What are some thing I can do to keep my interest in my Celica? Options

[1994Celica]

Well I'm getting bored of my car. I want to to be faster, and just more fun and rewarding to drive. I want to know if there's anything I can do to improve it to keep my interest in the car.

[Special_Edy]

No there is nothing you can do to make it faster or more fun. There is nothing you can do to improve it or keep your interest in the car.



How about checking out the "My Projects" section of the forums, it'd be the best place to start

[Box]

Sell it for something with a V8. My plan anyway.

[zfjohnson07]

Sell it for something with a V8. My plan anyway.

was thinking the same thing or get a supra!

[Chovies]

was thinking the same thing or get a supra!

I wanted a supra until one day when i was driving i saw this really nice one coming the other way ( nice clean bodykit+ good exhaust tone ) and then it drove past and a fat middle aged women was behind the wheel.

Just can't bring myself to driving one now...

[jordisonjr]

Boooooost

[trdproven]

boost or get a swap.

[Taz]

was thinking the same thing or get a supra!

I wanted a supra until one day when i was driving i saw this really nice one coming the other way ( nice clean bodykit+ good exhaust tone ) and then it drove past and a fat middle aged women was behind the wheel.

Just can't bring myself to driving one now...

That could be the owners mother ha

[Neon90424]

nitrous

[richee3]

I lost interest in mine once too. My solution: I drove something else for a while. Trust me, you'll REALLY want your aging, slow, oversteering, but cherished Celica back. As strange as it sounds, the 6th gen Celica just has a certain "feel" that other cars just can't match. Of course, boosting and swapping are great options to give the car the power you want. However, both cost a lot of money and if we all had that much money, odds are we wouldn't be tinkering around with Celicas. My advice: Freshen the car up. New struts, ball joints, tie rod ends, polyurethane bushings, sway bar end links, take the seats out and steam clean everything, etc. You get the idea. It'll still cost a good bit of money, but it can be done one day at a time. Even if your car still feels good, there's room for improvement by replacing aging parts. Plus it's a great feeling to replace parts yourself then take the car for a drive and be able to feel the results. It's also cheaper than car payments. When you are finished fixing everything up and you still aren't interested in the car, all of the new parts are an excellent selling point.

[Chinosan89]

You can always start doing body work. I personally started cleaning my engine bay and thinking about colors to paint it when I got bored. It's inexpensive and keeps you personalizing it. Hell even if I'm cleaning my car or changing brakes, I just like workin on it (to an extent)

[soulshadow]

Get a Honda.

[finalate]

Get a Honda.

**** Honda who is this guy .

This post has been edited by finalate: Jan 17, 2013 - 9:30 AM

[C-Lara]

I like richee's idea.

To add on.
If your thinking of buying a mk3 or older supra, then I'm sure you will be running into more problem's than you bargain for. The celica offers many bang for your buck options compared to others.
Because its an older car, there will always be room to restore old parts. Fresh Aftermarket or oem parts will make your car that much better nd more appreciated.
Its rare to see a clean celica on the streets ,that's why I recently purchased one. That and it strikes me as baby supra lol

I'm actually excited to get my celica project started lol

This post has been edited by C-Lara: Jan 17, 2013 - 9:46 AM

[czwalga]

Turn it into a rally car. It's never boring.

This post has been edited by czwalga: Jan 17, 2013 - 10:25 AM

[Special_Edy]

Strap a couple of jet engines or a flux capacitor on it and call it a day.


If you do install the flux capacitor, the rocket engines or a 3sgte are a necessity to reach 92 mph. The 7a and 5s are too weak to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts

[jordisonjr]

Get a Honda.

No.

[Box]

Strap a couple of jet engines or a flux capacitor on it and call it a day.


If you do install the flux capacitor, the rocket engines or a 3sgte are a necessity to reach 92 mph. The 7a and 5s are too weak to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts

It's 88 mph, GAH.

[Special_Edy]

Strap a couple of jet engines or a flux capacitor on it and call it a day.


If you do install the flux capacitor, the rocket engines or a 3sgte are a necessity to reach 92 mph. The 7a and 5s are too weak to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts

It's 88 mph, GAH.

Still, you'd have to be going downhill in a hurricane to do that in a 6gc

[Box]

They're not that bad. I've gotten mine up to somewhere above 80 when I shouldn't have.

[SwissFerdi]

Strap a couple of jet engines or a flux capacitor on it and call it a day.


If you do install the flux capacitor, the rocket engines or a 3sgte are a necessity to reach 92 mph. The 7a and 5s are too weak to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts

Wish the officer had known this when I was ticketed at 97.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 17, 2013 - 6:06 PM

[stephen_lee]

i second the v8 part....

i sold the celica and got an LS400...

oh and the cop just watch my fly by at 155+
of course it was on a closed course and he was watching out of curiosity

[kurt95gt]

Strap a couple of jet engines or a flux capacitor on it and call it a day.


If you do install the flux capacitor, the rocket engines or a 3sgte are a necessity to reach 92 mph. The 7a and 5s are too weak to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts

It's 88 mph, GAH.

Still, you'd have to be going downhill in a hurricane to do that in a 6gc

Maybe in your 6gc
My 5a has no trouble hitting 100mph

[FrankB2]

I test drove a 2005 Chrysler Crossfire this afternon. Cured me of not appreciating mt '97 Celica vert......QUICKLY! The Celica runs circles around that car in terms of handling and comfort.

[mkernz22]

Well I'm getting bored of my car. I want to to be faster, and just more fun and rewarding to drive. I want to know if there's anything I can do to improve it to keep my interest in the car.

Having a standard would definitely keep you more interested in the Celica.
Buying an automatic was your first mistake

I swapped mine from auto to manual and now I never get bored of her.
No matter how slow and under powered she might be, no matter how many problems might occur from her age, and no matter how bored of her I might get when I'm not driving her, as soon as I sit in that seat, start her up, and drive away, I always seem to fall back in love.
Even if she is slow, she handles so nicely on curvy back roads.

[soulshadow]

Get a Honda.

**** Honda who is this guy .

The guy who has a Honda but still drives a Toyota Camry LOL

[black13]

I lost interest in mine once too. My solution: I drove something else for a while. Trust me, you'll REALLY want your aging, slow, oversteering, but cherished Celica back. As strange as it sounds, the 6th gen Celica just has a certain "feel" that other cars just can't match. Of course, boosting and swapping are great options to give the car the power you want. However, both cost a lot of money and if we all had that much money, odds are we wouldn't be tinkering around with Celicas. My advice: Freshen the car up. New struts, ball joints, tie rod ends, polyurethane bushings, sway bar end links, take the seats out and steam clean everything, etc. You get the idea. It'll still cost a good bit of money, but it can be done one day at a time. Even if your car still feels good, there's room for improvement by replacing aging parts. Plus it's a great feeling to replace parts yourself then take the car for a drive and be able to feel the results. It's also cheaper than car payments. When you are finished fixing everything up and you still aren't interested in the car, all of the new parts are an excellent selling point.

lol so true. But it has to be a ****ty car usually.

I drove a Saturn for a month while I was working on my celi and boy that first drive after it was done was just priceless. Although driving anything after a Saturn is an improvement.

[Box]

Meh, I rather have a car with superior power over handling. In a perfect world you get both, but that costs a decent amount of money. Unless you live on a majestic mountainside, car with good handling doesn't really get much use. All the roads where I live you can take at above speed in a truck of all things. So, yeah... Give me power.

[FrankB2]

I live in Bucks County, PA. We have lots of twisting roads along hillsides (too small to be mountains), and that Chrysler Crossfire I drove yesterday revealed itself as a highway car almost immediately. I knew it was made in Germany, and its steering reminded me of the first Mercedes sedan I drove back in the late 70's: DULL, DULL, DULL. We even had the top down, and it was still dull. It had power once you punched it, but I need steering to go with those fries. I got back in my Celica, and was instantly at home.

I like the idea of gently fine tuning and fixing up a Celica. Mine was bought very clean, but I've added a HU with DVD and satellite radio. I wax it often (spray on stuff and sometimes liquid), and the black interior keeps my vacuum busy. I'd like to add some larger wheels, but wonder if that will effect the car's handling on twisty roads...

5 minutes from our house, and miles and miles of the same!



This post has been edited by FrankB2: Jan 18, 2013 - 9:43 AM

[njccmd2002]

Its normal to loose interest. See here is the situation. When i bought my car and I logged here, everyone was doing something, and sparked my interest. but now only a few and between are swapping, and stuff. Life is full of challenges. I had to buy a 1st gen, and that and ps3 has diminished my time to my vert. So i lost interest. I set it under some covers and is still there. Every now and then i work on it. and its fun.. The good thing is i have a daily driver to use in the mean time.

I have tought of selling, but i put too much sweat in it, sometimes i want to do another swap, but i have no time. So its on stand by.... I have decided to finish the 1st gen this year, then work on the 6th gen...

[Wolfsting]

Buy an MR2 Turbo
Although my celica aint slow, jdm ftw

[6strngs]

I lost interest in my celica once, so I sold it and I've had several cars since then, but yet, here I am with a 6th gen celica again... They really do just have a certain feel to them that most other cars don't. Honestly, if you don't have the know-how or resources for a swap or turbo though, it won't be fast, but most other "tuner/import" cars out there require a similar amount of money/know-how to be fast too so do your research before you buy anything else if you decide to sell the celica. For example, I had an alltrac, put a few bolt ons to it, and it was faster than a 6gc, but I wanted it faster and the thing holding me back was the turbo, well the cheapest turbo kit for the power I wanted was like $2k so I didn't do it. Same story for my WRX... Same story for my celica GTS... Same story for my miata, except, I actually will eventually turbo that, lol. So, my advice is look on some forums of some other cars you've been looking at and see how hard it is to tune them before you buy one.

I live in Bucks County, PA.

Small world, most of my family lives in Bedminster and my parents grew up there.

[PaukST]

I lost interest in mine once too. My solution: I drove something else for a while. Trust me, you'll REALLY want your aging, slow, oversteering, but cherished Celica back. As strange as it sounds, the 6th gen Celica just has a certain "feel" that other cars just can't match. Of course, boosting and swapping are great options to give the car the power you want. However, both cost a lot of money and if we all had that much money, odds are we wouldn't be tinkering around with Celicas. My advice: Freshen the car up. New struts, ball joints, tie rod ends, polyurethane bushings, sway bar end links, take the seats out and steam clean everything, etc. You get the idea. It'll still cost a good bit of money, but it can be done one day at a time. Even if your car still feels good, there's room for improvement by replacing aging parts. Plus it's a great feeling to replace parts yourself then take the car for a drive and be able to feel the results. It's also cheaper than car payments. When you are finished fixing everything up and you still aren't interested in the car, all of the new parts are an excellent selling point.

lol so true. But it has to be a ****ty car usually.

I drove a Saturn for a month while I was working on my celi and boy that first drive after it was done was just priceless. Although driving anything after a Saturn is an improvement.

Haha! QFT about the Saturn, I just picked up a 5speed Saturn SL1 to drive while fixing my Celica. Haven't started fixing the Celica yet, so sometimes I still drive it. It's like lightning comparitively.

[Neon90424]

crash derby car

[PizzaGuy01]

...Unless you live on a majestic mountainside, car with good handling doesn't really get much use...

Or unless your a driver for pizza hut covering the whole downtown of San Antonio!.. if I were to ask James Bond which non-$100k car he would use, I KNOW he would pick a Celica

[SwissFerdi]

Car with good handling doesn't really get much use.

Disagreed, good handling to me speaks of a proper car, and that always has use. 95% of my driving is 45~ MPH city streets, and I utilize me handling daily, just depends on which corners can be taken swiftly. That's the best part of the 7A. it can be flogged while remaining at legal speeds.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 20, 2013 - 11:59 PM

[doctavic]

Car with good handling doesn't really get much use.

Disagreed, good handling to me speaks of a proper car, and that always has use. 95% of my driving is 45~ MPH city streets, and I utilize me handling daily, just depends on which corners can be taken swiftly. That's the best part of the 7A. it can be flogged while remaining at legal speeds.

I agree completely with Ferdi

[tto010]

They're not that bad. I've gotten mine up to somewhere above 80 when I shouldn't have.

ive had mine 7a @ 160km/h (100 Mph)

[Box]

Car with good handling doesn't really get much use.

Disagreed, good handling to me speaks of a proper car, and that always has use. 95% of my driving is 45~ MPH city streets, and I utilize me handling daily, just depends on which corners can be taken swiftly. That's the best part of the 7A. it can be flogged while remaining at legal speeds.

Read in full context. 95% of my driving is at 55 mph on straight pieces of highway. So handling capabilities is irrelevant.

[SwissFerdi]

Fair enough, but my statement stands.

[1994Celica]

Well I'm getting bored of my car. I want to to be faster, and just more fun and rewarding to drive. I want to know if there's anything I can do to improve it to keep my interest in the car.

Having a standard would definitely keep you more interested in the Celica.
Buying an automatic was your first mistake

I swapped mine from auto to manual and now I never get bored of her.
No matter how slow and under powered she might be, no matter how many problems might occur from her age, and no matter how bored of her I might get when I'm not driving her, as soon as I sit in that seat, start her up, and drive away, I always seem to fall back in love.
Even if she is slow, she handles so nicely on curvy back roads.

Yeah I didn't have much choice though. It was my first car and my parents who helped me buy it insisted I had an auto. If I had the time I would love to swap it to a manual, but I don't.

[momentai99]

Strap a couple of jet engines or a flux capacitor on it and call it a day.


If you do install the flux capacitor, the rocket engines or a 3sgte are a necessity to reach 92 mph. The 7a and 5s are too weak to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts

It's 88 mph, GAH.

Still, you'd have to be going downhill in a hurricane to do that in a 6gc

I go 88 in third all the time 0.o just shift at 6k and have fun. got it up to 140 no problems. it's quick with small modifications. My camaro will literally do circles around it but it has a certain feel like everyone says.

[momentai99]

I live in Bucks County, PA. We have lots of twisting roads along hillsides (too small to be mountains), and that Chrysler Crossfire I drove yesterday revealed itself as a highway car almost immediately. I knew it was made in Germany, and its steering reminded me of the first Mercedes sedan I drove back in the late 70's: DULL, DULL, DULL. We even had the top down, and it was still dull. It had power once you punched it, but I need steering to go with those fries. I got back in my Celica, and was instantly at home.

I like the idea of gently fine tuning and fixing up a Celica. Mine was bought very clean, but I've added a HU with DVD and satellite radio. I wax it often (spray on stuff and sometimes liquid), and the black interior keeps my vacuum busy. I'd like to add some larger wheels, but wonder if that will effect the car's handling on twisty roads...

5 minutes from our house, and miles and miles of the same!

Holy crap, im from bucks county originlly. where are you at?

im residing in the mountains outside of pitt right now and handling out here is a must

[Box]

Fair enough, but my statement stands.

Well naturally. Never disagreed with you. It's sort of like power in the same regard. If all you do it putt putt around town doing errands never exceeding 35 mph, you don't need 300+ hp. Right now I'd be be better off with something that got better mpg, or something I'd really like to drive. I'm the world's pickiest person, so there's no guarantee I'll like the next car either.

[SwissFerdi]

Well naturally. Never disagreed with you. It's sort of like power in the same regard. If all you do it putt putt around town doing errands never exceeding 35 mph, you don't need 300+ hp. Right now I'd be be better off with something that got better mpg, or something I'd really like to drive. I'm the world's pickiest person, so there's no guarantee I'll like the next car either.

I guess call it reasoning with the the heart over mind. The 7A is dead reliable, and that's great. It also can do 38mpg, that's the most I've squeezed out of mine. Unfortunately, the glory of those numbers starts to dwindle with such a low bhp output, as a car with this power and weight should be getting over 40mpg. I've seen you say you're cheap, I hardly doubt your next car will prove less fussy than an ST.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 26, 2013 - 8:45 AM

[Box]

That's my big problem with the Celica. Honda Civic of the same year, power, and weight absolutely kills it in the mpg department. The Hell? I'm cheap by nature, but if it's something I enjoy I don't mind spending money on it. For example I have more invested in musical instruments than I do my car. I'd be happier now with either a Civic for the mpg, or something performance oriented to be able to enjoy. Just one of those cases of hindsight being 20/20. If only we had gotten the SS-III or GT-Four, oh well.

[trdproven]

in regards to if you have nothing else to fix up interior, exterior, engine bay, the only thing left to do is race it or keep changing stuff out. Other than that, everyone with any car will get to that point sooner or later.

I guess there are a bunch of factors why people would lose interest: financial problems, lack of aftermarket support or availability, newer cars coming out, seeing other peoples cars, getting beaten by other cars, lack of potential basically without spending lots of money, car is always breaking.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Jan 27, 2013 - 6:26 PM

[1994Celica]

I've been thinking a Miata would be better than my Celica. I've always liked them plus RWD is just better.

[Box]

I've been thinking a Miata would be better than my Celica. I've always liked them plus RWD is just better.

But then everyone will question your sexuality. I've on and off thought about the Miata before, then I remembered it only has some 110 horsepower.

[richee3]

I can think of another girly car that only has 110 hp.

[Bigblock]

Just give it to me!!
You will feel fullfilled with yerning to do a good deed in helping another Celica fan!!
No more worries of boerdom!!!
JK JK!!

[1994Celica]

I've been thinking a Miata would be better than my Celica. I've always liked them plus RWD is just better.

But then everyone will question your sexuality. I've on and off thought about the Miata before, then I remembered it only has some 110 horsepower.

I would probably go with a 1.8 which has 130ish so its not far off from the celi. I know some people think of it has a "gay mans car" or whatever but I honestly don't care.

Just give it to me!!
You will feel fullfilled with yerning to do a good deed in helping another Celica fan!!
No more worries of boerdom!!!
JK JK!!

I would actually like to sell it to a forum member. That way I know it's going to someone who appreciates it.

[Box]

I'm currently selling mine.

Who cares what people think. EVERY car has some negative view of it, so just get one you like.

I'm getting a manly car with 300 horsepower. Sad when you think about it, that's almost three times what I currently have...

[njccmd2002]

once u sell close acct and never come back!!

[Hirogodsend]

once u sell close acct and never come back!!

^This

[Box]

Whatever you say person that bought something aside from a Celica.

[6strngs]

I've been thinking a Miata would be better than my Celica. I've always liked them plus RWD is just better.

Well, it's probably the most fun car I've ever had, I say go for it!

Btw, after I gutted my miata, put a lightweight flywheel and and intake and exhaust, it's probably faster or at least as fast as my celica, hard to say since the celica is just all low-end torque with no top end and the miata is the opposite. I'd definitely recommend a 94+ so you get the 1.8L motor instead of a 1.6, a 7-inch rear diff instead of a 6-inch, and bigger brake rotors. I've already upgraded to 94+ brakes and rear end, and now I'm playing with the idea of getting a 1.8 swap so it would've been cheaper just to get a 94+ to begin with...

[Box]

LS1 swap yo. Now that's a Miata I'd like to own.

[6strngs]

LS1 swap yo. Now that's a Miata I'd like to own.

I've gotten a ride in an ls2 miata, let's just say traction was non-existent

[Box]

Traction is over rated, like brakes or air bags.

[1994Celica]

Well I've thought about it for a long time and I'm just going to keep my Celi. I just love it too much to get rid of it. I'm going to use the money that I would have used to get a new car to upgrade it. I'm going to upgrade brakes suspension, and make a nice GT-4 clone.

[Box]

I like the Celica too, but I also know for what I'd dump into it I could just buy a better car anyway. Again different strokes for different folks. Nothing wrong with either way of going about it. If I had ludicrous amounts of money to throw away I'd build a Celica for the ****s and giggles, but since I don't I won't.

[njccmd2002]

> What are some thing I can do to keep my interest in my Celica?

keep away from ^^^

[Box]

Meh, you just don't like that I speak with truth and reason. Hmm, dump money into an ECONOMY car or go out and buy a real PERFORMANCE car. Oh dear the choices to be made.

[njccmd2002]

^^^ not lying here

[Tigawoods]

I had a talk with my friends last night about this.
Since this was my first car, I have more of an emotional connection to it. (as do they with their 240's which are their first cars)
I started modding it from when I got it, and I dont think I could ever mod a car to the point I have modded the celi, I feel like im getting too old to go for all this car crap (I just want it to run haha). I believe I wont ever again have a car this heavily modded, this took 8 years to get where it is.

[cheela]

> What are some thing I can do to keep my interest in my Celica?

keep away from ^^^

best advice yet.


but glad the op is keeping it. if you don't have money just do small mods and save up for bigger mods later on.

[Lil-Joe101]

Could always do what I'm doing. Move to Afghanistan for nine months, order an ass load of parts while you here, and just wait tell your told to come home. I'm sure by that time you can't wait to get back working on her

[Box]

If that's what you like than by all means do it. It's your money, your life, and your car. I thought about doing a 1MZ-FE swap with mine, but by the time you figure in parts for the swap and the original cost of the car you could just buy a car that's faster stock. Not to mention if you ever went to sell the modded car you'd never see that money again. I personally don't see the point in doing such myself, I still think it's cool though. All the 3S-GTE, BEAMS, and 1MZ-FE cars are awesome along with the work you put into them. I still think you're crazy for spending that kind of money though. It's any car though, so don't take it personal. Like people who swap V6 F-bodies and Mustangs, why not just sell yours and get a V8 car? So, it's hardly just me targeting the Celica. I like the Celica, I still feel it's the best of the small Japanese cars in regards to handling and build quality. If you think I'm bad here, just hear me talk about the Honda crowd...

[rave2n]

If that's what you like than by all means do it. It's your money, your life, and your car. I thought about doing a 1MZ-FE swap with mine, but by the time you figure in parts for the swap and the original cost of the car you could just buy a car that's faster stock. Not to mention if you ever went to sell the modded car you'd never see that money again. I personally don't see the point in doing such myself, I still think it's cool though. All the 3S-GTE, BEAMS, and 1MZ-FE cars are awesome along with the work you put into them. I still think you're crazy for spending that kind of money though. It's any car though, so don't take it personal. Like people who swap V6 F-bodies and Mustangs, why not just sell yours and get a V8 car? So, it's hardly just me targeting the Celica. I like the Celica, I still feel it's the best of the small Japanese cars in regards to handling and build quality. If you think I'm bad here, just hear me talk about the Honda crowd...

Sometimes I think you are the only one that understands your logic. No offense of course, we are all entitled to our delusions.

[1994Celica]

If that's what you like than by all means do it. It's your money, your life, and your car. I thought about doing a 1MZ-FE swap with mine, but by the time you figure in parts for the swap and the original cost of the car you could just buy a car that's faster stock. Not to mention if you ever went to sell the modded car you'd never see that money again. I personally don't see the point in doing such myself, I still think it's cool though. All the 3S-GTE, BEAMS, and 1MZ-FE cars are awesome along with the work you put into them. I still think you're crazy for spending that kind of money though. It's any car though, so don't take it personal. Like people who swap V6 F-bodies and Mustangs, why not just sell yours and get a V8 car? So, it's hardly just me targeting the Celica. I like the Celica, I still feel it's the best of the small Japanese cars in regards to handling and build quality. If you think I'm bad here, just hear me talk about the Honda crowd...

I guess that is true. With the amount of cash I'm about to put into it, I could have something faster,more practical, low miles,etc. There's just something about the Celica that makes me want to stay with it. It's the same with my Porsche 914. It's slow as hell, has rubbish build quality, but I love it because it just feels special and unique. Eventually I will get into something else but for now I want to stay with it.

[cheela]

If that's what you like than by all means do it. It's your money, your life, and your car. I thought about doing a 1MZ-FE swap with mine, but by the time you figure in parts for the swap and the original cost of the car you could just buy a car that's faster stock. Not to mention if you ever went to sell the modded car you'd never see that money again. I personally don't see the point in doing such myself, I still think it's cool though. All the 3S-GTE, BEAMS, and 1MZ-FE cars are awesome along with the work you put into them. I still think you're crazy for spending that kind of money though. It's any car though, so don't take it personal. Like people who swap V6 F-bodies and Mustangs, why not just sell yours and get a V8 car? So, it's hardly just me targeting the Celica. I like the Celica, I still feel it's the best of the small Japanese cars in regards to handling and build quality. If you think I'm bad here, just hear me talk about the Honda crowd...

built not bought, that's all it is.

[rave2n]

For the money I've spent, I feel I've invested well with my money.

The last new vehicle purchase in my household was a 7 year loan, for 17k. Was not a performance car, was a Toyota Yaris.

I have not invested 17k into my Celica, and I never will. Max will be 10k. So when I'm done the swap, and all the exterior bits I should be around 8-9k. This is excluding some maintenance because every vehicle has it. I've spent 7k less, have a low mileage drive train, all new suspension, basically a completely refreshed vehicle that is faster, powerful, more fun, and what I like. Still cheaper in my opinion to build it up yourself, if you aren't going for a crazy track vehicle.

Saving and learning at the same time, hard to beat that. Specially with newer vehicles being a bit more complicated nowadays to ....tinker with.

Oh and I don't change my car to get a return profit. If I put something on it, only I like, I do not expect it to create value, even though I paid with earned income. Value is in the eye of the purchaser.

This post has been edited by rave2n: Mar 13, 2013 - 1:51 PM

[Box]

My logic makes perfect sense, 1994 even said so. Spend 5k on a modded Celica, or spend 5k on a stock Trans Am or 300ZX that'll still kick its ass? New cars are always a bad buy, let someone else lose their ass on it. My thing is you should start with a fast car and make it faster, not start with a slow car and then try to make it fast. More power to you if you want to take the difficult path. Built vs bought, does it really even matter? What kills me is when these "BUILT NOT BOUGHT" people had all their work done by a shop. Yeah, way to go BUILD that car... I personally know people that've spent well over 20k just in parts on their import or euro cars only for a stock LS1 Corvette to kick its ass. Where's the logic in spending 20k on that car only to get murdered by a car that costs 15k in stock trim?

This post has been edited by Box: Mar 13, 2013 - 2:54 PM

[delusionz]

Lol I see built not bought everywhere, but all I see is body kits and rice tacked on . Should say "Riced not Diced" as I don't see a single thing built at all.

Technically only a couple people on here have built their cars such as Czwalga, Jmeyer, Pipes, etc

People like me, Neon, etc who start out stock standard and have our cars built in shops to our own specifications there is nothing wrong with that, that is how we get cars that we want because the flipside is having your project turnout like Needles.

[Box]

People like me, Neon, etc who start out stock standard and have our cars built in shops to our own specifications there is nothing wrong with that, that is how we get cars that we want because the flipside is having your project turnout like Needles.

That's fine and there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't have "BUILT NOT BOUGHT" decals on it.

This post has been edited by Box: Mar 13, 2013 - 5:12 PM

[SwissFerdi]

Saving and learning at the same time, hard to beat that.

This.

As for Mr. Box's gripes, I can understand, and that's the reason I'd rather put my money into something that gives a guaranteed daily return, beneficial at all speeds - handling optimization.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Mar 13, 2013 - 7:06 PM

[Box]

Yeah, new cars are just pure evil. OBDI and before thank you very much. I've on and off thought about swapping, but then there's all the other work that goes with it aside from the drivetrain. Would have to upgrade the brakes, especially the rear drums. Then that means bigger rims and tires. It goes on and on. Where as I can buy a car that was meant to go fast from the factory, have OEM reliability, and be content with minor modifications like exhaust. I'm not the only one, and there's nothing wrong with building a car either. It just isn't financially and logically viable for me. Also it's not like I'm holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to sell their cars instead of building them, just trying to get them to consider things from all angles. I've been there and done that with the whole project car thing once too many times, and after three times I finally learned my lesson. Don't want others to make the same mistakes I did.

[mkernz22]

let's see, 500-600hp Celica that still gets 15-20mpg or more....or a V8 with 500-600 and getting 10ish mpg? I think I'll go with the Celica lol

[Box]

let's see, 500-600hp Celica that still gets 15-20mpg or more....or a V8 with 500-600 and getting 10ish mpg? I think I'll go with the Celica lol

That statement is so flawed. A LS1 Camaro/Firebird, GTO, or Corvette gets better mpg than a WRX Impreza of the same year. Or any other turbo 4 or 6 cylinder for that matter. Real good examples are the 300ZX, 3000GT, RX7, and Supra. They get way worse than a V8. Don't believe me just look it for yourself on the government fuel economy site or Edmund's.

PLUS, the new C7 Corvette will get well over 30 on the highway. V8's getting bad mpg are a thing of the past, and it has been for some time now.

Not to mention, that 600hp V8 is a hell of a lot more reliable than a 600hp I4. Also torque steer from being FWD, so on and so forth. Oh and lag...etc...

This post has been edited by Box: Mar 13, 2013 - 9:09 PM

[rave2n]

A LS1 Camaro/Firebird, GTO, or Corvette gets better mpg than a WRX Impreza of the same year.

new C7 Corvette

I see the major problem here.

You like those cars. I don't.

I don't care how much power they have, it will always feel like I'm driving a tank, and will remove my enjoyment from such. Power isn't everything.

[Box]

So, the Corvette being five inches longer than the Celica and having superior handling makes it a tank? Do tell.


This post has been edited by Box: Mar 14, 2013 - 5:16 PM

[rave2n]

Feels. Felt.

After looking up the C7 you have a hard on for.

Yea, car looks amazing. Light, lots of power, and superior handling. Excellent, go buy one. I'll wait...

This post has been edited by rave2n: Mar 14, 2013 - 6:18 PM

[Box]

Even the 1984 C4 with the Z51 package was capable of 1G on the skid, which I was referencing to the C4. Which is the one I'll be getting. Give me a couple of years and I'll have a C7.

[rave2n]

Even the 1984 C4 with the Z51 package was capable of 1G on the skid, which I was referencing to the C4. Which is the one I'll be getting. Give me a couple of years and I'll have a C7.

I know, but...why don't you own any of these? They are obviously your preference.

I like a few other cars, but I don't spent any of my time and effort trying to convince others of my OPINIONS.

[Hirogodsend]

We have Celicas, that's what we choose to drive. This is a forum for Celica owners. The whole complaining about you car is getting kinda old. If you want a trans-am or a 300zx by all means go buy one. Just please stop the constant complaining about your car. I love my Celica, I always have. I drive it because it's the car I want. One of the main appeals to me is that it stands out, and I love the way it drives.

[Box]

I'm working on it, my Celica is up for sale as we speak. Also, I'd hardly call the accolades of numerous prestigious automobile editorials to be mere opinion. I like the Celica, I just like other cars more. Tough love.

If I'm lucky I'll be gone by the end of the month and everyone can rejoice.

[Neon90424]

you are not gonna pay ur rent uh oh

[Box]

Had to sorry.

I know no car is perfect, I guarantee I'll be on a Corvette or F-body forum bitching about something there. Think I'm bad about cars let's not get started with musical instruments. Every car I've owned I found something to be wrong with it, and ended up selling it. They were all cars with cult followings of their own. At times I think I'm just too picky for my own good.

[rave2n]

At times I think I'm just too picky for my own good.

^^This.

And btw I don't think anyway declared you need to disappear. If so, that is not my personal intent.

I enjoy some of your posts, and often see you addressing new members. There is positive to your stay here so far, its just the complaints about our Celicas.

Most of us are aware of the limitations and potential of our vehicles, it just seems you focus to much on limitations.

I used to argue everything, and be just as cynical as you. Its goes away in time.

[RabidTRD]

I know I'm joining this late, and didn't feel like reading the plethora of BS shenanigans that some members choose to post, so I'll say what I'm doing to keep myself from buying an MR2.

The American 6GC is not designed to be fast. You can make it fast... but that also leads to reliability issues. Personally, I decided to route my focus towards aesthetics. Already had fun with the Koni yellow's and Eibach's... but now I'd rather have a lower, more stanced look. So, I'm changing my direction from making it a quick car, to making it a fun, slow car lol. Being slow can be fun too... it's all in how your head is screwed on. I drove my friends slammed Jetta and loved the feeling of being so low and wide. I've never seen a 6GC around here with the picture I have in my head as a setup
Idk if this scene is right for you, but it's definitely one route for making yourself more interested in your car..

Make yours original, do what YOU want with it and do little things here and there. The first thing I had to do to it was to make the interior MINE. It's where you'll be spending most of your time (unless your a swap head, who spends most of his time under the hood. Huhuhuhu) and deserves the most attention IMO. That's why I spend the money on the gauge, cluster bezels, carbon fiber shifter, leather, brake handle, and the LED kit. Now that I've got it to where I want it, I'm focusing on the exterior.

One thing that can be said about the Celica; the driving experience around the city and around the twisties is something I've never felt in another car. It's unique. It had sat for 2 years without being run, cleaned, or moved. I opened it up, cleaned out the spider webs, checked the oil, put a battery in the back and tried. First crank, no result. Second crank, it made some noise. Third, it started right up and kept running on 2 year old fuel. The thing had a spunk to it and a personality... I might just be a sentimental softie, but this car was fantastic.

I've driven a Miata too, and it was a first gen, first production run, #150+/-. I could only smile while driving it. I might have looked gay or like someone in midlife crisis, but I was happy. The Miata is an experience all to it's own, just like the 6GC. Something about having the open top with the rear axle right behind your, rwd, and the smallness of the thing just felt right. That's part of the reason I want an MR2. (for the rwd and smallness) But I don't see myself selling or getting rid of the 6G. If I do, I'm almost positive I'll buy another lol.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Mar 15, 2013 - 2:00 PM

[SwissFerdi]

The Miata is an experience all to it's own, just like the 6GC.

This, and the rest too, most of it anyway. There is a soul to the Celica, undoubtedly. An A4 has twice the power and doesn't give me the same kicks.

[njccmd2002]

At times I think I'm just too picky for my own good.

^^This.

And btw I don't think anyway declared you need to disappear. If so, that is not my personal intent.

I enjoy some of your posts, and often see you addressing new members. There is positive to your stay here so far, its just the complaints about our Celicas.

Most of us are aware of the limitations and potential of our vehicles, it just seems you focus to much on limitations.

I used to argue everything, and be just as cynical as you. Its goes away in time.

i just like to troll him

[Box]

^^Nice self shot^^

Yeah I know posting the negatives isn't going to get much love around here, but like I said it's just how I am. I seem to find the bad in everything... For the sake of comradery I'll stop as I've said all that needs to be said. I wish I could find it, but I had a HUGE list of things I was going to do the Celica when I first got it. I was ecstatic about the car. I'm that way with every car at first, and other things... I just lose interest quickly in things. I still like the Celica, and still enjoy driving it(when not gunning it in a straight line). I've just fallen out of love with it, that's all. I guarantee whatever the next car is it'll happen to an extent. The only car I really miss is the MKIII Supra I had, but even it I had issues with. Too heavy and not enough power though, like the Celica, it handled great. I'll stick around I suppose, even if I do go domestic.

This post has been edited by Box: Mar 17, 2013 - 10:43 PM

[mkernz22]

I've driven a few other cars; mustangs, subarus, vw's, honda's, etc.
Even after I drive them, I just can't wait to get back and drive my celica.
Though the stangs and subies might have more power, I just love the feel of the celica more. I did get a nice big smile on my face the first time I drove a turbo'd car, but it wasn't because of the car, it was because of the turbo and how it made me want one on my car haha
There's just something about the Celica that I love and makes me fix her up after something goes wrong.

[saleenvic]

Even the 1984 C4 with the Z51 package was capable of 1G on the skid, which I was referencing to the C4. Which is the one I'll be getting. Give me a couple of years and I'll have a C7.

Corvette's are the best bang for your buck,, very pretty cars but I think the part that ruins them for me is that every so often I'll see older women driving them. I don't know if its just me but it just completely kills it for me. Absolutely nothing against them, if you can afford it and daily drive it great. Even with Porsche's. Living around DC, they're a dime a dozen. I'm hoping in the next 2 years buy a house and once I have a place with a garage I'll be in the market for a factory five gtm supercar - just being different.

[Box]

From my understanding more old ladies drive Celicas than Corvettes. Who cares though. I enjoy driving the Celica too, until a minivan flies by you. If the car was in Prelude and Type R territory power wise I'd keep it. That's really my only issue with the car. Makes you wonder what the Hell Toyota was thinking at times. They had the BEAMS, shame they never brought it over stateside.

[njccmd2002]

[6strngs]

For the sake of comradery I'll stop as I've said all that needs to be said.

From my understanding more old ladies drive Celicas than Corvettes. Who cares though. I enjoy driving the Celica too, until a minivan flies by you. If the car was in Prelude and Type R territory power wise I'd keep it. That's really my only issue with the car. Makes you wonder what the Hell Toyota was thinking at times. They had the BEAMS, shame they never brought it over stateside.

power shmower. I have a story about my 90whp miata and a 400hp ferarri 360 spider... but I know this forum frowns on street racing so I won't tell it here...

[Box]

Sure, that's like a three hundred pound man winning against a track sprinter in a race. Something went wrong with the sprinter.