to get new cats welded in, then 80$ to smog the damn thing and HOPEFULLY pass. Then i get to rip it allll off again and ill be right back where i am now..Gotta love CA

[mak5603]

That's rough. I'm about to send my alltrac through emissions, then cat less straight pipe turbo back she goes.

[epocsirhc]

Or you could make a "friend" that smogs cars. If only people would employ me as a part-time smog tech

[SupraKid]

Yea thats what im looking into right now epoc..Well the car is finally happy, got the new mounts in, fixed my boost issues(im now at 9psi) and put the sawblades and proxies back on. Took it out for a drive with my step dad as im leavin sunday, Set it sideways a few times from a dead stop. But its def ready to roll. Tomorrow I hope to get the prosports installed and get the car cleaned up.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Aug 19, 2011 - 10:14 PM

[Ted95]

Yea thats what im looking into right now epoc..Well the car is finally happy, got the new mounts in, fixed my boost issues(im now at 9psi) and put the sawblades and proxies back on. Took it out for a drive with my step dad as im leavin sunday, Set it sideways a few times from a dead stop. But its def ready to roll. Tomorrow I hope to get the prosports installed and get the car cleaned up.

what caused the boost issue?

i wanna see some pics of her cleaned up

This post has been edited by Ted95: Aug 19, 2011 - 10:53 PM

[SupraKid]

Had a boost leak and the MBC wasnt hooked up properly

[SupraKid]

Well the car got a passed smog sheet and is now registered . Ordered new intake manifold and throttle body gaskets, and a new CPS cover from partznet on here(was cheaper than ALL the supra vendors, go figure). Next step is the sound system, sadly the supra isnt equipped with the stock sound system like the celica, its rocking 1980s 4.5"s all around X.X. So ill be upgrading all 6 to infinity refs, along with a new single din deck with USB port, and finally over 600watts RMS is sub(s) in a ported box. Stay turned

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Sep 3, 2011 - 5:13 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

darn no wonder why you never modded your celi much. all this time you were savings it up for the supra. good progress

[richee3]

Silly Andrew. Nobody likes Supras anyway

[SupraKid]

Well the car got a passed smog sheet and is now registered . Ordered new intake manifold and throttle body gaskets, and a new CPS cover from partznet on here(was cheaper than ALL the supra vendors, go figure). Next step is the sound system, sadly the supra isnt equipped with the stock sound system like the celica, its rocking 1980s 4.5"s all around X.X. So ill be upgrading all 6 to infinity refs, along with a new single din deck with USB port, and finally over 600watts RMS is sub(s) in a ported box. Stay turned

Ask and ye shall receive :



The new money pit:


This post has been edited by SupraKid: Sep 23, 2011 - 6:26 PM

[NYp8tBaller07]

Thought you might like this
CLICKY!

[Stambo]

i'm lucky we dont even do emissions on 95 n older. They don't even stick a sniffer in the tail pipe anymore, just check for codes.

[SupraKid]

Well its been about 2 months of driving and the car is still going strong! Of course, being a mk3, the hood is open at least once a week for some stupid little issue but overall the car has been good. The 3.5" exhaust still isnt on, but with gutted cats a and upped PSI the car pulls like hell.


Sadly I already want to upgrade. So the major upgrades are stopping and MKIV saving begins .

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Oct 1, 2011 - 11:21 PM

[njccmd2002]

are u going for an mkiv? nice, hope you find one in decent range.

[SupraKid]

Yea I'm going to be shooting for a targa NA for under 10 grand. Then hopefully pick up a vvti GTTE from my importer and put that in afterwards(I really dislike NA lol). The reason i'm already done with the mk3 is that I don't like having the thought in the back of my mind of "what is going to break", i wanna be able to go get in my car and just DRIVE. As well as I LOVE the mk4 as its the mix between the 6gc look and the mk3s fury. I had ideas of getting an older impreza and putting a newer STIs heart in it, but after getting the truck, i have no need for awd in the snow.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Oct 2, 2011 - 4:15 PM

[richee3]

This thread needs moar video.

I'm going for the same mkIV you are. If I can ever get the BEAMS sorted out, that is.

[Smaay]

its GTE not GTTE, you already come off as a newb! and why on earth would you install the VVT 2JZ-GTE? again another NEWB move!! the VVT engine is not as strong at the legacy ones. plus there is so much more wiring involved. if you are going to get an NA supra, just boost the NA engine. its so much cheaper and still very reliable! but hey spend 10,000 bucks when you dont have to

This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 4, 2011 - 1:56 PM

[richee3]

Smaay, I've been told the NA block is actually better for boosting. Something about oil squirters. Any truth to that?

I agree with the opinion that an NA Supra is just for looks. That's all my IS is good for. The NA 2JZ is just any other 220hp 6 cylinder. It's nothing special. But buying an NA auto mkIV is the way to go. They're so much cheaper.

[SupraKid]

its GTE not GTTE, you already come off as a newb! and why on earth would you install the VVT 2JZ-GTE? again another NEWB move!! the VVT engine is not as strong at the legacy ones. plus there is so much more wiring involved. if you are going to get an NA supra, just boost the NA engine. its so much cheaper and still very reliable! but hey spend 10,000 bucks when you dont have to

It has 2 turbos right jeff? jk And please read:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthrea...ion-information

People seem to think the vvti is inferior, therefor instead of actually researching people just jump on the bandwagon and dont care. When in reality the VVTI is just as strong and has a much better powerband. Plus my importer gets vvtis and I can get the full swap for 2500, so im thinking roughly 4 grand in and running.

Idk if its BETTER richee, but with a TT hg it is fine for boosting, and has a higher comp ratio allowing you to run e85. But i want the vvti for the future .

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Oct 4, 2011 - 8:40 PM

[SupraKid]

Decided since it ill be a few years before I will have enough money to afford a mk4 I should continue to upgrade the mk3..So tomorrow some exterior changes will be enacted. Really Important Mk3 Shit will be occuring.

Oh and one of these:


This post has been edited by SupraKid: Oct 26, 2011 - 2:24 PM

[SwissFerdi]

Waiting here, eagerly expecting larger sizing.

[SupraKid]

Yes they are larger than the stockers, in every way .


This post has been edited by SupraKid: Oct 26, 2011 - 5:06 PM

[Valo666]

I'll just leave these here....


2500WHP All-metal widebody twin-turboed 3RU-FE V8 that will rev to 10,000RPM.

Build thread...
Chris Rado's twinturbo V8 supra build

[kurt95gt]

Wow that's it just 2500whp lol

[Neon90424]

a top fuel dragster produces what...8000 horsepower...

2500 horsepower...Im pretty sure you could fly a small plane with that....or a winged supra

as to the rear wheels to hold 2500 Hp...im thinking...


This post has been edited by Neon90424: Nov 1, 2011 - 10:01 PM

[Ted95]

its gunna look good i kno it lol


btw MK4

[NgoFcukinWay]

are you sure that whale's gonna fit on the car?

[SupraKid]

Why are the supra threads getting spammed with $100k+ builds? I'm gonna go get LED-BOYs build and post in everyones build thread now.-____-



ANYWAY. So the Really Important Mk3 Shit is on and lookin good. Picked up the pictured item last night, its now sitting in my hatch. And Some Pretty Ridiculous Intriguing Nice Grounding Shit are now in the works. Pictures this weekend!

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Nov 8, 2011 - 2:29 PM

[SupraKid]

Pictures, it started raining RIGHT as I finished up, so here is how she sits atm:

[Ted95]

i kinda wish the interior was a lil more stylish in these guys.. id still whip one of these guys around tho

[my94st]

Pictures, it started raining RIGHT as I finished up, so here is how she sits atm:

I think you just made me a fan of the older supras... good luck to you in college, im in my second year and im still rocking my 6gc. I want something new but yet I don't want to part with the old. We'l see what happens though!

[RabidTRD]

I'd love to own an older Supra Turbo.

I feel like over time I'll have a collection... >.< 6th Gen Celica, MR2 Turbo, Supra Turbo, AE86, 70's Celica, 70's Corona, and now the FRS is on my list. I will own each of these cars at some point in my life.

[SupraKid]

Well she got sent to a new home. But the guy will treat her right and mod the crap out of her. Back into the 6gc game i go.

[EKAn]

How come you sold her?

[SupraKid]

Mpg, age, reliability. And the unweening need of a mk4 haha.

[Ted95]

you gunna pick up another 6th gen for cheap until the mk4 comes around?

[Neon90424]

MK4's are by far one of the nicest cars I have ever seen... only seen one down here...

[Smaay]

i love having a MKIV

[SupraKid]

Thanks for rubbing it in jeff :'( haha. I will have one within a few years.

[njccmd2002]

so, getting a 6gc or not?

[SupraKid]

You'll just have to wait and see i guess.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Dec 17, 2011 - 1:56 PM

[RabidTRD]

A RED ONE!? lol