 Bought a used cluster, it's engine check lits on |
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 Mar 16, 2014 - 4:26 AM
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I bought a used cluster from a scrapped GT and as soon as I connected the right plug(if gauges are facing you), the check engine lit up.
Is it possible that the car I got it from, had the light come on and it somehow stayed on the cluster? On my original cluster there is no problem. Is it normal that the light is on without the key being in the ignition at all? I was afraid to start the car with it, with the hopes that the ECU will clear it. 
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Mar 16, 2014 - 6:02 AM
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The cluster shouldn't have any memory or control over any lights. It's possible the bulb was burned out on the old cluster. It could be worth swapping bulbs to see if it makes any difference. Did the CEL light up with the key on but the motor off with the old cluster?
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Mar 16, 2014 - 6:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 12, '13 From Bulgaria Currently Offline Reputation: 53 (100%) |
I will swap the bulbs to see if it's actually my ECU that's sending the signal.
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Mar 16, 2014 - 6:29 AM
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The light should be lighting up with the key on but the engine not running, so I'm thinking the bulb was burned out in the old cluster.
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Mar 16, 2014 - 8:58 AM
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Some clusters are different, depending on years, options, and countries.
compare the back of the new cluster to yours, see if the circuitry is different. -------------------- |
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Mar 16, 2014 - 11:43 AM
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Key on, engine off, the check engine light SHOULD be on! Plug your old cluster in to check.
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Mar 16, 2014 - 12:05 PM
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What's the cel on it? I use to hav a cel on my old cluster because the speed sensor inside the cluster was bad and my speedometer didn't work along with my cruise control. Swapped it out for a different cluster and never saw the cel ever again. So you might have a faulty cluster.
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Mar 17, 2014 - 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 16, 2014 - 1:05 PM)  What's the cel on it? I use to hav a cel on my old cluster because the speed sensor inside the cluster was bad and my speedometer didn't work along with my cruise control. Swapped it out for a different cluster and never saw the cel ever again. So you might have a faulty cluster. Your speed sensor isn't inside the cluster, it's on the transmission. |
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Mar 17, 2014 - 10:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Correct, but I believe the signal passes through the cluster on it's way to the PCM.
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Mar 18, 2014 - 12:58 AM
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Mar 17, 2014 - 8:28 PM) Correct, but I believe the signal passes through the cluster on it's way to the PCM. Yeap. Got that right. -------------------- |
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Mar 18, 2014 - 1:09 AM
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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Mar 17, 2014 - 10:02 AM) QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 16, 2014 - 1:05 PM) What's the cel on it? I use to hav a cel on my old cluster because the speed sensor inside the cluster was bad and my speedometer didn't work along with my cruise control. Swapped it out for a different cluster and never saw the cel ever again. So you might have a faulty cluster. Your speed sensor isn't inside the cluster, it's on the transmission. Yes it is l. Changed it and cel remained on. Researched more and tried swapping the cluster. After the swap. Cel never came back on. -------------------- |
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Apr 11, 2014 - 4:54 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 12, '13 From Bulgaria Currently Offline Reputation: 53 (100%) |
Ok, the problem is still here. As soon as I plug in the cluster the check engine light comes on even, if the key is not in the ignition. If I turn the key to ON with engine off, the CEL goes away. If the car is running there is no CEL as well.
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Apr 11, 2014 - 6:17 AM
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QUOTE I bought a used cluster from a GT since I sold mine ( a ST ). As soon as I plug it in the CEL comes on even if the key is not in the ignition. If I prep or start the car CEL comes off. Turn off the car, CEL and fans come on. Unplug the bulb, fans turn off. What the hell is going on?  http://youtu.be/nvNcW4C_a68 -------------------- |
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Apr 23, 2014 - 3:31 PM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Apr 11, 2014 - 5:17 AM) QUOTE I bought a used cluster from a GT since I sold mine ( a ST ). As soon as I plug it in the CEL comes on even if the key is not in the ignition. If I prep or start the car CEL comes off. Turn off the car, CEL and fans come on. Unplug the bulb, fans turn off. What the hell is going on? http://youtu.be/nvNcW4C_a68 I would assume that GT and ST clusters should be the same, but I think they don't since both have different engine and signals are different. that might be the reason -------------------- 1994 ST Celica --> no swap --> 7A rebuild
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Apr 23, 2014 - 3:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 12, '13 From Bulgaria Currently Offline Reputation: 53 (100%) |
I have to find a GT and put my cluster in it. Seems like the only way to rule out the cause.
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Apr 23, 2014 - 7:56 PM
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did you compare the wiring?
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