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I noticed your new sig, whats goin on
![]() did somethin go wrong with the swap? I wouldve PM'd you but im sure everybody else wants to know too. -Chucky -------------------- ![]() |
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yeah what is going on, i couldnt wait to see it completed.what went wrong.
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It's just a total nightmare. I'm constantly bitter and angry because of the swap, and all I ever hear are constant lies from my mechanic.
It's been nearly five months, my car still doesn't move, and now my entire paintjob is ruined. What parts haven't been actively destroyed by getting hit with chains, tools, or other cars by my mechanic are ruined anyway from sitting under snow and sap and stuff for over two months. My entire paintjob is now all bubbled, scratched, and looks bad. ![]() In addition, my mechanic is still expecting me to pay him fully, and expects me to pay for the damage that he caused to my car. When asked about what happened to my fender, he replied "Oh, it got hit with a chain when we were moving a car...but you were gonna get the front repainted anyway so it doesn't matter." ![]() I'll probably pay the necessary money to get my car out of there once it's finally finished if it's ever finished, and then I'll come back with a laywer and a re-paint estimate and tell him he needs to pay for my car to be repainted...if not, we can deal with it in court. Right now I've gotta head to class, but after class I'll post up my swap journal. I'll leave you guys with a photo of my fender. ![]()
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
don't give up! you're an inspiration to all of us
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I'm actively waiting for the journal lol.
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Ya man hang in there.
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
Sigh....
Late May, 2003 - I ask a local shop named Auto Boogie about swapping a twenty-valve AE101 4A-GE into my Celica. "Yeah, no problem. I do swaps all the time. It'll take a week tops." was the response I got. Convincing the parents to let me do the swap began. Comments such as "C'mon mom, it's a smaller engine." and "It's cheaper than replacing piston rings, valves, synchros, and getting a new clutch." helped at this stage. Finally, I got the "ok" from my parents. Early July, 2003 - AE101 4A-GE engine, tranny, ECU, harness, axles, AFM, ignitor, and power steering accessories ordered from Storm Performance. July 23, 2003 - Engine and tranny and harness arrives one week later than I was told it would. No ECU, axles, AFM, ignitor, or power steering accessories yet. After a phone call, one week later, the ECU arrives. July 27, 2003 - The tranny is taken off the 4A-GE engine, and the clutch has about 40% left, so we decide to replace it anyway, while everything is apart. We pull off the spark plug wire cover to look at the spark plugs, only to find that the engine has no spark plugs. We decide to pull off the valve cover, only to find dirty oil and oil sludge everywhere. A leakdown test confirms that this engine is dead. The number one cylinder holds no pressure whatsoever, due to a fried piston ring and intake valve we believe. We decide to call Storm and trade them engines for one that will actually run well. Late July, 2003 - Replacement parts for engine ordered. OEM parts include timing belt, idler pulley, water pump, distributor cap and rotor, front and rear main seals, spark plug wires, and flywheel bolts. Other parts include a Clutch Masters stage one clutch kit, a JUN chromoly-steel lightweight flywheel, and NGK iridium spark plugs. July 30, 2003 - A phone call is made to Storm Performance, and another engine is shipped out. August 2, 2003 - The second 4A-GE arrives. This one looks much worse on the outside, but inside, it's far better. At this point, Storm Performance tells me that I can keep the old engine, because they have no use for a dead engine. August, 2003 - All of the various parts arrive, except for the engine components that I ordered from Storm Performance with the engine, such as the axles, AFM, ignitor, and power steering accessories. September 3, 2003 - Car goes into the shop. September 17, 2003 - The 7A-FE is pulled, and part of the engine bay is painted. At this point the car is ready to have the twenty valve 4A-GE put in. I ask if they can have the car done in two weeks, and they say that they definitely can have it done. October 4, 2003 - Two weeks later, the car isn't done. Auto Boogie says one more week. October 10, 2003 - I go home from college to look at the car, and the engine still isn't in the car. Additionally, I still haven't recieved my axles, ignitor, and power steering accesssories from Storm Performance. Multiple voice messages on their phones, and multiple emails are sent, none of which are replied to. Fortunately, the stock axles can be used for the swap. Auto Boogie makes a promise to me. They say that if my car is not completed by the end of next weekend, the labor will be free. October 13, 2003 - I finally get a reply from Storm Performance. They tell me that they'll send me my axles immediately, and tell me they'll send me more information by email about the other parts, but they never do. October 18, 2003 - The engine is in, but the car still isn't done. In fact, despite the lies from Auto Boogie saying that the wiring was going well, it hasn't even been touched yet. Also, the A/C isn't hooked up, and power steering isn't hooked up. After talking to Storm Performance, they tell me that I need to pay extra money for my AFM and axles, yet it was originally included in what I paid for earlier. November 2, 2003 - The car's labor should now be free, but the car still isn't done. More excuses are given by Auto Boogie as to why my car isn't done. November 7, 2003 - I call Auto Boogie, and they tell me that my car can't be completed, due to various issues with the throttle cable, A/C, power steering, and wiring. My car is now completely undrivable, and there is no-where else to take my car in the town that I live in. I figure that it will need to be towed to a town two hours away to get the remainder of the work done. November 8, 2003 - My parents pick me up from college and take me to Auto Boogie. I talk to Auto Boogie, and they say that they in fact can do the swap. They were lying about not being able to finish the car so that they would not have to do free labor! Also, they damaged the paint on my rear bumper by apparently running my car into a red car or running a red car into my car when moving it around! After talking with Auto Boogie for a while, I agree to pay them $500.00 to have the car completed by January 1, 2004. At this point I drop off my old wheels and tires so that Auto Boogie can put them on to ensure that my nice wheels don't get damaged. November 26, 2003 - I come into town for Thanksgiving break, and I stop by Auto Boogie only to find that they haven't even touched the car since November 8, when I was last there. December 10, 2003 - My dad goes in to talk to Auto Boogie. At this point the car hasn't been touched in over a month, and is sitting outside. Auto Boogie's reply to my dad when he asks if it will be done by January is "Hey, I've had some cars in the back for a year and half." My dad goes on to say that I can't and won't have my car down for a year and a half. Auto Boogie eventually says that it will be done by January 1st. December 17, 2003 - My car still sits outside, and is now covered in snow and ice. After finally getting a hold of Auto Boogie, they assure me that my car will be in the shop by the end of the week. December 22, 2003 - It's the beginning of the next week, and the Celica still is sitting outside covered in snow and ice, still sitting on my nice wheels and tires as well. I call Auto Boogie and ask them to stop lying and tell me when it will actually go into the shop, and they say that tonight it will go into the shop. December 29, 2003 - The night of the twenty-ninth, the car finally goes into the shop, after many lies and sitting under snow and ice for a long time. December 30, 2003 - As the deadline of the first of January approaches, I go into the shop to look at my car. At this point, the entire car's paintjob, which is less than 14 months old, seems damaged, though I can't be certain until the car is cleaned. The car looks exactly like it did on November 8, 2003, and at this point, no work has been done to the car since then. The nice wheels and tires are still on the car, and when asked why, Auto Boogies says they never had time to put on the old ones that I dropped off. January 2, 2004 - This was the day I planned to tow the car to a different shop. When I go into Auto Boogie to tell them that I'm taking the car elsewhere, I am shocked by the fact that a lot of progress has been made on the car. A lot of the wiring had been done, the exhaust was done, and a lot of the new parts were on the car. I decided to let Auto Boogie finish up the car in a week, like they said they could. January 16, 2004 - The morning of the sixteenth, I called Auto Boogie and they said it'd be done for sure that weekend, so I made the long drive home and came and looked at the car. It had progressed further, but was still far from finished. Lots of wiring still had to be done, the power steering and A/C and throttle accelerator cables still had to be dealt with, and the belts and pulleys had to be mounted onto the engine. Speaking of pulleys, Auto Boogie had lost my pulley for my water pump, and I had to go get the old pulley off of the dead AE101 4A-GE engine because of Auto Boogie's incompetance. Also, Auto Boogie managed to damage my paint again, this time by hitting my front-left fender with a chain and putting two 1cm-diameter paint chips in the paint. January 19, 2004 - Auto Boogie called me and said that they need more detailed wiring information in order to complete the swap. They also realized that my engine harness didn't come with the igniter, which is necessary for the swap. So I called Storm Performance, and finally got a hold of them. They told me that they'd send my axles and igniter the next day. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Coomer my dad says bring it to seattle and he will help you with everything!
-------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bangkok, Thailand. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Sorry to hear about this frustrating swap, Coomer.
![]() ![]() If possible, maybe you should find a more responsible mechanic to finish the job. Does your current mechanic really know what he is doing ?? ![]() I think five months is an age for an engine swap. |
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
Thanks for the sympathy and help guys. I just got off of the phone with Mark from Storm Performance, and he says that he'll send out my ignitor today via Fedex Ground. Once that arrives, my mechanic said it'll take a day or so to finish the swap up. If it takes any longer than a week after that arrives, I'll probably bring a laywer and a tow truck down to the shop to pick up my car and take it to Seattle.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 3, '03 From South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Coomer I feel for you
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Yeah my dad said we can take it up to Mulkiteo at Nicks 99 have them get the parts and get someone to do it and you wont have to worry about if its done right cuz the people have done these swaps before
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) ![]() |
This is what I think you should do, or this is more like I would do. Get the car the hell outta there. Pay the mechanic for the work he DID do, but subtract what you can calculate as the damage. Dont pay this guy, but pay the mechanic that did the physical swapping of the engine. If he threatens court, or a law suit, I dont think you really need to worry because he screwed things up and you paid him for what he did do.
Take the car home, and finish it yourself. It may take awhile, it maybe a pain in the ass, but u'll feel better about having the car near you, where it'll be more protected. You probably already have, but talk to people who've already done this swap, im sure they'll help. This maybe no help but I think that is what would be best. Unfortunately I cant really help its not an engine im familiar with and im on the east coast so physically coming to help isnt feasible or else I would. I'll try to gather any information i can on this but im sure u've already done that, but still. It was more than 5 months that my car was out but I was working on it and I knew it was ok. -------------------- |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 12, '03 From Chatham, Ont Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I think you should write him a bad cheque
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
ohh god! im sorry to hear about all that. PLEASE PLEASE tell me you dont pay this guy for anything! I hate to say this but take his A$$ to court and have him fix all the paint damage, and after the massive delays from what was planned i dont think he is entitled to any form of payment. obviously he told you he was qualified for a job he clearly wasnt, and in light of this, im sure it would be much more rewarding to pay a lawer a good fee to insure that your mechanic dosent see a single penny. Just my two cents...
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
I'll try not to pay him, but I guarantee he'll want full payment before I can take my car away, so I'll probably just pay him, and then end up in court later.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Dude, I wouldn't do that if i were you. If you pay him, then he has won. You can't take him to court if you agree to pay. Once you've signed that little paper, the court will say "Sorry, that's your signature. You agreed to the terms. There is nothing we can do." Go get your car with your lawyer WITH YOU!!! Usually just the intimidation of court will sway the situation to your side. Hold of. Call your lawyer first before anything and see what can be done about this so when you DO go in there you have ALL the answers!!! Good luck man ![]() This post has been edited by Uriel: Jan 21, 2004 - 7:16 PM -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 5, '03 From Grapevine, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Definitely dude, a lawyer threat is so simple and does so much. My mom had an engine blowout with her old MX-3 V6, the Mazda dealer swapped a "brand new" one in, yeah, right. The engine light came on after 1,000 miles, and they had given her an almost $5k bill. She called her lawyer (a client of her's), the lawyer wrote a letter, the fine was waived, and the car repaired within about a week.
A threat is all you need at this point, because if it's taking them this long to do something he said on multiple accounts would "only be a week", then that's unfair practices (or something like that). -Brian |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 12, '03 From Chatham, Ont Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Well like I said man, just right him a cheque and make sure it bounces, that way when he asks for the money you can just be like "oh by the end of this week for sure" and then you can tell him "well I took my car to the body shop and its gonna be $2000, Ill just take that outta what I owe you. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
LOL. Yehp, had this same problem with a shop. I was going to do the ST185 3SGTE swap over the summer. They say they can get it done in two weeks. Two weeks go by after every part needed is there, and they still don't have my car in the garage. Another two weeks go by and it's sitting in the parking lot, but when I went in to ask...immediately they took my keys and pulled it inot the garage saying sorry and that they were starting work that day. I told them no they weren't...I went to my lawyer's office and informed him further of the situation and he went with me. We got my car out, and my refund for the $400 downpayment of labor. So I got my $400 back and I sold the clip to the shop i now go to (the one that did my ECU and Torque Converter) and they said they'd find a use for it and bought it for me for $300 less than I bought it for. So yeah I was out $300, but in the end I used the money I was going to use for swap and used that to make a downpayment on my RX7...sucks it got stolen but with the money I got from that I bought an older RX7, an older Supra...and upgraded both of those as well as paying off the grand I owed on my Celi. All in all, a lawyer helps!!!
![]() -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
Why dont you just post his phone # here and we all can talk to him.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
we should have a big ass group ride everyone just start driving and start meeting up and end up at that guys shop... when he see a around 1000 6gc we all scream out you have 4hours to fix it or you get your ass kicked...
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 22, '04 From bellingham, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
um, what i would suggest is to see if he can finish it in the next 2 weeks (end of the month).... if not, take action then
if they do finish, drive around and see how it feels.... then even if you're satisfied, i would take it to another mechanic and see if they believe it to be good work or not.... then if they don't like it, take some sort of action..... but if needed to take it to another place try Maxx Autoworks in Federal Way, they know what they're doing (along with the owner JT being an old all-trac owner and now supra owner)... they charge a bit more, but it's worth the money..... that, or let me know and i'll talk to my "contacts" about seeing if you can get any help from them |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I count my self luck tha I have a reat mechanic but in ou case I feel for ya. I file suit against his ass.
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
Just to update you guys, a week ago I was promised that my ignitor would ship from Storm Performance. Today I still didn't get it, so I called them, and they told me that it hadn't shipped because he had to go find one. The funny thing is that when I called nine days ago, he told me he had one in his hand right then and would ship it the next day.
![]() I told them they needed to ship it overnight to me, but they wouldn't, so I think they're sending it via Fedex Ground or US Priority Mail today. I asked them to send me a tracking number via email when it ships later today, but I highly doubt that it'll happen. ![]() Also, I talked to two laywers yesterday. The first, who was highly recommended, told me that he takes his cars to Auto Boogie, so he wouldn't represent me as it would be a conflict of interest or something. The second laywer told me that since I have nothing in writing I should just take my car elsewhere and file a claim with Auto Boogie's insurance. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) ![]() |
JEEZ, not getting any breaks, wish i could help i feel like crap bout it all.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '03 From Vancouver, Canada! Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
screw the free labour idea they gave you... if you have pictures of the car before it went into the shop and after.... sue them to get the car re-painted....
ask for a written explanation of the shape of the car from the paint shop. you can sue the guy for the damage he cause.... but nothing he promised if it wasnt in writing.... it sucks....i know i have $1000 damage on my car from some guy jumping on it...the cops even arrested him! but its gonna cost me over $1000 to take him to small claims.... bah! so it's not worth it for me This post has been edited by wind: Jan 29, 2004 - 3:50 PM |
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Or we can throw a few molotov cocktails thru his windows of the shop
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
I called Storm Performance a minute ago and finally got a hold of them, and apparently my ignitor didn't ship yesterday as promised, but it did ship this morning supposedly. I've heard that three times with my axles though, and I still don't have them, so we'll see.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I'm w/ mac.. group ride sounds like fun. Sorry all of this had to happen to u coomer. It'll all work out eventually.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I wanna go to Washington anyways sometime...so why not make it now...I'm packing my bags tonight and leaving at 6am...I need your address...
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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LOL! You know.... I would do something to his shop... sadly. I am really not a person to be like that, but my friend, he is givin it to you prison style. Don't let him. Go get something in wrighting, or tell him... something. Pay me $250 and I will fly to Washington and tell him I'm Johnny cockran's estranged white son and he'd better watch out. ![]() (I'm really sorry this is happening to you. Take a paintball gun to his house or something....) Jon |
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If he is on the phone with all of us he will NEVER get it done,,,wait til after his car is out of that shop ![]() |
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I second that, ya know you could get together a nice lil gang and make him get that car done right fast.... Who wants to make up the YelliCelli Mobsta's
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yo coomer, whats anyting new?
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print that journal in court, prove sh*t to the judge using your website
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What's new? The situation has gotten much, much worse.
![]() I was in town this weekend because I was promised that the car would be done, but of course, it wasn't. Instead, I found a new large mark on the door, and found out that one of my nice wheels is scratched. What really irritated me was that I dropped off my old wheels months ago and my mechanic said he'd put them on so that my nice wheels wouldn't get damaged, but he was too lazy to even do that! ![]() The other day, he called me and told me that he couldn't finish the swap again, due to not having some information. So I called my friend, and he talked to his buddy who's really good with engine swaps and stuff. He said it wouldn't be a problem to finish my car up, but then he went down to Auto Boogie, looked at my car, and said that it was messed up beyond repair and that he wouldn't even touch it because of what my mechanic had done to it. ![]() So I called my parents, only to find out that they won't let me go to court, because they're worried about insurance finding out about the swap. Also, they think I deserve this for doing an engine swap in the first place. ![]() Everything is just going downhill right now... ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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That is just a bad situation. On the bright side...even though it's hardly existent herer, we all know not to do business with Auto Boogie.
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This is where your good ole pal--Mr. 12 Gauge comes in handy. :D
Good luck in whatever happens. -Brian |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
Coomer- Check with insurance, but I think most companies are okay with having a swap. It shouldn't change your insurance, I talked to my statefarm agent, and he not only said that it wouldn't change my insurance rate, but if I kept all the reciepts, whatever work I put into it would also be insured.
Check with your insurance company, it might not be a problem, then you can take them to small claims. also, I've found sometimes just a letter from a lawyer is enough to scare some people into giving you what they owe you. Good luck man! -------------------- ![]() psalm 69 |
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He has a point... most insurance companies dont care, or dont know enough to care. And anything that is "permanently installed" is insured, grant it you have full coverage
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Why you had no reason to declare to the insurance company the swap was done untill it was compleated and you where gona put it on the road. No laws where broken.
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I just called my insurance company and asked if they'd insure a '94 Celica with the AE101 4A-GE engine swap, and they said it wasn't insurable.
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*explative here* im really sorry coomer
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It's alright man. I just don't know what to do now. It seems like the whole world's against me right now, and there's not a thing I can do. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i know what to do!
Now taking donations for the Coomer needs a new 6gc fund!! -------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
how about coomer needs to fix his current celica fund....
and id be down for a little donation, was kinda thinking of starting something like it up myself. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
yup, I'm 100% down for donating a couple bucks, I'll just go without beer for a night
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Man I would freakin fly up there and help you fix the damn thing if I had the time. Seriously you give me a date and I will be up there in no time. After that I say we pay a visit to mister "Booger" and give him a little verbal abuse. Anyways this really sux for you Coomer that was an awesome car. I'm really ready to come up this isnt an empty offer.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) ![]() |
ok, not to be an ass, but one of the biggest reasons to do a swap is to pay less insur, i mean compared to a wrx that comes with the same power, there not goign to know the diff between an engine in there , they'll never see it, unles its totaled an be like um,.... that how i got the car.. |
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I know, I don't plan to tell them about it. My parents are thinking though that if I go to court, my mechanic's insurance will get involved, and then they'll contact my insurance company regarding some stuff. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
are we seriously gona start a fund?
its to help the man that brought all of us together! we really should. |
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You guys shouldn't do that. I'd feel bad taking money from you guys.
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haha, we're leaching money off you... wait till tax times.... and send me a few more mp3s!!! lol -------------------- i am awesome
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
why would their insurance contact yours? when you think about it, your insurance has no need to be involved in this. its not like your neglect ruined the car. i would speak with a real lawyer before getting shafted hard on this. sorry for the double post -------------------- i am awesome
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
I think I'm going home later today for the weekend, so maybe I'll be able to talk to my dad's friend who is a really good laywer and see what he has to say. I know he deals more with criminal law, but hopefully he can point me in the direction, and maybe he can talk to my parents as well, since he's a friend of the family.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
ohhh you would be surprised what they know. my dads friend that was involved with divorce law got me out of a couple of traffic tickets (completely unrelated to divorce law) no problem. This post has been edited by Andason: Feb 27, 2004 - 5:22 PM -------------------- i am awesome
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined May 8, '03 From San Jose, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Man, this is CRIMINAL. Maybe we can go in on a lawyer and both sue our shops. Mine owes me about $3k and an engine rebuild ($5k total). - Aaron |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 27, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
First, I would like to just congratuations on this site. I admire the civilised community that inhabits a small corner of the cyberworld. Keep up the good work everyone!
Although I do not own a 6th generation Celica, I nevertheless browse these forums from time to time. This topic, which was raised by a friendly poster, struck a cord with me and therefore I have decided to (i) get registered and (ii) post for the first time. I hope you all don't mind me taking up a little bit of virtual space. Back to this topic - I recommend commencing with legal proceedings however small. However, before you do this, you should obtain some evidence which I am sure it is easy to get as he seems to a serial liar. Once you have all the evidence (photographs, tapes, etc), you should start writing letters to the company (if you can, find out the legal name of that entity) (i) confronting him of the problem and (ii) ask him to remedy the situation by a set date, informing him if no remedial action has been taken, you will take this claim to the small claims tribunal. Such a letter (of which you keep a copy) proves to the adjudicator that you are acting reasonable which provides a better chance of success for you. There should be a variety of places as someone suggested (e.g. small claims court) which should help you. I appreciate that your parents are scared of your insurance but I cannot see how this repair is related to your insurance. Even if your insurance finds out you have done a swap, all they can do is cancel your insurance contract. It doesn't affect the damage that the repair shop company actually has done to your car. In other words, your insurance should not have any effect on you going to court. Obviously, I agree that you should talk to your dad's friend but in the end, I really do think you should take some sort of proceedings against. It would be a shame to let such a repair shop get away with it as I am sure they have got away with doing this for such a long time. The Reader. |
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![]() no doubt coomer, im sure just like your project this is gunna be an uphill battle, but at what point did ya think any of this would be easy? dont give up man! weve all still got faith, plus i bet you could print off some of your earlier posts b/c they are time stamped as to evidance that you arent just making it all up. -------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Thats exactly what I wanted to say but dint have the right way to express it. The Reader is amazingly anonamous, and well spoken hah shame he doesnt post more
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wow I just read the whole story and I have to say that justice will prevail. Coomer i got mad respect for you and your tragic ongoing story. Remember that no matter what happens, your story will be a legend and you will look back thinking: I owned them crooks that messed up my car. Good luck and hang in there. Celica For life.
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
Over the past few days, my mechanic decided to work on my car again for some reason, and it's even closer now. The AFM and ignitor are completely wired, and the power steering is completely ready to go now.
Last night/early this morning the car was supposed to start, as when I called last night, my mechanic was checking over every wire at the ECU to ensure that everything was correct. But I never recieved a call from my mechanic. I'm going to call after class today and see what he says. There's a chance that I could be going home tonight to pick up my car, but I highly doubt it'll happen. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i hope she gets done... i know you beeing waiting for what feels like forever....and take alot of pics for us.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
Sweet, just take it easy the first few days
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I just got off of the phone with my mechanic. Two plugs at the ECU checked out completely. The third plug is giving him a bit of trouble, but he's working his way through it.
Also, the radiator is in. All hoses and vacuum lines are hooked up. The sway bars are on. Just about everything mechanical is worked out, and it's mainly just some wiring issues that are holding up the swap right now. There's a chance that the car will be done tonight. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 5, '03 From Grapevine, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Very badass. We want pics and everything. Get it dyno'ed after a while too!
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I'll be sure to post tons and tons of pics. And I'll get it dyno-tuned hopefully this summer once I get something like a S-AFC2 to tune the air/fuel ratio. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 3, '04 From Hollywood, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) ![]() |
That sucks man you got shafted, thats why its always nice to have a family mechanic
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
I just got off the phone with my mechanic, and he said the wiring is done, or at least he thinks so.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
Nice to hear that Coomer, really really nice
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '03 From arlington tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
WOW!! I just stumbled across this post, and after reading the threads, I am becoming very scared to do my 3sgte swap :-/ I will be crossing my fingers for you. ...man I need to go to sleep.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Swaps are easy...hell, my mechanic had some trouble marrying a new 5SFE into my car...which I still don't have back. I had a dream about it last night though, me, my car, an R33 Skyline, a MKIV Supra, and a 300ZXTT...those were three cars and I could pick one to drive until my car was done. It was neat.
Edit: MY BABY IS READY I JUST GOTTA GO PICK HER UP! This post has been edited by Akimbo: Mar 4, 2004 - 12:07 PM -------------------- |
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
Woo hoo! I just heard the engine start and stay running for a few seconds!
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
great to hear that.. sound clip please
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 29, '02 From San Diego CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Sweetness you know youll have to post many pics and sound clips at WOT!
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
sounds like the yelli celli is almost finished
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
talking to coomer a week ago you would have thought he was never going to drive the celi again... Good to hear that its almost done.
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
It's alive! It's alive!
![]() I came into town tonight, and when I went to Auto Boogie, Josh, my mechanic, started the car right up, and it stayed running. ![]() It's now running, but there's an exhaust leak near where the 4-2 part of the header meets the 2-1 part of the header that will be fixed tomorrow. Also, we have to get a heated four-wire 02 sensor so that the car runs correctly. Those things, a couple more mechanical things, tidying up the wiring, and putting everything back together and the car should be able for me to take. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Thanks GOD
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Good Stuff Man, Be sure to get some pics.
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glad to hear it worked out in the end. and i am exited to see this swap
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GREAT MAN!!!!!! so glad to hear everything is finally working out!!
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
So what about all the damage to your car?
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I'll deal with it as soon as the car is out of the shop. I just got back from a long day of working on the car, and we're still having troubles with the exhaust leak. Today we took the 2-1 portion of the header to a machine shop to get it flattened, because currently it is warped. When I went to pick up the part, they hadn't finished the job yet, so they just gave it back to me without charging me. Hopefully at least now we can custom make a gasket later tonight. And we still don't have the 02 sensor issue worked out yet. We had to take off the exhaust just to remove the old 02 sensor because it was really stuck in the exhaust. While we were at it, my mechanic replaced my cat with a glasspack to improve flow while keeping the car relatively quiet. I also worked on a bit of my wiring. I drilled a couple holes in the firewall and ran my 4 gauge power wire and some various other wires for things like the alarm siren through the holes. I also cleaned up some of the wiring for my alarm, moved a few relays, installed a couple more relays, and did some various wiring tweaks. ![]() I'm going to sleep in a few minutes for a while because I'm running on 2.5 hours of sleep, but later tonight I'll head back to Auto Boogie and work on the car some more. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Time to change your depresing Signature
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It's good knowing that things are getting better.
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