Mrs 3sgte project. Options

[02bluerolla]

I wanted to share my project with yall , it all started when I wanted a bit more power and decided to do a 2zz swap. I purchased a 2zz of craigslist and the swap kit of monkeywrench.com. After gathering all the parts and installeda new oil pump and water pump I decided to install the engine. The engine ran fine for days until it started knocking, the bearings were gone. I didnt know what to do, I could have just put back the 1zz and sell the remainig parts but I found a good deal on another 2zz on a local junk yard. Long story short that engine didn't last more then a week and the junk yard would only give me credit so I let my bro have the credit and just to pay me. At this point I was about to put the 1zz back, but my bro decide to give me the gen 3 3sgte hee had purchased from a silver a celica. We had the crazy idea to swap the 3sgte in the mrs.

stock


Wheels and coilovers


Taking down the 2zz





Our helper






Getting the 3sgte ready






3sgte is in!

[02bluerolla]

Ill post more details later on.

[mak5603]

Awesome build! I always thought these cars would be pretty cool with a 3s!

I wanna see some vids and know how it feels. Have you driven an SW20? How does it feel in comparison?

[hatchy_gt-s]

Its cool that your doing that swap but why the 3s? Why not go with something more modern?

[02bluerolla]

Awesome build! I always thought these cars would be pretty cool with a 3s!

I wanna see some vids and know how it feels. Have you driven an SW20? How does it feel in comparison?

i haven't had a chance to drive a mk2 turbo.

This post has been edited by 02bluerolla: Aug 26, 2011 - 5:52 PM

[02bluerolla]

Its cool that your doing that swap but why the 3s? Why not go with something more modern?

me and my brother have 3sgte celicas, and we recently bought a sliver one with a 3rd gen wrc 3sgte in it for parts. We have 2 spare celica gt transmission, alot cv joints, and tons of 2nd 3sgte parts left over from our clips. i chose the 3sgte because we had more experience on them and we have alot of spare parts. I really wanted a 2zzge but the ones i bought turned out to be bad.
Also the cost to do the swap would of turned out to be identical but only becasue i already had some of the parts for the 3sgte . If i had to start from scratch the 2zz would have been alot cheaper.

This post has been edited by 02bluerolla: Aug 26, 2011 - 6:02 PM

[hatchy_gt-s]

Its cool that your doing that swap but why the 3s? Why not go with something more modern?

me and my brother have 3sgte celicas, and we recently bought a sliver one with a 3rd gen wrc 3sgte in it for parts. We have 2 spare celica gt transmission, alot cv joints, and tons of 2nd 3sgte parts left over from our clips. i chose the 3sgte because we had more experience on them and we have alot of spare parts. I really wanted a 2zzge but the ones i bought turned out to be bad.
Also the cost to do the swap would of turned out to be identical but only becasue i already had some of the parts for the 3sgte . If i had to start from scratch the 2zz would have been alot cheaper.

I like those reasons My dad has one and he's looking at doing the 3RGFE V6 swap!

[Cuts_the_Pilot]

Thats awesome, tight squeeze (yeah yeah thats what she said )

Should go hard.

Whats the laws where you are, in Australia its illegal to have an engine older then the car installed.

Im guessing its an adapter block on the stock mani with a gate port?

[lagos]

Awesome project! Look forward to some videos when its done!!!

[02bluerolla]

Thats awesome, tight squeeze (yeah yeah thats what she said )

Should go hard.

Whats the laws where you are, in Australia its illegal to have an engine older then the car installed.

Im guessing its an adapter block on the stock mani with a gate port?

Lol , iam sure its illegal here in texas, but aslong I can get my inspection sticker iam fine.


Thanks lagos ill post videos as soon as it runs.

[02bluerolla]

Well some details about the swap. Iam using a 3rd generation wrc 3sgte with 268cams, ats cam gears, brand new toyota headgasket and arp headstuds. Everything else in the block is stock. I have a gt3071r turbo kit and also using a celica gt transmission . I tried to use every part I had available , the gt transmission works with the mrs axles . The only problem is that the shifting mechanism is facing the wrong way , a NA mk2 mr2 transmission will fix that since the mechanism is facing towards the cabin. But I don't want to buy another transmission so iam just going to transfer the mrs shifting mechanism to the gt. Is not plug and play but nothing a little welding can't fix. I know the e153 is a WAY BETTER but it is expensive, I would have to get custom axles , shifter cables a new clutch and a transmission. Hopefully the gt transmission can handle the abuse for a few months.I had to get custom mounts and cut the cross member a little bit. what am most excited about is that the ac is going to work! My previous celica didn't have ac and it was terrible . Now a small update


Some final testing fitting with the cross member on.


Wiring ready to put in


iam thinking of putting the stock wheels back


Or konig wideopen 15x8

[HectortheRican]

I'd go with Konigs, those would look amazing on the MR-S. They'll give it a nice, track-ready look.

[02bluerolla]

Teaser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWVHb1nAnRs...be_gdata_player

Ill post a bigger update later on today.


This post has been edited by 02bluerolla: Sep 19, 2011 - 1:38 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

nice make sure to put 1.5 way or helical lsd on that s54 if you plan on keeping the motor pretty stock. I heard s54 can handle up to 300hp or something like that.

[02bluerolla]

Well its been awhile since I updated this thread, we have been real busy fixing the bugs and taking care of small details. On the video I posted the car wouldn't turn on because the fuel pump was wired wrong but we fixed it and here it is running. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNZIfYTsh4I...be_gdata_player
The car wouldn't idle because most of the vacuums weren't connected.
Now to the pictures

I decided to clean the engine bay a bit

After a few minutes


We also had to fix and filled some of the cutting and welding we did to fit the engine, mainly were the intake manifold seats.
It got late but we needed to finish it before we put the motor back in.













The engine almost ready to go back in


Ready!



Looks stock there's no swap here !




I also got my wheels last week! Konig wideopen.

Wheel

Test fitment




Here is the 2nd time we start her up with no vacuum leaks, but at the end my phone runs out battery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2aoG90hRAo...be_gdata_player

Right now we are almost done, we are just waiting for the front and back mounts. Hopefully the car will be done this week.

This post has been edited by 02bluerolla: Sep 19, 2011 - 7:51 PM

[thatmr2]

updates?

[GMan]

Lol , iam sure its illegal here in texas, but aslong I can get my inspection sticker iam fine.

Any OBDII testing in TX ?
If there is, there is no way you will get a sticker ?

Awsome swap !

Regards;

[stephen_lee]

in houston tey have some strict emissions/safty inspections. but the rest of tx is pretty lax on that stuff. if my lights work and it stops, its passed

[epocsirhc]

I'm very jealous of the relaxed regulations.

[Smaay]

wow what an awesome build! i give you mad props for putting a 3rd gen in there. i would have gone 2ZZ and boost it. exhust is on the back and much more room. i have driven boosted 2ZZ MRs and they are awesome!

[02bluerolla]

UPDATE!!

Well a late update lol. The car has been running for the past 2 weeks. When we first started up the car it would idle fine but it wouldn"t rev pass 3000 rpm. We checked everything that could possibly go wrong. Everything was good! The car sat there for few weeks until we decided to rechecked everything again. We found out that we had the wrong ecu! I think i had a gen 2 ecu idk, but i ordered a gen 3 wrc ecu and it started and rev like it should.
Next up Was the shifter cables . I had try many different cables from various toyotas and none of them work, they were either to long or to short.
so i had to get custom ones.

for 30$ each not bad


I also had to use a 91 mr2 shifter assembly. I later clean it up and painted it.





Once i was done, the car shifted fine, not like i would like to but it shifted. The shifter lost is sporty feel, idk it felt too smooth. I cant really explain it but i didnt like it. But i had to deal with it since it was the only solution i could come up with. Next came the wheels,i just had gotten some new rubber too.




I really like the wheels but like a moron i didn't research how wide i could go in the front and rear so i ended up with the front wheel poking out a bit too much....

i been thinking of buying or trading my front ones for some 15x7 enkie rpf1, but i really havent put the time and effort to do it.
Well bad luck struck and as soon as i put the car down on its 4 wheels and started it , the transmission got stuck in a gear. It turns out that i was to excited to drive the car that i forgot to put oil in the transmission :facepalm: The next day i found a transmission for 100$ in a local forum! I picked that SOB fast and started working on the mr2. After that the car has not gave me any problems. The car feels good ! Here are some recent pics after i cleaned her up. I have not pushed the car since the motor been sitting there for awhile plus i have new tires and clutch. My future mods would be putting my heat ex changer in the front instead of the back, get custom ac lines , and maybe get a power fc and a upgraded fuel system.









This post has been edited by 02bluerolla: Jan 13, 2012 - 11:47 AM

[02bluerolla]

oh yeah i will get videos in a few days! I just have to make a trip to ATS and see if we can take my bros car (celica ) to get dyno and tuned.

[BonzaiCelica]

oooo awesome!! your cars looks mexican out now. (haha the wheels do like a bit wide!!! oh well live and learn. get them videos up the car looks very clean.

[Ted95]

how do those tires handle?

car looks sickk man!

This post has been edited by Ted95: Jan 14, 2012 - 9:59 AM

[02bluerolla]

oooo awesome!! your cars looks mexican out now. (haha the wheels do like a bit wide!!! oh well live and learn. get them videos up the car looks very clean.

jaja for real it does. Ill get videos when i take it to the track in a few weeks, But first i have to fix a coolant leak , that i cant seem to figure out where is it coming from.

how do those tires handle?

car looks sickk man!

Thanks! but i haven t really driven the car hard, right now iam driving it slow.

[02bluerolla]

New parts arrived last week so i decide to install them and since iam working on it i decided to relocate my heat exchanger .


ha the original one looks really thin compare to the new one




The fans bolted on perfectly.











And I also got my vanity plates!

[JasonTX]

pretty slick man. keep it up

[02bluerolla]

pretty slick man. keep it up

thanks man
anything new with your celica?

[Smaay]

awesome project, id love to drive it!

[GMan]

Awsome Project !