New Celica in 2006, Just read it in a JPN magazine Options

[ST-204]

Toyota gonna release the 8th gen Celica in 2006, the toppest model in the line is a 250hp with 2AZ-GTE engine GT-4.
The concept car had already been showed in Australia auto show before.

For me, I don't think that is a good hp for 8th generation Celica, because of Japan has already cut off the limited 280hp rule, there are so many car manufacturers gonna release their flag-ship's car in about 320-350hp later, such as EVO IX is about 320hp, WRX Sti should be 330hp, and also Nissian S16 is 280hp. As a result, the lastest Celica should have at least 300hp in my mind!!

Do u guys agree with it??

[Akimbo]

No. I don't even believe it. Scan it. Already been shown at the Australia auto show, gee, never seen it. Never heard anything about an S16, or an EVO IX. It's all speculation and rumors to get sales.

[ST-204]

Not really, dude
Coz EVO and STi has already launched their future plan in 2006, so I am pretty sure those cars should have at least 320 and 330 hp.
By the way, S16 has already showed the pics in some JPN magazines, I will show u the spec and some pics later.

[Akimbo]

Seriously, most of those "JPN magazines" are nothing but false leads, lies, rumors and Photoshops...

I'm not trying to piss on your thread but I'm being honest. The eigth gen will never make it to the states, that's the problem. I'm sure there will be one, and it will kickass. And for some reason, we WON'T get it:(

This post has been edited by Akimbo: Aug 7, 2004 - 12:06 AM

[ST-204]

First of all, thx ur honest!!
But I can tell u, those information I have already proved by some stuffs in JPN.
Whether u belive it or not, They should be come true later!! Let's C

[Hym3n]

Two things:

A) I've seen [actual] pictures of the Evo IX and spec drawings/rough production version of the Evo X. There are several Evo enthusiasts on the 3000GT/Stealth message boards I post on, so I get to read up a bit on the Evo's as well.

B) There will likely be an 8th generation Celica, obviously, and probably a 9th as well! So what! The Celica has stopped production in the UNITED STATES, that doesn't mean that it's not going to keep on coming in other countries. As for having already been shown at the Australian Auto Show, I highly doubt that, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there was a new generation Celica. Didn't they continue the MKIV past '98 in Japan?

-Brian

[ST-204]

[shid]

.. All rumors.

[Exile04]

ya and another thing that thing is Ugly as hell and it is a emmarssment to Celicas

[saleeka]

hmm, this could be true, imo... ive already been hearing things about the S16, so who knows?. I promise you there will be an 8th gen celica for japan, and this dosent seem a too far off proposition- consider this- japan dosent fall in love with retro styling, thats pretty much the case with cars in this class, and even if it were only 250 hp, the celi would most certainly be lighter than evo rex rivals, although you really couldent call them that, seeing as toyota has NO plans to return to WRC anytime soon. Speculation, yes, but not too far off the mark, if you ask me... make the front end a little less offensive, smooth out the fender flaring and rocker panneling, reduce the in your face factor by 20%, and it coulld very well be an evolution of the 7th gen...

This post has been edited by saleeka: Aug 7, 2004 - 12:47 AM

[tufy]

celicas are no more at same catagory with evos and subarus. toyota is no more racing at wrc. toyota is racing with bmw, mercedes and honda

This post has been edited by tufy: Aug 7, 2004 - 1:31 AM

[Magic]

To have 8th Gen of the Celica its very nice.What i dont understand guys is,why we are not happy with the 250BHP Power??I mean,i prefer driving a car with 250bhp and be reliable and upgradeable than driving an WRX (Used to have one 280BHP Version 4 for 2 months,broke) and spending all your money every few 1000kms repairing that crap...
Toyota btw its coming back to the WRC in 2 years:)...a Toyota Tunner from England told me that.......

[neophile]

The Sportivo Coupe concept was reviewed in a NZ magazine a few months ago - the reviewer actually test drove it and got all his information from the car's creators - Toyota Australia.


Here is some of the info from the article:

The Sportivo Coupe Concept Car was test driven at the Melborne Motor Show by Bruce Newton and reviewed in New Zealand Autocar - June 2004 (page 48-54)

"The Sportivo Coupe is a concept car worth over $1 million dollars and was created in Australia.

It is a true concept. Maybe some ideas and elements will eventually appear somewhere but you'll never see a Sportivo Coupe on Auckland's southern motorway (or any other highway).

It is very much a flag waving exercise for Toyota Australia as it seeks to introduce itself to a new, youger generation - so much so that many of the ideas which shaped the car and its functions originated in a series of information-gathering exercises involving around 100 14-18 year old teenagers. The teens were first sampled to gain their initial thoughts on the positives and negatives of their lifestyles, and then were recalled about three weeks later to give their thoughts on the 30-40 exterior and interior designs developed by Toyota Australia based on their input.

The Sportivo came together in just 30 weeks and was approved in July after Toyota Australia wanted another project following their first successful concept car the X-Runner in 2003

The mechanical basis of Sportivo is from the Japanese Camry (Hokkaido-spec) and features the same constant four wheel drive system as the RAV4. The 4 speed automatic gearbox has been swapped out for a 5 speed manual (this necessitated a change of the rear differential to match it).

Toyota Australia supplier APS was commissioned to seriously pep up the familiar 2AZ-FE 2.4 litre inline four-cylinder engine. This they did courtesy of a Garrett GT25 turbocharger, intercooler and custom exhaust system among other improvements. The Sportivo pumps out 180KW at 560rpm and 305Nm at 4500rpm - that's without any attention paid to the engine internals and only rudimentary ECU re-mapping.

The Sportivo Coupe Concept made the Melborne, Adelaide and Perth motor shows and is now off to Japan for a first-hand inspection at Toyota headquarters, then it goes to the Middle East for a tour of Toyota Australia's most important export market".


As for future Evo's (from Sept 2004 NZ Performance Car Magazine): As the natural successor to the Evolution XIII MR, the Evo IX is estimated to make its JDM debut in 2005. However Mitsubishi Head Office high ranking officials seem hell-bent on hyping the Evo X, even though it doesn't look set to break cover until 2007.

The Evolution X, a concept picture of which was recently flashed on a big screen at an unrelated Mitsubishi press conference, will take on a fresh look and run on a new 4wd chassis arrangement. Whether or not the X will use the 4G63T engine that's been in action right from the very start of the Evolution series seems unclear.

This post has been edited by neophile: Aug 7, 2004 - 8:19 AM

[FAQdaWorld]

[boosted_K2]

[Supersprynt]

Toyota already has announced no more celicas are mr2s after 2005, why is this still being discussed?

[turboinduction]

Keep in mind - the 8th gen is no longer being made in the UNITED STATES. Japan however is a different story. Heres one prototype picture.



I know this because my friend who washes cars at a dealership told me

This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 7, 2004 - 10:57 AM

[tufy]

this car looks like a nissan 300 z

[Outsider]

Sportivo Coupe link

[ST-204]

[ST-204]

[shid]

[tranxendz]

The protype picture of the 8th gen celica looks sweet! So they are not going to sell those in US? That sucks. I was ready to put down 5 g's. LoL

[TRDCelicaFan]

There may well be an 8th generation Celica (read as: damn well better be *waving fist in the air*), even if its release will be limited to certain territories (I suppose there are always grey imports...?) As for a 250bhp claim for a GT-Four-esque variant that is plenty. A little higher would be nice to show that it's actually progressing beyond the ST-205, but still plenty. Take it too much higher and you're cramping any future Supra's style. Assuming that either a new Celica or Supra will come to pass of course...

Going back to the "Celica/MR2/Toyota are doomed" threads well, I have faith in Toyota. I don't think they'll make a mess of things. Not after all these years of making a name for themselves in the performance car sector. There'll be something to fill the void when the 7GC and MR2 Roadster (MR-S) eventually bow out, it will just be an added bonus (for me at least) if it happens to have a Celica, MR2 or Supra badge on it. But if the worst does come to the worst, nothing can ever take away from the greatness of some of the cars they've given to us over the years...your AW11s, MA70s, ST-185s and 205s, ZZT231s, SW20s, JZA80s and many more besides. They're among my favourite cars and that probably isn't about to change regardless of what Toyota is doing now. As for the future, we're just gonna have to wait and see rather than wildly speculating. We probably won't get it right anyway.

Currently accumulating funds for: a black Celica GT (almost there!)

[Supersprynt]

I say we start a petition that we want the Celica to continue in the US.

[shid]

Naw, this is good for us, now our cars won't lose resale value as quickly

[Jen]

[o8poa8o]

I agree w/ tranxedz and jen i like the BLACK 8th gen celica, that other pics are ugly IMO i'd never drive it. the black one reminds me of a SC430 for some reason maybe cause the head lights?

[Consynx]

its fake
the picture of it on the platform is chopped
the man standing in front of it has to well defined lines
and to make the job easier the person trned his shirt a lot whited to select it w/o needing to get all black int he are as well
no creases on shirt, crappy lines by car

i just think it's BS...so im picking anything i can

[vangSTa_celica]

The supposed 8th gen here looks like a Dodge Intrepid mated with a 350z.

[o8poa8o]

[celimanST]

Well I think the new celica will end up in the US for one main reason believe it or the celica is the their best seller. I have talked to several dealers and seen some stats so I really dont think they would bite the hand that feed them.


William

[97Celica]

[o8poa8o]

the might use blue lights for a Drawing of a Concept.

[neoklis]

stop hating guys. This is only a step to the right direction. I have faith in Toyota.They wouldn't become the company they are now if they didnt have a good strategy made out.

[van95st]

[uzthedentist]

hands up how many of you have 30k to spend on a gen 4 gt4 if it comes out? lol not me for opne

[turboinduction]

I have enough to buy one after 5 years of depreciation! And thus restates the reason to discontinue it.

[o8poa8o]

if i could get a loan that can be paid off over the next 12 years i could lol

[SportivoConcepts]

Okay just to clear things up, that will never be a Celica, it will not go on a tour of Japan or the Middle East.

That was a concept between Toyota of Austraila and Hella lighting Corp.

Also I deal directly with Toyota of Japan, as well as Toyota Motor Corp USA, so my info is very credible.... you can go to ToyotaNation.com and you can see that I have reported everything that Toyota is doing months before even the magazines or Toyota announces it.

I was at the auto show and wrote an article on it back in Febuary of 04.

There is no way that the Sportivo Coupe will be a Celica, like like saying the Volta is the Supra

Sportivo Concept Coupe Article

[remjay]

that concept drawing has been around for awhile now...before the annoucement of discontinuing the mr2-s and the celica.

[0Re0]

Thats really sad.

[red_94gts]

[celicaboston1983]

damn that car is nice. btw is mitsu even gonna still be in business in 2006????

[Akimbo]

2006 will be the year for the new Eclipse.