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post Jun 4, 2012 - 6:20 PM
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Hello guys

My car makes noises like a cv axle is failing but a bit different.
This is only happening when I am turning fast and will using the gas pedal, or when I fall in a pothole.
That which is weird is that if it was a cv joint problem then I will be able to hear the clicking when the car is take of while the steering is left or right.
So I am thinking is it possible to need to replace my swaybar bushing or the endlinks?

What do you think guys?

I have replaced my left cv joint but it still doing this also the sound I think it comes form the left but not sure.
post Jun 6, 2012 - 1:36 AM
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wheel bearing??


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post Jun 6, 2012 - 4:03 AM
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wheel bearing, usually a humming sound and is determined whether you turn left or right
tie rods, ball joints, endlinks sway bar, yea any suspension can make noise
cv joint - usually clicking sounds especially on a turn

sounds like anything so you need to do a process of elimination. don't worry look at all your front suspension. let us know your observations.


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post Jun 6, 2012 - 12:16 PM
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Thanks for your feedback I will check it when I have time and I will tell you!
post Jun 6, 2012 - 12:17 PM
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Not necessarily on the wheel bearing only "humming"
Whenever my wheel bearing has went (been througha bout 4 on this car" you could physically feel the knocking through the floor with every rotation.


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post Jun 6, 2012 - 4:20 PM
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true, humming is not my best sound example thats why i put "usually". Basically its a sound that follows the acceleration like a hum or helicopter i guess and its bad side is determined by whhich way you turn. for some reason the knocking thing i've heard of on here but never experienced that in any car personally, mostly the loud bearing noise due to acceleration and suspension load on the bearing.

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post Jun 7, 2012 - 8:29 AM
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Sounds like ball joint or CV joint to me.

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post Jun 7, 2012 - 9:59 AM
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Naw CV joint is basically clicking on turns. Basically he needs to check everything i mentioned or related to suspension on his front end. sounds more like wheel bearing because of the fast turns part when load transfers to the bad side. cv would make the sound left or right even if you are turning slow. but again who knows, we can only throw out ideas out there because we can't see it personally, GL with finding it out. Does it require acceleration, can it be heard when the car is lifted, you may need to provide more info.


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post Jun 7, 2012 - 2:19 PM
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This actually happens when etc I am turning aggressive and I accelerate while my steering system is still on an angle.
It also happens when i fall in small potholes while I am going relatively fast.
For more info I will tell you when I will find some time so I can lift the car and check it better, but from the last time
I had lifted my car up to check it I didn't found any wheel play or other loose ball joint. Also I had on my car a professional
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post Jun 7, 2012 - 4:00 PM
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sway bar bushings?


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post Jun 7, 2012 - 4:24 PM
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Well this is what I am thinking sway bar bushings and rods.
But again I have to check it at weekend to be sure.
Is it possible to have any part of the suspension worn but it won't appear any play?
post Jun 7, 2012 - 4:41 PM
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if it were your tie rods you would have felt play in your wheel, you can grab the tire rod also shake it, it should move or make a sound if its bad. sway bar bushing could make a sound if its worn, and if its really gone, it makes like a clank. endlink is easy to tell if its gone. lower ball joints if really bad can make sounds too. Theres 3 ways to know if something is bad, physical inspection, grab it or use the necessary tool to check for looseness, and finally if it makes sounds. check everything i said originally, its really easy if you need more help just let us know what you've checked so far. you can't really assume whats bad, you actually have to really check it. sometimes you gotta replicate the sound if you could.

wheel bearing (for this, is the sound when turning right only or left or both)
lower ball joint
endlinks/sway bushings
check for loose bolts/nuts everywhere (may need to be retorqued)
inner/outer tie rods
axles (maybe idk)
doublecheck motor mounts (if shaking)
sounds crazy but doublecheck the tightness of your lugnuts
do you get shaking in your steering wheel during that moment or all the time?
are you sure its coming from the front?

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post Jun 8, 2012 - 5:54 AM
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This post has been edited by trdproven: Jun 8, 2012 - 5:55 AM


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post Jun 16, 2012 - 8:29 AM
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I have checked my wheels play and they seem pretty good I din't find something in my car that appear to be loose. The only thing I observed is that there is a small gab between the sway bar and the bush about 1mm or maybe 2mm.

I can hear the noise when I turn aggressive and step on the throttle the same time under left turns and it is most possible comes from the front left side of the car. I will also try to replicate the sound again with a co driver so he will confirm were the sound comes form, but I believe I am correct.

The noise is like clicking almost like a cv joint. I already changed my cv joint though at the left side and the right is fine since my mechanic checked it when I replace my tranny so all the cv joints are greased with new cv boots.

Is it possible to be the wheel bearing although there is no wheel play?
And if it's the left bearing then I think the noise of it would be present at right turns if I am not mistaken.

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post Jun 28, 2012 - 8:06 PM
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wheel bearing sound is very significant like you are driving a helicopter or like a bicycle that has a card flapping in the spokes.


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post May 7, 2014 - 2:07 AM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Jun 28, 2012 - 9:06 PM) *
wheel bearing sound is very significant like you are driving a helicopter or like a bicycle that has a card flapping in the spokes.


Well I think that should be it, it is propably my wheel bearing. What keep me back of replacing it is that there is not appear to be the sound of a worn bearing at regular driving so, I will wait more time to replace it and give feedback.
post May 7, 2014 - 2:55 AM
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post May 16, 2014 - 11:56 AM
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A service guy on a YouTube video gives an easy way to 'feel' a bad wheel bearing, just by spinning your tire while holding you hand on the coil spring. It's a quick way to know if that's your problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzB-V8CrSn8
post Jun 10, 2014 - 5:32 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 7, 2014 - 3:55 AM) *
wowzee after 2 years, what a bump


I know... I just don't use my car that much, I have my car 8 years now, but I only covered 5000km total!
I jack the car at my friends garage (his dad is mechanic). We have checked the car but nothing seems to have play.
It's probably the bearing though since that happens on extreme weight transfers when I steer left and all the load is on the front right wheel.
I have more important things to fix and I m really tight on budged, since I have no Job.
I just felt that maybe there are people who wan't to know more.

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post Jun 10, 2014 - 5:48 PM
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QUOTE (Langing @ May 16, 2014 - 11:56 AM) *
A service guy on a YouTube video gives an easy way to 'feel' a bad wheel bearing, just by spinning your tire while holding you hand on the coil spring. It's a quick way to know if that's your problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzB-V8CrSn8


Thank you very much for the input, the thing is that thing sounds only on right turns, and only when I steer sharp at the right, so that the car is almost full lock, and all the weight of the car, transfers on the front right wheel. Otherwise it 's fine , no sound or roughness nothing!!! So I won't do much more, until I fix my steering pump, that leaks bad. I believe the bearing is starting to wear. End links have checked and no play on them, shocks, top mount, gearbox has been replaced, clutch also, cv joints also changed.and have less than 2000km on them.

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