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post Apr 11, 2004 - 2:01 PM
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I've never raced a neon but are they faster than a 6gc? Everyone keeps trying to tell me they are, I'm not talking about the turbo'd one. Just a plain old neon.
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post Apr 11, 2004 - 2:03 PM
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no
i raced my friends neon and it was pretty slow.
but it was an atx though.


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 2:03 PM
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they have the same motor as the non-turbo talon. they can move, but i'd say in that race, it'd be all about the drivers.
post Apr 11, 2004 - 2:06 PM
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QUOTE (Phat_99CeliGT @ Apr 11, 2004 - 12:03 PM)
no
i raced my friends neon and it was pretty slow.
but it was an atx though.

u have a gt tho


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 2:10 PM
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Isn't the talon engine the same as the eclipse engine?
post Apr 11, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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lol I never knew the eclipse/talon shared the neon 2.0l dohc. and to answer your question. yes our st's will more than likely lose to any neon, but we might have a chance against the sohc models wink.gif
post Apr 11, 2004 - 3:03 PM
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a neon srt4 is faster


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 3:07 PM
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ya but only with a 100 shot of nawz

Can an auto GT take an auto Chevy Beretta 3.1 v6


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 3:13 PM
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QUOTE (Akimbo @ Apr 11, 2004 - 1:07 PM)
ya but only with a 100 shot of nawz

"The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph. "


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 3:57 PM
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SOHC(found in base model neons):

HP Peak: 132 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque Peak: 129 ft/lb @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm

DOHC(found in sport, acr, r/t, highline):
HP Peak: 150 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque Peak: 133 ft/lb @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:07 PM
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QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 11, 2004 - 1:57 PM)
SOHC(found in base model neons):

HP Peak: 132 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque Peak: 129 ft/lb @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm

DOHC(found in sport, acr, r/t, highline):
HP Peak: 150 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque Peak: 133 ft/lb @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm

forgot the weights smile.gif


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:18 PM
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ummm pretty sure the dohc puts down 140 hp, just like the n/a eclipse
post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:24 PM
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lol neons got nothing on celicas i whoop my friend all the time and he thinks my car is fast rolleyes.gif then i remind him that we run low 16's frown.gif
post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:28 PM
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QUOTE (Andason @ Apr 11, 2004 - 8:03 PM)
a neon srt4 is faster

I know the srt4 is, I'm talking about a plain old neon.

Even if it is faster, my car looks a million times better than any neon.
post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:35 PM
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QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Apr 11, 2004 - 2:28 PM)
QUOTE (Andason @ Apr 11, 2004 - 8:03 PM)
a neon srt4 is faster

I know the srt4 is, I'm talking about a plain old neon.

Even if it is faster, my car looks a million times better than any neon.

tongue.gif point well made smile.gif


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:41 PM
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QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Apr 11, 2004 - 9:18 PM)
ummm pretty sure the dohc puts down 140 hp, just like the n/a eclipse

nope, i used to have a neon

got the info from www.neons.org
post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:47 PM
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QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 11, 2004 - 4:41 PM)
nope, i used to have a neon

got the info from www.neons.org

oh werd. so was your neon faster than your gt?
post Apr 11, 2004 - 4:55 PM
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1998 Irish Celica GT = 200bhp

That the 6gc you are talking about?


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 5:02 PM
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I've raced my friends 95 neon many times and I beet him by anywhere from 2-5 car lengths. And I have an ST!! wink.gif
post Apr 11, 2004 - 5:12 PM
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QUOTE (Akimbo @ Apr 11, 2004 - 1:07 PM)
ya but only with a 100 shot of nawz

Can an auto GT take an auto Chevy Beretta 3.1 v6

I seriously doubt it. I used to have a 3.1 Beretta and it was pretty damn fast. It was faster than Grand Prix's at the time. In fact, some Grand Prix's had the same engine, or at least the same size engine. I smoked my friend's early 90's Grand Prix once in my 90 Beretta and I had a carload of people. Look up the stats on that engine: 140 hp, 185 lb/ft of torque! That thing sure would haul ass, but it was junk.
post Apr 11, 2004 - 5:14 PM
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all i know is, i got owned by a buddy's neon last summer.. frown.gif


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post Apr 11, 2004 - 5:24 PM
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i had the SOHC version and bojangles GT blew me away , both autos
post Apr 12, 2004 - 12:11 AM
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as far as neons go id say any stick could give a celica a go, except mabey the base neon vs a GT stick... My parents had a 96 highline stick, and for a sh*tbox it was pretty quick...


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post Apr 12, 2004 - 12:57 AM
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My girlfriend has an auto 2001 Plymouth Neon, and that thing can haul some ass. Its maybe only marginally quicker than my GT though, but its hard to tell cuz of the totally different nature of the two cars. But it climbed from 0-60 pretty damn quick with not much effort when i drove it, so yea....Thats my experience comparing the two.


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post Apr 12, 2004 - 12:57 AM
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QUOTE (Akimbo @ Apr 11, 2004 - 8:07 PM)
ya but only with a 100 shot of nawz

Can an auto GT take an auto Chevy Beretta 3.1 v6

HAHA, yes.... beretta's are pretty slow..... the fastest ones were the 4 cylinder high output ones..... they put out more HP and were lighter biggrin.gif
post Apr 12, 2004 - 1:02 AM
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Yesterday I was driving and I got next to this guy in a Neon SRT-4. We talked for a minute, and he'd seen my car and knew it had a swap, and told me to take off from second gear while we were moving. I pulled away for a second while he maintained his speed, and then he downshifted and pulled so hard on me. It was crazy how fast that thing was, and it was basically stock except for some sort of an intake and exhaust.


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post Apr 12, 2004 - 8:39 AM
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the great thing about srt4 is you can put a stage 3 turbo on their and keep the warrenty
post Apr 12, 2004 - 11:19 AM
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QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 12, 2004 - 6:39 AM)
the great thing about srt4 is you can put a stage 3 turbo on their and keep the warrenty

yeah but you have to pay the dealers price.

Price = arm, leg, left testicle
post Apr 12, 2004 - 11:50 AM
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I have heard, that the newer SRT neons (any SRT-4) can run crazy amounts of boost, and that people are doing some pretty insane times with them. As far as beating regular neons go, it's all up to the driver & a little bit of luck.

Also I believe that most neons came with an automatic trans, correct me if i'm wrong, but that also would have something to do with it.
post Apr 12, 2004 - 12:38 PM
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by the way, what year neon are we talking? smile.gif. From my experience, the neon will whoop on an st given the same driver. But the celica is way sexier. Women don't flock to the neons... well maybe the newest ones...
post Apr 12, 2004 - 10:11 PM
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arent we all forgetting two things?

#1 = its a neon! the name says it all.... i dont care whether it has a turbo or supercharger stock....it is still a NEON

#2 = Its a domestic.... it will break down way before our celica will need its next oil change

i dont think i need to say anymore
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QUOTE (wind @ Apr 13, 2004 - 3:11 AM)
arent we all forgetting two things?

#1 = its a neon! the name says it all.... i dont care whether it has a turbo or supercharger stock....it is still a NEON

#2 = Its a domestic.... it will break down way before our celica will need its next oil change

i dont think i need to say anymore

i agree, but they still can give our celicas a run for their money, and thats ANY neon, not just the srt-4... makes me embarrased to admit my car isnt that quick frown.gif

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post Apr 13, 2004 - 11:05 AM
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as i recall, anyone who gave that car a test(magazines). mentioned it's poor quality, and rocketlike behavior. you can not drive the car while pushing the pedal...it's just a AIM and GO car...

makes me wonder if a celica with a 3S-GTE would be the same...

but yea...best buy for the money...if u can take having a Neon


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post Apr 13, 2004 - 6:46 PM
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The neon engine is sort of the same as the talon/mitsubishi chysler 2.0 non turbo this is not the 4g63 engine. it is rated at 140hp biut seems to be slower than even the 2.0 non turbo 4g63 talon/eclipse engine that mitsubishi made. Maybe the cars are heavyer than in 95-99 than 90-94. But the only difference in the neon engine to the talon and eclipse is the way the engine sits. the talon and eclipse(non turbo) have the engine sitting with the header faceing the front of the car where as the neon has the intake mainfiold facing the front. And yea it is quite slow. I saw a neon atb the trac stright pipe and all stripped out and slicks do only mid to high 14 sec 1/4 mile. not sure about internal works. Still drag racing is not where its at. I have dragged befroe however i think its funner to go 40-50mph only. Well it may not seem so much but try doing that in some curves its funner. But back to the topic you never know who will win untill you do it serious hey the neon might misshift. lol. Atleast you know you can out run him in a mileage test. toyota engines = 200,000+ miles still like a champ. chrysler engines = 150,000 miricle and hanging on every day because you don't know when the engine will give out on you. P.S. I used to own A talon so trust me I know Chrysler/mitsubishi craftsmanship.
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QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Apr 12, 2004 - 5:57 AM)
QUOTE (Akimbo @ Apr 11, 2004 - 8:07 PM)
ya but only with a 100 shot of nawz

Can an auto GT take an auto Chevy Beretta 3.1 v6

HAHA, yes.... beretta's are pretty slow..... the fastest ones were the 4 cylinder high output ones..... they put out more HP and were lighter biggrin.gif

I drove a 2.8 Beretta when I was 16. That car handled like crap. It currently resides in my parent’s back yard rusting away. I got sick of the replacing parts on the damn thing.

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QUOTE (Doge @ Apr 12, 2004 - 4:19 PM)
QUOTE (brianforster @ Apr 12, 2004 - 6:39 AM)
the great thing about srt4 is you can put a stage 3 turbo on their and keep the warrenty

yeah but you have to pay the dealers price.

Price = arm, leg, left testicle

This price mentioned is not really correct.
why? I dont think many people having the SRT4 have testicles anyway because if they did they wouldn't get a Neon SRT4.

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