Seeking Advice About 6 Gen Celica Options!! Options

[nObOdy]

Hey guys - Im new to this world of both Toyotas and obviously Celicas - but
upon entering i am extremly hooked..

So first off i shall explain my situation to you guys..
My friend bought a Mazda MX-3 GS it comes stock with a 130hp V6. The First thing he did was dropped a 200hp KLZ Jspec engine into it. That is where his car stands as of now - total he spent about 5 grand and that car is pretty damned quick for that cheap
the car weighs something 2700 lbs.. its pretty light..

My current car now is an 88 Acura Integra its a 1.6 with about 118bhp at the wheels(or so it came stock i havent done much to it but maybe its more)
irregardless - i want a car that will keep up with the mazda earlier mentioned..

So i asked my mechanic what he thought and he had a Toyota Curren outside in the back of his place.. surprising yes.. but the car looked absolutly awesome right at the start i wanted it. Now heres the issue I am currently enrolled in college as a freshman and i nor my parents are rich(dad is bankrupt, mom supporting 3 kids through college)
SO it seems im on my own here..
the Most money that i will be able to get is probably 6,000 dollars..


So anyhow on with the story - The curren cannot be used, number one it was imported from japan and they took the engine and everything - Stripped it bare.. it would cost too much money to get it up and running But my mechanic had told me about the 3S-GTE and... i want it.. so i was pretty crestfallen till i was strolling around on the web and saw a 94 Toyota Celica Looked ALMOST exactly the same as the Curren (some differences but minimal) In ANY case i am hooked to the max and Im hoping that a 94-99 Celica GT (cause ive heard its easier to switch to the 3S-GTE)
will both outrun the mazda AND fit my budget - AND fit the sexy car role... =)

Anyhow - Do any of you have and recommendations on what direction i should go? Anyone know of any celicas with a blown engine being sold?? for about.. 2k? 1k?

How easy is it to switch in the 2nd gen 3S-GTE? does the actual gens of the engines matter at all??

As i said im a noob at this but the past 3 days ive been pouring over everything celica 6th gen...
Please send or post rather any information that you would have pertaining to the cars im looking at - Your cars are all bad ass - i wish i had one!!!!

Thanks -
Grant

[madmods]

Hey guys - Im new to this world of both Toyotas and obviously Celicas - but
upon entering i am extremly hooked..

So first off i shall explain my situation to you guys..
My friend bought a Mazda MX-3 GS it comes stock with a 130hp V6. The First thing he did was dropped a 200hp KLZ Jspec engine into it. That is where his car stands as of now - total he spent about 5 grand and that car is pretty damned quick for that cheap
the car weighs something 2700 lbs.. its pretty light..

My current car now is an 88 Acura Integra its a 1.6 with about 118bhp at the wheels(or so it came stock i havent done much to it but maybe its more)
irregardless - i want a car that will keep up with the mazda earlier mentioned..

So i asked my mechanic what he thought and he had a Toyota Curren outside in the back of his place.. surprising yes.. but the car looked absolutly awesome right at the start i wanted it. Now heres the issue I am currently enrolled in college as a freshman and i nor my parents are rich(dad is bankrupt, mom supporting 3 kids through college)
SO it seems im on my own here..
the Most money that i will be able to get is probably 6,000 dollars..


So anyhow on with the story - The curren cannot be used, number one it was imported from japan and they took the engine and everything - Stripped it bare.. it would cost too much money to get it up and running  But my mechanic had told me about the 3S-GTE  and... i want it.. so i was pretty crestfallen till i was strolling around on the web and saw a 94 Toyota Celica  Looked ALMOST exactly the same as the Curren (some differences but minimal) In ANY case i am hooked to the max and Im hoping that a 94-99 Celica GT (cause ive heard its easier to switch to the 3S-GTE)
will both outrun the mazda AND fit my budget - AND fit the sexy car role... =)

Anyhow - Do any of you have and recommendations on what direction i should go? Anyone know of any celicas with a blown engine being sold?? for about.. 2k? 1k?

How easy is it to switch in the 2nd gen 3S-GTE? does the actual gens of the engines matter at all??

As i said im a noob at this but the past 3 days ive been pouring over everything celica 6th gen...
Please send or post rather any information that you would have pertaining to the cars im looking at - Your cars are  all bad ass - i wish i had one!!!!

Thanks -
Grant
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Grant, welcome aboard. Theres cars in the for sale section and ebay all the time. As far as the motor swap goes, look through the engine section and use the search keys, because it will answer every question you can have.

[thedevilmaycrie]

wow lol you just missed out... i just sold a 3sgte celica for 6500 ...

-DMC

[Batman722]

Swapping an engine, the cost is about $4-$5 grand. That would be with a 2nd gen 3sgte. Like Madmods wrote, check the stickys in the engine section for more info on that stuff. There are members selling their cars here in the forums in the buying/selling forum, you could probably get a deal from one of them.

Posted Today, 07:16 PM
  wow lol you just missed out... i just sold a 3sgte celica for 6500 ...

you missed a huge deal there...

[4wheelWOnder]

curren, did anyone say curren?..............whats up man and welcome aboard......i cant help you out much with yo prob., but there are alot of wise folks on this forum that can. Good luck with it though

[nObOdy]

lol Well crap i guess i did miss a big deal - BUT 6,500 is probably a bit out of my price range.. as i still need to go to college next semester.. (see celica driving by) *college... whats college....
hah
anyone know if the 3S-GTE celica will outrun the Mazda MX-3 GS???
nObOdy

[jayi12-15psi]

----------------yes, assuming you can drive and its the 2nd gen 225 hp jdm 3s

it would be a close one with a usdm, or a first gen 3s-gte.

[shid]

^ what Jay said. Minor mods will get you faster too

[nObOdy]

Is there such thing as a 3rd gen?? whats the horsepower rating on that??/ is there a significant money increase for that model??
nObOdy

[DamDirtyApes]

if you have your heart set on a celica, and u want to beat that car. your best bet would be to buy a celica in the 1500-2000 price range and swap a 3sgte. if u do the work urself it will cost u about 6000 in the end.


3rd gen has more power than the other 2 gens.

[snadman]

Thats awesome. Yeah, me and my Dad swapped the JSpec KLZE into my parents' 96 Mazda 626. It had the stock KL03 which is 160hp at crank and now with exhaust and engine it's up to 181 at the wheels. Pretty fricking quick, can't imagine how quick a lil MX3 would be.

Sorry, to make this 'celica' related...uhm yes there is a 3rd gen. No offense, but you didn't look that hard even though you were "pouring over information" because that answer is right here on this site's "Information" link on the main page. Imagine that lol. Anyways, just messing with you man just make sure you look over the site before asking questions...other people will go off on you. http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=information&itu=13
There's the link in case you be lazy. The 3rd gen 3SGTE had 251HP and powers all of the 6th gen GT4's. Good to have ya on board!

This post has been edited by snadman: Feb 23, 2005 - 10:36 PM

[shid]

there's also a 4th gen 3sgte too; but no info on that swap exists, it differs signifigantly.

[pr_caralho]

Id save up if i were you, cuz its hard to find a 6gen in good condition under 6 g's, and the 3s-gte plus a swap can suck a college boys wallet clean. and welcome aboard!

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Is there such thing as a 3rd gen?? whats the horsepower rating on that??/ is there a significant money increase for that model??
nObOdy
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3rd gen = 250 hp i think. i heard that its a lot harder to swap. not sure why. Not a guru on the performance subject so i'll stop talkin here.

[Digndoug]

Thats awesome. Yeah, me and my Dad swapped the JSpec KLZE into my parents' 96 Mazda 626. It had the stock KL03 which is 160hp at crank and now with exhaust and engine it's up to 181 at the wheels. Pretty fricking quick, can't imagine how quick a lil MX3 would be.

Its not that quick, i mean its nice, but my buddie has one and has a hand full of mods done to it, but its not as fast as i expected.

[Akimbo]

Holy carp you're from Bozeman! I wan to visit you. Ever heard of Baker? My exgirlfriend lived there. I really wanted to go there with her. Know it? I can't remember how she knows Bozeman...but I KNOW I've heard it.

[nObOdy]

ahah wow some responses YES!!
Alright - pouring over info - THE WRONG INFO! lol i did not see that - im a moron at navigating this site.. bear with me and come on up any time man id LOVE TO SEE YOUR CELICA!!!!

looked on auto trader found a 94 GT for 2.5k
still waiting for Venus to return my call on how much a second gen engine costs- one of the members on this board told me that the clip for the 3rd gen is around 3k.. hell no.. cant afford that me thinks.. trying to find out what the 2nd gen will cost..

Yea i know of Baker -- I searched the for sale section of the website using 3s-gte didnt return anything... so i can say i looked!!

id like it if someone could message me on AOL or MSN i want to pick your brain!!
nObOdy

[nObOdy]

Aha alright peiced the cost of this mission together now its time to see if the finances will work - may have to ask parents for money - any ideas on convincing my mom to buy into this? =)

94 gt hatch car - 3k ship 400, 3.4k total for car
3s-gte engine 1345 *rough* ship?!? install 800 2.145
5.5 *rough*

I know im forgetting something but im so tired im not able to remmeber.. will return to this post tommorow - What do you guys think!?! i keep seeing celicas when i try to go to bed - this is bad...
nObOdy

[Watanbe88]

EDM 3rd 3sgte = 235hp
JDM 3rd 3sgt3 = 255hp

I know how fast the little mazdas can be, my dad and I have 3 rx-7s. Mine is an 83 weighing in at 2100lbs w/ about 180hp.

[Mr_E]

Is there such thing as a 3rd gen?? whats the horsepower rating on that??/ is there a significant money increase for that model??
nObOdy
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3rd gen = 250 hp i think. i heard that its a lot harder to swap. not sure why. Not a guru on the performance subject so i'll stop talkin here.
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No harder to swap I think (charge cooler might make it a bit more fun).

Much much harder to find parts for in the US I guess.