 GSX or 3sgte? |
 May 19, 2004 - 5:32 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 19, '03 From Buffalo,NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
What would you rather have?
a 97-98 mitibushi gsx, or do a 3sgte swap.? GSX Pros:Looks good, Fast stock, easily tuned. Cons:Bad tranny's? easily to break?, alot around 3sgte: Pros: Fast, Rare, strong engines Cons:FWD |
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May 19, 2004 - 5:39 PM
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 Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
mitsu pros i agreed
cons they have a tick in the engine, burn oil, and are played out by f&f 3sgte pros only a handful of people have them, you'll surprise the 5h!+ out of people when you blow by them, Unlimited potential with the 3s cons fwd but who cares.... you have civics doing 10 second qm's with fwd. put some slicks on and call it a day --------------------  I will return one day. |
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May 19, 2004 - 5:39 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '03 From Atlanta Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
3sgte, but i would rather have a gt4
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May 19, 2004 - 6:46 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Chatham, Ont Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Id take either, Id prefer a celica with a 3sgte and gt4 styling. But I think I might save for a Supra for my next car
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May 19, 2004 - 6:53 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
take care of the GSX and it will run great
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May 19, 2004 - 7:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I'd much rather have my car than a GSX.
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May 19, 2004 - 8:03 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I had a GSX and a FWD just wouldn't do for me when it comes to speed. Nothing would beat that car. But.... it must be babied.
Great quote "DSM's... making mechanics out of normal people since 1989" AND NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO That F&F eclipse was NOT a GSX... It was a RS!!!!!!! A turbo'd 420A DODGE NEON ENGINE! AHHHHHHHHHHH... I hated it when people referred to that as my car. Mine never burned oil nor had ticks... i sold it with 150k on it. And DSMs have great trannys ... if you drive manual... otherwise the first statement is true - Autos really suck. This post has been edited by turboinduction: May 19, 2004 - 8:05 PM |
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May 19, 2004 - 8:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
4WD is not a top speed friend.
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May 19, 2004 - 8:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i had mine at 155 tops... seem to do ok
.. and i love my celica - dont get me wrong but the gsx was a fantastic car |
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May 19, 2004 - 8:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
id take a 3s swap.... or a GSX... id take either... but if i had a choice, id take the 3s celica... celicas are MUCH sexier than an eclipse....
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May 19, 2004 - 9:35 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i would look at it in terms of funds (if thats important to you) the aftermarket for a gsx is greater and much more easily attainable. plus the engine is already in the car and you wont have any little quirks. right now both chrebis and super are still working out some probs. but overall 3sgte celli rules
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May 19, 2004 - 9:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im so incredibly sick of these threads
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May 19, 2004 - 10:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
then dont read them 
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May 19, 2004 - 10:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
hey...i think i said that quote! anyway, i was faced with the same decision a few weeks back. the gsx is a great car and perfect car to tune. the only real bad thing is crankwalk and the fact that you may be forced to swap your engine anyway. you have to look at how much time, money and effort you have invested into your celica already and how much more you are willing to put in. in my case, my car looks nothing like it did the day i bought it. people drool over it anywhere i drive. the only thing i didnt like about it was the lack of power, so i decided to buy a 3sgte. so now it will have the go for the show. i know it will never be awd, but awd, rwd and fwd all have their drawbacks. anyone can go out and buy a gsx, but only you can build the car of your dreams. think about it this way, would you get more props for having a gsx or a turbo celica that you built? dont get me wrong...i LOVE DSMs. they are the best bang for the buck. anyway...the choice is yours. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 19, 2004 - 11:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
the RS in the F&F wasn't turbocharged I don't think. it just had a hugely expensive nitrous setup. (that's what the little highlight on the F&F web page said.) it also said it's 1/4th time was 14.0! LOL |
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May 19, 2004 - 11:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So he only owed him a 14 second car! WTF! DOM OWES BRIAN 4 SECONDS
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May 19, 2004 - 11:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '03 From FRANKFORT,KENTUCKY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
rob cohen owes me an hour and half of my life back for that stupid movie.
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May 20, 2004 - 12:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 19, '03 From Buffalo,NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the thing is, if i got a GSX i would have a montly payment . which i dont want . ill probley end up with the 3sgte. it hink it will be more fun and rare. there are hardly any 6gc's around my area.
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May 20, 2004 - 1:40 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i just checked insurance quotes on a 1999 GSX 5spd
$700 a year full coverage ahhh, the beauty of AWD and how much it helps with insurance:D just thought i would throw that out, because insurance is usually a factor that is overlooked when buying a car -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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May 20, 2004 - 5:05 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you want the reliablity of a toyota go 3s.
My friend has a 96 Gsx and he has all kinds of trouble with it, every 2 weeks it something new. It rides like crap compaired to my car, but still handles good. When I ride in it it sounds like its about to fall apart. It is really fast, and won't spin at all no matter what we try to do. Insurance depends on your age too, my friend pays like $200 a month for full coverage and that is the cheapest he can get. |
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May 20, 2004 - 9:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The RS in F&F was turbo by the look. When they popped the hood, you could see it on the top of the manifold. Otherwise a 10,000 dollar fuel management system really wouldn't be that great of a benefit. Also, you could hear the BOV when he shifted... all of those cars had turbos.
Hear is something for ya.. watch the first scene with him and the eclipse on the track. Count the shifts  .... 6 shifts and 7 when he puts it in reverse!!! No wonder he spun out... its in reverse!!!!! But enough about that movie... its overtalked the way it is. Back to DSMs.I agree that the DSM is a "bang for the buck" car. Great vehicle, easily tunable... and AWD. Its not good for show (burn outs) but theres no greater feeling than waxin' a Cobra or SS Camaro off the line in a 210+ hp 4 banger. And crankwalk isn't a problem! It only happened in a very small amount of cars. I've owned 2 (95 and 96) and never saw anything. Also, no one I know.. about 10 more of them.. have ever experienced crankwalk. Dont let this discourage you from ever getting a dsm. This post has been edited by turboinduction: May 20, 2004 - 9:40 AM |
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May 20, 2004 - 9:56 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i would take a running 3sgte swap any day over ANY eclipse.
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May 20, 2004 - 1:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 19, '03 From Buffalo,NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i am 19 years old.so insurance would probley be pretty high.
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May 20, 2004 - 7:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
am 19 as well... and it is
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May 20, 2004 - 7:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im 18 -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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May 21, 2004 - 12:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
do they really have a different problem every week?
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May 21, 2004 - 8:43 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No... had mine for about a year and the only problem I had was the crank pulley going bad. The rubber seal eventually hardened and broke apart making the pulley wobble. But at 140k miles, its not that unexpected. I replaced it with a UR pulley set and she was good to go.
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May 21, 2004 - 10:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
well, after looking, consumerreports Bashed mitsus, and eclipses mostly, so... back to the drawing board.
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May 22, 2004 - 1:57 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Get a 2000 or newer WRX...Turbo AWD and reliable.....oh man this thang is quick!!!
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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May 22, 2004 - 11:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I thought the WRX was built 2002+?
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May 23, 2004 - 12:04 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i always like the 2.5RS
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May 23, 2004 - 2:09 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/re...dex.cfm/id/2209
I know really no one else on here likes DSMs but I do miss mine. oh and 00+ eclipse are the worst - dont waste your time looking into them I would also go with a 2002 STi or 04 Evo VIII if I had 30+ grand laying around This post has been edited by turboinduction: May 23, 2004 - 2:10 AM |
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