short shifter installed, 7th gen - updated with pics Options

[Batman722]

Thanks to Doug and rjb23 for experimenting with other short shifters (Doug-EVO and rjb23-7th gen). I recieved mine (7th gen about $45 on ebay) and installed. It took about 1.5 hours from start to finish. I downloaded the instructions from TWMs website and read the ones in the how to articles.

I have to say the throw is much much shorter and about 1-2 inches lower than stock. My finger are kinda close to the dash but I think it is because I only used 2 of the 4 spacers (the back 2) plus I have big hands. I will put some pics up when I put the other 2 spacers in.

Bottom line, this this rocks - great mod for $45.

This post has been edited by Batman722: Mar 29, 2005 - 12:24 AM

[macavely]

sweet... next time i'm up there around u have to check that out... but i might be ordering one soon....

[orvillescelica]

batman, would it be possible for you to post pictures of how low it is and how close to the dash the shifter is in gear? Im assuming when you say its close you mean when its in 1st, 3rd, 5th gear.

This sounds like a great mod that i want to do in the future.

[Batman722]

I just put the other 2 spacers in. It is perfect. I will take some pics tonight and post (I am at work now). I am definatly happy about his mod.

Pics to come...

[Coomer]

Wanna drive to Washington so I can see how it feels?

Since I posted up that information, I've been curious as to how an EVO or seventh gen shifter feels compared to my TRD quickshifter.

[soltrain]

did you have to dremel ?

[rlan214]

did you just follow the steps in the 6gc installation http://www.twmperformance.com

[Digndoug]

did you have to dremel ?
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Yuo only have to dremle if you do the lancer one. its cheaper and comes with a knob.. but you have to dremle/sand down..

Also mine is no ware near or close to hitting my hand

I think we owe more credit to Coomer for thinking of this. an then me for trying..

[orvillescelica]

I just put the other 2 spacers in. It is perfect. I will take some pics tonight and post (I am at work now). I am definatly happy about his mod.

Pics to come...
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thanks Bat!!

[Batman722]

in first

from the front of the knob to dash, about 2.75 - 3 inches



that is second





all in first gear



about 2.75 - 3 inches


It feels a bit stiffer than stock and I have heard people use the term "more precise" and I have to agree, definatly more precise.
any questions ? ask away...

This post has been edited by Batman722: Mar 29, 2005 - 12:32 AM

[trdevelopment]

hard to install? mines is coming in the mail...

[Batman722]

actually pretty easy to install. I used the install pdf from TWMperformance.com

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jul 9, 2005 - 12:43 AM

[soltrain]

pictures are so sexy.
so you just followed the install as if it was a twm shifter? no other mods necessary?

and it feels better/shorter throws?
how could anyone justify an extra $100 for a twm shift? or 100+ for trd?

which shifter did you buy? a no name one?

This post has been edited by soltrain: Mar 29, 2005 - 2:24 AM

[Batman722]

pictures are so sexy.
so you just followed the install as if it was a twm shifter? no other mods necessary?

and it feels better/shorter throws?
how could anyone justify an extra $100 for a twm shift? or 100+ for trd

which shifter did you buy? a no name one?
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yes, just like the TWM
no other mods necessary

feels better, shorter, awesome
there are no other aftermarket ones for 6 gens like there are for the 7th gen

cheapest one I could find on ebay (they all looked the same)
ebay one

TWM one


This post has been edited by Batman722: Mar 29, 2005 - 2:56 AM

[djspike]

Now Digndoug and Rjb23 said you had to cut a piece of plastic
did you cut it?

[Batman722]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...

[Digndoug]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...
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I know for the lancer one you def need top, unless you spaced the housing a lot higher. Its all really depends on how high it is sitting so if it is or not bending the shift linkage. If it shifts smothly and you dont have to use much pressure, Only little more then stock, it should be fine. Mine was a BIA in 1st 3rd an 5th.. I mean it was hard to put into gear.

[Batman722]

OK just to be safe I cut mine and didn't feel a difference. It still feels smooth.

Doug and rjb23, did you take out the stock rubber spacers on the assembly ? I did when I put the new spacers on. That might be the problem...

This post has been edited by Batman722: Mar 30, 2005 - 12:39 AM

[Jaws4God]

I don't see the installation instructions on the site for 6gc's.... What do I have to do to install it?

[Batman722]

they took them off the site. Luckily I downloaded and saved them I am hosting them now right click, save as...

do it

[Valo666]

batman..question 4 u...the lil spacer/doughnuts that is included in the 7th gen twm, on the right side under the new lever, what are they for??/do i have to worry about them?

[Digndoug]

batman..question 4 u...the lil spacer/doughnuts that is included in the 7th gen twm, on the right side under the new lever, what are they for??/do i have to worry about them?
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You need the spacers to lift the assembly so the shift linakage dosnt bend or hit. I learned this the hard way, by testing and testing. Also i did the evo one which was a bit more work. Also you will need to cut some plastic tabs on the shift linkage to make it shift smother.

[Batman722]

batman..question 4 u...the lil spacer/doughnuts that is included in the 7th gen twm, on the right side under the new lever, what are they for??/do i have to worry about them?
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You need the spacers to lift the assembly so the shift linakage dosnt bend or hit. I learned this the hard way, by testing and testing. Also i did the evo one which was a bit more work. Also you will need to cut some plastic tabs on the shift linkage to make it shift smother.
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there are stock spacers in your car now. I took those out and replaced them with the new ones. Those are nessessary. I did cut the plastic piece that Doug is talking about a day later, I felt no difference cut/uncut, there was no rubbing at all - I just wanted to be safe.

[azian_advanced]

i'm wondering if the TMW ones are better than the TRD ones.. does anybody know?

[Valo666]

any one have a pic of a 7th gen twm with a trd leather shift knob?

[Valo666]

ty batman for this thread...i got it all installed 2day in like 40 min(didnt have all the tools) but yea it feels good

[Jaws4God]

Batman, did the ebay kit (7th gen) come with all of the parts you need specified in those instructions?

-clips
-cup remover

[Batman722]

ty batman for this thread...i got it all installed 2day in like 40 min(didnt have all the tools) but yea it feels good
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glad to here it. It really isn't that hard to install and it is more fun to drive after

Batman, did the ebay kit (7th gen) come with all of the parts you need specified in those instructions?

-clips
-cup remover
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no, it didn't. So what you do is...
for the clip, either use the old one or buy a clip at a hardware store that looks like this

or

or

one will probably cost about $ .25

for the cup remover, just use a pair of pliers just don't squeeze the plastic cup too hard and crush it. I had no problem getting the cups off and then back on the new shifter.

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jul 10, 2005 - 11:44 PM

[1900WattCelica]

MOOOOOT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=7985600820



44 bucks

Yeah thanks alot guys for all of the Research and Development

[Jaws4God]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...
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I just got mine today in the mail.... I think i'll tackle it tomorrow :-) thank you batman for the info... but I was wondering about the plastic piece... I don't see the pic so i'm not sure what you all cut..

Thank You! :-)

[Digndoug]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...
[right][snapback]263554[/snapback][/right]

I just got mine today in the mail.... I think i'll tackle it tomorrow :-) thank you batman for the info... but I was wondering about the plastic piece... I don't see the pic so i'm not sure what you all cut..

Thank You! :-)
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for the plastic tabs, that might have just been mine, cause i did the evo lancer one. The tabs that sit under the shift linkage, in the housing, right after the clips. The hold the linkage up a lil bit so it bends, but the 7th gen could be dif. I know that mine was sitting to low an bending.

Which made it hard to shift. like it was workout putting it into gears.. an i drove liekt hat for 3 weeks..

This post has been edited by Digndoug: Jul 21, 2005 - 8:10 AM

[Batman722]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...
[right][snapback]263554[/snapback][/right]

I just got mine today in the mail.... I think i'll tackle it tomorrow :-) thank you batman for the info... but I was wondering about the plastic piece... I don't see the pic so i'm not sure what you all cut..

Thank You! :-)
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ok here is the pic



it is the white plastic piece that is under the right cable. Some people needed to cut it, I really didn't need to at all. I cut it just in case it was/would rub the cable, I felt no difference after I cut it.

if you have any questions, post them up

also, make sure you replace your stock rubber spacers with the purple ones provided, I think that is the reason I do not rub (the new ones make the assembly sit higher).

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jul 21, 2005 - 1:13 PM

[Jaws4God]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...
[right][snapback]263554[/snapback][/right]

I just got mine today in the mail.... I think i'll tackle it tomorrow :-) thank you batman for the info... but I was wondering about the plastic piece... I don't see the pic so i'm not sure what you all cut..

Thank You! :-)
[right][snapback]314951[/snapback][/right]

ok here is the pic



it is the white plastic piece that is under the right cable. Some people needed to cut it, I really didn't need to at all. I cut it just in case it was/would rub the cable, I felt no difference after I cut it.

if you have any questions, post them up

also, make sure you replace your stock rubber spacers with the purple ones provided, I think that is the reason I do not rub (the new ones make the assembly sit higher).
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What does that plastic piece do? like what is it for?

Do you have a pic of where those spacers go?

Thank You!

[Batman722]

What does that plastic piece do? like what is it for?

it is just a part of the assembly, no specific reason why

Do you have a pic of where those spacers go?

no, if you follow the TWM pdf instructions I posted, it is kinda step no. 7. There are 4 bolts that hold the assembly to the car chasis. The bolts are 14mm I think and the spacers are just big washers that go in between the big plastic assembly and the car. After you remove the bolts and put in the new shifter, before you put the 4 bolts back in put the new round purple metal spacers in the place of the smaller rubber ones that are already there (between the assembly and the car chasis)

Jaws, don't worry, it is easy. Most people do this in less than an hour. I believe in you, you can do it.

[Jaws4God]

thank you all so much for the help! especially Batman722!!

Here is what she looks like :-D



spacers...



______________________________Before:


______________________________After:


i'll try to get some day shots soon

This post has been edited by Jaws4God: Jul 22, 2005 - 1:25 AM

[TomPoz]

I am just waiting for mine to arrive. Thanks all you guys for extensive coverage - I think I can't go wrong with it.

[Batman722]

thank you all so much for the help!  especially Batman722!! 

______________________________Before:

no problem. Hey is that duct tape holding the shift boot on ? Do you think you are Mac or something

[Rjb23]

I think they were talking about that piece. The GREEN ARROW

I didn't cut mine and it's smooth. I might hack it out tomorrow and see if there is a difference...
[right][snapback]263554[/snapback][/right]

I just got mine today in the mail.... I think i'll tackle it tomorrow :-) thank you batman for the info... but I was wondering about the plastic piece... I don't see the pic so i'm not sure what you all cut..

Thank You! :-)
[right][snapback]314951[/snapback][/right]

for the plastic tabs, that might have just been mine, cause i did the evo lancer one. The tabs that sit under the shift linkage, in the housing, right after the clips. The hold the linkage up a lil bit so it bends, but the 7th gen could be dif. I know that mine was sitting to low an bending.

Which made it hard to shift. like it was workout putting it into gears.. an i drove liekt hat for 3 weeks..
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Nope I had to cut mine because it was like a workout shifting mine too.

Batman, yea I took the rubber spacers out and it didn't make a difference still had to cut the plastic piece.

[TomPoz]

Shifter arrived - installation as soon as I get my Celi from the bodyshop.

[1900WattCelica]

Im thinking about taking that TWM shortshifter install guide and basically copy it over for a new how to, and just label it as how to "install TWM shortshifter/ generic 7th Gen shortshifter" And then add an entry in the parts database for a Generic 7th Gen shortshifter since this works so well. I got mine last week and am doing it right after I finish getting my compustar alarm hooked up.

[Sev408]

still seems to me that the 6th gen TWM shifter is shorter then your "custom" hack job. 7th gens have longer shifters and need more room so overall you want short shifter buy tthe right one for the car.

[1900WattCelica]

still seems to me that the 6th gen TWM shifter is shorter then your "custom" hack job. 7th gens have longer shifters and need more room so overall you want short shifter buy tthe right one for the car.

It may not be as short as the 6th Gen TWM shifter, but it really isnt a custom hack job whatsoever. The only modification you need to do is if you use the evo shifter. The 7th gen shifter requires no extra modification. Heres the summary:

1) Buy an inexpensive shifter for a 7th gen celica
2) Use 6th gen TWM short shifter installation manual

Thats it....it goes in just like the 6th gen shifter, you do absolutely nothing different than the 6th gen TWM manual says to do

[Batman722]

still seems to me that the 6th gen TWM shifter is shorter then your "custom" hack job. 7th gens have longer shifters and need more room so overall you want short shifter buy tthe right one for the car.

What "custom" hack job are you talking about ? The shifters are virtually the same.

I have tried shifting with the TWM and compared it to my 7th gen, and the 7th gen actually had a shorter throw. Ask Art (lagos), he agrees. Have you tried them both side by side ? I have.


that's like saying your antenna is a hack job, get one made for your car not made for a Honda. You dig what I am saying ?

[1900WattCelica]

Did you guys grease up your shifter cups and the ball before you put it in? The instructions say so, so I guess I will have to make a stop and get alittle

[Jaws4God]

Hey batman.. did the caps not fit real well on the 7th gen one? mine were snug.. it seems to shift fine.. but just curious.

[1900WattCelica]

Help!!!

Can anyone take a detailed picture or describe how something goes together. I disconnected the left shifter cable from the L shaped piece that connects to the shifter stick, and when i took the pin out that goes through the top of the shifter assembly, that spring that is lodged in there came off and I dont know the proper way to put it back on. Pics would be awesome. Thanks!!!

[Batman722]

[Batman722]

Hey batman.. did the caps not fit real well on the 7th gen one?  mine were snug..  it seems to shift fine.. but just curious.
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I can't remember if they were more snug on either shifter, pop on, pop off

[1900WattCelica]

thanks!

[markie]

just wanted to let you all know, thanks for the inspiration. i just recently installed my 7th gen short shifter and runs perfect. didnt cut that plastic piece, but still runs smooth. gonna double check if it rubs though later this morning. thanks again, for all the r&d and time taken to make installing so much easier. late!

[DmVinny]

what do u guys think about this one?

damn ebay.. argh. heres the #; 7992411684



This post has been edited by DmVinny: Aug 14, 2005 - 4:59 PM

[Batman722]

yup, should work fine

[1900WattCelica]

just wanted to let you all know, thanks for the inspiration.  i just recently installed my 7th gen short shifter and runs perfect. didnt cut that plastic piece, but still runs smooth.  gonna double check if it rubs though later this morning.  thanks again, for all the r&d and time taken to make installing so much easier. late!
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Nice!

Yeah IDK why but I had to cut the plastic piece for some reason. The cable drags on it. It works excellent though.

[Valo666]

I love my 7th gen shifter...its nice n short n no nuckel smashing on the dash. I fallowed the 6th gen instruction manual to the T, and it worked perfectly. My shifter looks like its a tiny bit higher than the 6gc twm shifter. But i like mine..wasnt gonna pay an extra $50 to get the same results.

[markie]

ya. i ended up cutting that plastic piece anyways. i notice that it was just barely rubbing, i couldnt slide a single sheet of paper in between the plastic and the rod. anyways, still runs smooth with shorter throws. price vs. performance... this is virtually unmatched, lol. late!

[Jaws4God]

no problem. Hey is that duct tape holding the shift boot on ? Do you think you are Mac or something   
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It was yes... but i have a Greddy Counter balance shift knob now and the boot just floats beneath it.. It looks good...

[TomPoz]

Finally I got to installing my shifter and ... disaster - the plastic assembly in my Celi is very much different from the one in the installation manual or on your pictures. E.g. I have two pins on the side (not one) and the small metal rod goes through the stick (not through some plastics around the stick).

Why is my shifter assembly different, any idea? European version?

[TomPoz]

BUMP!

[TomPoz]

OK, nevermind. I am selling my shortshifter.

[1900WattCelica]

Can you post some pics of it?

[Jeremiah]

$41 Shipped:

Ebay

This the same shifter you guys are using? Just want to make shure before I bid.

~K~

[j0e_p3t]

yes

[the_rapture]

was gonna get the short shifter from TWM and didn't the 7th gen short shifter will fit til i found this post
thank alot guys you save me some cash
thank again

[Qazza]

Does anyone know if the short shifters found on ebay for the 7th Gen Celica, fits the 6 Gen Celica GT-Four??

[beno]

What is the difference between a 7th gen, TWM and TRD short shifter?
Apart from them being made by different businesses

[beno]

Anyone?

[Batman722]

What is the difference between a 7th gen, TWM and TRD short shifter?
Apart from them being made by different businesses

the 7th gen and TWM short shifters are just that - short shifters. They lower the top of the shifter and reduce the throw of the shift about 60%, giving you a shorter, more precise shift all together.

info on 7th gen and TWM shifters

the TRD Quick shifter is the entire shifter assembly. It reduces the throw about 40% and the top of the knob isn't as low as the others because it is made to shift quickly and keep your hand closer to the steering wheel for better control.

info and pics of TRD Quick Shifter vs stock shifter

as for fitting a GT-Four, I have read somewhere that they do not fit in RHD Celicas, but I could be wrong. Try asking in forum at celica-club.co.uk

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jun 3, 2006 - 10:19 PM

[CelicaGT04]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Short-Shift...sspagenameZWDVW

So this shifter will fit and i can install it using the TWM Shortshifter insturctions stated for 6th gen?

Correct?

How about this one? Will this one fit also?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-Short-S...sspagenameZWDVW

This post has been edited by CelicaGT04: Jun 6, 2006 - 9:34 PM

[Batman722]

I would say yes

[the_rapture]

does anyone find the shifter a bit losse
i can move mine abit when in gear i think it because of the ball is a bit smaller then the cap
just woner if anyone have the same problem

[Griff]

my stock shifter assembly moves a lil i have a 96 ST, and its well...like in the pics, plastic and giving...it makes me want somthin rugged and metal...any suggestions?

though the pic also had the upgraded one plastic also... so is this not a problem for most people?

oh ya, never messed with the assembly, is it easy to install a new one?

[Cobra]

Ive bought the short shifter for the celica gen. 7th, but its not good for my GT4, the problem is in the plastic clip that go in the cable of the gearbox, the short shifter for the GT4 are bigger than the 7th gen. ive modded the 7th gen short shifter but i havent tried it yet because my car is still disassemblee, but they seems to be good, i will post some pics later

[tonytutino]

yea i have the same problem too, mine moves an insane amount... i bought the same one celicagt04 was looking at... it moves ALOT, like its insane to drive cause it feels like neutral all the time, im thinking about tjust rapping the ball in a ****tttload of electrical tape, that might help. ghetto style

[Cobra]

this is the job that I have done for having a short shifter!!
















This post has been edited by Cobra: Jun 27, 2006 - 1:19 PM

[Cobra]

to comparison, the different dimensions are noticed of you hook him

[Cobra]

yea i have the same problem too, mine moves an insane amount... i bought the same one celicagt04 was looking at... it moves ALOT, like its insane to drive cause it feels like neutral all the time, im thinking about tjust rapping the ball in a ****tttload of electrical tape, that might help. ghetto style

I have made the thing that seemed me more correct, it is important possession a reliable system.

byez

[hitcachi]

...........................holy crap. All that for a short shifter. Dude, thats nuts.

[WH95TE]

How does a short shifter work?

[snapshotgt]

Hey, i read somewhere while searching that the 7th. gen ones don't fit very well...and have some problem with the unit moving while shifting? True? I assume this is just due do a bad install since Dustin has compared side by side.

~snap

[j0e_p3t]

i dunno about everyone else... but mine was really easy to install. and it works great. no doubt one of the best mods i've done to my car and for only about 40 bucks.

[jdg371]

This is going to be one of my "mod" can anyone confirm that they shake too much or not?? or is it because of normal wear

[MaX]

just posting to confirm that 7th gen short shifters DO fit on RHD celi's

fitted it yesterday

reduces it quite a bit and stiffens it up even more...

love it

[laff09]

Anyone confirm if Mobil 1 Synthetic grease will work? Says its for Wheel bearings, Chassis, Suspension and Universal Joints.... Thanks

[snapshotgt]

Hey, i read somewhere while searching that the 7th. gen ones don't fit very well...and have some problem with the unit moving while shifting? True? I assume this is just due do a bad install since Dustin has compared side by side.

~snap

?

[laff09]

BUMP for my question 2 posts up

[Punch]

the twm short shifter for the 6th gen is shorter... by far


This post has been edited by Punch: Aug 12, 2006 - 4:03 PM

[playr158]

the twm short shifter for the 6th gen is shorter... by far

twm ss

[laff09]

Anyone confirm if Mobil 1 Synthetic grease will work? Says its for Wheel bearings, Chassis, Suspension and Universal Joints.... Thanks

[Batman722]

Anyone confirm if Mobil 1 Synthetic grease will work? Says its for Wheel bearings, Chassis, Suspension and Universal Joints.... Thanks

it should be fine

[Starcraftjunkie]

For those who did this, I'm having a ton of trouble removing the two plastic cups from the old shifter. My short shifter (and most of ebay's) don't come with the 'cup remover'. I've tried it several ways and even pliers, but they're on tight. Helpppp me plz.

Any suggestions?

This post has been edited by Starcraftjunkie: Sep 3, 2006 - 11:35 PM

[snapshotgt]

Hey, i read somewhere while searching that the 7th. gen ones don't fit very well...and have some problem with the unit moving while shifting? True? I assume this is just due do a bad install since Dustin has compared side by side.

~snap

?

Anyone?

[QuintinGT]

I used a cresent wrench. I opened it enough for the metal to go through but closed enough to hold the plastic cups. Them I set the wrench on an open vice and hit the shifter with a hammer they popped right off.

[Batman722]

Hey, i read somewhere while searching that the 7th. gen ones don't fit very well...and have some problem with the unit moving while shifting? True? I assume this is just due do a bad install since Dustin has compared side by side.

~snap

?

Anyone?

snap, I have them in both my ST and my GT, there are no problems at all. The thing that would make the shifter move from side to side is this


not on correctly.

[Starcraftjunkie]

Alright.. almost end of the road..
I'm trying to follow the TWM instructions, for reference.

If you refer to the TWM instructions, they've removed the sides of the centre console.. any clue how to do that? I've taken out so many screws and it's still stuck in there..

This post has been edited by Starcraftjunkie: Sep 4, 2006 - 4:56 AM

[twitchh17]

Alright.. almost end of the road..
I'm trying to follow the TWM instructions, for reference.

If you refer to the TWM instructions, they've removed the sides of the centre console.. any clue how to do that? I've taken out so many screws and it's still stuck in there..

yeah in the photos you can see the sides of the center console removed. i guess they did that just to make it easier. but just follow the directions and you'll get it. while following directions youre gonna have to lift up the short shifter assembly at one point and that's where you won't have/want to remove the sides of the center console. good luck installing it. great mod for a low price.

[Starcraftjunkie]

Ya, it's almost done, just need to go borrow a bigger socket from a neighbour. Someone should've mentioned the newer bolts are bigger (not just longer) than the stock. (12mm originals, 14mm modified).

It just happens my socket set for the bigger fittings are broken.

Time to hope my neighbour has one (stupid timing for a holiday)

[hitcachi]

the twm short shifter for the 6th gen is shorter... by far

haha. totally false. by far?? No. In fact, about equal. celiracer has a twm, i have a 7th gen. We met up and compared shifters. Both agreed that they were about the same length and couldnt tell any noticable difference.

[Starcraftjunkie]

How the heck are you guys getting the ratchet to work with no room? I've been trying to tighten it for the last half hour and all I've done is mad myself mad.

The rear 2 you can somewhat get enough room for, but the front two are just cramped. I'm using one single socket extension for the rears. Is there another tool?

Can someone tell me how to remove the centre console trim at the front so I can get more room? I've taken out at least 8 screws and that piece is still attached to the top trim pieces.. argh...

[laff09]

How the heck are you guys getting the ratchet to work with no room? I've been trying to tighten it for the last half hour and all I've done is mad myself mad.

The rear 2 you can somewhat get enough room for, but the front two are just cramped. I'm using one single socket extension for the rears. Is there another tool?

Can someone tell me how to remove the centre console trim at the front so I can get more room? I've taken out at least 8 screws and that piece is still attached to the top trim pieces.. argh...

put the end of the socket wrench in the hole under your CC, rather than pointing back towards the shifter...works pretty good

[rzanology]

well...i orderd a ebay 7th gen short shifter....and it works perfectly fine. it actually makes shifting alot easier....Great mod for the car!!!