Leaf Blower on Dyno Options

[Drew-887]

Check this video out it pretty cool and kinda funny.

http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?f...FD-A1AD23CA9564

[Consynx]

that's awesome...lol
just blow some air in there, then blow some NOS in

[yarik83]

well it is kind of like a turbo.. except less high tech. I am very impressed with the hp increase... average 200mph blower costs what? like 100 bucks... have the system hooked up:

electric blower, powered by 12v, converted to 110.. mounted somewhere under the hood... pop a hole in the hood for the blower, hook everything up and have double air intake. regular for street riding and that special power upgrade activated by a lever or something...

the only question is .. how safe is it for the engine?

final result.. +15hp without nos for no more than 250 bucks

[Cutrara]

well it is kind of like a turbo.. except less high tech. I am very impressed with the hp increase... average 200mph blower costs what? like 100 bucks... have the system hooked up:

electric blower, powered by 12v, converted to 110.. mounted somewhere under the hood... pop a hole in the hood for the blower, hook everything up and have double air intake. regular for street riding and that special power upgrade activated by a lever or something...

the only question is .. how safe is it for the engine?

final result.. +15hp without nos for no more than 250 bucks
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lol, thats so ghetto.

[playr158]

aite i'm goin to do it...........end of story...i'll tell yall how it comes out

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

My uncle actually did this on his race car. He raced stock car. He won a lot with it too. I thought it was common knowledge that this actually worked. The only thing I would worry about is hitting to high boost with one of these things. You could easily set it up on a car for every day driving and hook it up to a full throttle nitrus switch for when you wanted that extra power. I think we'll see this pop up on here now, at least I hope to see it.

[HaRv3sTeR]

aite i'm goin to do it...........end of story...i'll tell yall how it comes out   
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keep us updated man

[presure2]

you guys have GOT to be kidding me, right?

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

you guys have GOT to be kidding me, right?
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Why? It'll work on a beater or just for fun. I wouldn't do this to a car that I really wanted to keep running right but it does work, and it works well for the price. We're talking maybe $70 for the blower, and maybe $20 for a filter or whatever, and possable $20 in piping. And those are high estimates. That's $110 for maybe 20hp. So, around 5.50 per hp. Pretty cheap.

[playr158]

dude manny you know my car.....it doesn't matter lol

[ArizonaRed]

i would think that it would hurt the engine because a turbo pushes according to the exhaust. what if you had the blower on full blast when you were hardly moving. the engine woulnt be taking all that air and the pressure may harm it. i might do it though, with a beater.

[presure2]

guys, you really have GOT TO BE KIDDING.
do you REALLLLLLY thing your gonna get 20hp outta this thing???
comeon, lets walk on back to reality land, here.
lol
this thing is such a joke, its like the biggest ricer mod on the planet...right up there with type R emblems, and fart can exhausts..IMO

[Hanyo]

guys, you really have GOT TO BE KIDDING.
do you REALLLLLLY thing your gonna get 20hp outta this thing???
comeon, lets walk on back to reality land, here.
lol
this thing is such a joke, its like the biggest ricer mod on the planet...right up there with type R emblems, and fart can exhausts..IMO
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DENIAL STAGE!!!!


hahah j/k

hmm maybe if you install it on a turbo car, you can get rid of the turbo lag. You should try it out pressure2.

[presure2]

hmm maybe if you install it on a turbo car, you can get rid of the turbo lag. You should try it out pressure2

i think NOT.
lag? bwahahaha

[darksecret]

If you were to rig this up all you need is an exhaust valve or basically a wastegate to push the excess air out when at idle, it would be cool to see what it can do but I wouldn't want to drive down the street sounding like a leaf blower, people would be running for cover.

[FallenHero]

Spraying nitrous into a leaf blower...

priceless.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

i would think that it would hurt the engine because a turbo pushes according to the exhaust. what if you had the blower on full blast when you were hardly moving. the engine woulnt be taking all that air and the pressure may harm it. i might do it though, with a beater.
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If you were to rig this up all you need is an exhaust valve or basically a wastegate to push the excess air out when at idle, it would be cool to see what it can do but I wouldn't want to drive down the street sounding like a leaf blower, people would be running for cover.
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Guys, this is why I say put in on a togel switch. You only turn it on at so many rmp. Seriously though, my uncle did do this to his stock car, and it actually gave him a pretty good edge. There's no way you'd get the same effects as a turbo though. You just couldn't unless you had one heck of a strong leaf blower. Or wate a second, 2 of them. Now there's a mixure to blow the motor.

[dustin15brown]

if ur gettin that much more hp, then i dont think it's "ricer" just keep ur hood closed... someone do it, dyno it and time the 60, 1/8, 1/4 before and after

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

if ur gettin that much more hp, then i dont think it's "ricer" just keep ur hood closed... someone do it, dyno it and time the 60, 1/8, 1/4 before and after
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Exactly, there is a difference between Ghetto and ricer. I think the term ricer should be banded from these forums by the way. Ghetto fabulouse. I think that's a song or something.

[jgreening]

if ur gettin that much more hp, then i dont think it's "ricer" just keep ur hood closed... someone do it, dyno it and time the 60, 1/8, 1/4 before and after
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Exactly, there is a difference between Ghetto and ricer. I think the term ricer should be banded from these forums by the way. Ghetto fabulouse. I think that's a song or something.
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IMO, the difference between Ghetto and Ricer is Ricer is something you shouldn't do because its looks tacky. Ghetto is something you shouldn't do because its the wrong way to modify or maintain your vehicle and can compromise vehicle performance or reliability. This ill-conceived idea is both.

[lagos]

i hope you guys have a long enough extension cord so that you can drive around town with that thing

dont forget to install your tornado too

This post has been edited by lagos: Sep 13, 2005 - 11:13 PM

[Hanyo]

IMO, the difference between Ghetto and Ricer is Ricer is something you shouldn't do because its looks tacky.  Ghetto is something you shouldn't do because its the wrong way to modify or maintain your vehicle and can compromise vehicle performance or reliability.  This ill-conceived idea is both.
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I agree with you.. Getto is like the use of duck tap to repair cars, scotch tape car alarm installs, that sort of thing.

Ricer is like installing a 6 inch exhaust on a luxury car, or installing something that affects the performance of the car in a negative way just to gain "cool points".

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Anyone notice how the people most against this are the guys with turbo's? Gelousy is a hard thing to over come. You guys just wish you thought of this before you spent all that money on a swap or turbo. lol

[SSJChar]

if i had a beatup, like almost dead, MR car like a MR2 or a fiero, id probably try this 'mod' for fun, itd probably be alot easier to do with those 2 cars because the bonnet is decently low, so you could put it on top, and its behind you too, so you can actually see where you're going. i wonder if you could rig a gas powered leafblower to your throttle cable and to your fuel tank.
as for ghetto and rice, i usually think ghetto is something done without quality, and rice is something that does next to nothing, and is mainly for looks.

[lagos]

putting a leaf blower on your car is ghetto AND rice... not to mention dumb

[FallenHero]

putting a leaf blower on your car is ghetto AND rice... not to mention dumb
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agreed guys.

[playr158]

Getto is like the use of duck tap to repair cars,

cough MAC MAC MAC ^^^^^^^^^^


havn't done this yet its raining.....and hehe i'll have a spare motor waiting after it blows the hell up


HI my name is playr and i'm addicted to stupid retarded ricer mods and leaf blowers...i like leaf blowers cause blowing is good!
thank you that is all.....

can i get 6gc plaque? honestly...biggest ricer award or sumthing?

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Maybe my definition of ricer is way off. This doesn't seem rice at all to me. Seriously, can we ban this word from the site? Make it like a curse word or something. It starts a little more trouble than it's worth I think.

Playr, I'd give you and award for biggest ricer on here any day. Glad to see your proud of it. It makes it somewhat cool for some reason.

I use duck tape all the time. Duck tap and zip ties. I not living on a high bugget here. I guess you could have called my old car the Impulse a ricer if you broaden the term like that. It had duck tape on it and zip ties. But, it also had a header with open exhaust, cams, pistons, ingectors, ecu upgrade, cai, complete gutted intior, exc. It was fast and all H. I bet it would have been called a ricer in a second. I called it a race car. It didn't have a leaf blower on it, but it was looked into for fun.

[darksecret]

Yeah a leaf blower is ghetto, but it works, plus you're talking what up to four psi of boost, IMO it would still sound funny going down the road but the fact is something so practical will give you horsepower and in the Celica that's difficult to do. I remember an episode of Mythbusters where they made a sealed container and used a leaf blower to mimic the pressure inside a skyscraper and it built about 4-5 psi so a quility blower could easily mimic the effect of a supercharger or turbo, only thing is having to relieve the pressure when the throttle is closed and build it back up when the throttle opens again.

[playr158]

Playr, I'd give you and award for biggest ricer on here any day. Glad to see your proud of it. It makes it somewhat cool for some reason.

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet ^^^^^

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Yeah a leaf blower is ghetto, but it works, plus you're talking what up to four psi of boost, IMO it would still sound funny going down the road but the fact is something so practical will give you horsepower and in the Celica that's difficult to do. I remember an episode of Mythbusters where they made a sealed container and used a leaf blower to mimic the pressure inside a skyscraper and it built about 4-5 psi so a quility blower could easily mimic the effect of a supercharger or turbo, only thing is having to relieve the pressure when the throttle is closed and build it back up when the throttle opens again.
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It is my belief that if you us a toggle or nitrus switch, you could make it work. You take off in first gear and hit second at about 3000 rpm flip the switch to turn it on, leave it on untill you've hit as fast as you need to go because rpms wouldn't drop to low between shifts. This would be for drag. I can see it working pretty easily for drag. For something like autox, I think it would be hard to make it work. You could use it in the strates. You could use this pretty much exactly like nitrous actually. You won't get as many hp out of it though. I'm sure that if you set it up right it would work good. I'm going to start a list of the stuff you would actually need. Anyone who wants to, please add or take away.

1. Modified Leaf Blower with hook up for output and a place for and intake
2. Filter
3. Converter for battery
4. One of those capaciter things people use on amplifiers
5. A little bit of piping
6. Thicker wire and toggle switch (personal preferance would be push button, cuts down on hitting it by mistake like a full throttle switch and adds ease instead of use instead of flip switch)

[Batman722]

OK guys enough. For someone to do this like you said I think only one person would give you a big thumbs up


push the button..."TURBO BOOST!!!"




is this really who you want to be ?

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Come on, it's all in good fun. Lets stop the negative opinions please. If you've got some helpful info on this, then post it. I've been reading about it. I don't have much interest in actually doing it, but it's a neat idea and I'd like to discuss it intelegently. Discussing putting a leaf blower on a car intelegently, LOL. Oh well, maybe simi intellegently. I'm thinking going the actual electric supercharger root might be better. I'm going to haff to see some real facts first though.

[Batman722]

realisticly, they way you have it is probably the only way it could work.

I can't believe I am actually think about how to do this...

1 hook up blower to intake
you still need to have your intake free when you are not "blowing"

2 wire in a switch or push button for your "blow boost"
you need to be able to turn it on/off the blower when desired


wiring the blower itself would be easy with a converter. Just getting the piping from the blower to the intake and having the normal operating intake when not "blowing" would be the hardest parts.

guys, I will give any of you $50 if you get this installed on the street 100% and get a vid of the action.

good luck

[presure2]

there IS no such thing as a "well working leaf blower turbo" !!! comeon guys, snap back to REALITY.
do you guys ever stop and think about how hot the air will be coming outta that thing?
or fuel?
i mean, once you actually THINK about it, it really just tears the idea up in itself.
i shouldnt have to explain it.
i didnt even have to watch the video.

[darksecret]

BTW the shop that actually did that video is CP Racing of Charlotte, they are actually a very reputable shop but they specialize in Mustangs, they were doing that just to see what would happen.

[presure2]

BTW the shop that actually did that video is CP Racing of Charlotte, they are actually a very reputable shop but they specialize in Mustangs, they were doing that just to see what would happen.

that makes sense, and i can actually see someone doing that. for fun.
even THINKING of doing that as an actually power mod, IMO is just not good, period.

[lagos]

i cant belive you guys are really trying to have a discusion about this and trying to treat this as a legit way to modify your car. i think i just lost some respect for a few guys on here.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

My questions:
1. How big of a capacitor would you need?
2. Would it be easier to more beneficial to use some other electric motor set up?
3. Has anyone actually done this?
4. How much air does the 5s and 7a engines suck at full throttle and compare that to how much air a type of blower would put out?
5. Kind of the same as 4, but how much pressure can you actually generate with these things? Are there examples of electric fans making pressure in other cases?

[darksecret]

Well #1 and 2 IDK, #3 probably not, #4 you would need the flow test of a head and probably specs from the maker for the blower, #5 Mythbusters built about 4.5psi in a sealed chamber with a normal leaf blower and it wasn't even at full power.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Well #1 and 2 IDK, #3 probably not, #4 you would need the flow test of a head and probably specs from the maker for the blower, #5 Mythbusters built about 4.5psi in a sealed chamber with a normal leaf blower and it wasn't even at full power.
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About the mythbusters thing, I've seen were someone posted that somewere else. Was it you? I was reading on a forum some were where this guy was talking about using a custom setup with dual motors. I'll try to get some more info here about this junk. I've got way to much spanish to study tonight, so it'll be a bit before I can put some real effort into it.
Come to think of it, it would take one heck of an electric motor to equal the sucking force the engine has. We've all stuck our hands in vacume clears and felt how much the suck, but I've cranked my throttle and stuck my hand on the throttle body before. That is some serious sucking power. So, I've come to the conclusion that it will definately help. Anything to help equilize pressure will help, but will it push more than the car sucks. Short of getting actual flow numbers, this thread is losing weight fast.

[boosted_K2]

as long as the blower can force more air into the engine than the engine can originally pull AND sustain enough static pressure to hold the air in the intake at a higher pressure than the atmosphere you WILL see a gain, and an industrial leaf blower probably would do it. you guys have to stop calling BS on everything lol but in all honesty, who would really want to rig up a friggen leaf blower under their hood?

its called redneck engineering and though its redneck... it is applying basic principals, though i doubt they really took the time to figure out if the pressure would sustain and it would force enough air in before sayin "hey what would happen if..."

[jgreening]

as long as the blower can force more air into the engine than the engine can originally pull AND sustain enough static pressure to hold the air in the intake at a higher pressure than the atmosphere you WILL see a gain, and an industrial leaf blower probably would do it. you guys have to stop calling BS on everything lol but in all honesty, who would really want to rig up a friggen leaf blower under their hood?

its called redneck engineering and though its redneck... it is applying basic principals, though i doubt they really took the time to figure out if the pressure would sustain and it would force enough air in before sayin "hey what would happen if..."
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Nobody said it couldn't work - only that it wasn't wise nor worthy of serious consideration.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Hahahaha......I cant wait until somebody comes on here and puts up dyno proven gains of like 40 horsepower. THEN see how fast everyone tries it for themselves.

[Batman722]

"powered by John Deere"

neeto concept but in all reality please don't do it. This forum would loose respect from any tuner.

"those 6gc guys use leaf blowers to add HP, real men use turbos"

respect and credibility down the tubes.

[lagos]

it gaind 10hp on a dyno, on a civic si. on a celica, you are probably looking at about a 5hp gain. is that really worth all the crap you would get from having a leaf blower power your motor?

This post has been edited by lagos: Sep 16, 2005 - 11:04 PM

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Ok ok, on a Celica.....NO.

On a beater car.....yes, but just to try and even then its a maybe. It would still be good for laughs though.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I like how this post is going. People seem to actually be excepting it now. It seems to me that it's a consinsis that it will work, but cost effectiveness is the true issue here. I was reading a thread were a guy was talking about wired a control switch to his throttle so that the fans would spin faster as the throttle increased. I wouldn't what people thought about blowers when they first came out? I read in car and driver how the said "disk brakes are a passing fad, and will have a hard time ever competing with the tecnology of drums." I don't think the electice supercharger will be as big of developement, but it's still interesting to know these things. I really need to start posting links to things I read.

EDIT: Here's one. I'm only part of the way through it.
http://www.osti.gov/fcvt/deer2003/ShahedPa...#39;eturbo'

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Sep 17, 2005 - 2:10 AM

[lagos]

now you are starting to talk about electric turbos.... those are known not to work because the power drain on the car would be more then the electric turbo could spin.

the leaf blower in that video was running off its own power.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

now you are starting to talk about electric turbos.... those are known not to work because the power drain on the car would be more then the electric turbo could spin.

the leaf blower in that video was running off its own power.
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So, even if you could set up an extra battery, and a capaciter or something, this still couldn't work for something like drags? I don't know too much at all about electronics. I can wire them, but I'm not really good at the details.