Bull****, F'n COVT, yeah i'm really p***ed Options

[darksecret]

Alright I spent 7 hours at Lansboro max security for testing and an interview last week, we get told that guards never get personnal with prisoners or accept bribes, then we are given an 83 question test that all the answers but one look right, and I still failed, we also got the adult education test, but I aced it and aced the interview. What kind of crap institute is going to ask 83 questions on something that nobody has access to studying even the military gave us a book to look through before testing, I guess our states' prisons are run by the best guessers huh. BTW the questions were stuff like which group of inmates look suspicious? A. B. C. D., hell all but the group playing cards did.

[amysmojo]

....dumB! you should have had a monkey take the test for you!

when my bro was "interviewed" to work @ Verizon a few months ago...the first thing they did was give him some kind of random computer test then told him "you failed the test & we cant tell you who what when where or why but you can try & take it again in 6 months" what kind of BS is that????

[Rjb23]

Its a test to see how consistent you are in your decision making. Alot of places use them where I used to work at they used to give them to people who applied for supervisor positions.

[darksecret]

Yeah I would say I was consistant, hell every question had "write bad conduct report" as one of the answers, I won't write a BCR for an inmate wanting to clean up a spill I caused even if he was sucking up (that was a question), maybe i'll just use that as the answer next time just for kicks.

[forkee]

I work at verizon. I aced the universal test we had to take. Out of the 40 people that took it, only 8 passed and I got the highest score. Honestly it had to had been aimed at a 3rd grade level though. It had simple math equations, compare 2 addresses or names and say whether they are a)identical or b)different. And a spelling section that asked if the word was spelled correctly. Words like relief, street, anchor. Simple ****, right? I dunno where the hell the other 32 idiots came from but it was sad.....

[Andason]

Alright I spent 7 hours at Lansboro max security for testing and an interview last week, we get told that guards never get personnal with prisoners or accept bribes, then we are given an 83 question test that all the answers but one look right, and I still failed, we also got the adult education test, but I aced it and aced the interview. What kind of crap institute is going to ask 83 questions on something that nobody has access to studying even the military gave us a book to look through before testing, I guess our states' prisons are run by the best guessers huh. BTW the questions were stuff like which group of inmates look suspicious? A. B. C. D., hell all but the group playing cards did.
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Well well well... i bet you wish you had a CJ background instead of a computer background at this moment. I know for a fact I could ace it.

[darksecret]

Yeah this was random questions based on what the inmate was thinking mostly, i'm not a friggin criminal pshycologist, NC gets stuck with all the crappiest test, or driver's test in one of the hardest in the country, school systems are up there on difficulty (the wealthier the students parents are the harder the school, trust I went to both types), emissions and traffic laws are one notch under Cali, and state employment test seem rediculous, we could be called Little Cali if it weren't for the crappy weather and retirement beaches (seriously NC doesn't have a single "party beach").

[darksecret]

Haha, what does criminal justice have anything to do with it, it was all gussing. I could see you maybe passing if it was about why the criminal was in or something, but it was suppose to be a judgement test yet only one answer was right, I mean here is a question from it that I can remember, "A prisoner has a finals and is only given a short amount of time to eat, he breaks in line because if he had to wait he would not make it to the testing on time what do you do"

A. Let the other inmates take care of it
B. tell the inmate to move to the back of the line
C. ask your supervisor for assistance
D. remove the prisoner from the line and write a bad conduct report

It seems simple enough doesn't it, that isn't word for word but it's close. Don't ask me the answer I voted for supervisor simply because if he was late then he would be pissed at me and i'm not taking a shank in the back because some prisoner has to wait another couple of months to take a test, unlikely but possible, BTW you've been in college how long, I got to see a 30 second long clip.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jul 5, 2005 - 4:58 PM

[forkee]

I would pick A. Let them deal with their own problems. I don't see how he would get mad at you if u don't do anything. How would u kno about their testing anyways. If u choose b and d, he'll definately get mad. C, ur supervisor will get mad because u bothered him with a stupid situation in the first place.

Also u gotta remember, its just an entrance exam, give em the answers they're looking for just to get urself in the door. U don't neccessarily have to stick to it. I remember when disney asked me if I was ok with working new years eve night and I said yes (because I knew this was a crucial question). Then it came and I called out, hahah. Hey at least I got the job, right?

This post has been edited by forkee: Jul 5, 2005 - 6:55 PM

[Andason]

the correct one is b.

a. is prison justice.
b. is the correct way. teach them life skills. ill miss a meal if its really important to me to take a test.
c. what is your supervisor going to do that you cant?
d. he doesnt deserve this. he didnt act out or anything

[darksecret]

Like I said you got a few that could be correct, B. and C are most logical, but one thing I learned with government jobs, if you are on the bottom of the totem pole you have no real authority, what if I made the prisoner move to the back of the line and if he is a hard ass with a lot of friends (actually very possible at Lanesboro) I wont make it very long, if I tell my supervisor then there are two people involved, plus the supervisor has the authority to allow the prisoner a cut in the line, it didn't specify if he was late it just gave a bunch of crappy questions with crappy answers. If they were more of a discussion question or had only one possible right answer I would have aced it.

[Andason]

i think you've been watching too much oz.

why wouldnt the guys shank the prison supervisor then? you have control over the prisoners when you are a CO.

also, statistically you are less likely to experience a violent act in the outside world than you are in prison. id imagine some degree of underreporting here though.

the whole "goal" of the corrections system is to teach prisoners responciblities and life skills so they dont need someone to hold their hand when they are free. it isn't proper to budge in line in life, regardless of your hurry. i think anyone who has attended school has skipped a meal for academic reasons (i had a whole semester where i didnt get to eat dinner).


This post has been edited by Andason: Jul 6, 2005 - 4:13 PM

[darksecret]

Yeah it's unlikely but guards get put into the hospital all the time, why do you think the workers comp and medical are so good, it was just a possibilty anyways, all I was saying is that B. and C. are both good answers so why give a test prior to training that has to do with stuff you'll learn during training unless it's just an apptitude test, the military doesn't do it (they do a PFT just to see if you can run a without dying but you spend time training in DEP for that), the postal service doesn't either so why should the prison system.

[darksecret]

You ever hear of Porter vs. Nussle, that is the crap that CO's deal with so you can't say that the prison system is even close to the real world.

[Andason]

Yeah it's unlikely but guards get put into the hospital all the time, why do you think the workers comp and medical are so good,

that depends where the prison is. some are privately owned and some are public. the public ones will have government worker insurance/benefits. i fall under government benefits because my dad works for a local university and it is one of the best insurances out there... and i know because i work in insurance at a hospital. i could go into depth more, but this is just one part of it. what about gas station clerks? they are up there in the most dangerous jobs right next to police... etc.

it was just a possibilty anyways, all I was saying is that B. and C. are both good answers so why give a test prior to training that has to do with stuff you'll learn during training unless it's just an apptitude test, the military doesn't do it (they do a PFT just to see if you can run a without dying but you spend time training in DEP for that), the postal service doesn't either so why should the prison system.
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doesnt the military have a test to see where you could possibly go? like you take a test and if you are interested in being a pilot and you do bad your only option is the infantry? something along those lines?

[WannabeGT4]

ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery)

[creis]

If I was a prison worker, I'ed be passing out toothbrush shank's all day long "good habbits guys, clean your problems away, when they ant exspecting it.." specialy in MAX, they deserve to get there a$$es kicked and pounded.

and A is the choice you should take, how would I know the just punishment for that, only the other inmates would know how un-just it was to them. plus they get 3 meals a day I dont have time to get 3 meals and I'm ok, they should have just skipped lunch and taken the test.

but always remember on tests and crap tell them what they want to hear not whats right or what you know.

This post has been edited by creis: Jul 6, 2005 - 10:17 PM

[darksecret]

ASVAB is sort of an apptitude, i've never met someone who failed it, but my MOS was 3043 Supply Operations and Admin Clerk, basically I sat behind a computer for the first 3 months of service then I got promoted and got to sit behind a 240G 7.62mm machine gun and run a fireteam, I thought the higher up you went the less work you did, that friggin gun weighs 40 lbs. and the A-bag is about 35lbs. (I sometimes got a gunners assistant to carry it).

[Andason]

ASVAB is sort of an apptitude, i've never met someone who failed it, but my MOS was 3043 Supply Operations and Admin Clerk, basically I sat behind a computer for the first 3 months of service then I got promoted and got  to sit behind a 240G 7.62mm machine gun and run a fireteam, I thought the higher up you went the less work you did, that friggin gun weighs 40 lbs. and the A-bag is about 35lbs. (I sometimes got a gunners assistant to carry it).
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haha yeah my buddy in iraq gets the fun job of carrying around the saw

[darksecret]

The saw is fun you can shoot it standing up, we use to have contest on who could shoot the 240 and still stand, all it took was one round to put the biggest guys down.