Thinking about gas mileage, Who has 17"+ or 20-26 MPG Options

[Jeremy1210]

I just bought a 97 ST that has 17" with 215/45. The gas mileage is pretty crappy with this car. I just took it to get the fuel injectors cleaned. But anyway, I remember reading posts of people saying there were getting like 20-23 mpg. FOr those people, what size tires are you running? On my 94 St i Have 16's and Im gett 30-31 mpg. I don't think 17'' should drop the mileage that much..

Anyway, if you have MPG in the lower 20's canyou let me know what size tire you are running? I'm trying to do some research on how much these 17's are going to cost me in the long run, and if there is something to do about it.

Thanks
Jeremy

[BlackCelicaGT94]

honestly i get crappy gas mileage too. but i do drive in the upper RPMs and i do drive in city traffic. but even if i do a run down to oregon which is roughly 180 miles or so it takes me like 1/2 a tank to 3/4ths a tank


usually closer to 3/4ths and thats even if im not playing around and downshifting. Damn i better get ready to get myself a new engine wtih the way im driving!

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Feb 1, 2005 - 11:52 AM

[playr158]

i have 18s on my ST

and i can get ruffly about 380ish miles on a tank city/hwy normal

trip driving on hwy minimal city 400-450 miles?
so 13 gallon tank 450 miles
is 36-37 mpg

but i've come close to 500 miles b4

[BlackCelicaGT94]

yah im no where near that - i got 18s on my GT

are u gonna get more mileage out of higher octane gasoline? probably! i put in 87 *im cheap*

oh well im filling up the tank every 1 to 3 days sometimes twice in a day if i run down to portland or yakima

[erics1one]

I have 18"s and I get about 220miles before my gas light comes on

But I also have a turbo, and run pretty dang rich.

This post has been edited by erics1one: Feb 1, 2005 - 12:23 PM

[LatinKraze]

I get 23 mpg. I have stock 15's. 250-280 miles per tank and I still have like 4 gallons left. I drive normal now but punch it once in a while. I have a GT though.

[dstrbcelica]

i have 17's and i get 20-23mpg. 215/40s. and i drive an auto st. iono..it's f*cked up.

-dstrb

[Digndoug]

I get 23 mpg. I have stock 15's. 250-280 miles per tank and I still have like 4 gallons left. I drive normal now but punch it once in a while. I have a GT though.
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Thats bout what I get it. Depending how i drive. When I tried to see what i could get at best driving norm, like shifting around 3k almost all the time, and most of the driving was int he middle of city an highway like. I got 30 mpg, that was at best. On nom drivingwith out thinking of gas i get around 24-26 mpg.. which sucks for me..

[Kwanza26]

You guys just need tune ups. I've gotten as good as 40mpg crusing from one side of the country to the other at 80-90mph on 17's. Typically, around town, I get 28-35mpg depending on how much I drive the freeways. The Celica ST shouldn't get under 26-28 mpg in the city. If you do, you should look to getting a tune up or something...

[Mr_E]

Why would wheels make any difference to MPG if the RR is close to stock?

Thinking about gas milage? I try not to. £0.86 a litre here now.

[dabbill]

i have 18's and i average about 27mpg.

[playr158]

yea i use 93ish most the time it does help with gas milage but so do better plugs wires cap and rotor synthetic oil good cold air intake and such and i'm getting stock 14" steelies soon so i don't mess up my 18s and i should get much better mpg on those

and oh wheels effect mpg cause of weight and a few other factors

[Mr_E]

and oh wheels effect mpg cause of weight and a few other factors
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Why the **** would anyone buy replacement wheels that were heavier than stock, and increase unsprung rotating mass.....

....oh yeah. Bling.

My new wheels are sodding expensive for a good reason.

[Digndoug]

I guess its time to get a fuel filter, I have done everything else besides that. Also would the egr valve effect it, i wouldnt think so, it runs fine and passed emisions with a bad one.

[LatinKraze]

I need a fuel filter as well. My engine has 184K and I dont think the girl that owned the celi before me changed it at all.

[Jen]

i have 18s on my ST

and i can get ruffly about 380ish miles on a tank city/hwy normal

trip driving on hwy minimal city 400-450 miles?
so 13 gallon tank 450 miles
is 36-37 mpg

but i've come close to 500 miles b4
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Not far.. at all. I get probably 25 mpg.

[rocky2006]

yeah, im probly the worst gas mileage here. avg 20 mpg on an auto ST. i just got a ticket so im driving slower too. it shifts at ~ 3500 rpm. i didnt calculate what my gas mileage was before the ticket. all i did was get a new air filter. are gas filters hard to put in myself?

EDIT: forgot to say i have 185/70/14's too.

This post has been edited by rocky2006: Feb 1, 2005 - 10:10 PM

[97sccelica]

my celica has 17's

and it got 25mpg city driving while boosting 8psi

97 auto ST

go and get full tune ups, and change all the fluids in the car.

[LatinKraze]

yeah, im probly the worst gas mileage here.  avg 20 mpg on an auto ST.  i just got a ticket so im driving slower too.  it shifts at ~ 3500 rpm.  i didnt calculate what my gas mileage was before the ticket.  all i did was get a new air filter.  are gas filters hard to put in myself?
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It's do-able. Just got to be careful not to spill too much gasoline and remember that the bottom screw/thread is backwards. There are a few How-To's floating around.

This post has been edited by LatinKraze: Feb 1, 2005 - 9:35 PM

[DamDirtyApes]

i get horrible gas mileage to, lower 20s

[LatinKraze]

LOL, i just found out I asked the same question awhile ago. Here's the thread where someone explains how to remove it.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=15095&hl=

[rocky2006]

well what all do they do in a full tuneup and do i need one? i have 64k miles on my 97 ST. how much do they usually cost minus the cost of an air filter? when im idling, my steering wheel shakes a little.

[dstrbcelica]

^ yes. same question. siiiiiigh such a n00b question too..*slaps forehead*

-dstrb

[popstar]

Hey i don't know the numbers.....
i just know i get about 360 'KM' to 3/4 of a tank so about 45lts........
hmmm thats 8 KM to the liter in town most of the time........

but you either look good, or you worry about cash you can't have both i'm sorry to say....

[crazycel18]

i get about 28 miles a gallon

[Mynzeyes]

tune-ups generally include simple things like spark plugs, spark plug wires. maybe a fuel filter if you're lucky. new air filter. oil change and filter. probably a coolant flush. AC check. maybe a tranny change. tire rotation and balance. probably check timing and compression. hrrrrrm...all this is stuff you could EASILY do at home, for a fraction of the price at the dealer. and i don't think the dealer does that much...

[creis]

Mostly highway I can get up to 400 miles on the tank of premium (I seem to feel that I need premium) that is not the total, I never let it get to the point where the gas indicator turns on, I guess thats pretty good. but when I'm mostly "city" driving its about 325 max.

if that helps you guys at all.

[Mynzeyes]

k..and..i went approx. 337.02 miles (from franklin, tn to macon, ga) and still had a 1/4 tank left...::shrug::

-John-

[Mr_E]

Hey i don't know the numbers.....
i just know i get about 360 'KM' to 3/4 of a tank so about 45lts........
hmmm thats 8 KM to the liter in town most of the time........

  but you either look good, or you worry about cash you can't have both i'm sorry to say....
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Sounds pretty standard for a 205.

My record is 7mpg over a tank of fuel. And UK gallons are bigger than US ones, so that's probably 6 mpg if you convert to US.

[rocky2006]

was it only driven at 5500 rpm in first gear? thats crazy.

[Digndoug]

Ok, well Today sence it was nice out, i just went got a new fuel filter=$16.99 and a pcv valve=$1.99 and some fuel injector cleaner = $2.99 . Im going to fill up some more gas and add the cleaner and once i hit bout 1/4 tank i should be able to tell ya'll the diff. Also the filter wasnt really hard to do. it took maybe 30-45 min for the first time i did it, that was also stoping a few timnes cause my back is bad an hurts like a mo-fo leaning over.

[CheesyLobster]

I get over 400 miles before I need a refill. I'm running on my stock 14s, but I don't think that makes much of a difference. Try O2 sensors...

[Mr_E]

was it only driven at 5500 rpm in first gear? thats crazy.
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A racetrack and 14psi plus of boost are very very bad for mpg.....
....and tyres, brakes and, on occasion, my underwear.....

.....fun though.

[playr158]

ummm gallons are gallons regarless dude i don't know what you are thinking
now if your CONVERTING it would be UK=liters to US = gallons
UK gallons and US gallons are the SAME hence they are called a GALLON

if it was UK gallon to US gallon its not a conversion

[Mr_E]

ummm gallons are gallons regarless dude i don't know what you are thinking
now if your CONVERTING it would be UK=liters to US = gallons
UK gallons and US gallons are the SAME hence they are called a GALLON

if it was UK gallon to US gallon its not a conversion
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Almost totally wrong in every respect I'm afraid.

Just because things have the same name doesn't mean they're the same thing. Last time I checked there were lots of currencies called a 'dollar'. They're not worth the same.

A world of information at your fingertips, and you still couldn't be bothered to look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The gallon is a unit of volume used for measuring liquids (as well as dry matter).

* In the US a fluid gallon is exactly 3.785 411 784 litres: see U.S. customary units
* An Imperial gallon is exactly 4.546 09 litres: see Imperial unit.

At one time, the volume of a gallon depended on what you were measuring, and where you were measuring it. But, by the 19th century, two definitions were in common use. The wine gallon, or "Queen Anne's gallon", which was 231 cubic inches (and became the legal basis for the U.S. fluid gallon), and the ale gallon, of 282 cubic inches.

In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known as the Imperial gallon. The Imperial gallon was based on the volume of 10 pounds of distilled water weighed in air with brass weights with the barometer standing at 30 inches and at a temperature of 62 degrees Fahrenheit. In 1963, this definition was refined as the space occupied by 10 pounds of distilled water of density 0.998 859 g/mL weighed in air of density 0.001 217 g/mL against weights of density 8.136 g/mL. This works out at approximately 277.419 45 cubic inches. The metric definition of exactly 4.546 09 L was adopted shortly afterward.

The United States, by this time, had already standardised on the old wine gallon. It was at one time defined as the volume of a cylinder 6 inches long and 7 inches in diameter, or 230.907 cubic inches. It had been redefined during the reign of Queen Anne as 231 in³ exactly, which remains the U.S. definition today. Thus 10 U.S. gallons equals approximately 8.327 Imperial gallons. The Imperial gallon is about a fifth larger than the U.S. gallon.

Both the Imperial and United States gallon are divided into 8 pints. However in the US a pint is 16 fluid ounces whereas an Imperial pint is 20 fluid ounces. Thus a U.S. gallon is 128 fl oz and an Imperial gallon is 160 fl oz; this means that a US fluid ounce is around 1.8047 in³ and an Imperial fl oz is around 1.7339 in³. The US fluid ounce is actually bigger than the imperial, although the US gallon is smaller.

[popstar]

Hmmm

so there we have it ........

one day we'll all sing off the same song sheet

2 Mr. E.... thanks for the info, that will win some beer tonight down the bar

[Mr_E]

      one day we'll all sing off the same song sheet

I think that's very unlikely.

On that day, mars landers will land, not plunge to their firey deaths. And I won't be able to get out of speeding tickets in the US by claiming I 'forgot' the speedo wasn't in KPH....

[Jeremy1210]

Back to the topic at hand instead of some dumb bickering about gallons

Will a fuel filter change help then, since i have changed all my fluids, plugs, belts, wires??