 Gen III 3sgte steel braided oil line kits for turbo? |
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 Jan 26, 2014 - 5:34 AM
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I'm wondering about the reliability of the ebay steel braided oil line kits and how well the adapters hold up to high heat on the turbo. Does anyone have experience with these? Do the brackets warp from the heat on the turbo? Taking the turbo off would definitely be easier with this immovable metal line out of the way. I'm also wondering if the Gen II uses the same fitting on the block/turbo that the Gen III uses, and furthermore if the 2jz does as well.
-------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
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Jan 26, 2014 - 6:44 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 1, '10 From TX Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (90%) |
QUOTE (match220 @ Jan 26, 2014 - 5:34 AM)  I'm wondering about the reliability of the ebay steel braided oil line kits and how well the adapters hold up to high heat on the turbo. Does anyone have experience with these? Do the brackets warp from the heat on the turbo? Taking the turbo off would definitely be easier with this immovable metal line out of the way. I'm also wondering if the Gen II uses the same fitting on the block/turbo that the Gen III uses, and furthermore if the 2jz does as well. just went this route. I got the kit from kinugawa turbo and i'm pretty sure they sell on ebay. the brackets for the turbo looks as thick or thicker than the stock hard lines, dont know what the actual metal composition is compared to stock. I wont know about longevity untill i start driving it . you can check my project thread i actually took several pictures to put together a how to on this, i'll try add the pics this evening when i get in. one thing to note is the water lines dont fit in the stock location you have to switch the block off plate and move the coolant lines to front of the turbo otherwise it wont clear the exhaust manifold. also most of the "kit" is not needed, i would have been better off just getting the fittings for the turbo and sourcing the rest myself cheaper. hopefully this info will help others looking into this and i believe the fitting your looking for is gonna be m12x1.25 - gen3 m18x1.5 - gen2 This post has been edited by JasonTX: Jan 26, 2014 - 6:45 AM -------------------- JN 3:16
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Jan 26, 2014 - 6:57 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 1, '10 From TX Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (90%) |
This is threaded with an -8an drain and -4an feed
i eventually went with the same fitting in -10an drain but the dimensions of the base are almost identical 
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Jan 27, 2014 - 6:17 AM
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be careful, ive heard they eventually crack where the line meets the flange.
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Jan 27, 2014 - 10:06 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 1, '10 From TX Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (90%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 27, 2014 - 6:17 AM) be careful, ive heard they eventually crack where the line meets the flange. thanks for the heads up. i'll update if and when this happens -------------------- JN 3:16
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Jan 27, 2014 - 4:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
-4 is a little big for feed, i suggest -3
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Jan 27, 2014 - 5:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '06 From Kaimuki, HI Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
Good info..thanks! So are the adapters on the block of the 3s the same for the other turbo Toyotas?
-------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
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Feb 4, 2014 - 2:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
-3 is for ballbearings, the stock hard line is bigger than -4. its actually a good idea, the kink in the hard line is what cokes up and starves turbos and kills them
-------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
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Feb 4, 2014 - 3:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (delusionz @ Feb 4, 2014 - 11:32 AM) -3 is for ballbearings, the stock hard line is bigger than -4. its actually a good idea, the kink in the hard line is what cokes up and starves turbos and kills them this is not true at all. its all about pressure. I had to use a -3 line and restricter on the 7A-FE turbo kit. the 7A has high oil pressure and caused the turbo to smoke. im using a non ball bearing turbo on my Supra and a -3 feed line. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Feb 4, 2014 - 4:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 1, '10 From TX Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (90%) |
i've heard both sizes suggested for similar reasons and both sounded plausable. I'm not sure how much flow is necessary but i stuck with the -4 but if it turns out its too much i can simply run a restrictor. i'll post my results in the other thread after ive put a few miles on it
This post has been edited by JasonTX: Feb 4, 2014 - 4:30 PM -------------------- JN 3:16
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