MK3 supras going up in value or overpriced supra? Options

[njccmd2002]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Supra-Base-...em=131808687432

there is another near me

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/ve...81064&Log=0

are these cars going up in price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Supra-MK-II...em=361555103687

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Mar 8, 2019 - 10:37 AM

[Box]

I wonder if the drugs they're on come with them, especially the autotragic N/A for $16,000.

[njccmd2002]

the one on ebay, i spoke with seller, 1 owner, not exactly low miles, not interested in 5 speed. looks in good condition, Not looking for a resto, i want a car that is drive ready. but its either 8k price range, or pos at 2000 bucks.

only issues with them i see the ac buttons peel off, cheap material i guess

[Box]

Of the bunch you posted I'd go after the MKII. If you're going to get an automatic the SC300 would be a better buy, especially for what some want for an automatic N/A MKIII. The MKIV Supra being based on the SC300 you have a fair amount of parts interchangeability here and there, and they're not too terribly expensive in great shape. $8,000 would get a really nice 5-speed car, though if you have your heart set on a MKII or MKIII Supra that's understandable too.

A lot of 80's cars are bad about peeling A/C and radio buttons, the process they used to adhere a thin layer of cutout black plastic over a clear plastic button in order to get them to illuminate wasn't the best obviously. Really the biggest thing to watch out for on the MKIII is if the head gasket has been redone properly

[NgoFcukinWay]

they're asking a lot for some NA Auto MK3s even though they look to be clean. That Red '88, although it has low miles, is dreaming if they're going to get that price. I find it interesting that the Blue has '89+ tails on it. Of the 2, I'd probably go for the MK2 assuming it's a P-Type and probably offer them about $5500-$6K for it. The fart can on it makes me wonder what kind of life it led though.

[njccmd2002]

believe it or not, the car is not for me, my daughter will learn to drive, and wants the blue supra. she found it, not me.

But not sure if its priced right. Best I could get was that the timing belt was changed 30 k miles ago. Headgasket, I doubt. This was an ladys car per the seller. I have not laid eyes on car yet. I doubt we get it, because I feel its too big of a car for her....

He wont budge on the price though. And the more I search for a cheaper car, I just found raped out supras.

[Bitter]

Duh, get her a Celica.

The Supra has some awkward dimensions for a first car, something like a 8G Corolla with a 2ZZ/C60 swap would be a much better first car to learn to drive with. Just toss a PFC in there and set the rev limit to 6,000 for her first year of driving and she'll have a regular Corolla.

[njccmd2002]

Duh, get her a Celica.

The Supra has some awkward dimensions for a first car, something like a 8G Corolla with a 2ZZ/C60 swap would be a much better first car to learn to drive with. Just toss a PFC in there and set the rev limit to 6,000 for her first year of driving and she'll have a regular Corolla.

you don't understand, she wants a flip up headlights car, an 80's car. A 8g corolla is out of the question. MKI mr2 is more appropriate.

[NgoFcukinWay]

'89-'93 240SX.

[njccmd2002]

'89-'93 240SX.

nope, lol, Toyota please... 240s are raped

[njccmd2002]

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools...ta-supra-mk_iii

[njccmd2002]

another one?

http://www.supratraderonline.com/for-sale/clear/

[cheela]

pop up headlights.
4th & 5th gen celi...? u could even find a nice alltrac. haha.

[njccmd2002]

i know lol, she likes the poopra... she would have to sit on one, to see if she can see with that big dash

the more I look, all the good supras, unmolested are running 8k to 10k

[NgoFcukinWay]

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools...ta-supra-mk_iii

VIN:
JT2MA70 = Nonturbo
JT2MA71 = Turbo



We might have some for sale here in Houston if you're willing to travel. What are you looking for in a MK3? Budget?

This post has been edited by NgoFcukinWay: May 12, 2016 - 1:09 PM

[Box]

Here's your solution:


You can find a really nice one for next to nothing, the 22R-E will last forever, and there's not enough power to get into trouble as a starting driver. It's still rear wheel drive and it's a car that can grow with her.

[njccmd2002]

well, she will go to look at one today, to see if she even fits. if she cant see pass the dash, then its a no no...

Im looking for a turnkey mk3, low miles. that I don't have to wrench. No projects.

Unfortunately box, no celica or celica supra. those that have a high price, are one owner cars, unmolested.

[Box]

Nobody wants the regular Celica though, they're too busy wanting a Celica Supra, Supra, or AE86 Corolla. If FWD isn't an issue there's the fourth and fifth gen Celica which no one really wants unless it's an All-Trac. The 6th gen Corolla GT-S AE92 has pop up lights as well, but is FWD like the rest of the Corolla lineup by that point. Surely could get any of those in nice shape for half of what it'd cost to get a nice MKIII. There's also the MR2, but even with low power it's probably not the best first car and it seems nice examples cost a bit now. Again if she has her heart set on the Supra that's one thing, but if it's just a "I want pop up lights" there are a good variety to choose from that won't break the bank. Here's another thought, start her out with a Celica and find a decent MKIII as a good father-daughter project.

This post has been edited by Box: May 12, 2016 - 2:14 PM

[NgoFcukinWay]

you're gonna need to retorque those head bolts or replace them all together along with a new headgasket on those 7Ms. As long as everything else is still healthy, ARP headbolts and an OEM gasket will just fine as long as everything is torqued down properly.

[njccmd2002]

well my wife saw the 15k one today, its close by, and she states it was immaculate.

im at work,

i believe im starting to sound like box, posting this threads, and talking to myself

[Box]

You know what's also $15K and immaculate, a new Yaris.

[njccmd2002]

lol. true. but.... if your car was immaculate, would not you have paid more money for it?

[Box]

Yes, but at the same time I wouldn't want to have paid twice as much to get one 100% perfect with half the miles and one less owner to turn around and use it as a daily driver and have to leave it outside all the time. Tires aside all the things wrong were small nitpicky stuff or things I want to do in order to make it more to my liking.

If the car is mechanically sound and mostly original who cares if there are some small cosmetic flaws here and there, you're looking at a car that's 24-30 years old so it's to be expected unless it was hermetically sealed. Odds are it won't stay perfect long even through no means of her own, dumb kids at school don't care if a few dings just devalued your car by a couple grand and neither do the idiots in any other parking lot for that matter.

[njccmd2002]

You mean!

[Bitter]

Duh, get her a Celica.

The Supra has some awkward dimensions for a first car, something like a 8G Corolla with a 2ZZ/C60 swap would be a much better first car to learn to drive with. Just toss a PFC in there and set the rev limit to 6,000 for her first year of driving and she'll have a regular Corolla.

you don't understand, she wants a flip up headlights car, an 80's car. A 8g corolla is out of the question. MKI mr2 is more appropriate.

Kids never get what they want. Did you get the car you wanted for your first car? She'll appreciate it more when she's older and not bouncing it off every curb and guard rail. Something new, something safe. I lost a really close friend partially to an unsafe old car. Had she been in a newer safer car she might have survived. I miss her every day since then, she was too young. Get something new and safe please.

[1994Celica]

Duh, get her a Celica.

The Supra has some awkward dimensions for a first car, something like a 8G Corolla with a 2ZZ/C60 swap would be a much better first car to learn to drive with. Just toss a PFC in there and set the rev limit to 6,000 for her first year of driving and she'll have a regular Corolla.

you don't understand, she wants a flip up headlights car, an 80's car. A 8g corolla is out of the question. MKI mr2 is more appropriate.

Did you get the car you wanted for your first car?

I did! And it was my Celica!

[Box]

Bitter pretty much said what I've been thinking. Unless they've been driving go-karts since they were knee high really anyone's first car should be something relatively low powered, FWD/AWD, and safe. There was a girl the grade above me with a N/A AW11 MR2, was a nice car in blue with the 5-speed and she ended up totaling it after it snap oversteered and she didn't know how to handle it. Luckily she escaped with just some scratches and bruises, but it could've been worse. I'm all for younger people liking old cars and wanting to own them, really I am, but even when your kid does everything perfect there are still idiots out there. Like my grandfather told me when I started driving, "Watch out like everyone is out there to run you over."

Like I mentioned earlier you might consider getting a project Supra for you two to do, then by the time it's done she'll have some good driving experience under her belt and you won't have to worry about her driving an older RWD sports car. If she has her heart set on popup lights perhaps a '94-97 Miata would be to her liking. It's reliable, fun, and about as safe as you can get having popup lights outside of the fourth gen Firebird and fifth gen Corvette.

This post has been edited by Box: May 12, 2016 - 11:38 PM

[ClevelandGaint]

15k damn, you gotta do what you gotta do. Pop ups for the win. I would love a 90-91

[njccmd2002]

All good arguments, dont get me wrong. But a mk3 supra is a turd of 3500 pounds with 200hp that mostly gets 160 to the wheels. Not fast. Big interior. Automatic, even slower, Gold old metal as back in the days. Rwd is only unsafe when you drive stupid.

Lol. But not for 15K.

Lets not direct this thread to something its not. Trying to find what a decent price for an mk3 supra is. Lol

[ClevelandGaint]

All good arguments, dont get me wrong. But a mk3 supra is a turd of 3500 pounds with 200hp that mostly gets 160 to the wheels. Not fast. Big interior. Automatic, even slower, Gold old metal as back in the days. Rwd is only unsafe when you drive stupid.

Lol. But not for 15K.

Lets not direct this thread to something its not. Trying to find what a decent price for an mk3 supra is. Lol

I feel a solid price for a clean mkiii should be around 5-8k total

[cheela]

yeah i see them around here for 5-8k as well.

[njccmd2002]

like the blue one in the pic then? First one i posted? Its nice. But has some miles!!

[Box]

I was going to say my first car was a MKIII, but that's besides the point. The '90-92 had a driver airbag, so if you're going to spend top dollar I'd spend it on one of them given the application. N/A's and automatics don't bring big money, it's just a fact of the type of car it is so for you to spend what it'd cost for a manual turbo on an automatic N/A is ludicrous. These are the same kind of people wanting top dollar for their 1980 301 Trans Am just because the Smokey and the Bandit car went for $500K. Honestly you shouldn't have to pay much more than 5-6K for a pretty nice N/A automatic. There are still sensible sellers out there, just have to find them. I'll keep an eye out since you're really not all that far from me. As far as miles go my first one was in the 150-200K range and was fine, again these are old cars so 150K over 24-30 years is 5-6.25K a year on average.

[njccmd2002]

Thanks.

[SupraKid]

MKIII supra, daily driver, and not turning a wrench. You can only pick two. . The only MKIII that is reliable enough to daily drive is either a 7mge that has been rebuilt, or a JZ swapped car. I would never spend over 5k on a MKIII supra unless it had a proper JZ swap done.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: May 17, 2016 - 11:49 AM

[njccmd2002]

MKIII supra, daily driver, and not turning a wrench. You can only pick two. . The only MKIII that is reliable enough to daily drive is either a 7mge that has been rebuilt, or a JZ swapped car. I would never spend over 5k on a MKIII supra unless it had a proper JZ swap done.

there you are! so these cars are not reliable at all? lol

[NgoFcukinWay]

Sooo...about that BHG because toyota torqued the headbolts down to 55ft-lbs or so..... lol

[SupraKid]

MKIII supra, daily driver, and not turning a wrench. You can only pick two. . The only MKIII that is reliable enough to daily drive is either a 7mge that has been rebuilt, or a JZ swapped car. I would never spend over 5k on a MKIII supra unless it had a proper JZ swap done.

there you are! so these cars are not reliable at all? lol

They can be however they need to be modified to be unfortunately. The headgasket obviously needs to be redone and even then you have to worry about rod knock due to coolant in the oil. Then you have to worry about the wiring harness getting brittle and losing electrical connections randomly which can leave you stranded.

I would recommend a 90s car for something reliable. There are very very few cars from the 80s that are reliable these days unless they are modified and LOADS of cars from the 90s that will be dead reliable and cheap. Get her a miata, they are perfect for teenage girls(and only teenage girls).

This post has been edited by SupraKid: May 17, 2016 - 12:25 PM

[Box]

If you and your daughter are open to American cars and the nonsense they bring a '98-02 3.8 Firebird would be fairly ideal. The 3.8 Buick is one of the best motors ever made and with 200hp is peppy enough for most, gets 19/30 on 87, and best of all nice examples are cheap because most people that want a F-body want the V8 models. ABS is standard and it has popup lights, modern crash safety etc... And you can get them in pretty colours like this:

Plus a lot of people are doing interesting things with the 3.8 cars these days should more performance be desired, think GNX turbocharged goodness.

[njccmd2002]

she has toyota in her blood. sorry Box.

[SupraKid]

Asks for a 80s toyota.. and square recommends a late 90s domestic

This post has been edited by SupraKid: May 17, 2016 - 12:51 PM

[njccmd2002]

lol? you can make a meme...

[Box]

Asks for a 80s toyota.. and square recommends a late 90s domestic

If you go far enough back I suggested the third gen Celica and then the NA8 Miata so you can stop rolling your eyes before I stop them for you.

[SupraKid]

Asks for a 80s toyota.. and square recommends a late 90s domestic

If you go far enough back I suggested the third gen Celica and then the NA8 Miata so you can stop rolling your eyes before I stop them for you.

And that means you can recommend something that is obviously not acceptable? Hey berto, I recommended a miata, so now I will recommend you to buy a 2004 e46 m3.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: May 17, 2016 - 1:30 PM

[Box]

So if it's strictly Toyota and popup lights you're down to:
1984-1993 Celica
1985-1995 MR2
1984-1991 Corolla GT-S
1982-1992 Supra

A 5th gen Celica GT would be a good first car.

[Box]

Asks for a 80s toyota.. and square recommends a late 90s domestic

If you go far enough back I suggested the third gen Celica and then the NA8 Miata so you can stop rolling your eyes before I stop them for you.

And that means you can recommend something that is obviously not acceptable? Hey berto, I recommended a miata, so now I will recommend you to buy a 2004 e46 m3.

It was solely a suggestion that fit her want for popup lights and his desire for not wanting to wrench on it every time the wind changed direction. Hey look I can do it too.

[spolski07]

Asks for a 80s toyota.. and square recommends a late 90s domestic

If you go far enough back I suggested the third gen Celica and then the NA8 Miata so you can stop rolling your eyes before I stop them for you.

And that means you can recommend something that is obviously not acceptable? Hey berto, I recommended a miata, so now I will recommend you to buy a 2004 e46 m3.

It was solely a suggestion that fit her want for popup lights and his desire for not wanting to wrench on it every time the wind changed direction. Hey look I can do it too.

O are we only going off some of the requirements for finding the car they want.

I know! Get an 80's Honda account hatch. Those have flip up lights, and is closer to a Toyota than an f-body ever will be

[njccmd2002]

lol guys. this is getting good...

We are in the hunt for a MK3 supra. The MKI mr2 is too dangerous. Small and unpredictable The Ae86 is well, run to the ground, and a good example will be hard to get and pricy. Unless i get an alltrac celica.

[Box]

The difference being the Firebird is only 14-18 years old and is safe, so that's why I even bothered mentioning it and this was after exhausting the options that were Toyota with popup lights and even mentioning the NA8 Miata. It's not like I was pushing it, just merely mentioning it since it met what seemed like the most important criteria. He said no she only likes Toyota period and that's fine and the end of it.

[Box]

Here're some Supras in my area:
http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/5518791914.html

http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/5587414174.html

http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/5575972822.html

The '91 is probably the best of the lot, but needs A/C work but doesn't say as to what specifically in the listing.

A few on eBay potentially worth checking out:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Supra-TURB0...em=141991881622

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Supra-NO-RE...em=331855354660



This post has been edited by Box: May 17, 2016 - 3:52 PM

[njccmd2002]

found one...

[richee3]

found one...

Anxiously awaiting full pictures, description, review, and your thoughts/opinions.