cutting... Options

[Mynzeyes]

just wondering..probably, if someone does, they'll be too embarrassed or scared to admit it...

i've been known to...not excessively, but some. very rarely...and not much at all when i have done it...

don't tell me i need help, don't tell me i'm crazy, don't tell my you're worried about me. i don't need to hear those things. i know everything about this situation. i just wonder if there's anyone on here that's willing to admit to it...

i guess this is kninda a step out, but i really don't care?

again. don't tell me all the things i don't want, and don't NEED to hear. .

if you lose respect for me, that's fine, i understand. but i'm not a loose cannon, nor am i suicidal. and i'm not crazy...or maybe i am? . some people just have different releases for different situations.

so anyway. i know of at least one other person on here, but i won't mention their name..i just wonder if there's more..because it's somewhat common...

-John-

[Jen]

so anyway. i know of at least one other person on here, but i won't mention their name..i just wonder if there's more..because it's somewhat common...
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Bah.. that's me.. sigh. You're not crazy or suicidal. I understand.. everything.. <3..

And I want you to know, I still love you. And I am still always here for you, no matter what.

Best friends..

This post has been edited by Jen: Mar 16, 2005 - 11:54 PM

[Batman722]

cuts what ? ...hair ? a rug ? in and out of traffic ?


J/K, cutting yourself is sometimes considered by some to be a rush, like an adrediline rush. For some, seeing the blood from cuts gives them an odd sense of well-being and strength - the same feelings that were stripped away from them at some point in their life. A self-injurer may injure themselves as a way of empowering themselves, as well. The person feels strong and in control by enduring the pain that they inflict on themselves.

[SlowCelica94]

That was good batman. You really hit the nail on the head.

My answer? You won't like it. Start smoking. Both kinds. I mellow out a lot by smoking cigs. And I've started smoking pot since the new year and I have mellowed out a **** load. As I understand, smoking pot regularly creates a chemical imbalance within ur body so it alters your sober mind too. I'm sure thats a bit off, so someone please correct me.

[Mynzeyes]

back in the day, i cut out of sheer boredom, and also because i did enjoy the blood, and the pure physics behind the cuts, and how everything reacted.

as far as smoking..i've done that way back in the past, but my anxiety won't allow me to enjoy it. i hated it. .

-John-

[Mynzeyes]

Best friends..
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i wish that were good enough...

[ghostdog]

probably the wrong thing to say but I agree with you. sometimes you just need to chill out .. rather than resorting to something like cutting. my opinion

That was good batman. You really hit the nail on the head.

My answer? You won't like it. Start smoking. Both kinds. I mellow out a lot by smoking cigs. And I've started smoking pot since the new year and I have mellowed out a **** load. As I understand, smoking pot regularly creates a chemical imbalance within ur body so it alters your sober mind too. I'm sure thats a bit off, so someone please correct me.
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[CheesyLobster]

dude...we are concerned...

[Akimbo]

I've had my fair share of experiences with it.

[slipgun]

Many of my friends seem to use that as an escape... Its not the act itself thats an issue its the enjoyment of it progressing to more severe cuts, just as a small drug addict can move up the chain untill it is a problem. Your not unusual to be doing that though if thats what you wanted to hear, but most of my friends who do it are young tryna act cool or heavy drug addicts. There are much better ways to deal with fustration, though I wouldnt recommend drugs, alcohol is certainly my blessing against stress .

[Sh0gunkid8721]

personally i think cutting is lame and pointless. but thats just me. and im also VERY sensative about the topic of suicide so i wont even go there.

[thedevilmaycrie]

john,
i understand where you are coming from... hell your the only one on here that know half the shiot ive been though. what i used to do was actually carve myself... make sure i left a mark... thankfully all my scars are not visable, i think that the fact that i get tattooes now lessen my need to carve myself... im not saying get yourself inked up but you gotta find alternatives... you know you can talk to me on aim anytime you want...

-DMC
Bryan

[pr_caralho]

I usually resort to a punching bag to let out myself wen i truly need it. Im not a crazy guy and go crazy on the bag, but more like practising something, like a martial art or something gets me on a good mood...

[Digndoug]

That was good batman. You really hit the nail on the head.

My answer? You won't like it. Start smoking. Both kinds. I mellow out a lot by smoking cigs. And I've started smoking pot since the new year and I have mellowed out a **** load. As I understand, smoking pot regularly creates a chemical imbalance within ur body so it alters your sober mind too. I'm sure thats a bit off, so someone please correct me.
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Yeah I started smoking.. I never have really had tons of problems in my life, but enough to make me pissed off an angry or dpressed. Im a very laid back guy and can tolerate a LOT. Somtimes you just have to not care. Now im quiting smoking. It sucks. but I have to, caus eim not going to end up like my dad smoking three packs a day. Also it hurst like hell when i run.

As for stress relief or anything.. I norm hit stuff.. Yes im the big dumbass that will hit a wall a car a post when im angree. I nearly broke my hand once when my g/f was pissing me off real bad and I hit a metal light post. Couldnt move it for like 2 weeks. Now I work with wieghts reg to releave stress and such and work ont he bag a lot too.

As for self inflicting pain. I understand cutters kinda of . I dont like cutting myself. but i think its cool when i get a hudge cut or somthing. and also well let my buddie hit me as hard as they can. I enjoy pain (my whole topic about wanting to get into a car wreck)

This post has been edited by Digndoug: Mar 17, 2005 - 1:26 PM

[BlackCelicaGT94]

Never never never would I cut myself or think about it. Im too much of a pansy when it comes to pain! My brother used to cut himself and even shaved off his eyebrows due to his depression. I just dont get it. I cry when I stub my toe so theres no way im cutting myself on purpose.

[LatinKraze]

I don't cut...I donate Blood. Two Units is the max they let me give and it's only every 3-6 months.

[Anub1s]

I nominate this to be the wierdest thread ever.

[Mynzeyes]

I nominate this to be the wierdest thread ever.
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weird how? it's a real thing...

now, had i said, "who paints pictures of purple and orange unicorns, and dances around in their socks w/ a propeller hat around said picture, while pink floyd's "the wall" is playing in the background"...THAT would be weird.

[x_itchy_b_x]

everyone needs and outlet where u can just let go of stress and every thing.
for me thats driving on narrow backroads just listening to music and tune out the world. most enjoyable thing in the world to me.

in highschool i saw alot of cutting and asked people why they did it becasue i really didnt understand it. i still dont but if it ur oulet go for it. its not hurting anyone else.

[LatinKraze]

I'd be the first on that list!

[Mynzeyes]

everyone needs and outlet where u can just let go of  stress and every thing.
for me thats driving on narrow backroads just listening to music and tune out the world. most enjoyable thing in the world to me.

i did/do that too...

[BlackCelicaGT94]

everyone needs and outlet where u can just let go of  stress and every thing.
for me thats driving on narrow backroads just listening to music and tune out the world. most enjoyable thing in the world to me.

in highschool i saw alot of cutting and asked people why they did it becasue i really didnt understand it. i still dont but if it ur oulet go for it. its not hurting anyone else.
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I completely disagree - you have no idea the pain it caused my parents. It doesnt only cause pain to the person who is cutting themselves but to people around them.

[Mynzeyes]

everyone needs and outlet where u can just let go of  stress and every thing.
for me thats driving on narrow backroads just listening to music and tune out the world. most enjoyable thing in the world to me.

in highschool i saw alot of cutting and asked people why they did it becasue i really didnt understand it. i still dont but if it ur oulet go for it. its not hurting anyone else.
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I completely disagree - you have no idea the pain it caused my parents. It doesnt only cause pain to the person who is cutting themselves but to people around them.
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^ agreed and true.

not all hurt is physical...

[madmods]

John, u need a vac. Come out here and visit next time we have a meet. Ill pick u up at the airport. U have a blast out here.

[Mynzeyes]

John, u need a vac. Come out here and visit next time we have a meet. Ill pick u up at the airport. U have a blast out here.
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pay for my ticket? .

btw, i found a pic:

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[creis]

I new a guy at Fred Meyer that carved "Kill Me" into his arm, I though he was crazy and "stuff" I dont understand why hurting yourself could be a release on anything less then a horrific cry for help, but thats just me. we all have our ways of releasing presure/tenstion that are not exactly "Constructive" I wont fault you for it.

when i feel so over the edge that i might do something bad to myself i try and go to sleep or watch a horrificly scary movie, knowing that it will pass.

Little Life Story:
You know, once when i was in Jr. High, I had such a bad time dealing with everyone making fun of me and picking on me for no reason that i when i got home i grabed a knife and planned to kill my self to end it, my parents stoped me and I ended up going to consoling to lean how to tone it out etc. I only went a few times, but after that i just leared where to walk and how to stay out of peoples ways (became invisible to all except my close friends) (probibly why natalie does not remember me from jr high, or HS.) But look at me know, I have a great job with Microsoft (becoming a nerd has its advantages,) a great car, and sept for being currently single I dont think I could be happier. You never know what life will give you if you give it a chance.

[95gtschick]

john... talk to me!

[saleeka]

ive never understood cutting, but at the moment i am quite irritated with things and somehow it does not sound like an irrational idea... but then again when i have alcohol in me ive been known to do some VERY irrational things... Stress is a b*tch...

[Yota]

Stress is a b*tch...

So true...

[Rjb23]

now, had i said, "who paints pictures of purple and orange unicorns, and dances around in their socks w/ a propeller hat around said picture, while pink floyd's "the wall" is playing in the background"...THAT would be weird.
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Man you said you wouldn't tell anyone!

[creis]

I prefer Qween myself, and my nineicorns have 9 legs, and are 2 timing a donkey. but thast just me.

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[carb0n_f1b3r]

First of all i'd like to say to you that your behavior is not a healthy one, but that also i do not judge you because of it... i am a psych major and i always used to say that psychology is my passion. I now recognize that people not psychology is my passion and to help them through the valleys of life whether spiritual or emotional is my purpose... all that i can do for you is offer my help and what information that i have .. it is not an offer that you have to take nor is it an ultamatim of being wrong should you choose to disregard, but it is a truth that i know given by the people who also had this passion.

there are many reasons why a person physically harms themselves.. most are written off as acts motivated by attention but this is only a slighted observation. a sample of the motives for those who choose to self-mutilate

Escape from emptiness, depression, and feelings of unreality.
* Easing tension.
* Providing relief: when intense feelings build, self-injurers are overwhelmed and unable to cope. By causing pain, they reduce the level of emotional and physiological arousal to a bearable one.
* Relieving anger: many self-injurers have enormous amounts of rage within. Afraid to express it outwardly, they injure themselves as a way of venting these feelings.
* Escaping numbness: many of those who self-injure say they do it in order to feel something, to know that they're still alive.
* Grounding in reality, as a way of dealing with feelings of depersonalization and dissociation
* Maintaining a sense of security or feeling of uniqueness
* Obtaining a feeling of euphoria
* Preventing suicide
* Expressing emotional pain they feel they cannot bear
* Obtaining or maintaining influence over the behavior of others
* Communicating to others the extent of their inner turmoil
* Communicating a need for support
* Expressing or repressing sexuality
* Expressing or coping with feelings of alienation
* Validating their emotional pain -- the wounds can serve as evidence that those feelings are real
* Continuing abusive patterns: self-injurers tend to have been abused as children.
* Punishing oneself for being "bad"
* Obtaining biochemical relief: there is some thought that adults who were repeatedly traumatized as children have a hard time returning to a "normal" baseline level of arousal and are, in some sense, addicted to crisis behavior. Self-harm can perpetuate this kind of crisis state
* Diverting attention (inner or outer) from issues that are too painful to examine
* Exerting a sense of control over one's body
* Preventing something worse from happening

[carb0n_f1b3r]

Most ppl that self-mutilators usually disapprove of aggressive feelings and impulses. If they fail to suppress these they direct them inwardly. . . . they often regard their self-mutilative acts as ways of relieving intolerable tension resulting from interpersonal stressors.

It has been found that people who self-injure usually have not developed three important self-capacities: the ability to tolerate strong feelings, the ability to maintain a sense of self-worth, and the ability to maintain a sense of connection to others. The first of these speaks directly to the emotional-regulation role of self-harm; the others are perhaps related to its communicative functions

Alexithymia is the state of not being able to describe the emotions one is feeling. . This is especially important in understanding the communicative function of self-injury: "Rather than use words to express feelings, an alexithymic's communication is an act aimed at making others feel [those same feelings]"

These reasons can be broadly grouped into three categories:

Affect regulation -- Trying to bring the body back to equilibrium in the face of turbulent or unsettling feelings. This includes reconnection with the body after a dissociative episode, calming of the body in times of high emotional and physiological arousal, validating the inner pain with an outer expression, and avoiding suicide because of unbearable feelings. In many ways, as Sutton says, self-harm is a "gift of survival." It can be the most integrative and self-preserving choice from a very limited field of options.

Communication -- Some people use self-harm as a way to express things they cannot speak. When the communication is directed at others, the SIB is often seen as manipulative. However, manipulation is usually an indirect attempt to get a need met; if a person learns that direct requests will be listened to and addressed the need for indirect attempts to influence behavior decreases. Thus, understanding what an act of self-harm is trying to communicate can be crucial to dealing with it in an effective and constructive way.

Control/punishment -- This category includes trauma reenactment, bargaining and magical thinking (if I hurt myself, then the bad thing I am fearing will be prevented), protecting other people, and self-control. Self-control overlaps somewhat with affect regulation; in fact, most of the reasons for self-harm listed above have an element of affect control in them.

The first thing that has to take place it the recognition that this behavior is unhealthy. i'd guess that your coming out is at least a partial admittiance that you know something is wrong and if i am incorrect then i apologize about that. in all honesty friend i would suggest you find some one to talk to about this and let them help you discover what this underlying problem is... this is something that is secondary to another problem.. behavior that is the result of that problem.. it is not okay to hurt yourself any more than it is ok for those who use drugs to selfmedicate. i understand the utter dispare that comes with life at times but it is conquerable. were i a close friend id ask you to not run from what it is that prevents you from happiness but to take the adversity that is before you and preserve through it . a valley... much energy is expended to cross through this time that you have before you to overcome this valley but it can be done dear friend.. everything that becomes great must at some point overcome strife... it can be done... and if you be religious then have faith pray and you will suffer not through the grace of god .. if you are not religous id ask you to explore the option even if only intellectually the glory that is truth. i'll be more than happy to help you with that as well . pm me if you have any questions .. ryan

[playr158]

yea i've experienced this via a close person to me
i got really upset and distressed cause i didn't know what to do about it
but IMHO don't do it man there are much better ways to do things and get through them

i've done smoking still do it some times
but really i just get in my celica
hit the highway and cruise around its relaxing to know its just me and her out there nobody to bother and she talks to me
"vroom" makes me happy to know that she cares

but nah punching bags but mostly the drive of the celica
i love it

please no cutting

[Jdog1385]

damn john i hear ya bro...just dont take it any further.

stress and anger is a bitch...im glad i play hockey and im sorry for the opposing players. i vent all my stress when i play sports.