raced a 240 sx, and won!!! Options

[rockstarbass1]

well as it says.......

i was in front of the 240 sx, he gets over and he came flying past on my left . i was like f it, cuz it was raining.Then a gay honda tryed flyin past on my right (had a **** fart can)and i was like f it let them 2 go at it,and they did and took off the the 240 sx won.
well about 5 min later hes aways up, and my friends like i know ur faster then that honda catch him, so i take off not fast tho keep it in 5th.catch up and he take off but i stay on him, so he gets over we slow to about 55, and my firend looks over give the thumbs up and we go! we go to about 90 and left off when i was a 1/2 to a car legnth infront of him
sound un real or by able for a 240 sx?
i got a 94 st with a gt swap i believe
i kno it was a st but who i bought it from had a cuz with a gt and i coulda sworen he said he swaped it out also i beat a pgt with a exhaust the other night from a stop to 65. i have a short ram and cat back of some sort nothing great tho.

[ghostdog]

I do find it hard to believe that a 7afe powered celi could beat a 240sx. and I doubt it was bad driving because the KA24 has quite a bit of torque. as for your car having a 5sfe, do you have any pictures of the engine bay?

[rockstarbass1]

no not right now, and from what i have seen it looks like a 7afe tho. idk i seam to have alot more power then what ppl say tho about these cars i mean i mess around alot, but idk. it seams like high end i have alot of speed, but like in first some times there isnt a whole lot of torque?? its weird i tryed burning out 2 day and i couldnt, and i was like wtf!!! but then again i need air in my tires

[StreetRacing10PS...]

u def dont have a 7afe than if u kept up with a civic, i mean 240sx lol

[rockstarbass1]

u def dont have a 7afe than if u kept up with a civic, i mean 240sx lol
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what?? was that a joke or what?? lol idk i kept up and past a 240sx or somethin that looks jus like one and i beat a pgt from 0-65 lmao idk what i got

[dustin15brown]

How hard is it to find out what engine you have? take pics of the engine bay

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[Kwanza26]

240sx's are bloody slow with the stock KA24... My stock ST can hang with them...

[JoeyIsFunny]

What gen 240 was it?? The 95-99's had more power than the previous model.. Maybe it was an older one? Still, those things have some go to em.

[rockstarbass1]

no damn clue i just know i was goin 90 to catch it we slowed to like 55 or 60 and went to about 90 or somethin and we both let off at the same time and i was ahead of him

[urbandork]

I i recall a 95 240 is around the same hp and torque as a gt. I think the weight is about the same.

[Puchi]

I've owned a S13 and a GT 6gc. S13 wins.

[OrbitalGT95]

I i recall a 95 240 is around the same hp and torque as a gt. I think the weight is about the same.
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wrong..sry a 95 s14 has 155hp and 160 torque...much more then a gt

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[celicaboston1983]

I think 93 up had about the same hp. I know for sure a 93 has 155hp 160tq

[urbandork]

I i recall a 95 240 is around the same hp and torque as a gt. I think the weight is about the same.
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wrong..sry a 95 s14 has 155hp and 160 torque...much more then a gt
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lol ur right i duno what i was thinking.

[drnovascotia]

He's right. . my 240 stock with 155 torque would beat my celica. . much more torque and same weight. But if he's a bad driver or a slowmatic, then I could see beating him with a GT, but no way in hell with a ST. St runs 17's, 240's run 16's all day long, high 15's with mods and 5 speed.

Dr.

[chucho]

then again I used to smoke my friend in his 240 but he had a bad sensor and had no acceleration what so ever. Now he has a 300ZX and can handle me w/ no problem.

[shin]

i raced my friend's 240sx (S13) before, he's got injen intake/custom headers, dunno what exhaust, stage 3 clutch, short shifter and apexi front strut brace. the 240sx is fast, especially on turns, but i still won lol.. more bout the driver than the car lol...

[darksecret]

I i recall a 95 240 is around the same hp and torque as a gt. I think the weight is about the same.
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It's actually the other way around the KA24 produces about the same torque as the 5SFE produces horsepower and around the same the horsepower as the 5SFEs torque.
Nevermind, it's 140hp and 152 lbs. ft. for the SOHC and 155hp with 160 lbs. ft. for the DOHC from 1990 to 1994. Also keep in mind that they have a curb weight of around 2700 lbs. when you're dealing with close horsepower and torque numbers that makes a difference. As far as a 7AFE beating a 240SX single or double you need some serious work done, 5SFE with I/E could run with them easily but not destroy them.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Apr 27, 2005 - 10:48 AM

[StreetRacing10PS...]

i can garantee you that the 240, know matter what year it is, is just a little faster than a 6th gen.

[Consynx]

maybe out the factory...what about after 10 years of driving?

1/4 mile times that people pull off websites are not accurate, every car is different if not cared for.
ie. my buddy bought a Acura GS-R from some old guy w/ 150K on it. Ran it at the track and on his 2nd run hit a 15.6, which i believe is the car and driver time for it.
where as i believe eclipse GSXs were low 14's when they came out, but now most expect low 15's when they get it.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Could the 240 actually been an older 200? Or even a Honda Accord hach? These cars all have a similar look to them. And I would believe much more that you could handle those.

[darksecret]

Who would want to swap a 7AFE for a 5SFE, it's just as easy to throw a 3SGTE in it. Ask easternpiro1 if a 7AFE can outrun a 240SX, he's got an intake and exhaust and still got his a** handed to him by a Civic 4 door. The 240SX is a lot slower than the numbers say but a 7AFE still couldn't hold up, s*** the 5SFE has a hard enough time. To know for sure what engine you have does it sit straight up or lean towards the windshield?

[StreetRacing10PS...]

maybe out the factory...what about after 10 years of driving?

1/4 mile times that people pull off websites are not accurate, every car is different if not cared for.
ie. my buddy bought a Acura GS-R from some old guy w/ 150K on it.  Ran it at the track and on his 2nd run hit a 15.6, which i believe is the car and driver time for it.
where as i believe eclipse GSXs were low 14's when they came out, but now most expect low 15's when they get it.
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turbo GSX's run 14.9 stock. 3 people i no have them and 14.8 was the lowest they ever got and 14.9 was average.

[Consynx]

eh, my DSM roomie agree, high 14 stock, but stock now they dont hit 14's often

[rockstarbass1]

well i got no clue then i dont see why if he knew what i was doin why he would let me beat him by only a half to a car legnth??? and i im prety sure it was a 240 sx. idk tho but i know it had a long ass TRUNK, not a hatch a trunk i could tell that much

[Consynx]

i raced a porche and won...
it looked like a porche by the headlights...coulda been a 7th gen celica GT

j/k

[rockstarbass1]

actualy im about to get a porche 944 i believe or somethin its like a late 80's early 90's lol my moms boss is awesome!

[chucho]

I heard that they are POS really a pain in the behind to work on.

[darksecret]

The KA24 is a very old design and people that are familier with imports have a little trouble with them, they're not too bad though.

[rockstarbass1]

i kno nothing about them! lol

[MonsterBOX]

maybe the 240sx accidentally skipped a gear???3-5?

[darksecret]

maybe the 240sx accidentally skipped a gear???3-5?
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Or 2-5 against the 7A or maybe he used the cruise control to accelerate.

[MonsterBOX]

seriously....my 7afe...hell with 4 people in my car i cant even keep up with geos

[chucho]

The KA24 is a very old design and people that are familier with imports have a little trouble with them, they're not too bad though.
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ur talking about the 944 right? I'm talking about the realibity they break all the time and have a poor engine design. This is coming from an import shop

[darksecret]

My mistake I thought you were talking about the 240SX motor, i've heard the 944 had a crap motor and for a Porsche they're pretty slow.

[rockstarbass1]

if i can get it for less then 3 grand i think its worth it. then ill have a 944 and 6gc

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I heard that they are POS really a pain in the behind to work on.
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My mistake I thought you were talking about the 240SX motor, i've heard the 944 had a crap motor and for a Porsche they're pretty slow.
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Woe woe, were did you guys hear they were POS's? Porshe is suposed to be more reliable than Toyota. Porshe is the top of the list. And as for those motors being slow, drive one.

[chucho]

Porshe is suposed to be more reliable than Toyota.
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Supposed is the whole line. The 944 isnt a good car. It is the slowest porsche on the market and if you ask anybody that has one they are not reliable by any means. & a pain to work on.

Found this, only goes back to 1990

Midterm Reliability Ratings (1-3 years) definition
Mechanical Reliability 2/5
Body and Interior Reliability 2/5
JD Power rating*

Date Posted
08/10/2003 Interesting car by JOE SMITH
Style: 2 Dr S2 Convertible

Review: I have owned the car for more than 3 years. Very nice - but be prepared to TAKE CARE OF THE CAR. This is not a Honda Civic that only needs an oil change. It will need new belts every 30K and extras to make sure she stays in top running condition --from edmunds.com


thats why i said its not a good car....not a well built car. Now I do like the 911s

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[chucho]

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[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I give, if it's not a Toyota, espesially not a Celica, almost everyone on here hates it.

[StreetRacing10PS...]

Porsche 911's are my favorite porsche, just my opinion

[chucho]

I give, if it's not a Toyota, espesially not a Celica, almost everyone on here hates it.
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nah dude, i'm not all about the celica. I'm just one of those guys that are around alot of different cars and know ppl w/ them. & that car is a beast to keep in running order. I love the 3000GT, looks, & power....but wouldnt get one 'cause you know you'd be under the hood like crazy....& for that matter the 7mgte engine is a time consuming engine too. But I would get me a 1990 supra and play w/ it.... I just love the styling of the car and want to play w/ one extremely bad. I almost got rid of my dependable celica for it but decided I should keep my dependable car and get the supra when I dont have to drive it on a daily basis

[rockstarbass1]

ive come to realize if its not the car the forums about its getting diss-ed on. inless us st guys are talking about our car then the gt;s pick on us just like any other forum the vr-4 guys pick on the st guys on 3si and the gt guys on PT pick on the se guys. so idk. as for being reliable from how long i ahve known the man he has owned that car and babyed it. and it has broke a few times but it seams good and i think its preaty dam fast. and i mean its still a 4 cly lets see a celica beat that. could a gt-4 beat it??

[chucho]

its right at 209 hp, and 208 tq, I believe. Pretty quick car. But like you said he babies it and has broken on him a few times. I'm just trying to look out for you. Dont make it your permit transportation. Its a good car if you have money to just put into something. Its not meant to be a daily driver.

[darksecret]

Don't forget it's also around 3,000 lbs.

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[rockstarbass1]

thats little porsche is 3000lbs?!?!? well how fast you you all say it is? like 1/th time 0-60 times?? im not looking for a speed demond here, its just a cool car for cheap. and fater then what i have now

[darksecret]

That's what Edmunds reports and they're pretty accurate. They are an a** to work on, but they can be beast if done right. Stock they're about as fast as a GSX or mid-90's Mustang GT, which is still better than the Celica.

[darksecret]

We weren't trying to pick on the 7A rockstar, we just now that unless you you add a lot of mods to the 7A it's hard to make it powerful enough to take the 240SX. As everyone is saying it wouldn't make a good daily driver, it's only got around 200hp, it's heavy and the parts would be expensive to replace, and it has bad mileage for a 4 cylinder. If you want a good looking quick car to make a daily driver go for a mid 90's Talon TSi, those things are around the same but the repair cost is nothing compared to a Porsche and the mileage is much better.

[rockstarbass1]

before i got my celica i was thinking a tsi but i heard they break alot or just as much as a 3000gt and theres crank walk alot with them. and if that happens the engines done with. and i didnt want that, if i got this 944 i would keep my celica for a daily driver and have the 944 for week ends and thats kinda stuff. also i dont know how fast a stang gt from the 90's is or a gsx

[darksecret]

Crank walk is a problem with pushing a stock 4G bottom end to it's limit, the mid-90's GT's and the GSX aren't that fast, they run typical low to mid 15's, let's just say I wouldn't take that Porsche up against an RSX-S or newer Z28.

[easternpiro1]

Who would want to swap a 7AFE for a 5SFE, it's just as easy to throw a 3SGTE in it. Ask easternpiro1 if a 7AFE can outrun a 240SX, he's got an intake and exhaust and still got his a** handed to him by a Civic 4 door. The 240SX is a lot slower than the numbers say but a 7AFE still couldn't hold up, s*** the 5SFE has a hard enough time. To know for sure what engine you have does it sit straight up or lean towards the windshield?
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HEY!!!!!!! I SAW THAT!!! *ITS DEPRESSING!!

[easternpiro1]

BUT ITS TRUE....

[darksecret]

It's alright Matt just keep telling your car that you'll get it a 3SGTE when it gets big, and maybe take it to McDonalds to play in the ball pit, lol j/k.

[Mr2_Joel]

before i got my celica i was thinking a tsi but i heard they break alot or just as much as a 3000gt and theres crank walk alot with them. and if that happens the engines done with. and i didnt want that, if i got this 944 i would keep my celica for a daily driver and have the 944 for week ends and thats kinda stuff. also i dont know how fast a stang gt from the 90's is or a gsx
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eclipse's have crappy transmissions.....Every friend that has had a gsx, or an eclipse for that matter has had some bad trannies. And you don't have to worry about crank walk "too" much provided you take care of it. Ppl thinking that every dsm will have crank walk is a misconception. And if you can drive a gsx good, launching it and all, I'd say it's quicker than 15's. I've driven my friends on a failing tranny and it seems almost as fast as my 2. I'd beat him, but not by a lot, he only had intake and exhaust and a short shifter.

[darksecret]

It's the GSX that has a bad transfer case and transmission, I think it's only good for 400hp and I believe a stronger replacement is pretty expensive, just like on most AWD cars. The FWD versions are better in terms of reliability but it's still a FWD.

[rockstarbass1]

well i mean this car only had like 85k on it, and if i can get it for like 2.5 or 3 grand u dont think its worth it?? he has all the hook up on mechanics on this hing so if i ahve a problem i can get it fixed dirt cheap. and its faster then my celica. im not going for the fastest porsche. just somethin nice with a little more go then a st. and 200+ hp is nice to me. coming from 110

[darksecret]

Yeah it would be worth it, if you can get cheap repairs, there isn't much wrong with the 944, it was just Porsches bastard child, one question is it an S2?

[rockstarbass1]

whats a s2?? the turbo one?

[darksecret]

They are the non-turbo versions made until 1991, the turbo was availible until 1989 and has 217hp until 1988 when they made an S model availible with 250hp.

[darksecret]

This was taken from 944 central:

Like many other automobiles that do not have an overwhelming "collector" following, the 944 (like its siblings) has depreciated significantly over the years. This may prompt budget-minded consumers to consider the 944 for their sportscar of choice. If this is your motivation to purchase a 944...please reconsider. The 944 is a Porsche through and through, and has similar maintenance needs (and costs) of any other Porsche. The 944 is not a "starter car" for your 16 year old; nor is it a "stepping stone" to a 911. Don't buy one to drag race with your buddies, or trick-out with the latest in tacky accessories. There is enough of that out there already, and plenty of other cars that will serve you quite well for such purposes. True 924/944/968 fans have an honest appreciation for the series--the excellent handling, appearance, value, and in some cases, performance.

[darksecret]

Also consider the 944 from '83-'85 only had 150hp, still up from an ST but it still requires Porsche maintenance.

[rockstarbass1]

true i dont know if its an s meaning 250 hp or what it is im thining its like a 1988 or 89 im not sure tho. i will try to find out today. but im sure its a good 15 sec car and can be made vaery fast with a simple supercharger. do you guys know of any 944 fourms?

[darksecret]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10

Here is a good one.

http://www.dimmer.net/hosted/944central/links/

This one is good for info.

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