So I bought another Celica..., And copied Bitter's thread! Options

[richee3]

I just couldn't resist. It's regrettably not a 6th gen. It's a black 2000 GT-S, auto. And Jordan, I'm gonna need you to go ahead and change your sig... I assure you, my GT-S is slower. It can only go as fast as the truck pulling it. Time to bust out dad's camouflaged Silverado again! :embarrassed: However, this makes Celica #6 for me.

Here's the story. One of my friends saw me go through a few Celicas and slowly fell in love with them. He eventually picked this car up a few years ago. The only mod he has on it is a CAI, which I put on. Anyway, he bumped into a deer a few months back which dented the hood. (Deer hate Celicas. Fact. They loathe these cars.) So the deer gets pissed and Spartan kicks the giy's front bumper. No lie. Shoved his hoof right through the bumper. So the body isn't in great shape, but it's acceptable. Then he hit something else, I can't remember what, which ripped his fender liner off and exposed his cold air intake filter. Then in September, we had quite a bit of rain. He hit a puddle of water. Not too deep, but it splashed everywhere. The car sputtered and died. After a few minutes, he got it started again. Drove it to McDonald's and got a McChicken, car ran beautifully, came back outside, and the car wouldn't start.

This is where I come in. I've looked the car over for him, checked all the fuses and relays, did my research, and looked at the car some more. The oil is black and filthy. Not good looking oil at all, but there's not a drop of water in it. When we try to start the car, we get one loud pop from the starter and that's it. I did more research and found out Toyota starters are prone to dying when being covered in water... Just like I told him. Based on what I've seen from this car, the fact that there's no water in the oil, the starter is killed, and the 2ZZ would have a bent rod if he sucked water in the motor. I'm fairly certain he didn't hydrolock it. Just killed the motor with the water either from water on the plugs or the sudden temperature change, and killed the starter by splashing water on it. He drove it after going through the water and it ran fine, indicative of no bent rods. He told this story to a mechanic, who didn't even look at the car. He just told him that the motor is ruined.

Quinten told me he was going to scrap the car. I'm not going to let it happen that easily. I've seen the car, the mechanic hasn't. I got the car for a very good price, but I'm giving him extra to help him out. Down payment for a new car. If nothing else, we've got new wheels, seats, and steering wheel for the BEAMS. I really think I can get it running again for the price of rebuilding the starter though, and have myself a cheap car for work. No more driving the Lexus to work mine construction! What do you guys think? Is it screwed or do I have a reasonable shot?

I have pictures of the car, pre-collision, at my house. I'll post them later. Picking the car up tomorrow or Monday.

This post has been edited by richee3: Dec 31, 2011 - 3:50 PM

[kurt95gt]

Id rebuild the starter an see what happens

[richee3]

Id rebuild the starter an see what happens

Yeah, definitely. The starter rebuild is only $50 and I'm pretty certain it will put the car back on the road. I'm just curious if I'm missing some important factor. The starter is definitely dead, and he had the car running shortly after he splashed through the water. It seems to me that the car is fine, apart from the body. Black 7th gen Celica, I'll be able to find replacement parts in a junkyard pretty easily. It's no BEAMS or 1MZ swapped Celica, but it beats daily driving my IS 300.

[kurt95gt]

Maybe check the fuses too might have just got the wires wet an popped a fuse too
Original was running fine after the fact it should run fine if you get it to start
Might check inside the dizzy cap too might have gotten inside
I don't know slot about the 7th gen but I had the same problem in my 5th Gen
It ended up being there was water in the dist an the ignitor module got wet an fryed

[richee3]

Fuses, relays, and fusible links were the first things I checked. The 2ZZ uses coil on plugs, so no dizzy. I'm fairly certain it's just the starter. I'll be able to find out this week. First thing I'm doing is taking the starter off to get rebuilt. Hopefully getting to pick the car up today or tomorrow and post some pictures up.

[richee3]

Not the greatest pictures, but here are the few that I have. I'll get more accurate, up-to-date, daylight pictures later.

[SwissFerdi]

Sweet Moses, nice. Didn't realize you had a 2ZZ in there - do me a favor and supercharge that. Congratulations though Daniel.

[cheela]

sell me the rims LOL. nice pick up. hope u can get it running. would be a fun DD.

[richee3]

Sweet Moses, nice. Didn't realize you had a 2ZZ in there - do me a favor and supercharge that. Congratulations though Daniel.

If I can get it running again, and that's a big if, supercharging has crossed my mind. I've got other priorities though.

sell me the rims LOL. nice pick up. hope u can get it running. would be a fun DD.

Lol the first day this guy had the car, he had it maybe 15 minutes, and that's the very first thing I told him. When I told him I'd buy the car from him, he told me he'd sell me everything but the rims because he knew I wanted them

Anyhoo, pictures. As you can see, it looks quite literally 100% the same as every other 7th gen- a cheap, plasticky, beat-up excuse for transportation. Seems like maybe 1 in 30 of these are actually in good condition.




Huge scratch at the bottom of the passenger door is from when the guy loaded it up on the trailer to take it to the mechanic that I picked it up from Then the other scratch above the rear tire was from the previous owner.





The reason he thinks it's hydrolocked:





Low on oil, fantastic.



More details I've learned about the car. I was previously under the impression that after he drove through the water, he got it started and it drove fine. Now he tells me that it was down on power after he got it started. The mechanic told me today that he cannot turn the motor over by hand. If that's the case, then that's why we hear a loud pop from the starter but nothing else happens. Nonetheless, I can take what the mechanic told me and still try. I'm not giving this car a huge time window. If I can't make any progress or find a 2ZZ for dirt cheap, then the car goes. I'm moving out January 29th and I need all my spare motors/car parts gone before then, and that includes whole cars. My dad tends to throw things away if I'm not here to guard them. I'm just curious why the mechanic couldn't turn the motor over by hand... If the car had a bent rod, that would explain why the car was down on power, but at the same time, water won't compress so I seriously doubt if he could have gotten it started again. I'll drain the oil later and see if there's water in the oil pan and pull the plugs (again) and check (again) for water in the cylinders.

Until I find a glimmer of hope for this car, and I have less now than I did when I started this thread, then it looks like the BEAMS just scored new seats, rims, and steering wheel. I just need to play around with this car- take the starter off and test it, see what it would take to turn the motor over, check the cost of replacement 2ZZ's (pretty sure they're around $2k from Ebay and I will not spend that much on this car), etc. It'll be Sunday before I can look at the car again though.

I personally doubt if the motor is hydrolocked. Locked up for different reasons could be a different story though... Cold water on a hot motor is never good. It's asking a lot for water to go through the air filter then travel all the way up the intake pipe and into the motor. I don't doubt that he might have sucked some water up, but I don't know if it would be enough to lock the motor up. Eh, we'll see. Thoughts and input are appreciated. I'm so unfamiliar with hydrolocking and the 7th gen in general.

By the way, really funny story about trying to pick the car up... I always thought it was kind of impossible to get locked inside a car, right? Well I found a way. The trailer I borrow to get cars like this, you can't open the car doors once it's on the trailer because of the trailer rails. The doors are too low and they open a couple of inches and hit the trailer. So today I had my phone in my truck to listen to my music, and I needed to turn the wheels on the car to straighten it up. Of course, I can't open the doors, so my normal solution is to roll down the windows. Dead battery, so I can't roll those down. My solution today was to crawl through the trunk. Well, the 7th gen doesn't have a trunk pop lever inside the cab like the 6th gen. It has a handle on the trunk and that's the only way to open it. So I popped the trunk and immediately noticed the struts were blown and wouldn't hold the trunk lid open. I remedied this by using the trunk shelf as a block to keep the lid from latching while I was inside the car. It would have worked, except when I finally got to the front of the car and sat down in the driver seat, my weight shifted the car forwards and then I hear the inevitable click from behind me. I turn around to see the shelf slid back inside the car, allowing the trunk to latch. No trunk lever inside the car, no way to open the doors, no way to roll the windows down, and my phone was inside the truck... I was literally stuck inside this car for 15-20 minutes with traffic going by, school buses going by, people walking by the truck, and nobody even looking. Those who did look assumed I was in the car and could get out. Finally, one guy walked by and I could get the door open enough to ask for his help. Talk about the most embarrassing moment of my life

This post has been edited by richee3: Jan 3, 2012 - 7:28 PM

[ricochet1490]

WOW! laughed out loud.... literally

[cjh4l22]

LOL I could tell where that story was going almost immediately, the same thing happened to a friend of mine.

[cheela]

LOL , man, that sucks. at least one guy helped you out. that's better than none

[richee3]

Yeah, I felt pretty dumb. The best part was having to ask a complete stranger to let me out of the car. Then as he was driving away, having to climb right back in the car to turn the wheels some more.

Pulled the plugs out earlier. No water in any of the cylinders, but it's been a while since this happened. If water got into one of the cylinders and bent a rod, hypothetically the water could have drained out of the cylinder and into the oil , where it would now be separated from the oil and in the bottom of the oil pan. I need to drain the oil and find out. The spark plugs look... stupid, to be honest. The gap is way off on each of them and one plug had the tip covered in oil. Crappy iPhone pic:

[cheela]

ew

[RabidTRD]

Lmao turn the lights back off next time you're going to take a pic of the 7th gen. It looked better that way

I could see you locking yourself in... laughed through out reading that. Really funny lmao.

[richee3]

It could have been an episode of "I Shouldn't Be Alive." Being locked in a 7gn is seriously scary business. I thought this would be my fate:

Middle aged women drive 7th gens in Chicago? I'll trade you. This is the only kind of person who drives them here.



And this is what the cars ALL look like:

Hmm... Wait... Is that my 7th gen...? I can't tell... They're all wrecked here....

But not mine for long! My work situation could be changing soon, causing me to drive 130 miles a day. Suddenly this Celica looks real good... I think the motor is locked up for sure. Not hydrolocked, but locked somehow. I'll be able to get a good look at it tomorrow. If it is locked, I might just keep it and pick up another 2ZZ in a couple of months. I'm looking forward to getting a day with this car tomorrow.

[Bitter]

IF that had a 6spd, I'd offer to come take the trans and ECU off your hands.

[Neon90424]

have you checked if the COP's are fried?

EDIT: just read again because I did a 2longdidnotread...

My car would click but not crank because the timing belt wrapped itself around and tightened itself

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jan 7, 2012 - 11:49 PM

[richee3]

IF that had a 6spd, I'd offer to come take the trans and ECU off your hands.

Unfortunately it's an autotragic Probably staying that way too. I don't really want to deal with the conversion for a car that I don't absolutely love.

have you checked if the COP's are fried?

EDIT: just read again because I did a 2longdidnotread...

My car would click but not crank because the timing belt wrapped itself around and tightened itself

The 2ZZ uses a timing chain, not a belt. I doubt if that's the issue since the car was running again for a short time. I'm going to get a good look at the car today and see if I can find anything.

My goal for the day is simply to not get locked in the car.

[kurt95gt]

Have you tried turning the engine over by hand yet

[cheela]

Lmao turn the lights back off next time you're going to take a pic of the 7th gen. It looked better that way

LOL!!! that's what I thought when I saw the pics too.

[Bitter]

Get the engine to turn over, check compression, if compression is good it should run. Might need to clean the VVT system filters out.

[richee3]

Lmao turn the lights back off next time you're going to take a pic of the 7th gen. It looked better that way

LOL!!! that's what I thought when I saw the pics too.

Hey! Be nice! Dead Celicas have feelings too!! Those original pictures I posted were taken last year at some point, when the car still looked as good at a 7th gen possibly can. Before any animal collisions. The guy just wanted some pictures so I turned on all the lights I could and handed him a camera and those are what he came up with. Now you see how the car looks today.

Seriously though, lights off.

Get the engine to turn over, check compression, if compression is good it should run. Might need to clean the VVT system filters out.

Yeah.... she's locked up tight as a drum. On the plus side, I got the starter to do more than just one loud click. Downside is I'm pretty sure either the starter or the flex plate just got some teeth ground off. Turning it over by hand didn't work either.

So I drained the oil to see if there was any water. It was all black and water free, fortunately. Downside is it's locked up for a different reason. I just can't figure out why right now. Although I'm sure this can't help...




Let's see here... Subtract 119,760 from 136,643.... Add 3,000 to it for the useful life of the oil... Yeah, it was definitely at 19,883 miles on this oil change. Whoops.

I had initially bought this car with every intention of getting rid of it at this point, knowing this motor cannot be turned over. However... I'm moving at the end of the month and I was intending to change job sites, but I'm now being bribed to stay where I am. If they can get me the money, I'll be driving 130 miles a day. 130 miles a day in the IS 300 isn't exactly my idea of fun, nor is it anyone's idea of cheap. Suddenly, this car is looking more tempting to me. I've gotten oddly good at removing S series engines, unfortunately. The 2ZZ looks more complicated to me but according to Smaay, is easier. I know he knows his stuff so what have I got to lose by trying? This car is screwed anyway. It won't hurt me to try pulling the motor out. I've already got the hoist in my garage, after all, not put away from the last BEAMS swap. I might pull the car into the garage tomorrow and tear into it.

[kurt95gt]

Just drop in a beams you got like what 10 of them now

[Bitter]

Well, the 2ZZ auto isn't the best highway miler either honestly. I think I get in the low 30's...mid to low 20's around town. Though I do have a heavy foot in the Celica.

[richee3]

Just drop in a beams you got like what 10 of them now

I'd love to feel a 7th gen with BEAMS power. Because the 2ZZ revs so high, it has very little low end torque like the BEAMS, which has 17 hp and 20-ish lb ft of torque more. Except for the fact that the BEAMS is heavier, I'd love to feel the 7th gen with that in the bay. According to Puretone, it would be "straight up gangster to hang a BEAMS in the bay." Nonetheless, the 2ZZ is much easier to find, info us readily available, and I doubt if I'll even swap in a 6 speed.

[Neon90424]

if ur gonna get a beams in there u might as well 3sgte it too.. newcelica has writeups for it I believe

[richee3]

if ur gonna get a beams in there u might as well 3sgte it too.. newcelica has writeups for it I believe

Nah, no BEAMS for me. I'd love to get this car running again but even after I spend $2k to get a new 2ZZ, I'll need to buy a new hood and bumper and I'd buy new headlights and taillights as well. It's a money pit for sure, and I'm not even that fond of 7th gens. I'd gladly spend the money for a 6th gen (though anyone who has read my progress thread knows that I had pretty much exactly the same car in a 6th gen and never did anything with it.) But a 7th gen just doesn't have the same appeal to me. I just really prefer the feel of a 6th gen. So I may never get this car running again. It'd be cool if I do but if I do, I definitely won't do anything custom. I won't even fix it up so a $1k 1ZZ will get it running. Even that takes too much effort. If I get it running again, it will be as simply as possible.

Side note, the car doesn't like going into park. Apparently it was stuck in park when Quinten went to load it up and get it to the mechanic, so he pulled on the shifter as hard as possible until it broke free. Now I can grab the shifter and pull it into any gear, any time, without the brake. Normally, I wouldn't care. The issue is that since the car won't fully go into park and stay there, I can't turn the key all the way off. It's stuck on accessory. I'm not familiar enough with auto transmissions, nor do I care to be, but I kinda need to figure out if that's a broken pin inside the transmission or if that's something inside the car. I just need to figure out a way to turn the key off.

[ricochet1490]

check the shifter linkage that goes on the outside of the gearbox that selects gears. There is a bushing there *usually* that might be made of plastic. This is really starting to look like it sucks though man......

[RabidTRD]

He didn't push on the shifter release? What a noob. You probably have a broken linkage at the tranny end. Does it even feel attached, or does it float to any gear really easy? If it's easy to move, and wont go into park, that's because the cable is smacking the broken end at the tranny that is still in park. Go to the front of the tranny and look for a L shaped lever with a cable running off of it and examine the cable. Also see if the lever moves by hand (maybe it's seized, since this guy was such a doof when it came to maintenance.)

[Bitter]

Eh, part the car. You have limited time and money and it needs alot of ****.

I might offer on the 3rd brake light (if it's not tinted),the front/rear seats, and intake.

[Neon90424]

he forced the automatic gear lever until it broke?

[richee3]

He said he pushed the shift release and brake, tested the steering wheel lock, and rocked the car back and forth but it was jammed in park. Finally has to yank it out of park. The shift linkage is definitely still connected but the ignition doesn't recognize that the car is in park. Weird.

Jordan- limited time is precisely why I won't part the car out. I'll live an hour and a half from the car soon, so a partout is impossible for me. If I get rid of it, those parts are yours.

No BEAMS will go in this car. It's a cool idea but not worth the effort to me. If I put a new motor in it, it will be a 2ZZ with an automatic. It's literally not even worth the effort to me to drop a 6 speed in. I could get a 1ZZ for half as much as a 2ZZ but even then sourcing a different motor mount and the other little tweaks are too much effort.

I really might get started pulling this motor out tomorrow. Sell it for scrap metal to recoup some of the cost of the car or something, but mostly just to have the experience.

[kurt95gt]

Wow
Gut it for what you want for the beams then sell what you can an scrap the leftovers
think theres just too much wrong to be worth while

[richee3]

Never said it was a good car That's literally all that's wrong with the car, mechanically. Seized motor and stupid shifter. It's an auto anyway, so it was broken before the car was ever manufactured

[Bitter]

He said he pushed the shift release and brake, tested the steering wheel lock, and rocked the car back and forth but it was jammed in park. Finally has to yank it out of park. The shift linkage is definitely still connected but the ignition doesn't recognize that the car is in park. Weird.

Jordan- limited time is precisely why I won't part the car out. I'll live an hour and a half from the car soon, so a partout is impossible for me. If I get rid of it, those parts are yours.

No BEAMS will go in this car. It's a cool idea but not worth the effort to me. If I put a new motor in it, it will be a 2ZZ with an automatic. It's literally not even worth the effort to me to drop a 6 speed in. I could get a 1ZZ for half as much as a 2ZZ but even then sourcing a different motor mount and the other little tweaks are too much effort.

I really might get started pulling this motor out tomorrow. Sell it for scrap metal to recoup some of the cost of the car or something, but mostly just to have the experience.

Nah, put the block up on newcelica.org, someone would take it for parts and you'd get more than the scrap weight since its an aluminum block. I'd help you yank it if you were closer. Good practice since I'd like to swap to a 6sp at some point.

[96stgreendemon]

sounds like it could be a transmission problem honestly, could of warped the flywheel when he ran through the big ass puddle. this could be why the motor seems locked up, in know from experience that a bad transmission/flywheel can really piss off an engine

[Neon90424]

If I was there I'd totally give you a hand with taking apart the engine... come to think of it im in hinsdale lol just noticed ur in illinois

just checked the map! holy crap 320 miles lol

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jan 12, 2012 - 8:19 PM

[Bitter]

sounds like it could be a transmission problem honestly, could of warped the flywheel when he ran through the big ass puddle. this could be why the motor seems locked up, in know from experience that a bad transmission/flywheel can really piss off an engine

Not so much with an automatic.

[richee3]

sounds like it could be a transmission problem honestly, could of warped the flywheel when he ran through the big ass puddle. this could be why the motor seems locked up, in know from experience that a bad transmission/flywheel can really piss off an engine

Could very well be. It's worth checking out. I may start pulling the motor tomorrow if I don't have anything else going on. If I do, I'll pull the motor and tranny apart. Or it might be like Bitter said, might not be anything since its an auto. However, a flex plate is thinner than a flywheel so it could warp or bend easier.

If I was there I'd totally give you a hand with taking apart the engine... come to think of it im in hinsdale lol just noticed ur in illinois

just checked the map! holy crap 320 miles lol

Lol yeah, I'm in the forgotten half of Illinois that isn't anywhere near Chicago. Not in Paraguay at the moment? If it wasn't 320 miles, I'd say a meet would be cool, 7th gen engine pull or not.

[Neon90424]

Come out here every winter for christmas! No car, no friends, just family lol. Bought a ****load of tools this winter so I can do my own work on my gt4...got the whole manual cheat sheet might as well save on mechanic fees and get my mechanic gloves dirty lol.

yeah it would be cool if it wasn't that far, Infact I wouldn't even mind the drive except I have no ride lol...everything is off limits to me...sucks. I got to ask permission just to blow a fart around here...

I also get to suffer 0 updates from my mechanic and 1 picture of just a bunch of parts... :S If ur not on them they don't work...which screwed my deadline because the car had to go and get the diff cushion changed bumper body panels and paint and the CF hatch has to get the glass transplanted...I wish I could clone myself

[richee3]

Yeah, paying for a mechanic blows. I've figured out that a Philips screwdriver and a 12mm socket can virtually completely disassemble a Celica, so there's no reason to pay a mechanic for most things. I wouldn't mind driving there, but it'd be hard to get the 7th gen there, so it would defeat the purpose. How long are you there? Surely there are a few 6gc members close to you that you could set up a meet with.

[Neon90424]

I fly back on the 22nd so in a week practically, ive seen a couple celi's around some I'm sure there is someone around here.

[richee3]

I'm pretty sure bloodMoney is only like 15-20 minutes away from Hinsdale, and then there are a few other members in Chicago but I can't remember who right now. Enderswift I know for sure, but I'm having trouble remembering who else.

[Bitter]

Not in Chicago, but about an hour south.

[bloodMoney]

All of us are pretty localized. 4eyedfreek and Shigexile are in Schaumburg I believe, Driver is in some southwest suburb and I'm right by the Airport (O'Hare)

I actually had my car taken apart last night in Schaumburg to replace the water pump, timing belt and oil pump seals (which are still leaking )

[richee3]

Did you get it fixed?

[Neon90424]

funny as how my st205 has never really had an oil or water leak... :S tranny leaks tho

[bloodMoney]

I fixed the water pump leak.

For some reason, the oil pump is still leaking.... I just ordered a new front plate for the motor, oil pump already attached. I'll go up to MI and fix it there next weekend. I hate how I'll have to pull the oil pan though.

[richee3]

I fixed the water pump leak.

For some reason, the oil pump is still leaking.... I just ordered a new front plate for the motor, oil pump already attached. I'll go up to MI and fix it there next weekend. I hate how I'll have to pull the oil pan though.

You should kill the prick that gave you that motor >:(

Good thing I live a safe distance away!

I still know where you can get a 7th gen at a great price! Then you can work on that and pretend like Abby is all good.

[bloodMoney]

What kills me is that if I had done some research this past summer, I could've just replaced the front plate w/oil pump while it was still warm out and avoided all this mess....

I also just found out that I can get employee pricing on the Mitsubishi of my choice (excluding the EVO). I'm thinking AWD + 4 doors = new daily?

[Bitter]

They're nice cars, I have a friend with a Lancer (FWD N/A) and it seems well built, as do the other more recent Mitsu I've worked on.

[richee3]

Chris- As much as I love Celicas.... Do it! Evo FTW. I'll be honest, Brigette and I test drove an '06 WRX a few days ago. I really just wanted her to get a feel for boost, but it turns out I kinda like the car. Might've bought it if it wasn't "Look at me!" red. I prefer my "Look at me!" blue Lexus. Still might be interested though. Warranty, AWD, slightly better has mileage... Can't go wrong.

I just now realized how far off topic this thread has gotten Back on topic, everything is more or less official. I'll be driving 150 miles per day for work, but I'll be getting extra money for it. I'm thinking this Celica looks great. Way better of a work car than my IS 300. Use the extra money, fix the Celica, have a semi-fun gas sipper. After that, my nephew might buy either my Lexus or the Celica, but he might not. In the meantime, I'll have 4 days off starting Sunday and with high's near 60, the weather looks great to start tearing this car down.

[Neon90424]

good luck with tearing that thing apart man and... 150 miles, are you haulin moonshine? holy crap...thats 240 kilometers...

everyday I feel my country gets smaller and smaller lol its 330km from the capital to the biggest border city.

[richee3]

Nah, no moonshine though I think it would be profitable to run moonshine to where I work. I'm in mine construction. Any time coal mines want to sink a new slope or air shaft, they hire companies like mine. The company I work for is one of the biggest in the country. The work isn't easy but it pays well. It finds my BEAMS addiction. BEAMS are like crack to me. I'm already 40 miles one way from my job site and 40 miles one way in a different direction from the girlfriend's house, so I spend an insane amount of time driving and an insane amount of money on gas. The lady and I talked about it and we decided to move somewhere nicer and I would transfer job sites, but my boss bribed me nearly $1,000 a month to stay where I'm at and drive the distance. Taking that into consideration, I have a great car sitting in my yard. It's cheap on gas and kind of a beater do if anything happens, it isn't a big deal. I see no reason, apart from the effort it will take, to not get this car running.

Besides, my parents prefer 7th gens. Losers. Pfft.

[Neon90424]

hahaha sounds like you got it all figured out man happy for ya, if you want gas mileage, my sis's new corolla ...jesus on cruise at 55mph it gets over 42 mpg easy

[richee3]

hahaha sounds like you got it all figured out man happy for ya, if you want gas mileage, my sis's new corolla ...jesus on cruise at 55mph it gets over 42 mpg easy

You know what I've noticed? Toyota is bent on putting their Hybrid Synergy Drive in every single vehicle they sell. They make it no secret that they fully intend to have a hybrid option of every vehicle they sell- yet they haven't put it in the Corolla... Guess they're afraid that the Corolla will kill Prius sales. I'd be fine with never seeing another Prius clogging up the highways.

Is it possible to jack my own thread? I think I just did.

This post has been edited by richee3: Jan 18, 2012 - 11:47 PM

[Keiri]

hahaha sounds like you got it all figured out man happy for ya, if you want gas mileage, my sis's new corolla ...jesus on cruise at 55mph it gets over 42 mpg easy

You know what I've noticed? Toyota is bent on putting their Hybrid Synergy Drive in every single vehicle they sell. They make it no secret that they fully intend to have a hybrid option of every vehicle they sell- yet they haven't put it in the Corolla... Guess they're afraid that the Corolla will kill Prius sales. I'd be fine with never seeing another Prius clogging up the highways.

Is it possible to jack my own thread? I think I just did.

They did put the HSD in a Corolla Dan - the HS250h was a Corolla-based Lexus hybrid. It was killed off due to poor sales though.

[Neon90424]

the guy at the dealer said they did the tests to see how much driving it would take you to make a difference in gas mileage for the higher price of it... 18 years he said...lol.. comparing the dollars you save in buying another car...8 grand goes a long way.

[richee3]

Brian, I checked out the HS250h. It looks like the HS uses a 2.4 liter, whereas the 'Rolla still uses a 1.8. Had Lexus used the 1ZZ, they would have a gas mileage machine on their hands. The CT200h is the closest thing they've got to a hybrid Corolla right now and it barely does any better than a Corolla, if I remember correctly. They could do so much better...

Corolla > Prius

So I've more or less decided this car isn't worth my time. I don't reay like 7th gens all that well, nor do I want to spend any more money on this car or put any work into it. Next week, I'll be living an hour and a half from the car. I don't want to drive that far to work on a car I don't care about. I'll be stripping the car of a few things and getting rid of it. For the money I would spend on this car, I'd rather buy something that already runs. I might just trade the IS off for something more fun or something a lot more fun that gets better gas mileage.

[Bitter]

Let me know what you're going to part off it.

[richee3]

Let me know what you're going to part off it.

Anything small and easily shipped. Large items will be local pickup only, but I can drive a certain distance for serious buyers. You still need the 3rd brake light, seats, or anything? The intake definitely needs a new air filter and silicone couplers but the pipes are still good and the price is pretty much make an offer.

[Bitter]

Let me know what you're going to part off it.

Anything small and easily shipped. Large items will be local pickup only, but I can drive a certain distance for serious buyers. You still need the 3rd brake light, seats, or anything? The intake definitely needs a new air filter and silicone couplers but the pipes are still good and the price is pretty much make an offer.

That depends on your prices, but I do for sure want the upper air box. How many miles were on it? I might also take some other parts. PM me what you're looking to get and I'll let you know what I'll take at those prices.

[richee3]

As of today, this car has a new owner. Since I traded the IS for the Z, I've been a lot less interested in this car. I listed it on Craigslist a few days ago and surprisingly, sold it pretty quickly. I still wish I could've fixed it up but I have no time or extra funds for a new project. So this has been sold to provide funds for the 6th gen project.

[SwissFerdi]

Damn guy, the cars you've gone through in the past few years...