New Paintjob Options

[mjmsoccer]

Okay guys, I am thinking about getting a paint job from Maaco. I know all the rumors about it, but I know a few people that have gotten it done there, and they say as long as the car is prepped very well I should be fine.
What I was wondering is what is the difference between Urethane Enamel and Synthetic Enamel?
Thanks in advance.
BTW: I plan on doing the Indigo Ink Pearl from lexus/toyota
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This post has been edited by mjmsoccer: Jan 17, 2005 - 5:06 PM

[Digndoug]

now that would jut be hott. Im alo plannign on painting my car soon, but am going to have a freind spray after i prep. Im doing the gayih for the is300. cant wait to see.

[exxtractor]

I'd still avoid macco, do a google search and you'll hear how bad their rep is. I'd shop around for local shops and give them a budget and see what they can do. I'd even give it to a local tech. school to paint before macco.

[mjmsoccer]

OK, so after some time researching paint types I've found the following:
Polyurethane Enamel is supposed to be the best single stage paint you can get. There is a clear coat mixed in and it is to be harder and retain the shine better than synthetic or acrylic enamels.
The main reason I was painting was due to a fender bender. I did all the body work and it finally looks half decent. There are some pictures in the link below going through the process. I had primed and painted the area until I had time to do body work, then I stripped it to metal, filled everything with bondo, then some metal glaze putty, and finally some filler primer.
Body Work
The welded crack was caused by the previous owner, which made things more difficult than it needed to be. The car goes to paint in the morning and I'll be picking it up Tuesday. I'll post pics when I get it back.

[Akimbo]

Is IIP the same color on the Scions?

[mjmsoccer]

I think so. The paint code is the same; I saw the color on a is300 and it is darker in person than that picture, but yeah I think the scion's have the same paint

[mjmsoccer]

Got my car back from painting, I just had to wait until the weather cleared up to get pictures.




And I know I need to fix my turn signals they got cracked and they leak now, but I can't fix it until I get back from school.

This post has been edited by mjmsoccer: Jan 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM

[mjmsoccer]

links fixed

[ghostdog]

looks great man. what prep work did you do? are there any flaws close up?

[Akimbo]

Looks really nice. I'm thinking about getting a scion/lexus paint as well, Black Sand Pearl.

[mjmsoccer]

Thanks guys. I just rough sanded it with 80 grit with a DA sander. You can still see some of the lines from where I sanded it, Maaco was supposed to prep it as well, but obviously they didn't or else those lines wouldn't have been there. If I would have done it over I would have hit it with 220 grit as well, but I had to rush to get it painted before heading back to college. Overall I'd say it was a pretty decent job for $450.

[Supersprynt]

now that would jut be hott. Im alo plannign on painting my car soon, but am going to have a freind spray after i prep. Im doing the gayih for the is300. cant wait to see.
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If by gayih you mean the grey - its Graphite Grey Metallic - and thats what im doin.

[bufferdan]

All maaco's are different. Some might have some good painters and some not. But for the price your not going to get anything awesomely good. For a older car that you just want to look pretty darn nice for a few more years then maaco is hard to beat. I got my old truck painted there and it came out pretty nice for 400$. Your car looks good also! Maaco usually does leave alot of orange peel though and it looks like you have some. You could wetsand it out with 2000grit and buff with compound to get a silky smooth finish. Looks nice though, good choice in color also.

[mjmsoccer]

Yeah, I wasn't expecting anything too much. I like the color a lot except its going to be a pain to keep clean. Alot of the toyota/scion/lexus colors would look great on celis. The grey would be awesome

[TOYOCE409]

Why did you sand your car with 80 grit or even sanding it with 220 grit? 220 might leave sand scratches, 320 would be good if the you sealed it. I just painted my celica S2000 yellow you can look at my profile for pics. It came out pretty good for just costing me $100 . Your car can out good for a Maaco paint job.

[latinomasfino]

Why did you sand your car with 80 grit or even sanding it with 220 grit? 220 might leave sand scratches, 320 would be good if the you sealed it. I just painted my celica S2000 yellow you can look at my profile for pics. It came out pretty good for just costing me $100 . Your car can out good for a Maaco paint job.
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$100 at maaco wtf r u fukcin serious LOL damnnnnnnnn

[TOYOCE409]

HaHa. Hell no, I painted it my job that is way better then Maaco. All I paid for was clear and the paint was donated from the paintstore(PPG).

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

If by gayih you mean the grey - its Graphite Grey Metallic - and thats what im doin.
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man i was thinking the IS300 grey too, but i just figured to keep it white. itll be easier to paint.

This post has been edited by BLINKYxMUNKEY: Jan 19, 2005 - 8:51 PM

[mjmsoccer]

Toy: I was told all I needed to do was rough sand it using 80 grit by a guy who does some custom painting, and I hit the edges and lines with 220 because I heard thats where Maaco really slacks and causes the orange peels. BTW: Your paint job looks great, awesome color too.
Blinky: I was looking at the grey also, but I decided to stay blue so that I wouldn't have to paint the door jams and the engine bay. You wouldn't really notice the difference in the jams without looking pretty well.
It is never going to be a show car, just a daily driver so I wasn't about to dump $1000+ into a $4000 car for paint.

[SVT_Muscle]

lol Macco paintjob?

you may as well bought a few cans of spray paint and saved a few dollars

[ghostdog]

lol Macco paintjob?

you may as well bought a few cans of spray paint and saved a few dollars
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is that really necessary? I realize you know people here but is it really worth coming here to insult and undermine people's efforts?

please realize I'm not targeting you simply because you don't own a celica but rather that these kinds of discouraging comments really bother me. we have a community here and I think its important that we support each others efforts regardless of what kind of budget we are working off of. my 2 'sense'

[dstrbcelica]

w00t for pete.

-dstrb

[mjmsoccer]

lol Macco paintjob?

you may as well bought a few cans of spray paint and saved a few dollars
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is that really necessary? I realize you know people here but is it really worth coming here to insult and undermine people's efforts?

please realize I'm not targeting you simply because you don't own a celica but rather that these kinds of discouraging comments really bother me. we have a community here and I think its important that we support each others efforts regardless of what kind of budget we are working off of. my 2 'sense'
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w00t for pete.



-dstrb
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Thanks Ghost and dstrb
It is not the quality of the Maaco paint job that is lacking. The thing that makes most Maaco paint jobs so poor is the lack of prep work that they put in to it. I did not have the time or the money to take it to a premier paint shop. I have watched a man I know do a custom paint job on a cargo van. It took him roughly two weeks just to do the prep work. The paint, falking, and decals took only another 2 or 3 days. I knew what I was getting into and all that I am saying is for a low price and a short turn around period, Maaco did a very decent job.
BTW: Ghost your car is sweet. Love the Hiro and SS-III splitters.

This post has been edited by mjmsoccer: Jan 24, 2005 - 1:53 AM

[SVT_Muscle]

lol Macco paintjob?

you may as well bought a few cans of spray paint and saved a few dollars
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is that really necessary? I realize you know people here but is it really worth coming here to insult and undermine people's efforts?

please realize I'm not targeting you simply because you don't own a celica but rather that these kinds of discouraging comments really bother me. we have a community here and I think its important that we support each others efforts regardless of what kind of budget we are working off of. my 2 'sense'
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So on this site you guys all have group hugs and stuff and its sorta like a support group and no one gives criticism?

[Supersprynt]

Theres more than enough criticism, but in a thread where someones excited about what they just got/did say something nice or dont say anything it all. Its common decency.

This is what seperates us from the rest of the forums.

[mjmsoccer]

I don't care if you criticize, but "haha Maaco" is not doing it. Take a look at the painting and point out specific things if you see something. I'm not going to argue anything else, but SVT if you don't like the site do not come. Back on topic, I would actually suggest Maaco if you have the time to do the prep work yourself, but are on a tight budget.

[CheesyLobster]

I am concidering doing a new paint job as well, and am concidering a maaco job. From what i've read, you should do the prep work yourself. My question though is, what is involved in the preping? Sanding down the entire car to the metel? Or just smothing it all out?

[mjmsoccer]

I am concidering doing a new paint job as well, and am concidering a maaco job. From what i've read, you should do the prep work yourself. My question though is, what is involved in the preping? Sanding down the entire car to the metel? Or just smothing it all out?
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On 95% of paint jobs you do not need to strip the car down to bare metal. Unless the paint is completly messed up, or you are doing a radical color change, basically all you need to do it rough sand the car. I have heard different things for sandpaper, i used 80 grit and then 220 grit around the edges. I was told after I had it painted that 220 would have been best to start and some 320 later. Basically, I just made sure that the shine was gone from the original paint. My biggest concern for you would be to make sure that you get along all the edges ( along the tail lights, around the windows, etc) The paint job can only be as good as the prep job.

[CheesyLobster]

I am concidering doing a new paint job as well, and am concidering a maaco job. From what i've read, you should do the prep work yourself. My question though is, what is involved in the preping? Sanding down the entire car to the metel? Or just smothing it all out?
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On 95% of paint jobs you do not need to strip the car down to bare metal. Unless the paint is completly messed up, or you are doing a radical color change, basically all you need to do it rough sand the car. I have heard different things for sandpaper, i used 80 grit and then 220 grit around the edges. I was told after I had it painted that 220 would have been best to start and some 320 later. Basically, I just made sure that the shine was gone from the original paint. My biggest concern for you would be to make sure that you get along all the edges ( along the tail lights, around the windows, etc) The paint job can only be as good as the prep job.
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Wow thanks a bunch.

[mjmsoccer]

no problem man, let me know if you have any other questions

[Akimbo]

Man. I went to a local shop and they wanted 3500 for Black Sand Pearl including jambs and the engine bay (i think the bay) and to pull a few dents. What do you think?

[ghostdog]

Man. I went to a local shop and they wanted 3500 for Black Sand Pearl including jambs and the engine bay (i think the bay) and to pull a few dents. What do you think?
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ask them how much if you prep yourself. I kinda wish I had done that and gone to a more reputable shop ... oh well

[dstrbcelica]

what's wrong with your paint job pete?

-dstrb

[ghostdog]

what's wrong with your paint job pete?

-dstrb
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got paint chips here and there; looks like they didn't prep some areas properly. its still minor at this point and it'll be fixed when the car goes in next but I can tell its going to be a problem in the long-run. I wish I had just done a swap, or dropped another grand for a job that'll look pristine for years to come .. oh well, you live and you learn

[SVT_Muscle]

Man. I went to a local shop and they wanted 3500 for Black Sand Pearl including jambs and the engine bay (i think the bay) and to pull a few dents. What do you think?
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thats how much mine was.... its def worth it

[Supersprynt]

3500 isnt a bad price if its a complete color change.