how to beat the gas wars, finally good info from a chainmail... Options

[boosted_K2]

Im sure 90% of you have recieved this email and more than likely deleted it before opening it.

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Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell......................205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco.............144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil...............130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway..........117,740,000 barrels Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Citgo...............0 barrels Sunoco............. 0 barrels Conoco............. 0 barrels Sinclair............0 barrels BP/Phillips.........0 barrels Hess................0 barrels All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis.

im going to do a lil quick research myself and see any other info i can dig up...

[No0bOne]

Umm...where's 76?
Anyways, what's with the gas price? it's insane!

[CeliBria]

Unfortunately, none of those stations listed as "dont buy from the middle east" are in California. I guess we're just a bunch of terrorist promoting assholes.

[Cragspider]

Ok I have one ? I know that Amoco was bought out by BP. But BP buys there own oil, and they use Amoco gas? So whats up with this. Cause I by form BP.
Bryan

[boosted_K2]

i was also doing a bit of research on my own, seems marathon doesnt get anything from the middle east either.

[boosted_K2]

as for 76, it is a canoco brand, so its all good.

[boosted_K2]

pulled this off the BP site.
i think the info is just stating the worlds suppy, not necessarily where they buy from.

[The_Argon]

I have never bought petrol from Shell... Never really liked them.

I used to go to Mobil a fair bit, until I heard that they use shale oil in their petroleum products.

There is only one place to get shale oil in Australia and they are one of the main contributors to the bleaching of the coral reefs (from one of the by-products of shale oil mining/refining) up in Queensland.

BP are the only oil company that have committed to not using shale oil anytime in the future. Hence I only buy from BP and I only buy 98 RON ULP (Ultimate 98) or 95 RON PULP (Premium) only if there is no ultimate.

[boosted_K2]

ive been running around the BP site for about 20 mins now and cannot seem to find where their main suppliers are at, all their info is locked in PDF and XLS files, my acrobat reader isnt working and you need a commercial business program to open XLS... so if someone else would like to venture into a little of this info BP is a good place to start.

[NEVERSTOP]

Bp is the only gas station I will use when I am not using turbo blue

[Mage]

Because anything related to the middle east = terrorism, right?

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

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Because anything related to the middle east = terrorism, right?

I think that what they're saying is that if you buy from stations that import middle eastern oil, they're prices are likely to be higher than those who dont because of the price gauging thats associated with middle-eastern oil at the moment.

*EDIT- i see what you mean though, i dont disagree, it's kinda presumptuous, but then again, lots of our oil probably comes from Iraqi oil fields

This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Feb 23, 2003 - 10:44 PM

[Neipas09]

I bet there is alot of oil in canada not being used. The USA should just leave Iraq alone and take over canada instead!

[Mage]

QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Feb 23, 2003 - 8:41 PM)

QUOTE Because anything related to the middle east = terrorism, right? I think that what they're saying is that if you buy from stations that import middle eastern oil, they're prices are likely to be higher than those who dont because of the price gauging thats associated with middle-eastern oil at the moment. *EDIT- i see what you mean though, i dont disagree, it's kinda presumptuous, but then again, lots of our oil probably comes from Iraqi oil fields

Basically the idea is, if you're buying gas that ultimately comes from the middle east, you're supporting "terrorism" because obviously every single middle eastern government supports terror and wants to stab americans in the face. While nearly all are highly corrupt, it does disservice to the actual people living under those governments because it dehumanizes and demonizes them.

[Neipas09]

This is major fukin bullshat!!!

To say buying gas is supporting terrorism in Iraq is the same to say paying taxes is to support terrorism in japan. After japan bombed pearl harbor and we nuked the fuk out of them, we started sending them a sufferage check (whatever it's called) for their pain and suffering. This is crap that people start to try to make a point when in fact it's just diarea coming out of their mouth.

[CruwL]

k saying buy gas supports terrisim is like a tv add we have that says buying weed suports terrorism

[1_Winged_Angel]

I say buying oil from Bush is supporting a terrorist

Don't Hate! Nader 2008!

This post has been edited by 1_Winged_Angel: Feb 24, 2003 - 12:28 AM

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (1_Winged_Angel @ Feb 23, 2003 - 10:26 PM)

I say buying oil from Bush is supporting a terrorist Don't Hate! Nader 2008!

right on bro.

when I was at the protests in DC I saw a sign that said "bomb texas, they have oil too", I think that slogan works nicely in this case.

[boosted_K2]

the whole point im getting at here was lost. all im stating that its a known fact that last year the middle easern oil exporting countries (hell if i remember their technical group name) got togeather and decided to cut back on US oil exporting, thus, the 1.50 we were paying at times last year... there was a law of sorts that the UN enforced saying these countries were not alot to do this for their personal profit... well aparently in the alure of the oncoming war (which seems to be becoming more and more inevitable everyday) they are doing this once again. then gas companies who distribute in the states are realizing what is happening hike them up even more, thus creating our rediculus 1.70+ gas prices... im just stating which companies dont import from the middle east...

[Neipas09]

What the hell is Nader 2008?

[95STCelica]

Nader is supposedly one of the next guys running for president. I also heard that Colin Powell is running in 2008 too? I buy from Sunoco just cuz they are the only place around here that has 94 Octane

At 1.69 a gallon, that aint half bad

[rlan214]

QUOTE (Cragspider @ Feb 22, 2003 - 8:12 PM)

Ok I have one ? I know that Amoco was bought out by BP. But BP buys there own oil, and they use Amoco gas? So whats up with this. Cause I by form BP. Bryan

me too

[1_Winged_Angel]

The group of arab nations exporting oil is called OPEC. They may have raised prices on oil, but the rate at which the US fuel market taxes the oil is the real ripoff. Oil from OPEC is still the cheapest and best source for oil in the world. On average, each barrell coming out of OPEC is about $16 per barrell, and oil from west Texas is about 14.75 per barrell (but they don't import it) each barrell holds 42 gallons that means you should be paying 38 cents per gallon if they were non-profit. So if you look at it in perspective, the United States uses 19.7 million BARRELLS per day, each barrell at 1.50/gallon is a oh well, you do the math

[boosted_K2]

$1,241,100,000 @ $1.50 a gallon total .... $1,406,580,000 @ $1.70 .... $1,414,854,000 @ $1.71 (profit increase of $8,274,000 for charging $0.01 extra.)
$315,200,000 total to import
$925,900,000 cash profit (@ $1.50 per gal) used for refining, salary/paychecks, shipping, taxes, profit.

(EDIT:) ALL NUMBERS ARE PER DAY.

and were not even paying close to $1.50 right now.

whered you get the info from??

This post has been edited by K2_Celica: Feb 24, 2003 - 11:18 AM

[95STCelica]

I want an electric car, i am sick of paying for gas

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Werd......I hope they make hydrogen cars soon, at least then you would feel some power while you drive ......im so sick and tired of these gas prices tho, almost a buck 70 at the pumps is absurd.

[Tony-94]

Man, you wouldn't like to pay for gas in the UK. Currently the price of gas is about £3.75/gallon . I make that over $5/galllon. This is mostly because the government take 80% in tax .. Makes your $1.70 seem cheap.

[x_itchy_b_x]

You guys know that in Yellow Stone nation park there are huge oil deposits (they think) but are to afraid to harvest it because it will effect animal and wildlife or sumthing.... anyon eles hear sumthing like that????