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post Jun 4, 2004 - 8:02 PM
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Hey guys....u can check my profile for more info about me...

Modifications done to my car till now is:

Bosch Mag Plugwires 5mm
V Power NGK Plugs
Injen Cold Air Intake
Custom exhaust
lowered my car.
RSGT Aerospeed 18" wheels
Denso Bigger CC fuel injectors (don;t remember which)
carbon fiber hood ( truth is it sucks cuz it doesn"t fit properly)

Things to come:

Greddy SP Exhaust.
Tusudo Chrome Headers 4-2-1 with Oxygen senser holes.
Apexi SAFC Controller.
Vader Bodykit from www.extremedimensions.com
Venom Fuel Injectors.
Venom Fuel Pump.
Okay i will be getting a overdrive pulley and Cam gears...but still searching for the cam gears...this is a good idea to gain Horse power as ST models:

Camgears: 8~25 hp gain ( only adjustable ones )
Pulley drive: 8 hp
SP exhaust: 15~20hp
headers: 15~25 hp
Venom fuel stuff will give u gain in hp depends on how u adjust it.

I would suggest the new Venom Computerized Nitrous system.

if i can save up more i will try to get my valve springs and pistons and rods changed to highperformance so that i can use Nitrous in a decent way.

Gonna take time smile.gif ST people get this stuff it does give u more horsepower...do this before u get a turbo. i did alot of research on it.

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post Jun 4, 2004 - 8:12 PM
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QUOTE (zebt66 @ Jun 4, 2004 - 7:02 PM)
i can use Nitrous in a decent way.

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i thought Injen didnt make CAI for our car and Greddy stopped producing the SP's.


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QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 4, 2004 - 9:13 PM)
i thought Injen didnt make CAI for our car and Greddy stopped producing the SP's.

You are correct on both fronts.
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Wow dude. I don't know what drugs you're on, but I want some.

You're so far off the mark its sad.

Have you ever dynoed any of your 'high hp' mods? Where are you getting all the info on the mods to come and all the power they produce? Please please do some reading before you do any more boasting.

Be careful what you believe. Many manufacturers make false claims about hp gains. Don't believe anything but the dyno you see with your own eyes.
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lol no... i m not high, i got this information from one of the Miami Performance racers club members in Miami....he is a good mechanic for them and he has all the tools u want...old and experienced. He told me thts a good way to gain HP for Non turbo...but i m sure it wont; go up tht high but a little higher then stock!
post Jun 4, 2004 - 9:52 PM
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yeah Injen diod make CAI for our car..and i m getting the SP exhaust from a online store...they have discontinued stuff!!!
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man, your thinking or looking to gain about 60 some odd hp.. but you wont get much more than maybe 8... maybe 10 if your lucky...
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jun 4, 2004 - 10:59 PM)
man, your thinking or looking to gain about 60 some odd hp.. but you wont get much more than maybe 8... maybe 10 if your lucky...

Don't kill his dreams!
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wink.gif lol yeah dont; kill my dreams...i m just letting u know wht soem one told me. okay 10 Hp gain with pulley and cam gears tht is not bad.
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jun 4, 2004 - 8:59 PM)
man, your thinking or looking to gain about 60 some odd hp.. but you wont get much more than maybe 8... maybe 10 if your lucky...

I saw NOS in there. 60+ hp is far from being a dream with that


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your injen isn't a CAI. Its just a regular short ram.


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post Jun 4, 2004 - 10:48 PM
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God dammit i m stupid....Sorry gusy it is a short ram intake....My Bad.
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I must say im sorry, IK wasnt trying to dis you, or destroy your dream. I just get sick of all the kids around here, that have an intake an a bomb muffler think that they have alot more power.. an will kill you.... Sounds like you have a good start to a moded n/a 7afe. Keep it up
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Dont forget the small stuff, like switching to a good synthetic oil and trans fluid, every little bit helps (I prefer Amsoil)
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Sounds like you have a good plan ahead of you. That nitrous will be fun. Once you get all those engine mods your car, your car will have some nice pull to it. You'll prolly have trouble with the cam gear. I dont think anyone makes an aftermarket piece, but maybe I'm wrong.

I like to see people mod up the 7a. Maybe you should look into porting and polishing the head. upgrade the clutch, machine the flywheel,TRD short throw shifter, and add lsd to the tranny.

good luck with the 7a
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you could always take your air conditioner out, then use a smaller belt to compensate not needing to go around that pully. With the less drag your sure to make more horse power, not to mention lightening it up.

I would suggest lightening it up anywhere you could. Some racing seats or something.


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post Jun 5, 2004 - 4:20 AM
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Hmmmm....Actually what kind of setup do you trying to built???This sounds like a NOS setup to me...
First go for the exhaust system and headers and later on for the rest.
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I had some changes in plans to mod my car...i m not a kid who likes bomb mufflers and intake....just a start offf.

instead of getting my bodykit and SP exhaust i m thinking abut getting this turbo kit:
http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/pages/d...tsku=TSI-TC25B1

After the turbo kit i will get teh pulley and try to get the air conditioner out ( thts a nice idea Thank U) and then i can get a bodykit and SP exahsut and stuff later on.

How does tht sound.
I need comments on the turbo cuz i m new to tht section so i will apreciate it if u guys help here.

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If your going to go turbo might as well do the exhaust at the same time because the downpipe won't connect to the stock exhaust, as most (if not all) 7a turbo kits are for rolas and there exhausts differ from celica ones. Also with a turbo that is connected to a stock exhaust your just going to hurt your performance because with all the extra air and fuel that your going to be using your stock exhaust will not be big enough to handle it all efficiently.
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Yeah i will be installing custom 3" piping!!!
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i also rather doubt the stock transmission can handle forced induction. get a 5 speed.


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post Jun 6, 2004 - 3:51 AM
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ME LOVE RS_GT RIMS...I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I WOULD CRY EVERYTIEM I DROVE WITH THEM!!!!!!!! bowdown.gif
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hey man hook us up with the link to that site where you're getting your sp exhaust


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in all honesty the 7a is a pointless motor to mod unless your going turbo. in the long run youd be better off going with the swap.

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the thing is that i whana try something different, i whana hook up the ST...i can get a GT and i already have a GT but i don;t like coupes so i m selling it...and i don;t like the light purplish color... smile.gif
i whana smoke integras with my Celica ST Turbo. smile.gifi will wortk on it really hard and light weight it as much i can.

Okay website for Greddy SP Exhaust:

http://www.modacar.com/products/Toyota/Celica/MODACAB/

http://www.tmengineering.net

Thts the only 2 websites i know of and i also know they have those exhausts still in there Warehouse...they carry discontinued parts.
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just because its listed doesnt mean they'll have it. if you give them a call, theyll either say it is backordered or not made anymore, either way they wont have it and more than likely wont be able to get it.

and why the heck do you have a turbo timer?? lol


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QUOTE (Andason @ Jun 6, 2004 - 6:19 AM)
in all honesty the 7a is a pointless motor to mod unless your going turbo. in the long run youd be better off going with the swap.

you can't say that. because if you truly believe that then there is no point in doing up any car unless its a funny car. There is always something bigger and better. Its about what you're trying to achieve.
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Hey i just got teh timer for real cheap, don;t worry abut it...lol if they don;t have a turbo kit ani more...TSI Still makes a kit for 7AFE!!!

http://www.turbo-kits.com/images/tsi_superior_turbo_kit.jpg

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/pages/p...its&make=Toyota

Yep tht is a kit i can get...but i can afford teh superior kit only not the Extreme kit.

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Well you are still gonna need extra stuff that the superior kit doesn't come with. Things like an intercooler, piping, turbo manifold stuff like that. If you are going to turbo you are better off just sourcing all the parts it will be cheaper that way.
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Its comes with the monifold and piping...but i need to get injectors and intercooler...yeah a fuel pump too!!!
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QUOTE (Tweek @ Jun 5, 2004 - 4:49 AM)
you could always take your air conditioner out, then use a smaller belt to compensate not needing to go around that pully. With the less drag your sure to make more horse power, not to mention lightening it up.

Yeah, I did this on my '86 GTS and it made a huge difference - also took out the power steering pump and same results. It was a little harder to turn at a dead stop but no big deal really - almost no difference at speed.
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QUOTE (Junior @ Jun 6, 2004 - 12:29 PM)
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in all honesty the 7a is a pointless motor to mod unless your going turbo. in the long run youd be better off going with the swap.

you can't say that. because if you truly believe that then there is no point in doing up any car unless its a funny car. There is always something bigger and better. Its about what you're trying to achieve.

Building a funny car is way out of anyone's price range. Of course there is always something bigger and better...but its not often that that bigger and better thing would cost the same amount as the smaller, lesser thing. The whole point of the 3s swap is that it is the cheapest way to get more power. Of course some people can do it cheaper by not swapping, but for most that is not the case.
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you dont have to take off the airconditioning, just turn it off...
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QUOTE (Doge @ Jun 8, 2004 - 12:54 PM)
QUOTE (Junior @ Jun 6, 2004 - 12:29 PM)
QUOTE (Andason @ Jun 6, 2004 - 6:19 AM)
in all honesty the 7a is a pointless motor to mod unless your going turbo. in the long run youd be better off going with the swap.

you can't say that. because if you truly believe that then there is no point in doing up any car unless its a funny car. There is always something bigger and better. Its about what you're trying to achieve.

Building a funny car is way out of anyone's price range. Of course there is always something bigger and better...but its not often that that bigger and better thing would cost the same amount as the smaller, lesser thing. The whole point of the 3s swap is that it is the cheapest way to get more power. Of course some people can do it cheaper by not swapping, but for most that is not the case.

true that a funny car is out of budget, but an 89 mustang 5.0 isn't. Its probably cheaper and can put out a lot more. If the guy is trying to accomplish something with his 7A, then I encourage to get what he's looking for out of it. Its not always about being the fastest, it could also be trying to see what how far you can take what you already have. If you're gonna flame the kid for going with a 7A and not a 3S, then you have to flame anyone that does anything but a 3S swap. That means anyone who doesn't do a 3S swap, including coomer and his 4A swap. Everybody loves what he did, but nobody is getting on his case for not doing a 3S swap.
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QUOTE (Junior @ Jun 10, 2004 - 7:59 AM)
QUOTE (Doge @ Jun 8, 2004 - 12:54 PM)
QUOTE (Junior @ Jun 6, 2004 - 12:29 PM)
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in all honesty the 7a is a pointless motor to mod unless your going turbo. in the long run youd be better off going with the swap.

you can't say that. because if you truly believe that then there is no point in doing up any car unless its a funny car. There is always something bigger and better. Its about what you're trying to achieve.

Building a funny car is way out of anyone's price range. Of course there is always something bigger and better...but its not often that that bigger and better thing would cost the same amount as the smaller, lesser thing. The whole point of the 3s swap is that it is the cheapest way to get more power. Of course some people can do it cheaper by not swapping, but for most that is not the case.

true that a funny car is out of budget, but an 89 mustang 5.0 isn't. Its probably cheaper and can put out a lot more. If the guy is trying to accomplish something with his 7A, then I encourage to get what he's looking for out of it. Its not always about being the fastest, it could also be trying to see what how far you can take what you already have. If you're gonna flame the kid for going with a 7A and not a 3S, then you have to flame anyone that does anything but a 3S swap. That means anyone who doesn't do a 3S swap, including coomer and his 4A swap. Everybody loves what he did, but nobody is getting on his case for not doing a 3S swap.

You took that the wrong way bud...thats not the point I was making.
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I don't think I took it the wrong way. i agree the whole point of a 3S swap is the cheapest way to get more power. But the point in doing up a 7A is to get the most power out of a 7A. Not everyone just wants to go fast. Some want to be innovators and pioneers, and building a 7A to do the 1/4 mile in under 14secs would make him an innovator
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Not to be a jerk Junior but I think you did take it the wrong way. The whole point of me and Andason even mentioning the swap was because he wants to know what he can do to get power. It was a suggestion that should be taken into account...nothing more, there was absolutely no flaming going on and we're not TELLING him to do anything. It's just another one of the many options that everyone should know about. So please don't think that we were trying to put anyone down.
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I'm not offended, and I think I was out of line when I said you guys were flaming. It just sounded like he was saying that its not worth doing unless its a 3S swap. If I took it the wrong way, I apologize.
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here is the deal i was selling my car to get a Integra GS/ GSR...but i changed my mind as on my birthday i m going to be getting abut 5000 from my dad...and thts wht i know....so i whana knwo should i get a turbo for teh 7AFE or get a 3sgte swap done !!!???
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I think that 5000$ in your hands is scary...
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hehe i will turbo it...lets see wht happens!!!
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are you goin to go custom or do the corolla kit and make the few lil mods to that?!?!?! oh makes sure to use a BALLBEARING turbo
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im gonna get the ball bearing turbo for corolla and do soem mods to it smile.gif

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