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Ive read lots of threads on these forums about the tein lowering springs and it sounds like everyone is happy with them, Ive also read that the tein springs + kyb combination is pretty popular, but I dont exactly know what kyb products I need for this setup, can somebody help me out?
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Jun 21, 2004 - 12:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
go to carparts.com and order some KYB Gr2 gass shocks and struts should be about $200 then i would recommend changeing ur stut mounts go to pepboys for that and thast it man and ur springs
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Jun 21, 2004 - 12:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
thanks man!
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Jun 21, 2004 - 12:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Im looking on carparts.com and I cant find the kyb stuff, is tirerack a good place to get that from?
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:08 PM
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i wouldnt waste your money. my car rides just fine.
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
waste my money on what the kyb's? -------------------- |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:10 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I got mine on Ebay... about 200 shipped.
 NEW!edit: WAIT... give me 45 minutes... then look on eBay for them Dont wanna lose my auction
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
lmao I wont be getting anything for a week or two anyway -------------------- |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
actually it just ended... heres the link to another one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=7906760759 |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
wait i have a question.....
what is a shock and what is a strut i know thats a noob question but for some reason ive never known the difference -------------------- |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 1:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
basicaly shocks are ur front ones and struts are ur back ones....also whoops i gave u wrong link go here in stead http://www.importrp.com/contact.php and either fill out contact form and they will email u or u can call them at
Call Us: 1-425-398-1846 its the best deal on the whole packeage i paid only 193 including shippin ebay has them but for like 215 plus shippin ....they are very quick at answereing emails like wihtin minutes |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 2:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sorry latin... thats a little wrong. Basically, shock to my knowledge is a one way absorber. A strut is a two-way thus controling the vehicle better than a shock. Shocks a still primarily used in the trucks. Next time you see one, look by the rear tire. Its a post just like the lifts on the Celica hatchback. Shocks are separate from the spring and normally beside them. A strut is combined with the spring into an assembly. Now a coilover is a spring thats adjustable. Easy on that one. Here is a nice article. http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Arc...ebruary/07.html Morgan |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 2:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanks man ohh i get them confused all the times yea basically the rear are struts and in the front u need to replace i guess the cartilage something like that (GR-2® Brand Cartridges) and the struts are GR-2® Brand Gas Struts
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Jun 21, 2004 - 6:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes... Celicas have struts all the way around. You would have to replace all of them if you were upgrading. The front should be the same. The rear will be independant. Meaning it'll look like this in an order: Front x 2 - model #123456789 Rear Left - model #987654321 Rear Right - model #1234554321 just for you non-street smart people - those are not real model numbers |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 10:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
So what you all are saying is all I need is struts all the way around, and there are no shocks on the celi?
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
exactly just email the guy i told u he knows wuz up good deal too man 193 includin shippin damn man cant get better than that and u get it in less than a week IM installing mines on wed with TOm's springs
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Im gonna get those tein springs on ebay
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea get teh tiens i heard they go well with teh KYB's |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:40 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
When I get paid this is what Im gonna bid on
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...sspagename=WDVW -------------------- |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:52 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If the KYB's are just OEM replacements, why get em? If you want stock, your car came with it.
Go Koni Yellow. Koni's 8-way adjustable struts will own ANY kyb. -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Some of us dont need Rally quality struts. I just need something that'll last through my drop and everyday driving. I know that my current stock struts couldn't handle it and the KYB's are a perfect match. KYB = 200. Koni = 600 and then need custom work as I've heard. I dont rally cross so I'll be fine with stock struts for my pavement battling Celica.
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Jun 22, 2004 - 11:54 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You're stock shocks will handle the drop. I'm riding on a 1.75 (tom's springs) drop for some time now. But I will buy Koni's once I get a few more bucks.
And you don't have to rally to appreicate Koni's. You can soften up the ride so you ride like a Lexus and your girlfriend stops bitching. (I've always been a fan of just smacking her and telling to shutup, but whatever works) Or you can stiffen em up to go have a spirted drive on curve roads. I just feel like, if OEM toyota struts and KYBs are the same, why shell out extra money just for the name? -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nah man wayy too much money thast $50 more than wut the guy on the site i told u sells it for |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yo how are ur tom's springs feel?? cause i just got some and about to install them toormmw... |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 1:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '04 From Sussex, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
In the UK the KYB's a lot of people go for (me included) are called ExleG's and they're uprated 20% from the stock ones. The difference as far as I know is that the stock Celica ones are a gas and oil shock but the ExleG's are just gas. Are GR2's the same as ExleG but just for the U.S. market? |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 1:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I cant get konis because I have $1000 worth of other suspension work that needs to be done, since ive put my car through so much crap my suspension is completley going to crap so i need a lot of stuff. I hear the KYB and tein combination is good so thats what Im gonna go with for now, and that guy hasnt emailed me back yet
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Jun 22, 2004 - 2:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
damn thast odd heres his email address sales@ImportRP.com |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 2:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i just sent him another message so we'll see what happens there. I loked on the pep boys site and I cant find those strut mounts you were talking about, how much do those sell for anyway?
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Jun 22, 2004 - 2:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
strut mounts are like $60 at advandced auto parts for a pair u need 2 for teh front and rear so that 120 thast a lot of freakin money man im a see if they need to be replaced or not tomrow when i install my struts |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 4:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I know mine need to be replaced, every time I turn there is a crapload of cracking and popping. so this is what im gonna get.....
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Jun 22, 2004 - 4:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
oh ok ncie some people say they had to replace the sway bar inno y but i hope that dont csot that much
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I changed mine. Only bcus I tried taking them out when I installed my GC's before, seemed pretty worn through time. Not to mention the winter weather here. There's that risk of stripping that Allen head so be aware. I'd recommend changing them. I got mine for about $50 each. Did some research on them and that's pretty much how much you'd be spending for them.  
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Where did you get your sway bars from?
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I got them from www.partsamerica.com. Part number for them is TRW 18087. Do a search on your vehicle and the swaybar links, mounts, etc. is under the Chassis category. I believe there's also www.rockauto.com also. |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Here is my quote on the shocks.....
"$40 per front shock and $45 per rear shock. In stock and ready to go! Shipping to 20636 will be $28.62. Really looking forward to doing business with you!" im gonna buy those after I buy the springs -------------------- |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 12:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dude 198.62 shipped u cant find a better offer anywehre else LOL buy those and yes get tiens |
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Jun 24, 2004 - 11:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Weooooo i just got the teins off of ebay, thats the first step
Next week I will be getting the kyb's! This post has been edited by bojangles_8686: Jun 24, 2004 - 11:23 AM -------------------- |
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Jun 24, 2004 - 11:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good luck bojangles. I'll keep you informed as my spring and struts should be here soon. This weekend I should put them on.
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Jun 24, 2004 - 12:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
whos installing them for u? cause ijust went thorugh 5 hours os pain in the ass LOL...when u take off the cartilage in the front struts use WD 40 b4 so that its easier to screw them off if nto OMG ur in for some major wrench pulling...i ended up going to MIdas to take em off. also u dont need to change ur strut mounts if they are ok it was good on mines..rignt now im just tryin to figure out y i hear a clicking sound on my rear passenger side.
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Jun 24, 2004 - 7:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I am just gonna get all my stuff installed at once by some shop, probably meineke because we know the local owner around here.
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Jun 24, 2004 - 8:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you want to save cost on the intallation, I suggest you do your rears. Taking out the rear link is a snap if you're going to end up replacing them. All you have to do is remove the 1 hex head that's attached to the frame and you don't need to worry about the other one . The fronts gave me problems. There were 4 of us trying to unscrew the thing and it just wouldn't give. We took it to our friends friends shop and he torched the shock for me and installed the cartridges. Only charged $25 for both of them.  He said that he thinks Toyota sealed the shock housing with some sealant to prevent leaks, so that's why it was hard to unscrew. |
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Jun 24, 2004 - 8:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
But hey, if the guy you know can hook you up with a great installation price then go for it.
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Jun 24, 2004 - 9:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haahhah same thing happen to me man OMG u tried to unscrew that bittchh like crazy but it didnt work so we just went to midas and they did it for us for free hehe |
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Jun 27, 2004 - 10:35 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Well ive taken it to 2 shops and so far they have both said the same thing, the grinding when i turn and accelerate is my axles grinding each other apart, the send shop didnt even look at it i kust told them what was happening and they knew that. I am getting it checked out by that shop tomorrow I will let you all know what other stuff I need
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Jun 28, 2004 - 6:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My tom's springs are alright. I have 2 rear blown shocks, so I'm sure it feels wrong. But when push the car side to side, it's really stiff. So they're decent, they haven't truely impressed me a lot yet.
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92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jun 28, 2004 - 11:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea man the suspension is a lot stiffer now like at high speeds of like 110-130 like my wheel doesnt shake like iit used to SO IM HAPPY
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Jul 11, 2004 - 3:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Ok heres an update, Tein S springs get to my house on the 13th, KYB GR2's all around get here the week after. I got the list of parts that need to be replaced and they are the front strut mounts and front cv shafts (axles). I ran into a little bit of luck, my friend works at tires plus and can work on my car for free so all labor is $0
I still want to get new sway bars just to make sure everything is new and in good condition. So almost $1000 goes down to about $310 with a little help from friends and a little more research. Is there anything else you all recommed I get?
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Jul 16, 2004 - 2:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I have a question, are the front and rear sway bar links the same exact thing? LIke part numbers and stuff.
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Jul 16, 2004 - 9:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no they're 2 different parts. Ones longer than the other. I believe the rears are. This post has been edited by CelicaQT: Jul 16, 2004 - 9:08 PM |
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Jul 17, 2004 - 10:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
So what is the part number for the rear ones? I already have the front ones.
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Jul 17, 2004 - 11:05 AM
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Im not sure the part number, but i know if you got o like autozone they can pull them up for ya. but they are a nice 65 bucks each. but if your goign to upgrade your sway bars. you can get the front an rear kit for like 265.. an that comes with new links.. check out nopi |
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Jul 17, 2004 - 2:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Every time I goto a shop they tell me they cannot find rear sway bar links. I went to partsamerica.com and clicked on rear sway bar links, and they have the same number and the front sway bar links, thats why I was thinking maybe they are the same thing on front and back.
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Jul 17, 2004 - 3:40 PM
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you can get them from toyota for about 65ea
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Jul 20, 2004 - 8:57 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Bojangles, partsamerica will ship you the right ones, i notified them of that error on them, when i spoke to a rep. I made sure that they sent me the rears and they did. TRUST...it's legit. |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 9:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
TRW18087 |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 12:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
The front and back have to be the same than because I have the front ones and their number is TRW18087 also. But oh well Im gonna call up partsamerica and get em.
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Jul 20, 2004 - 12:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
In the site they list them as the same PN#'s. They messed up when entering it into their system. The fronts are shorter than the rears. I believe the PN for the rear IS supposed to be TRW18087, the fronts are supposed to be TRW18086. Or vice versa. I have all the info at home. The Rep. told me this when I spoke to them, but I only needed rears. When you call them ask and verify this. They should send you a different front and a rear. Tell them that the part numbers are wrong and to verify that they're sending you the right ones. Good luck. -Christee- This post has been edited by CelicaQT: Jul 20, 2004 - 1:08 PM |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 11:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I got bored and decided to show everybody a pic of what I have so far haha
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Jul 21, 2004 - 7:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Can anyone explain to me why they gave me 2 sky shocks and 2 replacment cartridges.
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Jul 21, 2004 - 9:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well we have struts all the way around but for the front u only need to replace the cartilage but the back its better to replace the entire strut i think because it takes on the most beatiings when u drive |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:31 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Oh aight, so the actual strut things in the front are probably ok?
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Jul 22, 2004 - 6:00 AM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
all the "strut thing" is, is a housing for the shock to sit in..no biggie man, they'll be fine..
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Aug 10, 2004 - 7:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Well we got everything on today, but, I was driving up a driveway and the smaller axle broke in half. We went and got another one for free because we thought that the one that broke was a defect, we put it in, and it broke in half too, so my car to be towed to tires plus so they can find out whats wrong. Ill update tomorrow when I go pick it up
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Aug 10, 2004 - 7:31 PM
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thats sucks. hope they find the problem.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 7:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
They might already know what the problem is. haha I guess I shouldve said this before but here is the possible problem:
we had to take the axle(s) to a shop so they could take something off the old axle and press it onto the new one (they said something about a peice that bolts to the frame) and in the process of doing that they couldve pulled the cv joint or whatever out of place, which is the gears or whatever that connect the axles. so when i tried to drive the car those gears that were already disconnected just got tossed around and tore up everything. if they determine that that is the problem, than i am gonna have the shop that did that pay for it. -------------------- |
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