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post Apr 22, 2004 - 1:47 AM
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I've made it even easier for everyone to do. Ready ?

Take ur control box apart, pop off the buttons. Paint the inside of the box, and inside of the buttons.

Paint to use:
RED : Same paint for redding your tails Candy apple red
BLUE: Candy blue

Spray 2 coats ... let it dry and put it back together

your done

Enjoy ............. No more soldering !

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post Apr 22, 2004 - 2:01 AM
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Awesome! Looks like I know what I'm doing tomorrow. biggrin.gif

Defgeph and I are working on a how-to article for this with more detail and more photos too. smile.gif


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post Apr 22, 2004 - 2:04 AM
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thanks saving me from welding in new led's.. biggrin.gif


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Nice work... but question... why do people keep calling it climate control. USDM Celica's never came with CLIMATE CONTROL.

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post Apr 22, 2004 - 3:12 AM
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seems like a good name for it ...... its better than that thang dat controls da heat !

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post Apr 22, 2004 - 4:48 AM
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where do you get da' paint for da' box thingy with lights that has heat dials and.... uh.... the climate control

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post Apr 22, 2004 - 6:38 AM
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that looks great, any body wanna do a how to on just taking that bad boy out and apart?


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post Apr 22, 2004 - 7:18 AM
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Wow awesome!


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post Apr 22, 2004 - 8:02 AM
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so are the leds inside still green? or u taken the green caps off?
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why cant you eather.. replace to red bulbes, or chnage the caps, humm.. I going to have to look into this.. Nice work
post Apr 22, 2004 - 9:14 AM
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They are LEDs, you cant just replace them like other bulbs, they are soldered in. So it was difficult to get into there and start to solder.

I think this is a much easier way.

I'm curious too, where did you find that red color?


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I know what im doing next weekend! would do it this weekend but i just payed out $400 for tires so im broke again.
post Apr 22, 2004 - 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Drocay @ Apr 22, 2004 - 6:38 AM)
that looks great, any body wanna do a how to on just taking that bad boy out and apart?

give us a day or two ... The answers and pics are coming


sprynt - go to a hobby store and buy paint called candy apple red if you want red. if you want blue get candy blue.

*oh and yes take the green caps off the bulbs.

The how to is coming guys i have to take pics of everything

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QUOTE (defgeph @ Apr 22, 2004 - 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (Drocay @ Apr 22, 2004 - 6:38 AM)
that looks great, any body wanna do a how to on just taking that bad boy out and apart?

give us a day or two ... The answers and pics are coming


sprynt - go to a hobby store and buy paint called candy apple red if you want red. if you want blue get candy blue.

*oh and yes take the green caps off the bulbs.

The how to is coming guys i have to take pics of everything

looks good.

so the bulbs have green condoms on them? is there any way we can source these condoms, I know autometer used to produce a couple of different sizes. I'm just worried that spraying the inside of the control box could result in uneven distribution of paint thereby making it look crappy.
post Apr 22, 2004 - 1:20 PM
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Yeah buying different covers would be nice.

I'm assuming you can do colors besides red and blue? Anyone think of white?


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post Apr 22, 2004 - 2:13 PM
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if u take the covers off im assuming it'll be white.


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lol white would be nice....but lets just find out how to take the thing apart thats wut i need to know
post Apr 22, 2004 - 3:16 PM
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yea if u compare the defroster and the AC..the AC is alot darker
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http://www.lampbulbs.com.tw/products/micro-1.htm

lamp covers.
post Apr 22, 2004 - 4:07 PM
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gr8 but how u order from them....
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they sell bulb covers at auto zone that u can use, i work there
post Apr 22, 2004 - 10:20 PM
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awesome! is that a kenwood xcelon deck too? biggrin.gif
post Apr 23, 2004 - 1:45 AM
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I attempted to do this to mine today, and failed miserably. frown.gif

First off, I forgot to paint the area where you can control fan speed. Also, I painted the light reflectors for the buttons too much, so they're dim to the point where I can hardly see them. Also, in one of the buttons, you can get a hint of green. And worst of all, none of my lower button lights work anymore. The fresh/recycled air button, the A/C button, and the rear window defroster buttons no longer light up, although their small square indicator lights light up. Also, part of the warmth adjustment area is dim, and the area that surrounds the fan speed knob is very, very dim.

Unless anyone has any ideas, I'm going to scrap this one and just find a used climate control unit, and keep it stock. frown.gif

Here's a photo of what happens when a retarded kid tries to mess with his climate control unit. frown.gif
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post Apr 23, 2004 - 6:26 AM
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i also tried, but just the knobs and they turned out horrible. There so dim that now the large one i can barely see and the small one is just dead.


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post Apr 23, 2004 - 1:15 PM
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Hmm.. are all the lights working? did u take off the green caps?

I replaced all the LEDs in mine... so I never tried this... but you might wanna look into that....
post Apr 23, 2004 - 2:11 PM
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QUOTE (DmVinny @ Apr 23, 2004 - 11:15 AM)
Hmm.. are all the lights working? did u take off the green caps?

I replaced all the LEDs in mine... so I never tried this... but you might wanna look into that....

My lights probably aren't working on the bottom of the box, but they did before. I did take off the green caps.


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post Apr 23, 2004 - 2:16 PM
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coomer what type of paint did you use ?

If you want you can just scrape off the paint with some paint thinner and try again.
*Oh you need to get new bulbs ! Go to toyota get new bulbs they are like 6 dollars each put them in and you should be fine.
And you might wanna touch up off on the control.

dont lose hope get the bulbs trust me


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post Apr 23, 2004 - 3:31 PM
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Has anyone considered using a blue acetate? I might try placing a blue tint film inside the buttons and see what happens. There is also a great article about how some bloke used a blue neon tube inside his a\c unit in his 7th gen celica at everythingcelica.com (you'll need to register to view the whole article).
post Apr 23, 2004 - 3:39 PM
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soo.... we can take them off to get an all white climat control (minus the blue/red on the temp)??


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post Apr 23, 2004 - 5:21 PM
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QUOTE (mikew04 @ Apr 23, 2004 - 1:39 PM)
soo.... we can take them off to get an all white climat control (minus the blue/red on the temp)??

I'd think that you'd be left with off-white/greenish light if all you did was remove the covers.

Also, Defgeph, I used the Testors transparent candy apple red paint. I'll try getting new bulbs from Toyota on Monday and see if that solves my problem. How many bulbs did you buy?


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post Apr 23, 2004 - 5:47 PM
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I bought 3 so I had extras I used two.... It all came together when I changed the bulbs

Edit : when you go to toyota and he asks you what lights are you talking about .....tell him the twist in ac lights. Cause at first hes gonna see the defroster light ..... it will only list one ac bulb ...order three of those bulbs wait I still have the part number I'll be back with it


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ok here it is

part number : 84999-70007

all you have to do is take off the condom and twist em in

And if you want Da Heater Box Thingy to be white then just take off the caps ... they just wont be hyper white

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post Apr 23, 2004 - 8:52 PM
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here is a pic of one button.....
back
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first cable to pop (blue)....... by the gas pedal
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second cable (black)....... in the engine bay on the fire wall
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unhook both unscrew the box (2 screws I think) unplug the 3 connectors behind the unit and pull it out.......

as you pull it out look at the black cable follow it to the white tube. the tube is a guide back out to the engine bay the pic is below

it in the dash to the left right under the blue cable you'll see the opening
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when you put the unit back make sure you put the black cable in that tube

hope that helps you guys
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Hey, Having trouble with the britness of the Climate Control??? Well, do I have a solution for you! Cut the GREEN wire in the back of the unit!! wink.gif This is the sending wire that tells the unit to dim the light bulbs. HA! I'm going to try it in a few hours I'll keep you all posted!!! smile.gif


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post Apr 27, 2004 - 2:16 PM
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Then wouldnt that hinder the effect of the lights dimming when you turn ur lighs on ?
My lights are bright enough They look stock.

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QUOTE (defgeph @ Apr 27, 2004 - 12:16 PM)
Then wouldnt that hinder the effect of the lights dimming when you turn ur lighs on ?
My lights are bright enough They look stock.

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Mine are really dim, so this would help, but I think I'm better off taking off the paint, spraying just one coat on the light reflector things, and then putting it back in.

Also, I have a tiny bit of green showing through at the top of those indicator lights...do you get that defgeph?


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QUOTE (Coomer @ Apr 27, 2004 - 2:48 PM)
Also, I have a tiny bit of green showing through at the top of those indicator lights...do you get that defgeph?

No, I dont have any green or clear showing. I painted the little LED reflectors too. Not the LEDs.
Look at my picture above you can see the inside of my buttons.

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A bit long but worth it:
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Okay so I disconnected the GREEN wire (not the one with a white stripe but the GREEN one!), and then the bulbs didn't light up at all, even after I re-connected it!! confused.gif Wierd huh!! HOWEVER!!! I figured it out, connect the spliced green wire from climate control unit to a GROUND!! HA! and the lights never dim, they are fairly brighter!! Also, try (if you haven't) turning your dim switch all the way on. If you do this mod, you will have to turn it all the way off though! Connecting the green wire to a ground reverses your dim unit!! also strange, but it doesn't matter!! Doing this will save you about $60 for a new unit! Hope this helps!! TIP: DON'T PAINT THE BULBS!! Also, the green tint is comming from the small bulb in the lower left corrner on the circut board. its right below the right bulb, if you pull out that unit you can disconnect that bulb and by increasing the watts (by the mod earlier) the unit wont need that green bulb to light up!!

Hope this helps guys, this SMALL EASY mod has turned into a HUGE hassle!


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QUOTE (defgeph @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:52 AM)

first cable to pop (blue)....... by the gas pedal
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second cable (black)....... in the engine bay on the fire wall
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unhook both unscrew the box (2 screws I think) unplug the 3 connectors behind the unit and pull it out.......

as you pull it out look at the black cable follow it to the white tube. the tube is a guide back out to the engine bay the pic is below

it in the dash to the left right under the blue cable you'll see the opening
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when you put the unit back make sure you put the black cable in that tube

hope that helps you guys
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Why does everyone always do this the hard way? Just disconnect the cables at the climate control box, it's pretty simple to do and alot less time comsuming.
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problem is u can't see or reach the cables on climate control at least i couldnt when i tried a while back.


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HOW about using A WATER RESISTANT MARKER? Its a marker with alcohol. you could paint it easy and it will glow through it just like through the paint? I used it in few places before, and got really good results... I would give this a try too, but my AC control unit is redone already... smile.gif


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doggy i remeber seeing yours and it was great, did u use the marker thing or what did u do.


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Is a Sharpie considered a water resistant marker?

Also, just to update you guys on mine, I took it out of the car again last night and then painted the fan speed adjustment portion of it. I then took out the buttons and took paint thinner to the light reflectors to remove a lot of the paint, and then I repainted them with a lighter coat on each one. My new bulbs for the unit come in to my Toyota dealer today, so I'll pick those up and install the unit back into the car tonight, and post the results on here. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Coomer @ Apr 28, 2004 - 5:56 AM)
Is a Sharpie considered a water resistant marker?

Also, just to update you guys on mine, I took it out of the car again last night and then painted the fan speed adjustment portion of it. I then took out the buttons and took paint thinner to the light reflectors to remove a lot of the paint, and then I repainted them with a lighter coat on each one. My new bulbs for the unit come in to my Toyota dealer today, so I'll pick those up and install the unit back into the car tonight, and post the results on here. smile.gif

Well, i dont know about the brand, but just get the Marker that is designed to write on the galss, or metal surfaces. Just ask that they would be water resistand (not - water based) And it will suit you.


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QUOTE (Drocay @ Apr 28, 2004 - 5:50 AM)
doggy i remeber seeing yours and it was great, did u use the marker thing or what did u do.

Nope, myne is all did with LED's. i have like 10 LED's iside it smile.gif


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To provide an update on my situation, I just got everything finished and installed back into the car, and with the new bulbs, everything looks great. smile.gif

Unfortunately, the bulb inside my rear window defroster switch is out too, and my Toyota dealer can't figure out how to order just the bulb. rolleyes.gif

Also, I got rubbing alcohol on the buttons, and it discolored the black part of the buttons bigtime. frown.gif


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