Something a little different, No standard 3SGTE swap for me Options

[JGS3SGE]

Well, its together and running.. after 3 years

1994 Celica base
Engine-
JDM 165HP 3SGE
Ported head
3SGTE oil squirters
Eagle 4340 rods
Wiseco 8.8:1 piston kit
Port matched intake manifold
Under manifold secondary injectors (x4)
MA70 Supra TB (60mm)
ECU-
AEM 1121 ECU
GM 3-bar map
AEM UEGO
Custom laptop mounting bracket
Fuel-
310cc primaries
462cc secondaries
Mallory billet filter
Supra TT pump
Aeromotive regulator
Ignition-
Magnacore wire
Crane PS91 coil
Turbo system-
.50 trim T3/T04E w/ .63 A/R 4 bolt
Stock 3SGTE manifold w/ custom adapter
My 44mm wastegate design
blacked out custom FMIC
Vortech BOV (changing with my own design soon)
2" before IC, 2.5" after
2.5" downpipe
3" exhaust
wastegate dump pipe
Drivetrain-
S transmission w/ 3SGTE clutch and pressure plate
Building a 99 Solara trans with a Quaife ATB
Misc.-
Eibach springs
Susp. tech. swaybays
GT rear discs
GT nose

All pipes/fab work done by ME














This post has been edited by JGS3SGE: Dec 4, 2004 - 2:52 AM

[creis]

OH Damn that motor is a beast on wheels, VERY NICE!! dyno results? just one thing, get rid of that gehetto old brick laptop, for something that can match the motor in performance. but besides that, sweet.

but dang your car puts mine to shame.

[JGS3SGE]

LOL! Me and that laptop go waaay back....and its been doing an ok job so far, serial connections only go so fast.
Still breaking in the fresh motor... if I want to dyno it, I'll have to buy one because they don't exist on the sothern oregon coast and I don't have time to head north. I'm working on the "buy one" part.
Other than that it feels real nice for only 5psi and limited RPM... Should beat my big turbo SRT4.

[recneps]

im guessing your still in the break in period, with only running 5 pounds? hopw much you planing on running?

anyways that motor is beautiful.

[JGS3SGE]

18-20psi on 92, depending on deto thresholds...
Race gas? 27-30psi should do nicely

[OrbitalGT95]

my lord...i have a hard on

[ghostdog]

thats nuts man. congrats on completing it

you definetly need to get some video going once its broken in and at full boost. its gonna spin tires like crazy before the quaife atb goes in

[Doge]

WOAH! where in oregon are you? Ashland or Grants Pass? I wanna come see it!

[JGS3SGE]

I live here in Siberia

aka Coos Bay

I wonder how long my S-53 is going to last, bets?

[Blakout16]

omg, gasp im living near 2 really nice cars coos bay isnt far from clatskanie (where i live)

[presure2]

wow thats some impressive work man, looks pretty sweet!

[LatinKraze]

OMG, that is one hot motha! Winter is in though, are you going to store her and break her in, in the spring?

[Blakout16]

jgse3sge whats ur aim/msn?

[JGS3SGE]

Naw, no snow here...
Don't think I'll be doing any full power runs though
I've even had to drop my mod SRT4 to 15psi unless its real warm out Its still awsome to rev it and run through the gears though...
those stock N/A cams sound awesome The port job seems to be done for velocity because even though its low comp. off boost perfomance is awesome. The AEM is awsome as well, one drive and I had a good functional map.

[JGS3SGE]

My messenger is broken

Time to go slap on the wheels and go for a drive, I just got done replacing my first S-53 (on its last leg before I got it, lasted 75miles :lol: )...
If anybody close is interested in checking it out I can be contacted thru my business, www.jgsturbo.com

This post has been edited by JGS3SGE: Dec 4, 2004 - 2:14 PM

[Lar-]

Great work!!!... Superb effort!!!!

IMHO.... An additional engine oil cooler would be some help to your engine health in the long run.
By the way, what's your engine oil temp at the moment??

Cheers...

[Doge]

I was born and raised in Reedsport! I go to coos bay all the time... that is awesome! I am coming to coos bay in a week or so.. is there ANY way I could come take pictures and drool over your setup?!

[trdevelopment]

wow that is really nice. very nice job..

[Kwanza26]

So instead of just buying a 3SGTE... you built one? Awesome! The experience is worth more than anything...

[Digndoug]

Thats hot, what year and gen is the engine??

[Coomer]

That's awesome!

[JGS3SGE]

Great work!!!... Superb effort!!!! 

IMHO.... An additional engine oil cooler would be some help to your engine health in the long run.
By the way, what's your engine oil temp at the moment??

Cheers...
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I'm still using the stock coolant based oil cooler (its actually relocated with the filter). Haven't had a chance to make a place to install my oil temp gauge but coolant temp is sitting at 185 max.
I'm also all out of room for an oil cooler I would like to put on the GT4 bumber/hood... that would leave a good place for one + cooling vents

[JGS3SGE]

I was born and raised in Reedsport!  I go to coos bay all the time... that is awesome!  I am coming to coos bay in a week or so.. is there ANY way I could come take pictures and drool over your setup?!
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I do tours
I can be found at the old sumner elem. school M-F 9-4pm, call if you need directions.

Update: just went for a drive with new trans, it goes and stops (rear disc conversion). The initial thrill is over, I'm hungry for more boost Got to get those breakin miles out of the way

[JGS3SGE]

Thats hot, what year and gen is the engine??
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Good question... not sure the year. It is a 2nd gen 3SGE which I believe came in the Jspec 5th gen.
Its really my idea of the perfect 3SGTE
Dual mode intake (opening a second plentum down stream effectively negates the runners up stream)
Same valve train hardware as the USDM (for replacement, the 3rd gen are very different).
N/A cams for higher rpm performance
Higher velocity ports

The only thing its lacking is VVT, hmmm...But I don't think I have enough room for the VVT actuator

[JGS3SGE]

One more pic



My home made PCV catch can

[celicaspeed]

Are you using the aem standalone?

[JGS3SGE]

Are you using the aem standalone?
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Yup, I wired in MR2 ecu plugs and swaped some wire in my harness.
I like it alot so far, then again I'm a tech-head and its about as techy as it gets

[celicaspeed]

Im thinking of going the same route.When I started my swap people told me that I couldnt use a MR2 3SGTE ecu to run the alltrac motor and they said that I couldnt use my factory harness and I did And Im doing the same thing as you having to move the wire from pin to pin to make it work.The aem is probably the best standalone system around for our cars.But not to many people know this or dont want to spend the money.Im glad everything worked out for you and have some fun with it now after all the hard work!

[JGS3SGE]

I had to completely hack off my 7AFE ecu plugs and extend every wire
Took me 2-3 days because I also whipped out the dynomo and labled every wire LOTS of solder and heat shrink.
I had to put mine AEM in the glove box because it would not fit under the dash hence the extensions.
But its very nice having the ECU in the glove box, easy access.

[Shigexile]

amazing

[frotou]

I like it ! Very good job , stand alone will make the difference. Can`t wait to compare the number with a standart 3sgte. It`s priceless to be different

claude

[Digndoug]

Thats hot, what year and gen is the engine??
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Good question... not sure the year. It is a 2nd gen 3SGE which I believe came in the Jspec 5th gen.
Its really my idea of the perfect 3SGTE
Dual mode intake (opening a second plentum down stream effectively negates the runners up stream)
Same valve train hardware as the USDM (for replacement, the 3rd gen are very different).
N/A cams for higher rpm performance
Higher velocity ports

The only thing its lacking is VVT, hmmm...But I don't think I have enough room for the VVT actuator
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Sweet, As far as i know, the 2nd gen, is with would be around 92(the one i have sitting in my garage) is rated at 174hp stock, the 3rd gen, was rated at 164hp; same engine but somthign was changed. Then the 4th gen was the beams.

[JGS3SGE]

I think the 2nd gen was rated at 165HP and the 3rd gen was 174 HP...

[drdos]

you have the stock st tranny?? lol how is that holding up??
what numbers do you plan on aiming for?

[recneps]

you have the stock st tranny?? lol how is that holding up??
what numbers do you plan on aiming for?
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hes using a S-53, a gt transmission.

This post has been edited by recneps: Dec 5, 2004 - 9:32 PM

[drdos]

you have the stock st tranny?? lol how is that holding up??
what numbers do you plan on aiming for?
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hes using a S-53, a gt transmission.
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o ok

[JGS3SGE]

Yup, and the S-53 is just for the break-in...
I have a NICE E-153 ready to have a Quaife ATB diff. installed, when funds are sufficent ($1245 is a good chunk of change with X-mas comming).

[recneps]

anyways man whats up with this secondary injectors thing. do they have there own fuel rail and line or whats up.

dont guess you could snap a pic for me,im very interested in this?

[JGS3SGE]

I added a second fuel rail and injectors under the intake manifold...
I have a pic somewhere I will see if I can post it.

[JGS3SGE]

Secondary injection-

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Man....I love the degree of ingenuity that takes place on this site. All you guys are sick.....absolutely sick.

[Lar-]

Secondary injection-

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How do you feed your secondary injector set??
You have a 2 fuel pumps set up?? A SupraTT fuel pump shouldn't be enough to feed all 8 injectors.

[JGS3SGE]

Huh? A supra TT pump is good for 500-600HP, it doesn't matter how many injectors. Its just like running a V8- 8 injectors, 1 pump, 1 regulator. I feed the larger 2nd rail first then the OEM 3SGE rail then its outlet goes to the regulator. The way its now is good for 400-450WHP.

[celicaspeed]

Why are you using a dual fuel rail set up?Couldnt you make a custom fuel rail and switch from side feed injecters to top feed and run supra aftermarket 600cc injecters and get the same performance?Just a question.And It still is sick Im just wondering?

[JGS3SGE]

It was easier at the time to run dual injectors, we had all the parts and a rail that worked. Also the stock injection location leaves something to be desired, under runner injection is less of an restriction to air flow. Not to mention is lets you run insane injectors without the crappy low pulse width flow pattern... IE less dynamic hicups.

Also I have some other plans as well, I maybe adding a cell, additional pump, second reg., and return line. The second tank would be loaded with 120 oct and with the AEM you can transition from the primary injectors to the secondary injectors...
Its basically a dynamic way of switching from crap gas to race gas under load Saving that $5 gal. race gas (with its sensor munching lead) for only when required by boost pressure

A little complicated and high-tech but who wants to be dull .

[Lar-]

Huh? A supra TT pump is good for 500-600HP, it doesn't matter how many injectors. Its just like running a V8- 8 injectors, 1 pump, 1 regulator. I feed the larger 2nd rail first then the OEM 3SGE rail then its outlet goes to the regulator. The way its now is good for 400-450WHP.
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I see... I see... I hope you'll get your targeted whp....

By the way.... can you post your Mods every now and then. I'll love to follow up as your idea of Moding is not something that I can see everyday. Should be interesting.... .

[recneps]

are you running cats?

i thought i saw a secondary under there.

BTW. awesome ingenuity with the secondary injectors

This post has been edited by recneps: Dec 7, 2004 - 7:53 PM

[JGS3SGE]

Actually I do have a cat... for what reason, I'm not sure WHY...
Its a 3 in high-flo cat tho

[recneps]

i was just wondering bacause you said you were running leaded gas on a car with a cat.

[JGS3SGE]

Well, I'm not running leaded yet... if I do the seperate race gas setup, I'll be adding a cut-out pre cat. High boost + race gas + cut-out = intoxicating.

But its hard to worry about it too much until I get some miles on it
I'd be driving it more but its raining ALOT.

[recneps]

Well, I'm not running leaded yet... if I do the seperate race gas setup, I'll be adding a cut-out pre cat. High boost + race gas + cut-out = intoxicating.

But its hard to worry about it too much until I get some miles on it 
I'd be driving it more but its raining ALOT.

anyways its awesome man.