Apr 15, 2005 - 8:54 PM
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This has been very briefly covered before but i figured i would make sure everyone in the 6GC community knows. If you want a camber kit you can order through a Toyota dealership. They actually have them, they call them CRASH BOLTS. There are three different kinds, one with one dot, two dots, and three dots on them. All the dots represent are the amount of degrees allowed in the camber adjustment. I will try to find the part numbers (i cant remember who gave them to me) and then ill post back. But they are only like 7 dollars a bolt. (You need one or two bolts per wheel, pending on how much adjustment is needed) So they are cheap, and work perfectly...........Hopefully this helps out a lot of people.
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Apr 15, 2005 - 9:06 PM
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actually I was wondering. the top and bottom strut to knuckle bolts are different right? I bought 4 three dot camber bolts can I use them in place of four bolts?
QUOTE(TRD6GC @ Apr 15, 2005 - 9:54 PM) This has been very briefly covered before but i figured i would make sure everyone in the 6GC community knows. If you want a camber kit you can order through a Toyota dealership. They actually have them, they call them CRASH BOLTS. There are three different kinds, one with one dot, two dots, and three dots on them. All the dots represent are the amount of degrees allowed in the camber adjustment. I will try to find the part numbers (i cant remember who gave them to me) and then ill post back. But they are only like 7 dollars a bolt. (You need one or two bolts per wheel, pending on how much adjustment is needed) So they are cheap, and work perfectly...........Hopefully this helps out a lot of people.
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Apr 16, 2005 - 12:36 AM
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Yea thats what i did. I bought three of the three dot bolts, and used all four of them in the front (to replace all 4 front strut bolts). And i think the rear are the same as the front as well, so you could get them for the back too, but that im not posistive about.
QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Apr 16, 2005 - 2:06 AM) actually I was wondering. the top and bottom strut to knuckle bolts are different right? I bought 4 three dot camber bolts can I use them in place of four bolts? QUOTE(TRD6GC @ Apr 15, 2005 - 9:54 PM) This has been very briefly covered before but i figured i would make sure everyone in the 6GC community knows. If you want a camber kit you can order through a Toyota dealership. They actually have them, they call them CRASH BOLTS. There are three different kinds, one with one dot, two dots, and three dots on them. All the dots represent are the amount of degrees allowed in the camber adjustment. I will try to find the part numbers (i cant remember who gave them to me) and then ill post back. But they are only like 7 dollars a bolt. (You need one or two bolts per wheel, pending on how much adjustment is needed) So they are cheap, and work perfectly...........Hopefully this helps out a lot of people. [right][snapback]272125[/snapback][/right] [right][snapback]272128[/snapback][/right] |
Apr 16, 2005 - 8:45 PM
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alright, thanks man
also edited the title so ppl can actually search for it QUOTE(TRD6GC @ Apr 16, 2005 - 1:36 AM) Yea thats what i did. I bought three of the three dot bolts, and used all four of them in the front (to replace all 4 front strut bolts). And i think the rear are the same as the front as well, so you could get them for the back too, but that im not posistive about.[right][snapback]272214[/snapback][/right]
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Apr 18, 2005 - 6:48 PM
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Thanks......alright i got the part number. It is 90105-15011. This is the one with three dots, it allows for the most amount of camber adjustment. I think the other two part numbers are 90105-15010 and 90105-15012, but not postive. You can call any Toyota dealership for any further information. I got four bolts for $24.36...but there cheaper here.
QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Apr 17, 2005 - 1:45 AM) alright, thanks man also edited the title so ppl can actually search for it QUOTE(TRD6GC @ Apr 16, 2005 - 1:36 AM) Yea thats what i did. I bought three of the three dot bolts, and used all four of them in the front (to replace all 4 front strut bolts). And i think the rear are the same as the front as well, so you could get them for the back too, but that im not posistive about.[right][snapback]272214[/snapback][/right] [right][snapback]272487[/snapback][/right] |
Apr 18, 2005 - 6:52 PM
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Good info. Just for curiousity's sake, do you have pictures of the bolts? I'm wondering how they look compared to my current Ingalls camber bolts(Which I only have in the front.)
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Apr 18, 2005 - 6:57 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 18, 2005 - 11:52 PM) Good info. Just for curiousity's sake, do you have pictures of the bolts? I'm wondering how they look compared to my current Ingalls camber bolts(Which I only have in the front.) [right][snapback]273488[/snapback][/right] No i do not have any pics, but i just bought new strut mounts with camber adjustment, so im hoping i can move the bolts to the back with no problem and then i'll take pics of them. They look like this ==-------D. Instead of an actual CAM like most of them, the center is thinner so you can move it. |
Apr 18, 2005 - 6:59 PM
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Sounds interesting...I'm still having trouble getting my head around the concept of how exactly it'd be able to control camber though.
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Apr 27, 2005 - 2:11 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 18, 2005 - 11:59 PM) Sounds interesting...I'm still having trouble getting my head around the concept of how exactly it'd be able to control camber though. [right][snapback]273493[/snapback][/right] These three pics should explain it: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/TRD6GC/bolt5.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/TRD6GC/camber2.bmp http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/TRD6GC/bolt4.bmp |
May 2, 2005 - 6:40 PM
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what is camber what does itdo how does it make the car handle better? i have no friggin clue what u guys are talkin about.
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May 2, 2005 - 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(nowitzon @ May 2, 2005 - 11:40 PM) what is camber what does itdo how does it make the car handle better? i have no friggin clue what u guys are talkin about. [right][snapback]281585[/snapback][/right] camber theres a bunch of other threads with stuff about camber, like when you need them and where to get them. but this site shows what it does. to make it simple, your cars tires stock are like this |------| and when you lower a car it does this /-----\ |
May 4, 2005 - 6:32 PM
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so if we dont need them why buy them?
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May 4, 2005 - 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(nowitzon @ May 4, 2005 - 11:32 PM) so if we dont need them why buy them? [right][snapback]282605[/snapback][/right] You should only buy them when you do need them. I know some people have said we do not need them no matter how low you are but thats wrong. I have coil overs and lowered almost all the way and before i got a camber kit my tires got eaten away on the inside from riding like /-----\. If you are lowered more than like 2 to 2 1/2 inches then you need them. This post has been edited by TRD6GC: May 4, 2005 - 10:14 PM |
May 5, 2005 - 1:46 AM
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i just put tien type-s on my celica... its only like a 1.25 drop in fron and 1 in back...
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May 5, 2005 - 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(audioOutput @ May 5, 2005 - 6:46 AM) i just put tien type-s on my celica... its only like a 1.25 drop in fron and 1 in back... do u think ill need them? [right][snapback]282829[/snapback][/right] Our cars come stock with adjustable camber, and you will need to have it adjusted most likley. But you will not have to buy an aftermarket camber kit. |
Mar 6, 2009 - 2:53 AM
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how much degrees can our cars adjust without the bolts?
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Mar 6, 2009 - 5:47 PM
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i'd have to double check, but without the crash bolts it shouldnt be that much. But apparently, the crash bolts give more then enough range of adjustment. One guy i talked to said he got it to just over -3 degrees with the crash bolts.
To find out, find someone who does alignments and try to adjust the camber as far negative as possible. -------------------- 95 Celica ST (currently in Motorsport Purgatory)
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Mar 6, 2009 - 6:56 PM
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These bolts are good for the rear. I hate the fronts, you cannot control toe in and out because the assembly moves around alot when you put in the bolts. but thats alignment.
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Mar 6, 2009 - 10:08 PM
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When ever you get 4 wheel alignment, the place doing it will put them on for you if needed, but i don't know how much they are.
I bought my spc camber bolts for $60 dollars ya i know expensive, online is like $45. You only need 1 camber bolts for each strut. Check out this video it shows you how to do it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYi5BupEoM I installed df210 and kyb gr2 on my own. When i went to get alignment, the right front strut was pretty good not off at all. My other 3 struts were off some but not enough to the point where they had to use the spc camber bolts that i bought/provided for them to use if necessary. And i got lucky cause alignemnt was $70 and they would have charged me an additional $20 a strut if they would of use the camber bolts. Before and the actual= after. ![]() hmm pics aren't working trd6gc. did you happen to delete them from photobucket account? This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 7, 2009 - 4:41 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Mar 6, 2009 - 11:24 PM
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good info. thanks.
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Mar 7, 2009 - 1:48 PM
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i dropped 3 -3 1/4 and cut springs and it rides like normal(exept for bumps of course killer) and they dont tilt
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Mar 7, 2009 - 4:42 PM
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no problem trdproven. The shop said i might need the bolts the next time around when i do alignment. which he said you have to do every 12,000 miles. So i'll be good for a year and a half, if not longer.
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Oct 20, 2010 - 8:36 PM
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What I dont understand is how a longer bolt will allow for a greater adjustment. I have too much negative camber (-1.6) and it is causing wearing on the inner tires. What camber kit should I be looking for?
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Oct 20, 2010 - 8:39 PM
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Oct 20, 2010 - 9:45 PM
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Oct 21, 2010 - 11:44 AM
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Where exactly do these camber bolts go? And how does it help reduce camber?
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Oct 21, 2010 - 1:21 PM
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the best way i can describe a camber bolt is like this, its a bolt shaped sort of like a pinball flipper, and you adjust it to your liking or the shop will
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Oct 21, 2010 - 1:50 PM
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So where does it go on the car? i've never really understood them.
I'm lowered on tien s techs 1" in the back and 1.5" in the front. Do I need camber bolts? On the allignment print outThe rear camber was at the msot allowable camber, i think -1.5 or -1.6 -------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
Oct 22, 2010 - 12:59 AM
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it really depends on the shop. hopefully they are honest to you and say then say you need camber bolts when in reality you don't. I got my alignment two years ago with 2.2 inch drop in front and 1.5 in the rear and I bought camber bolts but didn't need them that time. I'm doing alignment in about 3 weeks. So hopefully my lowering springs haven't dropped significantly enough to the point where I'm going to have them install my camber bolts that I bought two years ago. If they do use camber bolts with the alignment, they will charge an extra $20 per wheel or so.
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Oct 22, 2010 - 12:03 PM
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Well I dropped mine myself.
And when I did the allignment the printout said that the most allowable negative camber was -1.6, and thats what my car was at, so they didn't need to adjust it. But should I be worried about tire wear or anything like that? -------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
Oct 22, 2010 - 1:09 PM
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Well I dropped mine myself. And when I did the allignment the printout said that the most allowable negative camber was -1.6, and thats what my car was at, so they didn't need to adjust it. But should I be worried about tire wear or anything like that? Cars come from the factory with negative camber. That's probably just the factory specs. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Oct 22, 2010 - 3:00 PM
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alright thanks man
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Mar 3, 2013 - 5:22 PM
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So those crash bolts. Anyone have pics or tell me how they work? Them links are too old and none of them are working out for me. I'm in need of rear camber bolts.
Found these eibach camber bolt for the rear. I just want to know if they will fit my car? I have a st204 with megan coilovers. http://www.raceinspired.com/p-33620-eibach...-1986-2004.aspx This post has been edited by ILoveMySilly97: Mar 3, 2013 - 5:33 PM -------------------- |
Mar 3, 2013 - 6:26 PM
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they will fit
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Mar 3, 2013 - 7:37 PM
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That's good to know. Im tired of the extreme camber look.
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Mar 3, 2013 - 7:52 PM
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i bet your tires are tired as well
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Mar 3, 2013 - 7:53 PM
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^they look identical to the ones I have, you spin the bolt when you tighten it, and it will push the hub out, or in, depending what you want.
Just make sure if YOU do it, tighten the bolts as much as you can. I've gone driving afterwards and it's popped back into its original place, and had negative camber again. -------------------- |
Mar 3, 2013 - 11:27 PM
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i bet your tires are tired as well Yes they are. Lol. ^they look identical to the ones I have, you spin the bolt when you tighten it, and it will push the hub out, or in, depending what you want. Just make sure if YOU do it, tighten the bolts as much as you can. I've gone driving afterwards and it's popped back into its original place, and had negative camber again. That's something I'm expecting. I'm pretty sure it's just a skinnier bolt with a flap that rotates around. Pushing the top of the strut outward or inward. Which makes the negative or positive camber as desired. -------------------- |
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