 GT Vs. Vtech, slightly moded 5s-fe versus a DOHC Vtec |
 Aug 10, 2004 - 12:09 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jun 4, '04 From DeKalb Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
So i dont normaly post... ever haha.... but i need your guys help on this one. I drive a standard 5s-fe celica with intake, cat-back, plugs wires, and stage 2 clutch. Now how might that stand against a fairly stock DOHC Vtec CRX? I dont have alot of experience against Vtec's so i must ask.. Im fairly sure my engine wont hold up that well of a fight but i would like to make sure... I bet im leaving alot of important information out of this but yeah... just some advice thats all. Thanks...
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:11 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Im guessing thats the b16 with 160hp .. you will hang with him, but once he hits v-tec in like second.. hes gunna be gone.. the only thing you have on him is trq.. but im sure hes got both wight and hp on his side.. I would say race him for fun, dont bet.. and only do it in day light where you know its safe..
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You'd do ok.. It might be a little close.. the weight thing would probably cement it. Hondas have no torque, but he's got the hp advantage; and you've lost some torque with your catback.. etc... But the vtec would probably clinch it for the honda.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
keep in mind, that its in a crx.. so its prolly only like 2100 lbs or somthing stupid like that
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From New York City, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Crx > GT
Like doug said, weight & hp. Comparing the GT to the CRX, the weight difference is 700-1klbs depending on model, (HX DX etc.) plus 160hp compared to 135-140hp. We can eat hondas sometimes but not when their so light..I say still go for it, always a good experience & any experience is a learning one. This post has been edited by Meonspeed: Aug 10, 2004 - 12:27 AM |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:28 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 19, '03 From Buffalo,NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
are you sure its a crx? ive beaten a crx b4 but it probley wasent vetc. so im really not sure.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:33 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
old skool CRXs = easy as hell to beat
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:36 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Depends, I'd vote CRX. CRX's are fun little cars too. I thing the VTEC would take the win though...
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From New York City, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
ENGINE HF DX Si DOHC VTEC <Car models
Valve Train: SOHC 8-Valve SOHC 16-Valve SOHC 16-Valve DOHC 16V DOHC 16V VTEC Engine Type D15B2 D15B2 D16A6 D16A8 B16A(ZCG) Horsepower @ rpm 62 @ 4500 92 @ 6000 108 @ 6000 130*@ 6800 160*@ 7600 Edit: Trimmed it. This post has been edited by Meonspeed: Aug 10, 2004 - 12:43 AM |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:44 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 1, '03 From LB gizzie, cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
crx....i eat them everyday...
anyways..i raced a crx before with my GT and i barely lost to him... i mean..c'mon our cars isn't that heavy...is it? -------------------- [color=#FF0000] I MISS MY RED BABY =(
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From New York City, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
ST/GT's are around 2,7k lbs & Converts are 2.8k lbs. The most a CRX has weighted are the 91' crx's with 2,1klbs compared to 1,7k from the first year made.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From New York City, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Edit: Double post, sorry.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:47 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 1, '03 From LB gizzie, cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
according to edmunds.com... our car is 2500ish...Lbs -------------------- [color=#FF0000] I MISS MY RED BABY =(
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:48 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From New York City, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Well it's probably right since the #'s where off the top of my head except for the crx weights since I checked them while getting the list of hp differences between the models.
Edit: Weights of crx's WEIGHT HF DX Si DOHC VTEC 1985 (lb/kg) 1713/778 1819/826 1883/855 1986 (lb/kg) 1713/778 1819/826 1953/886 1987 (lb/kg) 1713/778 1865/847 1978/898 1988 (lb/kg) 1819/826 1922/873 2017/916 1989 (lb/kg) 1834/851 2048/930 2138/970 1990 (lb/kg) 1967/893 2103/954 2174/987 1991 (lb/kg) 1967/893 2103/954 2174/987 Showed no weight for the last 2 but they cant be too far from the ones shown. This post has been edited by Meonspeed: Aug 10, 2004 - 12:50 AM |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 1:13 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ummm... you'll get smacked bad. I don't even know why it would even be in question... FYI: The CRX's NEVER came stock with a DOHC Vtec motor (not in the US at least), which is most likely a B16A. It's gotta be a swap. Anyways... they DON'T NEED TORQUE. Torque is a pointless argument for those who at least want to compare something the Celica does have to something the B16A or Honda motors in general... do Not. It's a pointless argument... why? cause Honda trannies are geared REALLY short... they fly through their low-end band like nothing and will PULL CONSTANTLY in the high-end... so their overall torque band is not even used that much in a race situtation. A B16A swapped CRX is almost a GURANTEED 14 second car... so you'll be beat, bad. Very very bad. WHy do I know... because we at Thao's Smog and Automotive recently put together a B16A powered 95 Civic coupe... which weighs in the 2300-2400 pound neighborhood... and that sucker pulls like mad. It has not been tracked yet, but it can put 3 cars EASY on my MR2... which is a high-15 second car...
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Aug 10, 2004 - 1:58 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
a b16 swap into a crx or civic dx hatch is no joke at all
one took me by suprise in my WRX. 1st and 2nd i had him bad, but if we started from 3rd, i could barely keep up, 4th, he was gone. then we came at a light, so i just planned to take off quickly, not launch, lights started changing he revved it up real high, i expected him to light up one tire as i left him behind but when he dumped it, it chirped the tires a bit and just took off. i let off halfway through 2nd, because i knew i was out of the area where i had the huge advantage, lol i pulled along side him and asked him what he had 1995 civc dx hatch, gutted with a b16 swap and all the external bolt ons. not to mention he was a small guy and his GF was small too. in my car were 2 of my friends and my fat ass, lol ~650lbs of human meat in the car. do i hate myself, no, under better circumstances(ie, my heavy and big friends not in the car) im dead positive my car was faster from a stop but dont underestimate hondas, i did, and my friends dont let me forget it. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 10, 2004 - 2:41 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
True that... just the other night (Saturday) one of my car buddies ran his Toda LSVTEC Civic Hatch for the first time since rebuilding... and it was simply awesome. The overlap just sounds awesome... He could probably throw down a 13 second pass... considering he beat a S/C 5.0... but yeah... don't underestimate (some) Honda motors with bolt-ons... ;] -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Aug 10, 2004 - 5:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you guys forgot to bring up the idea that the gt redline is around 5800 while the b16A is 8200 rpm.. so that is around 2400 rpm more he gets in 1st gear.. while the GT is bogging in second gear. And you have to remember the peak power for the b16 is at the highest RPM while with the GT's peak power is around 5k I'm not too sure about the 5sfe engine cuz i dont own one. But My friend does own a b16A1 91 CRX si so i know loads of info on them.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 7:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
The other week I raced a B16 swapped 97/98 Civic hatch and it wasnt all that impressive, then again i have a 3s so its a lil diferent, but if i was with the 5s he woulda won.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 9:33 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol - you'll get spanked
But DO NOT FORGET - you'll still look better at the finishline- even in 2nd place. You'll need a turbo at FWHP of 200 to keep up/beat a b16c3/5 swapped rex. Things are incredibly light, have higher HP, and top end in no mans land. Think about it. A STOCK Honda Civic EX. Its SOHC and has roughly 10 less HP. That car and a Celica GT are about even. Now add a DOHC and boost HP up 40, then drop 300lbs.... now you'll be reading the letters of a 15 year car through your front windshield. |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 9:49 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '03 From Portland, OR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Doesn't a GT redline at around the same spot as an ST @ 6500 RPM or so??? Not to say it will make a difference, but I'm pretty sure it's at least around or in the 6's |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I disagree with this, 200whp is alot, i think u can win with alot less than that. I mean I have ~240 at the crank and I literally stomped on him without downshifting or ne thing, so I think u can def. win with less than 200 at the wheels. -------------------- |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:09 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol, "you still look better at the finish line" Cuz that's what racing is all about right? Who looks better?
Once again Kwanza beats me to it. Yes, he'd own you like it was his job. I barely beat my friends's early 90s (CB7 chassis) F22 accord. I have time slips of us at the track and it was crazy close. Edit: Just so you know, F22's dont have vtec, and are sohc This post has been edited by SlowCelica94: Aug 10, 2004 - 10:09 AM -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:30 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah they redline at 6400rpm not 5800...check your redline marks on your tach man.
And trust me, dont underestimate CRX's. They're quick little cars. My WRX stock had problems at times running to the quarter with one and my first RX7 even had one CRX slip by it...so they are quick. Like everyone else said, don't waste your time or gas cuz you have no shot. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:33 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I agree with you. 200 WHP is alot. I said 200 Flywheel HP, but stated it as FWHP. I guess you could misunderstand that as Front-Wheel. Bad abbr. Edit:
Damn straight. It really comes down to the size of the stereo. This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 10, 2004 - 10:35 AM |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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No use goin to red line though. Peak power hits at 5.6k. |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:59 AM
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I've ridden in a '88 Civic sedan with a B16A with cams, exhaust, header, cold air intake, lightened flywheel, and a stage three clutch, and man that thing pulled hard. I'm not sure how fast it is on the track, but I'm sure it would smoke my car.
I've also ridden in a '92 Civic coupe with a B16A with intake and exhaust, and I think it'd be a very close race between him and I. He told me to call him when I go to the track and he'll race me there, because he thought my car was about the same as his too. Too bad I've got a battery in the trunk without an externally-mounted kill switch, otherwise I'd definitely hit the track and race him.  But yeah, Honda's DOHC VTEC engines are no joke. They're really good engines that are pretty quick. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Aug 10, 2004 - 11:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
As talking about this subject of the b16's.. My buddies has a del-sol V-tec, stock with the b16 .. An his car is quick.. you think I would own him with a 3s-ge, non beams.. Cause his is quick enough for me.. but i would also love to beat him..
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Yeah thats what i thought you meant, misunderstood. -------------------- |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I think u'd lose. -------------------- |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I raced my friends del sol Vtech. Yep, I lost. 3-4 cars me thinks. Till the top of third gear. Every time she hit high RPMs she pulled away like crazy.
EDIT: I might have lost by more. This post has been edited by LatinKraze: Aug 10, 2004 - 12:58 PM |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 12:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 18, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ya know, i raced a civic si the other day, and he BARLEY beet me, MAYBE a half of car length, and he didn't have that on me the whole time, we where teetering back and forth. i have a 95 st, if that helps anyone any.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 3:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
99+ model? if so, if probably wasnt really an SI -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 11, 2004 - 9:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
"Si" via auto store on a DX
Edit: Si almost has double the HP as your car This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 11, 2004 - 9:52 AM |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 11:31 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 18, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ya it was that body style(99), had an si sticker on the back, redlined at 7, i don't know of any other civic that does that, and the speedometer went kinda high i think it was like 160. and they aren't double the hp, they have like 160. an st on paper has 115. and the si's torque is ass, it's like 110, i have more then that. either way it was close, they aren't that fast so to the dude that started this post, go for it. turboinduction, if u dont' believe me check it : http://www.clubcivic.com/board/specs.php |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 11:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
99+ Civic SI's don't redline at 7k... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 11:36 AM
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The guy in the 99 Si could have been a sucky driver tho. A sorry driver can make any fast car drive like garbage. Unless its auto, then they just floor it.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 3:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Well I have a problem I got a crx turbo wanting to race all I know right now is that it has a t3 intercooler at 6-7 boost and striped inside what you think my chances are???
 also i add a underdrive pulley bigger mid pipe and up the boost to 6.5 -7
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Aug 11, 2004 - 4:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Civic Si (1999) HP -160 MAX HP - 7600 TRQ -111 MAX TRQ - 7000 0-60 7.2 Seconds Curb Weight - 2601 Celica ST (1995) HP -110 MAX HP -5600 TRQ 115 MAX TRQ -2800 0-60 10.1 Seconds Curb Weight -2415 Now comes the year differences. Your model is a 1995 whereas this Civic must of been a 1999 or 2000. Hondas put considerable power to the wheels in reference to their flywheel horse power. They have incredible top end power (note the max HP at 7600rpm). Your car has aged and the difference WHEEL HP is a guess at 60-65. So let me rephrase and say that a Si will have 60-70% more power than a 95 ST. Initial torque of both is almost identical, however the max trq for the Celica comes very fast. If I were to guess how this match would look, it would go like this: Both start Civic will pull forward Celica will pull towards front of civic (not quite there) Celica will shift Civic will hit VTEC and top end Celica will squint to read Civic license plate Not that I like Civics (because I dont) but you cant expect to believe a base model Celica from the mid-90's will beat a 2000 top model Si. If this were the case my GT should keep up with the S2000. EDIT: I'm not trying to call you a liar Psyko, but alot of people on the website claim they can beat all kinds of impossible cars. "I beat a GSX, Type-R integra" etc etc. It may of been a young kid with no driving experience. In this case, I can beat them with a slower car just due to strong differences in driving abilities, though a highly unlikely case. This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 11, 2004 - 4:55 PM |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 5:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well I friend of mine that has a CRX and unless you have swap done he'd clean your clock bro, sorry. The CRX has more potential for speed it vey light(the lightest car honda made) canhold a more powerful engine. Sorry but I am just being honest. Next to the celica it is one my favorite cars.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 7:21 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 19, '04 From The Coast, New Hampshire Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
my best friend is getting rid of his b16a crx right now. he has intake and exhaust on it. off the line my torque gets me about half a car length ahead of him but after that he is out, and he is using a b18 tranny longer gears, if he had a b16 tranny he would smoke me even worse. i have intake wires and exhaust. if you are racing a b16 crx you WILL lose. i promise. unless he doesnt know how to drive...
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Aug 12, 2004 - 12:03 AM
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let me start u are completly right, i agree with u, but i didn't say i won, i lost, i just didn't loose by much, which surprised the f*ck outta me. i was going into thinking i would be smoked, everyone was surprised actually and the race went like this I had a MASSIVE jump start i was like 2 car lengths in front of him he hits second catches up his nose is where my door handle is we hit third around the same time, at this point i'm where his door handle is and pretty much stay there, the race ends with me at about his rear tire. now i don't know how it happened, but thats what happened, if u don't believe me or any one else does whatever no biggie. i'll i'm saying is that i just thought i would be OWNED and i wasn't so, i'm telling who ever started this post to give it a try, u never know. and i don't personally think he was a ****ty driver, i just think he might of had a bad start, i had a 100% golden start it was a amazing. oh ya and i just replaced my clutch the day before, that helped alot, makes a big diff. but it was the most fun i've had in a long time, and my take on racing is if it's a good race i don't mind loosing. I thought it was a good race, and he was a really cool guy. my two cents. |
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Aug 12, 2004 - 12:57 AM
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i thought the 1979 honda civic was the lightest car honda ever made. |
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Aug 12, 2004 - 8:43 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 17, '03 From Florence, KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think you've got to consider the distance of the race, too. If it's stoplight to stoplight, the Si wouldn't win by as much, but in an 1/8 or 1/4 mile, it would probably leave us way behind.
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Aug 12, 2004 - 3:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From DeKalb Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanks alot for the comments.. Im getting a new stage 2 clutch, and some custom made headers... I talked to the guy with the CRX and we are still going to race.. Mostly for fun. Might as well... It'll be fun either way.
I figured from the begining that it wouldnt be much of a race being that its a light ass CRX and all, but i really just wanted to know how close it would be. NOT just be told i was going to lose... O and note: I used to have a Civic and a CRX. I know they didnt come stock with the DOHCVtec... Thats for whom ever it was that said that, thinking i had no idea what i was talking about. -------------------- |
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Aug 12, 2004 - 3:24 PM
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It depends on the type of Civic and CRX. Although highly unlikely to find one imported into the US, the CRX siR came with the DOHC VTEC B16A. '99-'00 USDM Civic SIs also came with the DOHC VTEC B16A. 
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Aug 12, 2004 - 5:37 PM
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Heh... It was me... based on your question... what was I supposed to think... 
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Aug 13, 2004 - 1:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From New York City, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
lol god, wouldn't that be nice?! @ max hp 
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Aug 13, 2004 - 8:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
there is a CRX SiR parked outside the shop that did my ST-T down pipe 
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Aug 14, 2004 - 9:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From DeKalb Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
sorry i was just pointing out i had a civic and a CRX and that i knew the AMERICAN (hehe) CRX didnt come stock with that type of VTec... i should of specified
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Aug 17, 2004 - 11:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, I am quoting a friend of mine he is not a ricer he spends all of time try to get more horse power out his CRX. William |
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Aug 19, 2004 - 9:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok im not trying to be a dick or anything, but i just thought i should clarify that there is no b16c3/5. there is only b16a/a1/a2/a3/a4/b. i think you are talking about the b18c5, but there is no c3. the b18c5 is from the type r. |
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