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post May 7, 2013 - 9:26 PM
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So here's my Celica as she stands now:


And when I got her, nearly 6 years ago at 139,000 miles:


She's a 1994 GT. Fully stock when I bought it(wheels aside). Perfectly clean. Never been in an accident.

Now it's got whited out JDM Tails, ST Suspensions sway bars, new Konig wheels and Megan Racing coilovers.



A few weeks ago I started getting some possible signs of a broken head gasket. So, I decided to dive in and do something that I've been wanting to do for a while.
So, today I got:
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Gaskets are on their way. I've already got a new clutch and some motor mounts. New cluster is on it's way too. Just setting to work on electrical until then!


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post May 8, 2013 - 2:35 AM
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woot.gif BEAMS AWESOMENESS!!!!


Good luck with the swap! biggrin.gif


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post May 8, 2013 - 5:42 AM
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Will you be extending the harness or going through the firewall? Good luck. smile.gif


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post May 8, 2013 - 8:50 AM
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I'm planning on extending the harness the 40 some inches! Don't really want to have a hole in the firewall to plug.


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post May 8, 2013 - 9:15 AM
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I extended mine 24" which was still a little too much.


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post May 8, 2013 - 9:33 AM
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So you'd do closer to 20"? And it's just on the section between the firewall and the first plug (MAF)?

I may pick up a second 5S-FE harness later today, and use that as an idea for length for everything (and probably steal wires from it too).


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post May 8, 2013 - 12:44 PM
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thumbsup.gif

I put a hole in my firewall tongue.gif haha


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post May 8, 2013 - 2:01 PM
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20-24" is good. Like I said, mine was a little long but I'd rather have it a little too long than a little too short. I extended mine between the MAF and firewall. It wasn't too complicated. Time consuming, yes, but not difficult. Now is definitely the easiest time to extend it, I'm tired of swapping harnesses in the engine bay laugh.gif Picking up a spare 5S harness is a good idea. If its OBDI, it may not have all the same color wires as the BEAMS harness.

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post May 8, 2013 - 6:04 PM
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Good deal. I'll start on it this weekend after I finish labeling the BEAMS harness and getting it off.

Just picked up a 5S harness, it's OBD1. Some color wires are better than none. I just want to try to have as little generic white/black/blue/yellow in the harness as possible, though hopefully I shouldn't have to take it apart again for a long, long time.


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post May 8, 2013 - 7:38 PM
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First take at 3D Printing extra BEAMS logos:


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post May 14, 2013 - 5:51 PM
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Started work on the wire harness:


Got my gauge clusters in today:


And realized I got a brake upgrade with my engine. I bought a front subframe, so it has the superstrut suspension and the two pot brake calipers! Now to figure out what rotors I need for them.


Still waiting on the gaskets and timing. At this point, that's all I need to take out the 5S and put in the BEAMS!


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post May 15, 2013 - 4:47 AM
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Welcome to the Beams family. smile.gif


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post May 19, 2013 - 9:11 AM
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Worked yesterday to free the new engine from the front subframe and...success!


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post May 24, 2013 - 11:59 AM
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I like that white faced cluster. What is it from?


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post May 29, 2013 - 6:22 PM
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Those are the gauges from an SS-III.

Also, got the old 5S-FE dyno'd today as a base mark. Not as tired of an old girl as I thought she was:
5S-FE @ 5200 feet elevation.
Short ram intake.
91 Octane.


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post May 29, 2013 - 7:06 PM
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Good job so far, and good luck on your swap. Finally your Celica will be the car it should've been all this time. Why Toyota ruined the USDM Celica with a Corolla or Camry engine I'll never know.


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post May 29, 2013 - 7:47 PM
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I have super strut everything in the front. 5s regular rotors are what you want if you use everything.


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post Jun 13, 2013 - 10:17 PM
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Been working on the head and block. Unfortunately my time table is set back a bit as I think I'm going to get the head and block machined. There's just too many pits and such of questionable size. Do it once, do it right.

Some pictures though:





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post Jun 23, 2013 - 7:46 PM
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The BEAMS is in. And Runs. (Started on the first try!!!).
Pictures forthcoming. Thanks to everyone's help, and most especially richee!


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post Jun 23, 2013 - 8:15 PM
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No problem, glad to help out and glad to hear your BEAMS started on the first try!

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post Jun 23, 2013 - 9:26 PM
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QUOTE (aspen @ Jun 23, 2013 - 7:46 PM) *
The BEAMS is in. And Runs. (Started on the first try!!!).
Pictures forthcoming. Thanks to everyone's help, and most especially richee!

Congrats, you now have a proper car. tongue.gif


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 10:15 AM
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And got a 2.5" exhaust welded up. Still a few issues, namely high idle and occasionally acting a bit strange while accelerating - both which I hope will go away once I get the remainder of the stock airbox in and fully bleed the cooling system.


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 1:30 PM
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Mine has high idle as well. Average between 1200 and 1400 rpm


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 1:33 PM
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QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jun 27, 2013 - 1:30 PM) *
Mine has high idle as well. Average between 1200 and 1400 rpm


high idle all the time even when it warms up?


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 2:18 PM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 27, 2013 - 2:33 PM) *
QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jun 27, 2013 - 1:30 PM) *
Mine has high idle as well. Average between 1200 and 1400 rpm


high idle all the time even when it warms up?

Its relentless. It thinks about low idle if you kick it into neutral at speed but it jumps back up and down for a second, eventually settling out high. IACV theory


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 3:52 PM
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I cleaned my ICSV. I hope I don't have to replace it, but at least with my exhaust it's nice and quiet at 2k now.


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 8:51 PM
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Well, new airbox, sort of bled the coolant (I had some issues, see further down), inspected the coils (they look good), but I've still got a high idle. When I unplug my ISCV it idles the same and can't compensate for adding in A/C and such. So, we'll see.

Also, as far as the coolant, not sure if this should be worrying me or not. Seemed like it'd be plausible for there to be that much assorted air in the system with the engine swap and several impromptu hose swaps. Also, it was 100 degrees today so it started out pretty hot to begin with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUcI1fixPd4

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post Jun 27, 2013 - 9:28 PM
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A BEAMS is supposed to idle at 750, and the ISCV should be correcting your idle. I've never unplugged my ISCV with the car running so I couldn't telling you what happens there. How does your TPS look? I assume you cleaned the throttle body when you had the engine apart, so you shouldn't be having any issues with the butterfly valve staying open. It could very well be that your ISCV simply isn't working, but one guy on the BEAMS Owners Group recently got a code for his ISCV so presumably you'd have a code if yours was defunct. I'm working 11-7 tonight and I doubt if I'll be busy so I'll put some thought and research into this for you.


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 9:32 PM
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I realized going through the cleaning again that I never removed the motor so I'll do that in the morning and make sure it actually moves.

My TPS could be a culprit, maybe... I did have to junk yard a new one and wound up getting one off of a Tercel (which according to ToyoDIY is the same).

I'll report back once I get the ISCV off again(sigh, I can now remove the throttle body in like 3 minutes) and the motor part taken off.


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 9:47 PM
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Now you're onto something. smile.gif The motors get horribly gunked up in those ISCV's. Regrettably they can't be cleaned without actually taking everything completely apart. I tried just spraying some cleaner through the throttle body on mine but had to actually take it off. I despise those screws that Toyota used to attach the ISCV to the throttle body... They're those lame Jap spec super soft metal screw that strip out if you look at them wrong.

I'm sure your TPS is fine. I picked up a brand new one from Toyota for mine. They aren't adjustable on the BEAMS but when I checked my new one with a multimeter, I found that there's just enough play in it to send the wrong signal to the ECU. Whether it would make a difference or not I don't know, but I did have to twist mine as far as I could before tightening the screws.

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*PRO TIP*
Use an angled screwdriver on the brass screws on the IACV/ISCV.


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 9:56 PM
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Heh, I already cut those off (or turned them into flatheads) and replaced with hex nuts. I'll probably be doing the same for the motor.


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post Jun 27, 2013 - 10:04 PM
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Way to be a typical male. tongue.gif

You can hook the ISCV directly to your car battery to spin the motor fully open/close. Helps in the cleaning/lubing process.


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I didn't have my impact driver handy!


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QUOTE (aspen @ Jun 27, 2013 - 10:56 PM) *
Heh, I already cut those off (or turned them into flatheads) and replaced with hex nuts. I'll probably be doing the same for the motor.

That's what I did also.
When I put a Beams into my Rav4 the IAC was bad. We tried cleaning but no good. We got one from a 05 Echo IIRC that was a perfect match.


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post Jun 28, 2013 - 9:49 AM
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I'll keep that in mind. Cleaned it again though (and removed the motor to clean that portion) and the idle is greatly improved. Now down to 900-1000, or at least near the realm that my gauge could be off (I'll double check with OBD2). So, this is good.

Had one quick instance where I revved it this morning and it acted like it misfired and sort of skipped a beat and briefly flashed the CEL. No stored code though. Not sure if it could be bad gas or what. My coils looked fine yesterday.


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post Jun 29, 2013 - 7:17 PM
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At least the idle is improved! I doubt if you have bad gas, or your 5S would've been having problems too. When I first fired up my BEAMS, I had a snipped COP wire going to my #3 cylinder. It never threw a CEL despite the fact that I had one cylinder that wasn't firing at all. It's weird that you're getting a CEL without having a stored code... Is it stumbling pretty hard or does it act more like it's barely missing? I can't imagine the coolant temp sensor could cause it to misfire, so we'll rule that out. Same goes for the TPS, it will affect the engine some but won't cause any major issues. Crank and cam position sensors are working great or else you couldn't even get the motor started. For it to stumble or misfire, I'd say the biggest factors would be the MAF or the COP's. Could have possibly skipped a tooth on the timing belt but again, not likely or you'd have more problems than a random misfire. VVTi solenoid won't cause a misfire either, just sluggishness.


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post Jun 30, 2013 - 3:18 PM
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Running wise, it seems to have improved. I drove ~100 miles today with no running issues except...

Cooling. The temp sensor is really jumpy, and it doesn't seem as though the system is getting pressurized. So I'll check that. It seems to do fine temperature wise, and then jump around every so often. Leads me to think maybe radiator or something - which I should probably replace anyway since mine is pretty old and non-OEM.


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 5:44 AM
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Maybe air in the system? Jack the car up in the front or park it with the nose up, remove the radiator cap and let it idle a while. Don't do it with a warm engine though, but i don't think i have to tell you that biggrin.gif

Probable you've already tried the above, but sometimes people just forget about it wink.gif


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