 3SGTE Swap,what is the easiest GEN to swap? |
 Aug 6, 2004 - 9:26 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%)  |
What is the easiest gen to install?? I am looking to purchase a 3sgte and have my uncle swap it within a week,He says he can do it and is a certified Toyota Mechanic...So,I am gonna let him tackle it. He often says to me..Why didn't you just buy a Supra..until I mentioned I could do a swap and he's like..find a motor! I will do it!
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Aug 6, 2004 - 9:45 AM
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i would say the 2nd gen (90-93) just because of availability of parts..the first gen is getting old..and the 3rd gen is tougher to get parts for because they were never in the USA
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Aug 6, 2004 - 10:50 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
2nd is going to be your best bet .. There for sale everywhere .. witch means the price will be a hella lot cheaper..
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Aug 6, 2004 - 12:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '04 From phoenix az Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeh 2nd gen would be best but make sure you get one with a lsd u dont want to spend all your time and money on the motor and not being able to tranfer it to the ground.
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Aug 6, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Why would I want a tab of Acid for my engine?...
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Aug 6, 2004 - 12:51 PM
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Do you know what a limited slip differential is, and what it does? That's what he's talking about.
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Aug 6, 2004 - 8:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Actually,not really. I was trying to make a joke outta the LSD abbrev. til someone said what it was! Thanks Coomer!
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Aug 6, 2004 - 10:32 PM
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 or so he says
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Aug 7, 2004 - 11:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
in sure your uncle THINKS he can...id talk to Qatar though and possibly work out getting the new harness...after that, im sure you uncle CAN do the rest though
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Aug 8, 2004 - 6:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I dunno man...He's very talented..I've seen him build some sick cars.
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Aug 8, 2004 - 12:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
ok, just a suggestion...it's supposed to be the hardest part?
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Aug 9, 2004 - 7:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
It's never good to doubt a man that can build a car. I trust him.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 9:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
get a 2nd gen USDM MR2 clip, then you can have the axles and tranny to boot. if you are lucky, find a 94 or 95 with OEM LSD
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Aug 10, 2004 - 9:24 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i know why everyone says 2nd gen is the way to go....but id like to know what would make the 3rd gen a harder swap? i mean, 99% of the wiring would just plug in...same fuse box...same interrior plugs, etc...
the only thing i can see harder, is finind regular plats like distributor cap, timing belt, etc...because that motor was never sold here. This post has been edited by lagos: Aug 10, 2004 - 9:25 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I have $2,300 towards the swap. Would that do it?
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
keep saving and doing research ...have at least 4,000 before you start. its better to have more money then to take your car apart and realize u ran out of cash to finish the project.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 5:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Eh. I am itching for the SPEED though!!
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Aug 12, 2004 - 12:43 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The 3rd gen's wiring is just as hard. Sure the interior plugs are basically the same but you must remember that the 3rd gen was originally in a RHD vehicle while we drive LHD. The harness has to be extended or shortened in certain areas to make everything fit. Plus Japanese vehicles have less emission standards. I know when my dad and I did a KL-ZE swap into our 96 Mazda 626, some of sensors were different and the wriring for them was different. All of the 3SGTE swaps are difficult but out of the 3 (actually 4 if you consider the 3sgte from the new Curren as it has more power than the 3rd gen although I don't think anyone's tried it as of yet) the 2nd gen is the easiest since the availability of parts is greater.
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Aug 12, 2004 - 6:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Ah well..Maybe I will do that over the winter.
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Aug 12, 2004 - 7:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
having to extend the harness it a myth. i just cut a new hole in the firewall for my swap and it worked out great.
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Aug 12, 2004 - 6:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well it isnt really myth, its just for people who dont want to cut into the firewall 
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Aug 12, 2004 - 8:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
yeah...but the way i see it is...you can run into so many hard to find problems if one of those extentions ever goes bad. also, toyota uses shielded wires for certan things and its almost impossible to know if u are extending with the right wire.
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Aug 13, 2004 - 6:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Ack. Anyways...With everyone scaring me out of it.. I just bought a 92 Celica GT 5-Speed Liftback...for fun.. If I can get the cash over winter to do the car..atleast I won't have to have it done within a week!ehe
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