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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Is it just me or do these cars get an obscene amount of wheel hop.
if i launch and get the tires spinning the car hops. i find it very hard to race because of this. every single time i spin the tires the car hops like a mofo. what could be the problem and how do i fix it? |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Apr 3, '03 From Omaha, Ne Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
If you are racing, and getting that much tire spin then you must be revving really high. I never get wheel hop. Mabey you should check your tires. Could be over inflated.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 8, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
get a 3sgte and then complain of wheel hop... my **** does it like crazy, even without launching.... bad springs or shock absorbers i suppose... just upgrade your suspension and you should be fine
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
not revving high at all rev it to 1200 and get wheel hop |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
You're revving it to low, hahahaha.
I used to have the same experience with my 95. Personally, with good tires, i got a great start with 4500, i'm sure i could've fine tuned myself a little bit more, but i never got the chance....dang guy ran me into a median. -------------------- ![]() The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dō Kyōshan – “You can not be what you do not believe you are” |
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Your suspsension sucks...get a better suspension.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
serious? rev to low? |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
That's what i think, everyonce in a while, i don't mean to get a race start (like at a stop light all by my self), and i really wanted to just go forward, haha. So that means my rpm's were around 2500 or so, and i get wheel hop. What are your rpms when you get your wheel hop?
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i can take off at around 3000 and i get no wheel hop.... get better tires and suspension
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
hops at about 1200 and above |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
try a 3500 start.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
and also, tell me exactly what you do, like after you dump the clutch, do you slam the gas down, and stuff like that.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
yes and no ive tried both putting it down and not puttin it down. oh and when its raining, no wheel hop. foound that out the fun way |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Well, the rain is common smartz, haha. Less friction. I would say hyping your rpm's up some more when you get off the line, that should get rid of the low rpm wheel hop, if you're putting more power to the wheels at once, then it also creates less friction, and then of course cetchs, you're at a high rpm, and you're off!!
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What physics class did you take? That doesn't make any sense at all. |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i didn't read it after i wrote it, sorry, haha. I should've said, if you put more power to the wheels at once, and create spin, the friction is lost. But, it will come back, and that's your start. Does that make more sence. I think i might be confusing my self, but i'm sure he gets the idea
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
yeah i got the idea. i tried launching at 3000 and the tires spun but no wheel hop. the only thing is its quicker not launching because i get too much spin
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
just kinda play with the launches and how much gas you put in after you launch
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i also forgot to tell you, if you're racing, or just want to play around even more, let a little air out of your front tires.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) ![]() |
let air out of your tires = step one
rev up to around 2000 rpm with the clutch out far enough that its grabbing and you let out anymore your goin to move= step two light turns green dump the clutch hit the gas you might even do this at a lil lower maybe not sure yet = step 3 |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
one, it isn't exactly a good idea to be doing that at stop lights, and also, driving around with a lower pressure all the time. that's why i said playing around and stuff. Two, he's already getting wheel hop under 2000. So i would say 2500 or 3000 again with the lowered pressure in the tires.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
keep the pressure right in normal street tires. lowering the pressure will not help you launch. You will actually be riding on LESS tire thread if the pressure is too low (the outsides of the tire). Now if you have drag slicks its a different story.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
like how much less? ive tried up to 5 psi less and it didnt help
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined May 24, '04 From state of northern virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i doubt it has anything to do with his acceleration. dude, its probably time to upgrade your struts/springs. your car is 10 years old. sounds like most likely your struts are blown.
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Actually you should set your tire pressures fairly high. It won't really affect launches that much (more tire pressure = less contact patch) so you might get a bit more wheelspin, but having a hire pressure tire means you will get less flex in the tire-wall and therefore better handling.
Also with more tire grip the car will be more likely to hop, as it is more difficult to get the tires spinning. This usually happens if you give enough power to get the wheels spinning, but not enough to keep them there.. so the car jumps between the wheels spinning and having traction. If you drop the clutch at say 3,500 rpms and spin the wheels, when you notice the wheelspin slowing, lift off the power a bit, then floor it once you have traction. If you just hold the pedal as the rpm drop down, the car will prolly hop. This post has been edited by KAMiX: May 31, 2004 - 5:14 AM |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Mar 2, '04 From Little Rock, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
yall need to quit playin so much, youre going to start breaking axles.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
gotta play and have fun. what else is a car for. if i just want transportation. id buy a beater i wouldnt buy a celica |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Mar 2, '04 From Little Rock, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
today i had my ac blastin, and taking off in 1st, the wheels hopped a little! bleh. yeah, why can my car do 150 if the speed limit max is 65? hmm..
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
because 65 is a guideline |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
150? it says you don't have any performance upgrades, shut up dude. And are you serious about that speed limit stuff. I bet you red 94 gt laughed just as much as i did -------------------- ![]() The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dō Kyōshan – “You can not be what you do not believe you are” |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
probly not. i had a good chuckle for about 10 minutes though |
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