Porsche Carrera gets owned somehow by my Celi!, Don't ask me how... Options

[OOBE]

My buddy back home was with his wife in my Celi and there's a guy in this Mitsubishi Mirage that wanted some...so the guy in the Mirage jumps ahead and my buddy floors it and he said the Mirage looked like he hit reverse in fast forward, hehe, then he saw the Carrera try to catch up, so he nailed it and let it go, the Carrera lined up and he heard the Carrera go in WOT...said it sounded damn cute, hehe, so he nailed it and he left the Carrera behind. He said he was running boost higher than I ever did. I hope he doesn't blow my engine, LOL, but he said his wife was all excited because they smoked a more expensive car than mine.

[OOBE]

He is telling me right now that the car takes off strong but at 4,000 it gets crazy and it even spins the wheels a lot. I don't know what the hell my buddy is doing with my car, but sure as hell I am loving it...and if the engine breaks, he can fix it...he's the one that rebuilt it in one night!

[blaque_6thGen]

that's pretty crazy dude! do you still have the 7afe with auto tranny? also, was it difficult to install the turbo? what are you boosting (still a little over 12?)?

just asking because i also have a 7afe, auto. i just want to know it's capabilities.

This post has been edited by blaque_6thGen: Jul 2, 2005 - 1:59 PM

[OOBE]

He said it was changing boost on him...didn't tell me the boost level but I am assuming around 10-12...which on my turbo is good power because it has a pretty good size compressor. It's still on the stock 7A-FE with stock auto tranny. We are going to keep it until it breaks, hehe. Turbo install was cake...but it's so easy to miss any important details...that is why I broke a piston when I turbocharged it.

[Celica_Kid95st]

Thats awesome man!! lol. Hey how much did it cost u to turbo ur celi, i mean everything, the whole price. Thanks man. -john

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

thats awesome. tel your friend to come to Tallahassee so he car turbo my ST auto.

[OOBE]

It cost me over $ 4,000 because I bought pretty much everything name brand and spakin' new. But that was for parts, miscellanous stuff was like over $2,000 plus other expenses when parts wouldn't fit. I have spent way too much on my car and I don't see it yet, hehe.

[Celica_Kid95st]

lol. How much hp r u gettin? -john

[OOBE]

I have no clue, man, haha. Those cars have from 315 to 325 on the S and 4 S and 4xx on the turbo. That one was a non-turbo so it was either S or 4S...it's a 13 second car so I assume my friend was boosting higher than usual/recommended. Still, he embarrased the guy and that is all that matters, LOL.

[CheesyLobster]

I think people generally dont give the celica enough credit.

[jgreening]

Sounds like a nice set-up that should give you lots of smiles. However, lets take a reality pill here. The Porshe and the ST (even with FI) are in two different leagues. I guarantee that it was either driver related, the porsche had mechanical issues, or the guy wasn't getting on it 100%.

[bloodrain]

Sounds like a nice set-up that should give you lots of smiles.  However, lets take a reality pill here.  The Porshe and the ST (even with FI) are in two different leagues.  I guarantee that it was either driver related, the porsche had mechanical issues, or the guy wasn't getting on it 100%.
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I second that. My best guess is the guy was just driving normal and he thought the porche was racing him, lol. The guy that owns the jewerly shop right next to me took me out in his Porche 911 Turbo, and if the 2 porches are anything alike, I HIGHLY doubt a turbo charged celica could take him.

[Rjb23]

Sounds like a nice set-up that should give you lots of smiles.  However, lets take a reality pill here.  The Porshe and the ST (even with FI) are in two different leagues.  I guarantee that it was either driver related, the porsche had mechanical issues, or the guy wasn't getting on it 100%.
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I third it, my friend has a porshe 940 series I forget which one its not the 944 but kinda looks like it. It's not that fast and its heavy and an automatic but its still going to be faster than a 190-200 whp car. Which is about what the st would be getting with 12 psi.

[MonsterBOX]

boxster isnt as fast as people think...ive seen plenty of modded imports kill boxsters

[jgreening]

boxster isnt as fast as people think...ive seen plenty of modded imports kill boxsters
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The guy said "carrera" Do they call the boxster carreras too? I assumed he was talking about the $400,000 super car.

[blaque_6thGen]

jgreening, you're thinking about the carrera gt. but never the less, porshe carreras are fast but not unbeatable. my cousin has a 97 jetta that he souped up enough to beat a carrera.

oobie, you must be boosting like crazy and have your car running great. props (i just hope that the porsche was racing and got his butt kicked!)

[bloodrain]

jgreening, you're thinking about the carrera gt. but never the less, porshe carreras are fast but not unbeatable. my cousin has a 97 jetta that he souped up enough to beat a carrera.

oobie, you must be boosting like crazy and have your car running great. props (i just hope that the porsche was racing and got his butt kicked!)
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i hope the porsche wasnt racing, I'd hate to see such a beautiful car lose to a celica. Sorry guys, i love my celica, but the porsche just looks more sexy. Oh ya, the Carrera is not a boxster, the carrera GT is the "super car" that blaque mentioned. Big difference.

Carrera GT:
http://www.aoqz76.dsl.pipex.com/Web%20Page...arrera%20GT.jpg

Carrera:
http://www.automotriz.net/2003/galeria/ima...arrera-4-01.jpg

Boxster:
http://www.quantumsoft.co.uk/files/clipart...e_Boxster_S.jpg

[OOBE]

I understand that is hard to believe, guys. But I haven't believed bigger things and they end up being true. I talked to my buddy today...he confessed he was boosting quite high with the 550cc Venoms, hahahaha, he's trying to break it. I told him I didn't want to know boost level, hah!. He really wants forged internals on the engine, LOL. The Carrera he ran was a 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera coupe, which is only a 13 second car and is way heavier than my Celi. The point here is that the 7A-FE held together, is automatic and smoked a cocky owner who instigated the race in his pricy Porsche...that is ALL. My engine survived over 12 PSI, *+1300 EGTs on stock injectors with a broken piston...now it survived this...I am trying something different in a month when I go there.

*EDIT: 1300 not 13000!

This post has been edited by OOBE: Jul 3, 2005 - 4:00 PM

[blaque_6thGen]

hey...i believe it dude, and i think that's frikin' awesome! keep us up on the future mods. so that every porsche you encounter can get

[lagos]

sorry buddy, but a an automatic 1.8l at 12psi is not faster then a 13sec car.

[OOBE]

Read again, my brother...I never said it was 12 PSI.

[Consynx]

well he claims the boost could be higher...
just How much higher

[OOBE]

No clue, but something tells me my engine is not lasting too long, hehe.

This post has been edited by OOBE: Jul 3, 2005 - 5:18 PM

[blaque_6thGen]

eh, either way...even if it didn't really happen the way your friend said, i'm sure that you're running faster than the rest of us st's and a most gt's. there are probably quite a few cars that you can take out on the road.

but lagos does have a point...even if you are boosting at about 12 (not saying that you were or were not) it would still be difficult to get the car into the 13s.

...it would be cool to see if an st could take out a car reaspected as much as the carrera. if anybody has some kind of stories they should post up!

[drnovascotia]

Dood. . your friend is FULL of BS. NO way a 7afe beat that car!
Even with 15psi that car wouldn't run over 225hp, and that car could kick any car with 225hp.

Tell your friend to come up with a more realistic story.
I'm with Lagos here. . ..

Dr.

[Consynx]

at first i thought this was about the cayenne, and i was still skeptical
"fastest SUV in the world"

[Digndoug]

sorry buddy, but a an automatic 1.8l at 12psi is not faster then a 13sec car.
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Boxers arnt 13 sec cars... there mid 14's- 15 depending on the driver.. There more just style..

[Consynx]

we've determined it was a carrera, not a boxster, not a boxster S...the carrera

[CheesyLobster]

I believe oobe. the 7atfe has much more potential than people like to believe. plus the gearing for the tranny is made for that engine to maximize torque. I can believe this one, not impossible at all.

This post has been edited by CheesyLobster: Jul 4, 2005 - 4:27 AM

[soltrain]

Emmmm, my vote also goes with lagos

But hey, if your engine breaks, just imagine how fun forged internals will be

This post has been edited by soltrain: Jul 4, 2005 - 4:46 AM

[CheesyLobster]

Find out what boost he was at for sure and get some time slips or something. Video would be cool, too.

[drnovascotia]

Sorry guys, just looked it up and it runs 13's stock, 14's if it's Caqrrera 4.

Still much faster than a 7afte. . runs 17's stock . . it MIGHT have 225hp, best case scanario, which would be 14's, so it smoked a 13 second card ?

Come on.

Dr.

[MonsterBOX]

boxster isnt as fast as people think...ive seen plenty of modded imports kill boxsters
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The guy said "carrera" Do they call the boxster carreras too? I assumed he was talking about the $400,000 super car.
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yea u dont have to remind me i understand im just sayin in general not all porsches kill everything....boxster is an example of a slower porsche calm the **** down

[jgreening]

boxster isnt as fast as people think...ive seen plenty of modded imports kill boxsters
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The guy said "carrera" Do they call the boxster carreras too? I assumed he was talking about the $400,000 super car.
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yea u dont have to remind me i understand im just sayin in general not all porsches kill everything....boxster is an example of a slower porsche calm the **** down
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I just asked a question. I am not very familar with Porsches. Calm down?

This post has been edited by jgreening: Jul 5, 2005 - 12:31 AM

[MonsterBOX]

sorry i miss understood internet sucks sometimes....boxster isnt the same as carrera at all it has like 220hp

[playr158]

drnovascotia---

the 7AFTE has indeed the potential to push over 225whp at ruffly 15psi
you need to do your homework before speaking.....

but oobe
when you do get back to your celica with a blow motor lol
let me know exactly wat PSI and such he was running so i'll have a lil more info for my project

but good thing with mine is.....from the start i'm using forged internals

[OOBE]

I will let you guys know, haha. But I told him to ease up on it because I have never fully enjoyed the car since it was turboed so I want to do it this time I go back home in a month. After that, he can push 1000 PSI and blow it to smithereens if he wants...he'll be the one rebuilding it, LOL!

[drnovascotia]

you need to stop speaking pure and utter BS. runs 13's and 14's model depentent the 1/4, I'm fairly certain this is correct

Show me dyno's of 7afte's on 15psi with over 225hp and I'll shut up, or show me a 1/4 slip with a 7afte that used to run 17's now run 13's.

stock 7afe is less than 100hp to the wheels, 225 would be a damn lot from such a small engine, even if the stock HG could take 15psi, which I'm not sure of on the 7afe. forgive me if I seem reluctant to believe this car smoked a porsche, but I believe myself and others seem to agree this doesn't sound 100% correct.

And "leaving it behind"? thats gotta mean the celica would need to run 12's, right ?

Don't single me out as the only one not believing you, and I readily admit I might be wrong, i'm even asking you to do so.

Dr.

This post has been edited by drnovascotia: Jul 5, 2005 - 10:35 PM

[celicast3sgte]

bring us footage of your boost gauge hittin whatever it is he ran and take a drive with the camera. hell a dyno sheet or time slip on your valve cover would be nice too...

[CheesyLobster]

you need to stop speaking pure and utter BS. runs 13's and 14's  model depentent the 1/4, I'm fairly certain this is correct

Show me dyno's of 7afte's on 15psi with over 225hp and I'll shut up, or show me a 1/4 slip with a 7afte that used to run 17's now run 13's.

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kwanza ran a 16 second quarter mile in a 7afe with no boost at all, and that is recorded. I'm sure with moderate boost, a 7afte could shave off 2 seconds rather easily.

[blu94gt]

I'm guessing that the Porsche was most definitely a Boxter, and not an S, and definitely not a 911 Carrera or Carrera GT.

[playr158]

n/a i ran 17.4 in my ST......and i can go down to the 16s with practice

"Show me dyno's of 7afte's on 15psi with over 225hp and I'll shut up, or show me a 1/4 slip with a 7afte that used to run 17's now run 13's."

and you need to learn STs cause you can ride a decent amount over 200whp with 12psi on stock internals

and i believe with my setup i'll clear 15psi and 250whp is my goal

[drnovascotia]

And maybe with a built engine you'll get that. you expect to almost triple the hp of a car with 12psi ?

I'm sure a ST can gets 16's, but thats still damn slow, lol. But I don't drive my celica for speed so thats no biggie

Your answer still didn't provide any proof . . . .

and still doesn't show how a 240hp could smoke a porsche. . .

I'm not trashing the 7afte, I almost turbo'd my 4afe. but I'm not seeing any proof it'll smoke a porche here. . .

Dr.

[playr158]

porsche really isn't all that fast either.....

but you have to consider weight/power ratio
and boost ect.....

[nik]

you need to stop speaking pure and utter BS. runs 13's and 14's  model depentent the 1/4, I'm fairly certain this is correct

Show me dyno's of 7afte's on 15psi with over 225hp and I'll shut up, or show me a 1/4 slip with a 7afte that used to run 17's now run 13's.

stock 7afe is less than 100hp to the wheels, 225 would be a damn lot from such a small engine, even if the stock HG could take 15psi, which I'm not sure of on the 7afe. forgive me if I seem reluctant to believe this car smoked a porsche, but I believe myself and others seem to agree this doesn't sound 100% correct.

And "leaving it behind"? thats gotta mean the celica would need to run 12's, right ?

Don't single me out as the only one not believing you, and I readily admit I might be wrong, i'm even asking you to do so.

Dr.
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i'm not single anyone out but i'm here with my facts on the 7afte everyone knows the parts i had on my 7afte and saw the dyno sheets and dyno videos

so here we go.....

go here for dyno charts

i dont know who won the race dont really care

now for facts

On a Garrett T3 50 trim turbo my car did 170 WHP 180 torque at 9.5 psi

on my run to do 14 psi at 3700 rpm i had to cut it off because i was going lean on my small injectors at that point i hit 2400 rpm to go so my conclusion is it will hit close to 200whp 220 torque at 14-15 psi

NOW look on different turbos you can hit 10 horse more at the same boost level so at 15psi on a bigger turbo like t3 60 trim etc him could be close to 210-220 whp

now you want a 1/4 mile slip i can get one from psi racing but its 7afte in a 90's corolla body so its lighter and it did a 14.4 pass

Now you guys can go on and yell at each other about who won but a 7afte is not a super motor but is a quick car at 10-15 psi and alot of fun to drive

so does anyone want to call BS on me??

This post has been edited by nik: Jul 12, 2005 - 4:48 PM

[bloodrain]

http://www.fast-autos.net/porsche/03porscheboxsters.html

theres a boxster S stats. I'd still put my money on the porsche mainly b/c they are sexy ^_^

[playr158]

porsche is nasty = poor ****

[drnovascotia]

There you go, I see 170hp . . not this 250 he's claming
t3 would make your spool slooooow,

Thats what I would expect, and bet that turbo spools quick and gets full boost by 3500, It'd be good out of the gate. . .like I said not downplaying it at all

your numbers seem right to me. And i'm not trying to call anyone out, but I don't want people thinking turboing a 100hp engine will smoke a porsche. . . .

Thanks for the info!

Dr.

[playr158]

see there you are again
"t3 would make your spool slooooow"

thats not true....a T3 can spoll rather quick on a 7afe

and yes you can turn a 7afe into a porsche beater just not a gt2 or anything crazy like