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post Jul 21, 2004 - 3:02 PM
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just wondering what some of you guys witha turbo gt are running in the 1/4
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post Jul 21, 2004 - 3:27 PM
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my guess would be round a low 15 runnin round 6psi

but thats a guess
post Jul 21, 2004 - 3:35 PM
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Do you mean swapped to 3S-GTE or the 5S-FTE guys?


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post Jul 21, 2004 - 3:41 PM
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since he just said gt turbo gues im guessing 5S-FTE
post Jul 21, 2004 - 4:08 PM
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Just like dyno, I dont think any of the 5sfte guys have been to the track yet.. But I think o8's about right for 15 with 6 psi.. probably high 14s with 8; low 14s/high 13s with 12
post Jul 21, 2004 - 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (shid @ Jul 21, 2004 - 9:08 PM)
Just like dyno, I dont think any of the 5sfte guys have been to the track yet.. But I think o8's about right for 15 with 6 psi.. probably high 14s with 8; low 14s/high 13s with 12

unless you did a bunch of **** i dont think your engine is even going to hold more then 9-10 psi with out blowing somthing. i would also say around a 15 .. with out blowing up your motor
post Jul 22, 2004 - 12:22 AM
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Dude, a turbo 5s with 8psi is going to be bucking 200 hp... Easy 14's I'd think.
post Jul 22, 2004 - 12:35 AM
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I hope to find out in augest. 6,10 and 15psi


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post Jul 22, 2004 - 6:58 AM
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im running 9.20 in the 1/8th at about 9-10 psi buts mines auto and all and i dont havve it tuned!


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post Jul 22, 2004 - 7:10 AM
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1/8 is 1/2 of a 1/4, that would add up to about an 18.4


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post Jul 22, 2004 - 7:16 AM
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you retard lol you dont double it lol there are convertor somewhere on the net i believe that adds up to like high 14's low 15's but im nto sure im sure someone on here can find a convertor!


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post Jul 22, 2004 - 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Jul 22, 2004 - 12:10 PM)
1/8 is 1/2 of a 1/4, that would add up to about an 18.4

haha, remember you have to factor in that your traveling faster in the second half and in the first half you have to accel from a stop.
post Jul 22, 2004 - 9:51 PM
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QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jul 22, 2004 - 5:22 AM)
Dude, a turbo 5s with 8psi is going to be bucking 200 hp... Easy 14's I'd think.

I think you would have to do alot to the engine to get that power.. like internals an all.. if its stock internals.. im gunna guess around 160hp
post Jul 22, 2004 - 9:58 PM
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^ so your tellin me gt guys are spending that much money for less than 30 hp.


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post Jul 23, 2004 - 12:26 AM
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i got like 700 in my turbo kit and im producing id sayaround 220 - 225 at 10 psi so yea i think its worth 700


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post Jul 24, 2004 - 1:08 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 23, 2004 - 2:51 AM)
QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jul 22, 2004 - 5:22 AM)
Dude, a turbo 5s with 8psi is going to be bucking 200 hp...  Easy 14's I'd think.

I think you would have to do alot to the engine to get that power.. like internals an all.. if its stock internals.. im gunna guess around 160hp

Uhm, no.

Stock internals at 5-6spi should be around 200; and perfectly safe on the engine. Stock engine internals will have trouble at around 12 psi; THATS WHY THE TOYOTA ECU HAS A FUEL CUT AT 12 PSI FOR OUR ENGINES
post Jul 24, 2004 - 1:17 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 23, 2004 - 2:51 AM)
QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jul 22, 2004 - 5:22 AM)
Dude, a turbo 5s with 8psi is going to be bucking 200 hp...  Easy 14's I'd think.

I think you would have to do alot to the engine to get that power.. like internals an all.. if its stock internals.. im gunna guess around 160hp

Man the 7afe makes 160whp on stock internals/fuel with that boost (dyno proven), so the larger displacement motor with more horsepower to start with "should" make atleast 190-200whp depending on tune and set up.
post Jul 24, 2004 - 1:45 PM
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QUOTE (Einhander @ Jul 24, 2004 - 6:17 PM)
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QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jul 22, 2004 - 5:22 AM)
Dude, a turbo 5s with 8psi is going to be bucking 200 hp...  Easy 14's I'd think.

I think you would have to do alot to the engine to get that power.. like internals an all.. if its stock internals.. im gunna guess around 160hp

Man the 7afe makes 160whp on stock internals/fuel with that boost (dyno proven), so the larger displacement motor with more horsepower to start with "should" make atleast 190-200whp depending on tune and set up.

ok, you seriously think you can get 200 whp, what are you smoking, that is going to be like, 240 hp... I doubt that, until some one thinks they can prove me wonrg, your all smoking somthing. first off, a j-spec engine, with performance heads and a better compression ratio, better internals, and tuned to runn power, not efficancy, only gets 220 hp at the crank... good luck guys, an dont be diapointed.
post Jul 24, 2004 - 5:44 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 24, 2004 - 6:45 PM)
QUOTE (Einhander @ Jul 24, 2004 - 6:17 PM)
QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 23, 2004 - 2:51 AM)
QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jul 22, 2004 - 5:22 AM)
Dude, a turbo 5s with 8psi is going to be bucking 200 hp...  Easy 14's I'd think.

I think you would have to do alot to the engine to get that power.. like internals an all.. if its stock internals.. im gunna guess around 160hp

Man the 7afe makes 160whp on stock internals/fuel with that boost (dyno proven), so the larger displacement motor with more horsepower to start with "should" make atleast 190-200whp depending on tune and set up.

ok, you seriously think you can get 200 whp, what are you smoking, that is going to be like, 240 hp... I doubt that, until some one thinks they can prove me wonrg, your all smoking somthing. first off, a j-spec engine, with performance heads and a better compression ratio, better internals, and tuned to runn power, not efficancy, only gets 220 hp at the crank... good luck guys, an dont be diapointed.

200 whp is fairly easy ding, I dont think anyone here is going to be disappointed except you..
post Jul 24, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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Im not going to be, I know better then to turbo a ****ty designed engine. I mean if you guys can do it, then great, I would like to see some dyno's ...
post Jul 24, 2004 - 9:45 PM
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Look up zipstrip's. . . . i think he posted dyno slips on celica.net. If a car that dyno's at 95 wheel horsepower stock; dyno's at 160whp(tq was a lot higher) running 8psi, then the 5sfe that is suppose to have 130 stock horse power will dyno at 8psi atleast higher, displacement of the engine does add into the fact, ya know?
Also check out the mr2 boards, a few of those guys have turbo'ed their 5s with around the 190-200whp range and not a lot was done to their motors. I've been on both celica.net and here for a long time and i've noticed if it's not a 3sgte then it gets no respect, when a lot of people have done amazing things with the stock motors, Sure not in the celica, but the corolla(7a) and mr2/camry (5sfe). And just to add to it visit rippmods, their super charger makes 180-200whp depending on how you tune it, Stock motor.


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post Jul 24, 2004 - 11:52 PM
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Remember, thats a 7a
post Jul 25, 2004 - 9:35 AM
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Yea, so a 5s should dyno atleast 30whp more, putting it at atleast 190. I don't know why i am defending the 5s, I drive a st, lol. wink.gif
post Jul 25, 2004 - 11:38 AM
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so, now exactly what is done to that 7afe... you guys are just talking about slapping on a turbo.. an someone said 700 bucks.. yeah right.. .. maybe if you guys were to swap out the heads.. keep in mind, that the 5s, an 7a still have a ****ty deisgned head for a non performance engine.
post Jul 25, 2004 - 2:00 PM
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Actually, the design of the 7a head is rather good for boost. you can read more into that on club4ag.com,,, or net or wherever.

I think it was DGperformance that was putting down such mass power with his turbo 5s... but he got greedy and blew it to pieces. wink.gif

And the 3s makes that power safely and with long life and small displacement.

the 5s makes the power with shorter life, higher compression, and larger displacement. and yes, every bit of displacement you can get helps.

The 5s is a capable motor. and with that 220ish whp. you are making some Rompin Stompin honda bashin torque.
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 25, 2004 - 4:38 PM)
so, now exactly what is done to that 7afe...  you guys are just talking about slapping on a turbo.. an someone said 700 bucks.. yeah right..  .. maybe if you guys were to swap out the heads.. keep in mind, that the 5s, an 7a still have a ****ty deisgned head for a non performance engine.

Please Read what i wrote again, zipstrips motor was stock, NO FUEL mods, NO head work.
Yea i completely forgot about dg's car, his was a 5s as well.

Btw the way i have around 900 bucks into the turbo kit i have for the 7a complete list of items:
ihi rhb5 turbo (small and quick spool on the 7afe can boost to 25psi)=150 (with rebuild)
walbro fuel pump (100 bucks)
4agze pistons (125)
jgsturbo- manifold(150)
modified probe injectors (from turbo model) (100)
arp head bolts ( i don't have receipt, but wasn't a lot)
ebc= (used one) (100)
guages (boost and afr)= (80)
for a grand total of 805 bucks with the head bolts (only other thing done was thicker head gasket, before i ever started to turbo. the other 90 is random small thing you need.
i am awaiting intercooler and bov
Just the above listed parts should be good for reliable 8-10psi, If the car is not driven to death and poorly maintained.

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You can make 200 on stock internals easily, and for around 1500 dollars.

If you spend 3000 dollars and upgrade the internals with lower compression pistons, some head work; a decent turbo, nice exhaust, maybe a stroker kit or a rebuilt block, 250 should be well within reach
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here is my dyno reading:

Torque = 611Nm
Torque = 451Lbs/Ft
Power (Kw) = 172Kw
Power (Hp) = 230Hp
Speed 135Mph

Obviosly these figures are @ the wheels......running 8psi


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post Jul 27, 2004 - 11:14 AM
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for the 7afte guys http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14314
from what i've seen so far on the dyno stock 5sfe would put down only 115 horse
mine put out about 98 horse at the wheels stock for only being rated at 115 at the crank


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post Jul 27, 2004 - 12:02 PM
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700 buck is right! I love people that call me a liar i swear why would i lie about how much i got in it LMAO rolleyes.gif

Price List

3sgte manifold
3sgte oil pan
3sgte downpipe
CT-26 Turbo
$320

Piping
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295 injectors
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2 Bar
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Final Price = $697 SO HA UNDER $700

I ran up to 5-6 psi with that

Since then i have installed a 2.5 from the front all the way back and no cats and new plug and a 3sgte intercooler in the front and im running 10-12 psi at the track normal and i have hit 13-14 before but i run about 5-6 everyday!

OH 8-10 psi will outrun a stock ssay 98 cobra from a stop so estimate from there!

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post Jul 27, 2004 - 6:28 PM
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QUOTE (JWalk1818 @ Jul 27, 2004 - 5:02 PM)
Since then i have installed a 2.5 from the front all the way back and no cats and new plug and a 3sgte intercooler in the front

You do know the 3sgte's intercooler is a TMIC, right?
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He probably meant a MKIII Supra intercooler as its more commonly used in our cases.


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NOOOOO again i meant the one off a MR2 3sgte yes its top mount but i front mounted and if you dont belive me ask John mynseyes i dotn think thats right spelling but on the other hand he used the same one! SO WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE biggrin.gif


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