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post Mar 17, 2005 - 12:41 PM
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hey all, just got in from trying out "seafoam", gotta say this stuff is WILD. i been reading about it on mr2oc, and been wanting to try it, its supossed to work really well at removing carbon deposits and stuff from your engine, and its supossed to be a upper cylinder lubricant, ect. so, off to napa i went.
droped the $6.50 for bottle(i bought 2 one for the crankcase, one for the gas tank, yes you can use it in your gas take too!) and drove home.
according to the mr2 guys, they are using 1/3 of a bottle in the crankcase, right into the oil filler hole, and letting the other 2/3 of the bottle get sucked into the throttle body from one of the vac lines on top, both with the engine running.
so, i procedded to do it, 1/3 in the crankcase...then i checked the vac lines running into the t/b, pulled a hose off one running in and attached a long hose onto it, and slowly put the other end into the bottle, the engine bogs when you do it, so i reved it up a bit (to about 1500-2000rpm or so) till it sucked in the rest, and let it die.
noticed a bit of smoke as the bottle was just about empty..and let the car bog itsef down till it shut off.
then waited 15min....(finished up the install of my SAFC in the meantime smile.gif ) and started it back up...took a couple seconds to get her running, then OMG it started SMOKING LIKE CRAZY!!!!! now, the mr2 guys said it would do just that, and so did the guy at napa so i was kinda expecting it, but WHOW!! i mean a TON of smoke.. i mean, it was smoking so bad, my neighbor jim came RUNNING outta his house yelling " MANNY, MANNY, WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR CAR!!!!!" hahaha...after about 5 min the smoking settled a little, so i drove around the block for 10-15 minutes, till it stoped smoking.
noticed right away that my idle had dropped about 100rpm from 850 or so to 750 or so (according to the SAFC) and a VERY noticable increase in throttle response.
they also say it helps your gas milage, tho i cant comment on that as i only just did it, but first impression is that this stuff is AWESOME! quieted up the valvetrain up a bit, definite increase in throttle response, and better milage..WOOT TWO THUMBS UP FOR SEAFOAM!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
ohh BTW heres a link to the thread on mr2oc if you guys wanna read up on it abit...gotta be a member to read it, but your all members of that awesome site anyway, right?????
www.mr2oc.com seafoam thread

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post Mar 17, 2005 - 12:45 PM
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Ok, so wait, what is this stuff really for? just cleans out your engine or somthing?
Im bout to run to autozone today or tomorrow and do a oil change an get some fogs, you think this is somthing i should give up a 6er for?
post Mar 17, 2005 - 12:50 PM
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Haha, I got that reaction out of my mom when I used it on my Celica GT-S.

"CHRISTIAN! WHY'S YOUR CAR SMOKING?!"

Good stuff though...I used 1/3 in my oil, 1/3 in my throttle body, and 1/3 in my gas. I sucked the stuff through the throttle body, shut off the car, poored it in the oil and gas, and then started the car up, and took the car to redline a few times around my house(The car had been driven and idling for a long time, so all the fluids were warm.)

After that, I changed my oil, and the car ran a lot better...the idle was more steady, and throttle response improved.

I've read on Honda-Tech that the Sea Foam thins your oil, so you should change your oil right after you do the Sea Foam treatment. I'm not sure if it's required, but I didn't want to take chances, so I did. smile.gif

Oh, and I've also heard that on engines with lots of carbon deposits, it can cause leaks that the carbon deposits previously sealed. I read that this happened usually only on engines with high miles, but it didn't happen to me on my 3S-GE with 154,000 miles though. smile.gif


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hmmmm....verry intersting....i might want to drop 6 in here...and u say i can deposit it straight into the intake? and gas tank eh? sounds good...but im nervous about the smoking thing...


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Hmm. from what Art said and now you, I'm sold. I'll go pick up a bottle as soon as I get a chance.


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QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 17, 2005 - 12:50 PM)


Oh, and I've also heard that on engines with lots of carbon deposits, it can cause leaks that the carbon deposits previously sealed. I read that this happened usually only on engines with high miles, but it didn't happen to me on my 3S-GE with 154,000 miles though. smile.gif
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Thats what Im afraid of, I have 142k on my 7afe.. and I burn maybe a 1/2 quart every 3,000 miles.. so I dont want to do this an make it burn more. right? humm.. what to do?

Think its still worth doign on a highermilage engine?
post Mar 17, 2005 - 1:56 PM
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You have 2 different problems. Your burning oil, this can thin oil, and thinner oil can find ways to get through cracks thicker oils cant. So if you dont have any leaks then theres nothing to worry about.


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yeah i havent even got to 100,000 miles yet and im a 94 so, i pour it straight into my oil, intake, and gas tank? if im right, if im wrong correct me please.


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post Mar 17, 2005 - 2:34 PM
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QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Mar 17, 2005 - 11:15 AM)
yeah i havent even got to 100,000 miles yet and im a 94 so, i pour it straight into my oil, intake, and gas tank? if im right, if im wrong correct me please.
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You don't pour it into your intake. You take off a vacuum line so that the intake manifold is sucking in air through the line, and then you place the line in the Sea Foam liquid so that it slowly sucks up the Sea Foam into the manifold. You don't want to suck up too much at a time, because the engine will bog down and die.


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A bunch of mechanic friends of mine have told me to use this SeaFoam stuff in my car to make it run better and clean it out. What's the best way to use this on my car? I got a 1994 7AFE AT with 195,000 miles on it. I'm in need of an oil change soon so I figure now would be the best time to do this since I'd have to change it anyway. I have an intake. I don't know what you guys mean by vacuum lines on the intake but I dont think I got that. Lol. What's the best way to use this stuff in my car?


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I've heard to leave it running in the crankcase for 200-300 miles, then change the oil. Might get a better clean in there, but I'm sure its nothing drastic.


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I used it as well. Even if you have no desire to clean your engine, it makes a lot smoke which scares people on the road


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Wow, I'm going to try it, but which vacum hose you talking about. There are so many of them? My car dies almoust every time I try to start it. I hope it going to help.
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think it would harm the engine in any way?
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So anyone else try it and their thoughts? I'm leaving for FLorida tommorow but I plan on trying this stuff out as long as there are no bad reviews.


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post Mar 18, 2005 - 5:29 AM
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if you guys are looking for reviews from more people who've done it, click on the link in my first post, theres about 12 pages worth of reviews..lol
TTE: just look for one of the hoses that goes INTO the throttle body.


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post Mar 18, 2005 - 8:44 AM
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Where'd you guys pick it up? Levine and Autopartsstores doesnt care it. I'll try Autozone but thats a trip.


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post Mar 18, 2005 - 8:45 AM
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i got mine from napa smile.gif 6.50 per bottle


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post Mar 18, 2005 - 9:51 AM
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I used the vacuum hose that came off from the IAC.. Since it had vacuum, it just sucked it up, while bogging the engine a little.. And on some of the new cars, it throws a check engine light, and once the idle comes back to "normal", then you can just clear it.. I don't think it happens often though.. But you never know.
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QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Mar 17, 2005 - 10:47 PM)
So anyone else try it and their thoughts? I'm leaving for FLorida tommorow but I plan on trying this stuff out as long as there are no  bad reviews.
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This is the only harm I've ever heard Seafoam has caused...

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I've also heard that on engines with lots of carbon deposits, it can cause leaks that the carbon deposits previously sealed. I read that this happened usually only on engines with high miles, but it didn't happen to me on my 3S-GE with 154,000 miles though. smile.gif
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I gave it a try and put 2 bottles between throttle,tank and crankcase. Actually I was expecting more smoke but thats about it. It drives more smoothly now.
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So which seafoam you are talking about??? Seafoam motor treatment or Seafoam Deep Creep???
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Im not 2 fond of pouring liquids into my engine :-/


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post Mar 21, 2005 - 5:21 PM
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Very interesting... do you all think its worth running through an engine that has 67k miles or is it gona have no affect and a fear of damaging the engine? Sounds interesting for my 87 chevy nova though...
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QUOTE(tengys @ Mar 21, 2005 - 10:35 AM)
So which seafoam you are talking about??? Seafoam motor treatment or Seafoam Deep Creep???
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The motor treatment. Deep creep is the same stuff I believe, just in a spray bottle instead.


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Im not 2 fond of pouring liquids into my engine :-/
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Do you run your engine without oil then? tongue.gif


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Very interesting... do you all think its worth running through an engine that has 67k miles or is it gona have no affect and a fear of damaging the engine? Sounds interesting for my 87 chevy nova though...
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I would imagine that it'd help. I highly doubt you'd damage an engine with that low of mileage with the Sea Foam treatment.


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i demand more smoke!!!!
lol, next person who creates a clowd have camera ready tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Consynx @ Mar 21, 2005 - 3:13 PM)
i demand more smoke!!!!
lol, next person who creates a clowd have camera ready tongue.gif
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I'm planning to do the Sea Foam treament on the '88 GT soon...I'll be sure to take pics, because I have a feeling that thing will smoke a ton.


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we should have a officially sanctioned 6gc seafoam cloud contest ... winner gets a





bottle of SEAFOAM

QUOTE(Consynx @ Mar 21, 2005 - 7:13 PM)
i demand more smoke!!!!
lol, next person who creates a clowd have camera ready tongue.gif
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hmmm...

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lol ...i think i like my odds here....
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I think either of my 2 celica St's will win the cloud contest.. Ill try to get one this weeknd and take pics. BRING ON THE SMOKE!!
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I added it to my gas, oil, and t/b. My idle dropped from 1200-1400 to 800-900. Car feels stronger too.

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pssh, i had NO SMOKE...
until i drove away after letting it sit doing nothing for a couple mins...
YES i let it soak in, and yet i changed the oil tongue.gif

idle did not change, it was already at about 800
and well, i did 1/3 TB, 1/3gas, 1/3Crankcase.


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I used 1 bottle between the throttle body, gas tank, and crankcase. I used the same method that Coomer did. Sucked 1/3 through TB, turned the car off and poured the rest between the gas and crankcase, started the car and took it to redline around the block.

I noticed smoother idling before I finished sucking it in through the vacuum lines, and the small vibration caused by the fans kicking on at idle no longer happens. This stuff is definitely worth a sixer.

I had very minimal smoke on my 7A-FE w/ over 156k miles on it, and I'm letting it soak in right now before I go change my oil.
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BG products makes a similar product, its just a carbon treatment, from my understanding you should have a carbon treatment performed on your car once every 60-80k miles. carbon smells like azz


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if you just put it in the crank case, and gas tank, then you will probably not smoke that much.

you have to put it into the throttle body through a vac line to get the real benefit.


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I'll prolly run this through the gze in a while, not sure when tho smile.gif


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im tempted. Though i just swapped my oil like 2 days ago.

My engine has just under 90k kilometers so i dunno if i'll get much smoke smile.gif
Needless to say when i go for it i'll have my camera on the tripod and remote in hand.

You say it helps throttle response, the only problem i have with throttle response is when i step on the gas quick from idle, if i do that i have hardly any response , more like a bog sensastion, and sometimes i hear a click in the engine. Anything over idle though its great. Any ideas what this is all about ?
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QUOTE(mentat @ May 10, 2005 - 5:24 PM)
im tempted.  Though i just swapped my oil like 2 days ago. 

My engine has just under 90k kilometers so i dunno if i'll get much smoke smile.gif
Needless to say when i go for it i'll have my camera on the tripod and remote in hand.

You say it helps throttle response, the only problem i have with throttle response is when i step on the gas quick from idle, if i do that i have hardly any response , more like a bog sensastion, and sometimes i hear a click in the engine.  Anything over idle though its great.  Any ideas what this is all about ?
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Thats bad.... That click could be your engine about to throw a rod.....

Have you advanced your timing or nething?


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Thats bad.... That click could be your engine about to throw a rod.....

Have you advanced your timing or nething?


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Ryan,
no i havn't done anything to it. Actually its not the original engine that came with the car. The original died with the previous owner and he had another 7afe dropped in.

Like i said though this is just when i hit the gas from an idle. So i have learned to feather the gas and i hardly ever hear it when doing that. I just wish i could nail the gas and have nice response.

So if its a rod what can i do ?
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Pray?



Seriously tho, you should get it checked out, my celica used to do that and I was told by a close friends (who's a mechanic) that when he listened to it w/ a stethoscope or w/e thats what he thought it sounded like. Thats why I'm swapping.

IF it is a rod, then your best bet is a rebuild or a new motor.

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daaamn. Guess i'll be considering a 3sgte for sure now. Always good to have an excuse i guess smile.gif

Thanks for the info FAQ
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im still weary about this... my car has 184,000miles on it and the engine has about 100,thousand but i guess i'll try it in the oil, and gas tank...hmmm

could somebody locate the nearest vaccum line please? biggrin.gif


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In no way should you take my word as gospel, so just keep that in mind. and that exact same situation got me into my current ordeal w/ the 4agze. So dont be so quick to leap towards the fun / costly 3sgte solution, as its still a real pita to get done.


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rod knock dosnt click. its more like a rattle sound that you should be able to hear when u pop the hood open and rev the motor. the rattle will get louder as you rev.

i think we all become car hypocondriacs after reading all this stuff on the net. youll read something about rod knock and the next minute you swear you have it! i could hear some ticking in my motor, and i thought, oh no, its the valves. then i used a stethiscope and found out that it was my injectors ticking (normal).

take your car to 2 or 3 mecanics and see what they all say it is.


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Lago's,

Thanks i'll do that. My car sounds perfect when i rev the thing up its just that initial rev from idle, which i don't do anymore. But i never hear this click anymore as long as i don't hit the gas from idle.

If it goes it goes biggrin.gif
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while we're talking about engine problems/smoke...my car burns oil. Like half a quart per full tank... i think it is the valve guides..anyone else have any ideas? would seafoam or any other fluid anyones used help me? (assuming it is valve guides)...it could also be piston rings, but i don't have much blowby, so i doubt it
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check for leaks under the car...or oil anywhere on the motor.


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there aren't any leaks...no drops on the floor, and the engine is clean...I know its burning oil, because it smokes...
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I know this has been old for a bit, but I'd just like to add that I used this stuff and it works. Just another satisfide customer. I'm thinking about running it through again next time I change the oil, just to make sure I've got all the gunk out.


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how long does the smoke last?

i dont want to get a ticket for driving around town while using this stuff.
post May 23, 2005 - 8:17 PM
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QUOTE(Hanyo @ May 23, 2005 - 8:50 PM)
how long does the smoke last?

i dont want to get a ticket for driving around town while using this stuff.
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It doesn't last that long. If you sit in your driveway for 10min, it'll go away enough that it won't bother anyone. And why would you get a ticket? What cop would do that?


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post May 29, 2005 - 8:31 PM
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just used it but it didnt smoke as much as you all said but it did a little bit and i also noticed a one second 0-60 difference and it just rained too


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