Oct 4, 2005 - 7:33 AM
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I'm doing a paper for school, and now I'm really getting into it. It's about animal rights. I'm doing my paper about hunting. I'd actually like some feedback on it to maybe give me some more ideas?
What is your stance on hunting? Do you think it's humane? Are animals more humane than humans? Animals kill other animals the same reasons humans do. I actually hope to get some feedback from those who like to hunt. Why do you hunt? For the joy of the kill, for the sport, for the food? I'm actually really interested. I'm a southern girl, so I'm obviously for hunting. But I think slaughterhouses are inhumane. It really strikes a nerve with me how animals are practically tortured to death. I think that slaughterhouses should be regulated more. I was watching Buster on PBS. Um, I'm a kindergarten teacher so I'm pretty much forced to watch what my kids watch. Anyway on there they had a pig on a farm that they took to a fair for a contest. They raised this pig it's whole life. After this contest, they give the pig to the slaughterhouse with no emotion at all. I don't know.. maybe I'm too attached to my pets.. but I would never raise an animal just to send it away to get killed and eaten. I understand it's common practice.. but I would just shatter me if I did that. Well, anyway what do you think? About hunting & slaughterhouses in general? -------------------- |
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Oct 4, 2005 - 8:56 AM
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I am for Hunting, Mass Slaughter and Hunting should never be compared. The first Conservationists in this country were all hunters. I don't have time right now to go into this, but i shall later.
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Oct 4, 2005 - 9:17 AM
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QUOTE(Drocay @ Oct 4, 2005 - 9:56 AM) I am for Hunting, Mass Slaughter and Hunting should never be compared. The first Conservationists in this country were all hunters. I don't have time right now to go into this, but i shall later. [right][snapback]340949[/snapback][/right] i have to agree. -------------------- |
Oct 4, 2005 - 9:55 AM
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I used to hunt and my Uncle used to run a slaughter house so i've seen them both.. Theres really not any comparison.. hunting is far more ethical and respectful than what goes on in slaughter houses
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:09 AM
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Population control. If we didn't do it around here, everyone would be hitting deer left and right. Besides, I'm a big fan of venison jerky.
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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Being from Australia, we have strict gun laws around here. That doesn't stop the farmers' culling of rabbits (or shooting kangaroos sometimes), however. And rightfully so, like vangsta said, population control. They'd wreck havoc otherwise. Personally I'm pretty apathetic to hunting, since we're pretty sheltered from such practices in the city.
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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I think they're both okay. Some of what happens as a part of mass slaughter I do not agree with, like the way veal cattle are raised, but in general there's nothng immoral or unethical about it. People are animals. We kill to eat. I've seen some animals really suffer from hunting from not getting hit in the vitals or what not but it's still okay. I view it as a fact of life. I do believe in eating what you kill as opposed to hunting for sport.
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:25 AM
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I am not exactly comparing the two, I am just merely agreeing with one, and disagreeing with the other.
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:54 AM
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i honestly dont care either way. im not particularly opposed to hunting, but i wouldnt do it. i think its perfectly ok and natural if its regulated and tasteful. slaughterhouses are just a fact of life, we raise livestock as as a foodsource and thats the way it is. although it aint pretty, i dont believe the animals are physically tortured, maybe psychologically if thats what your trying to argue. but i dont know enough regarding actual practices to comment further.
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:56 AM
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i went hunting
you see i was in rhode island last weekend for the celica meet while iwas there i went zebra hunting and i actually found one....just ask streetzzzzzzking .......so we turned on the video camera to get my great action on film for proof. i even saw its stripes up close...and so i started around the bed of the hotel room where i saw it and then BOOM i hit that so hard it fell off the bed and onto the floor....screaming in victory i jumped up and down on the bed |
Oct 4, 2005 - 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Oct 4, 2005 - 12:09 PM) Population control. If we didn't do it around here, everyone would be hitting deer left and right. Besides, I'm a big fan of venison jerky. [right][snapback]341009[/snapback][/right] Took the words right out of my mouth, and DAMN i love venison. -------------------- Buy my Celica $2,500 - http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76562&st=0
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Oct 4, 2005 - 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 4, 2005 - 12:56 PM) i went hunting you see i was in rhode island last weekend for the celica meet while iwas there i went zebra hunting and i actually found one....just ask streetzzzzzzking .......so we turned on the video camera to get my great action on film for proof. i even saw its stripes up close...and so i started around the bed of the hotel room where i saw it and then BOOM i hit that so hard it fell off the bed and onto the floor....screaming in victory i jumped up and down on the bed [right][snapback]341024[/snapback][/right] So you ADMIT that you pushed me out of bed! aaaa ha! -------------------- Buy my Celica $2,500 - http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76562&st=0
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Oct 4, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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i didn't push.....it was more of a poke
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Oct 4, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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Oct 4, 2005 - 1:08 PM
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I think that some animals are more humane than humans. Take pigeons for an example. They only have one mate and that mate is with them untill they die and even after death they won't seek out another mate.
I would also argue that hunting is an OK sport. Would you like to be bitten by a posionous snake? I go fishing all the time and I see cotton mouths and wat not swimming in the water. I usually go for these animals with my hook and I do eventually end up catching them....and killing them. Lets put it this way. We kill, because its fun, removes the stresses and provides an instance pleasure not similar to sex. |
Oct 4, 2005 - 1:52 PM
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i disagree with soulshadow....sport killing is sick, retarded and horrible lets kill you for fun!
but hunting if you will eat it is all good because it serves a purpose |
Oct 4, 2005 - 2:11 PM
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wat fun or joy do u get from killing a harmless deer or rabbit? or ne thing.. retarded.. u got balls to pick up a gun ? then join the army and go to iraq, see how much balls u got lol , and it is immoral fools. killing when ur starving is a diff story
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Oct 4, 2005 - 5:33 PM
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I love animals, that's why I love to eat them.
Hunt them, breed them to be killed, whatever, I will consume them. back on topic, hunting is fine, whatever. If the animal is smart, it won't get killed. -------------------- |
Oct 4, 2005 - 5:41 PM
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I don't do hunting I don't own a gun but I would like to go hunting. It's easier to go down to the takeaways and get some chicken
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Oct 4, 2005 - 6:08 PM
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I'm for hunting with moderation for crowd control reasons. They would probably suffer more getting hit by my car than if I shot em. Animals raised for food are fine too. How many cows or pigs would be left in the world if they did'nt taste good?
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Oct 4, 2005 - 6:13 PM
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If god didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't of made them out of meat
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Oct 4, 2005 - 6:52 PM
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QUOTE(CoSo @ Oct 4, 2005 - 12:13 PM) Being from Australia, we have strict gun laws around here. That doesn't stop the farmers' culling of rabbits (or shooting kangaroos sometimes), however. And rightfully so, like vangsta said, population control. They'd wreck havoc otherwise. Personally I'm pretty apathetic to hunting, since we're pretty sheltered from such practices in the city. [right][snapback]341013[/snapback][/right] send the f*ckin kangroo's here to america, i'd love to chase them sons of bitchs around (i know that has nothing to do with hunting) QUOTE(Batman722 @ Oct 4, 2005 - 7:13 PM) If god didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't of made them out of meat [right][snapback]341183[/snapback][/right] lol well said, well said. im not really on either side of hunting or mass slaughter, because the simple fact of the matter is we are in a food chain. When you see the food chain, you dont think of how a cayote kills a rabit, the son of a bitch was hungry, so he ate him. Its just a giant food chain, thats all. -------------------- To live, is to suffer
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Oct 4, 2005 - 6:55 PM
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they purposely pump them with steriods n **** to get fat/bigger faster.. and breed them so they wouldnt be over populated by nature thats bull****
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Oct 4, 2005 - 7:15 PM
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Oct 4, 2005 - 8:45 PM
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QUOTE(SoundSlut_dotcom @ Oct 4, 2005 - 7:55 PM) they purposely pump them with steriods n **** to get fat/bigger faster.. and breed them so they wouldnt be over populated by nature thats bull**** one animal i dont mind eatin is a nice pussy ;D [right][snapback]341191[/snapback][/right]
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Oct 4, 2005 - 11:57 PM
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Oct 5, 2005 - 3:07 AM
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I would love to go to australia too and chase those bloody kangaroos and shoot those dingos.
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Oct 5, 2005 - 3:09 AM
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QUOTE one animal i dont mind eatin is a nice pussy ;D [right][snapback]341191[/snapback][/right] F*ck that ain't right wtf. This post has been edited by Celica_Fan: Oct 5, 2005 - 3:09 AM -------------------- Wanted White Or Silver Toyota Celica SS2 1998 Auto Sunroof, ABS 200 hp JDM Model
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Oct 5, 2005 - 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Celica_Fan @ Oct 5, 2005 - 1:09 AM) QUOTE one animal i dont mind eatin is a nice pussy ;D [right][snapback]341191[/snapback][/right] F*ck that ain't right wtf. [right][snapback]341371[/snapback][/right] wats this kid talking about? lol wat do u like? cock, a doodle doOo?llol -------------------- ![]() |
Oct 5, 2005 - 10:42 AM
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You eat cats SoundSlut?!
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Oct 5, 2005 - 12:03 PM
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I grew up right down the road from a slaughterhouse and have no problems with the way they conduct their business. It was and still is owned by one of my friends parents and I have seen all aspects of how they do everything. They did not and still don't torture the animals, they kill them instantly.
If you think it is inhumane, just remember that next time you pull into McDonalds or Taco Bell! As far as hunting, I'm all for it as long as you or somebody eats what you kill. I don't believe you should just kill something to hang its head above your fireplace while it's body rots out in a field. You kill it, you grill it! This post has been edited by gas65: Oct 5, 2005 - 12:05 PM |
Oct 5, 2005 - 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Oct 5, 2005 - 3:42 PM) You eat cats SoundSlut?! [right][snapback]341421[/snapback][/right] Lol smartass |
Oct 5, 2005 - 4:22 PM
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i haven't tried deer yet that would be yum.
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Oct 5, 2005 - 11:03 PM
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Oct 6, 2005 - 3:32 AM
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I eat meat, so it'd require an incredible level of hypocrisy to frown upon hunting.
However, as a contest against nature/yourself, I can respect bow hunters, and even more so those who go hunting with nothing but a knife. Guns are a bit too much of an advantage, particularly when combined with a tree-top blind and beer while you wait. Though I have to admire the guy with a .22 carbine going after the multi-ton moose. I figure the ethical line is the infliction of pain. Killing an animal, well, that's how you get meat. It's how the killing is done that matters. Put it this way, I prefer to believe what I eat was killed in the same manner a predator kills its dinner -- as quickly as possible. There's a reason why the most twisted killers we know all started with animal torture. |
Oct 6, 2005 - 6:37 AM
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Thanks guys. My paper is due tomorrow. Let me know if you want to read it.
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Oct 6, 2005 - 9:31 AM
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QUOTE(Galcobar @ Oct 6, 2005 - 1:32 AM) I I can respect bow hunters, and even more so those who go hunting with nothing but a knife. [right][snapback]341656[/snapback][/right] That's crazy, I've never heard of anyone going hunting with just a knife. How could you ever get close enough to kill anything? |
Oct 6, 2005 - 3:48 PM
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Sort of the point -- you have to be a good enough stalker. How do you think animals do it?
Most knife hunters, however, use it as a throwing weapon. The idea is that it's an even trade-off; our brains and a short ranged weapon instead of the reflexes and strength of a predator. |
Oct 6, 2005 - 4:24 PM
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I'm not a huge animal rights activisist or nothin but i think that hunting is TOTALLY wrong. Killing living things for fun should not be allowed, and if it is, then killing people should be legal as well. I dont buy into that "OVERPOPULATED" cr*p either (when it comes to bear or deer season). If that was the case, then should we go into overpopulated countries such as China or India and kill people to decrease the population? I dont buy into that. Whenever i see videos of hunters gettin mauled by lions, tigers, or whatever, i just sit there and laugh and wish i was there watchin it in person cuz i show no sympathy for them what so ever. I find it funny that laws in the US contradict themselves as you arent allowed to abuse pets at home, but its ok for u to shoot other animals? Such a load of sh** to me.
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Oct 6, 2005 - 4:59 PM
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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 6, 2005 - 2:24 PM) I'm not a huge animal rights activisist or nothin but i think that hunting is TOTALLY wrong. Killing living things for fun should not be allowed, and if it is, then killing people should be legal as well. I dont buy into that "OVERPOPULATED" cr*p either (when it comes to bear or deer season). If that was the case, then should we go into overpopulated countries such as China or India and kill people to decrease the population? I dont buy into that. Whenever i see videos of hunters gettin mauled by lions, tigers, or whatever, i just sit there and laugh and wish i was there watchin it in person cuz i show no sympathy for them what so ever. I find it funny that laws in the US contradict themselves as you arent allowed to abuse pets at home, but its ok for u to shoot other animals? Such a load of sh** to me. [right][snapback]341877[/snapback][/right] thank you ::applause:: -------------------- ![]() |
Oct 6, 2005 - 5:22 PM
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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 6, 2005 - 4:24 PM) I'm not a huge animal rights activisist or nothin but i think that hunting is TOTALLY wrong. Killing living things for fun should not be allowed, and if it is, then killing people should be legal as well. I dont buy into that "OVERPOPULATED" cr*p either (when it comes to bear or deer season). If that was the case, then should we go into overpopulated countries such as China or India and kill people to decrease the population? I dont buy into that. Whenever i see videos of hunters gettin mauled by lions, tigers, or whatever, i just sit there and laugh and wish i was there watchin it in person cuz i show no sympathy for them what so ever. I find it funny that laws in the US contradict themselves as you arent allowed to abuse pets at home, but its ok for u to shoot other animals? Such a load of sh** to me. [right][snapback]341877[/snapback][/right] What about mosquitos? If I kill a mosquito, am I a murderer? LOL. Regardless of the animal, surely you don't mean to suggest that killing animals is on the same moral plane as killing people...... Also, the overpopulation argument is not crap. I don't know if you live in an area with a lot of deer but I can tell you this: the annual population of deer is directly proportional to the number of traffic accidents (some involving serious injuries and death) involving deer. Also, they eat crops, new trees, and cause many other problems that hunters could tell you about. I am not a hunter but I think controlling these populations makes some sense. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
Oct 6, 2005 - 5:50 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 6, 2005 - 3:22 PM) QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 6, 2005 - 4:24 PM) I'm not a huge animal rights activisist or nothin but i think that hunting is TOTALLY wrong. Killing living things for fun should not be allowed, and if it is, then killing people should be legal as well. I dont buy into that "OVERPOPULATED" cr*p either (when it comes to bear or deer season). If that was the case, then should we go into overpopulated countries such as China or India and kill people to decrease the population? I dont buy into that. Whenever i see videos of hunters gettin mauled by lions, tigers, or whatever, i just sit there and laugh and wish i was there watchin it in person cuz i show no sympathy for them what so ever. I find it funny that laws in the US contradict themselves as you arent allowed to abuse pets at home, but its ok for u to shoot other animals? Such a load of sh** to me. [right][snapback]341877[/snapback][/right] What about mosquitos? If I kill a mosquito, am I a murderer? LOL. Regardless of the animal, surely you don't mean to suggest that killing animals is on the same moral plane as killing people...... Also, the overpopulation argument is not crap. I don't know if you live in an area with a lot of deer but I can tell you this: the annual population of deer is directly proportional to the number of traffic accidents (some involving serious injuries and death) involving deer. Also, they eat crops, new trees, and cause many other problems that hunters could tell you about. I am not a hunter but I think controlling these populations makes some sense. [right][snapback]341920[/snapback][/right] I live in the middle of the f*ckin woods. On the mountains in Northern NJ. I KNOW about Bears, foxes, wolves, deers, snakes and everything. Still doesnt give them the rights. Animals were here before we were, so its THEIR land that we invaded and decided to build roads on so u cant fault them for tryin to cross a road to get somewhere. I still consider it their land. Ive avoided MANY MANY deers in my life in the woods. Thats still no excuse. Controlling populations is just their way of giving hunters satisfaction. This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Oct 6, 2005 - 5:51 PM -------------------- Note to new members. Discussions such as the ones below are forbidden.
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Oct 6, 2005 - 8:39 PM
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Oct 7, 2005 - 12:35 AM
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listen just becuz PEOPLE say its ok. its not morally correct.. bottom line, for certain needs yes, but for fun.. thats bull.....
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Oct 7, 2005 - 12:37 AM
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obviously if ur stranded somewhere and need food and need to hunt...then obviously u need to hunt for neeed. But to hunt for "FUN" or as a sport...or to get rich off animal fur or whatever is totally unnecessary. i have VERY strong opinions on this topic and i think hunting as a sport should be illegal.
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Oct 7, 2005 - 12:52 AM
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Oct 7, 2005 - 2:08 AM
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give me a nice juicy steak
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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 6, 2005 - 2:24 PM) I'm not a huge animal rights activisist or nothin but i think that hunting is TOTALLY wrong. Killing living things for fun should not be allowed, and if it is, then killing people should be legal as well. I dont buy into that "OVERPOPULATED" cr*p either (when it comes to bear or deer season). If that was the case, then should we go into overpopulated countries such as China or India and kill people to decrease the population? I dont buy into that. Whenever i see videos of hunters gettin mauled by lions, tigers, or whatever, i just sit there and laugh and wish i was there watchin it in person cuz i show no sympathy for them what so ever. I find it funny that laws in the US contradict themselves as you arent allowed to abuse pets at home, but its ok for u to shoot other animals? Such a load of sh** to me. [right][snapback]341877[/snapback][/right] You need a hug... go hug a tree. Human beings and our ancestors have been killing, and have been killed by animals for millions of years. It's a part of the cycle of life and the food chain. Yeah, I think some people who hunt are morons, but the act of killing an animal is not wrong. Is a cougar that kills a deer a murderer? No. When my cat kills a bird, mouse, or chipmunk, is she a murderer? No. Killing an animal should never be compared to killing a human being. Human life is far more valuable than an animals. If you derive any pleasure out of watching a human being killed by anything, than you're a sick, sadistic person and just as bad those people you despise. There are many people who have different opinions than myself, but I would never laugh at them being killed, and they're entitled to their own opinion. I think hunting is okay, so I occasionally do it, and if you don't agree with it, then don't do it. But don't deny someone else's right to do it. |
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QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Oct 6, 2005 - 9:31 AM) QUOTE(Galcobar @ Oct 6, 2005 - 1:32 AM) I I can respect bow hunters, and even more so those who go hunting with nothing but a knife. [right][snapback]341656[/snapback][/right] That's crazy, I've never heard of anyone going hunting with just a knife. How could you ever get close enough to kill anything? [right][snapback]341697[/snapback][/right] I can go hunting with a fishing pole. These things are awesome! So far I have caught possum, ducks, squirrels, birds, fish, turtles, snakes and so much creatures in the watr and on LAND too!. My favorite hook= The treble hook the size of 2 half-dollar coins. |
Oct 7, 2005 - 1:47 PM
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hunting has paved the way for our modern society. You know why tigers don't think twice about killing? because they don't have PETA to fill their minds with propaganda.
Notice, when a hunter goes hunting, he doesn't grab the animal and slowely drown it in the nearest bit of water. It's almost always over quickly. Granted, some people might go overboard a bit (ala Ted Nugent) but without the hunting and klilling of animals, this great nation could never have been. |
Oct 7, 2005 - 4:07 PM
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couldnt be made w/o killing the indians either or enslaving africans.. tell me that was morally correct too?? please
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Oct 7, 2005 - 4:13 PM
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QUOTE(SoundSlut_dotcom @ Oct 7, 2005 - 2:07 PM) couldnt be made w/o killing the indians either or enslaving africans.. tell me that was morally correct too?? please [right][snapback]342277[/snapback][/right] wow, easy on the kool-aid. That distinction is so far off the mark of this conversation... it's not even remotely relevant. |
Oct 7, 2005 - 5:39 PM
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QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Oct 7, 2005 - 10:21 AM) QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 6, 2005 - 2:24 PM) I'm not a huge animal rights activisist or nothin but i think that hunting is TOTALLY wrong. Killing living things for fun should not be allowed, and if it is, then killing people should be legal as well. I dont buy into that "OVERPOPULATED" cr*p either (when it comes to bear or deer season). If that was the case, then should we go into overpopulated countries such as China or India and kill people to decrease the population? I dont buy into that. Whenever i see videos of hunters gettin mauled by lions, tigers, or whatever, i just sit there and laugh and wish i was there watchin it in person cuz i show no sympathy for them what so ever. I find it funny that laws in the US contradict themselves as you arent allowed to abuse pets at home, but its ok for u to shoot other animals? Such a load of sh** to me. [right][snapback]341877[/snapback][/right] You need a hug... go hug a tree. Human beings and our ancestors have been killing, and have been killed by animals for millions of years. It's a part of the cycle of life and the food chain. Yeah, I think some people who hunt are morons, but the act of killing an animal is not wrong. Is a cougar that kills a deer a murderer? No. When my cat kills a bird, mouse, or chipmunk, is she a murderer? No. Killing an animal should never be compared to killing a human being. Human life is far more valuable than an animals. If you derive any pleasure out of watching a human being killed by anything, than you're a sick, sadistic person and just as bad those people you despise. There are many people who have different opinions than myself, but I would never laugh at them being killed, and they're entitled to their own opinion. I think hunting is okay, so I occasionally do it, and if you don't agree with it, then don't do it. But don't deny someone else's right to do it. [right][snapback]342228[/snapback][/right] KILLIN FOR FOOOOOOOOD and CLOTHING. Not for fun. They had a NEEEEEEEEED to kill...a NEEEEEEEEED to hunt. Key word being NNEEEEEEEEED. NNEEEEEED...NEEEEEEED. Imma drill that into ur thick head. Cats kill birds cuz its their NATURAL NEEEEEED to kill for food. Animals killing animals is because of a NEEEEEEEEEED to eat. Thats completely different than hunting for fun. because they NEEEEEEEEEEED...NEEEEEEED...NEEEEEEEED to kill. Not for fun...but for NEEEEEEEED -------------------- Note to new members. Discussions such as the ones below are forbidden.
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Oct 7, 2005 - 6:16 PM
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Oct 7, 2005 - 8:11 PM
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I feed my cats. Sometimes they catch animals like bunnies and chipmunks and frogs and bring them up on the porch and just slap them around until they die. Then they don't eat them. Does that make them murderers? No. Even people who hunt for sport eat what they kill. I've never met a person who doesn't eat what they kill. Everyone NEEDS to eat. Just because a person can as easily go to a store to buy food doesn't make it wrong to go kill your own food.
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Oct 7, 2005 - 8:24 PM
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wow ur ignorant...an animals NATURAL INSTINCT does that. Thats the difference between an animal and a human. Obviously u have no common sense to figure that out. I guess u and a squirrel share the same size brain maybe but obviously u cant read between the lines. My point is that theres a difference between killing for NEEED. And killing for fun. If u NEED to kill for food and are desperate, then its ok, but to kill for fur, fun or any other reason than food is unnecessary. I guess i just had to say that out loud for u to comprehend?
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Oct 7, 2005 - 8:51 PM
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if there are some rabbits and they are being pests to farmers I say shoot the little b**tards they will be causing damage to the property and plants.
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QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Oct 7, 2005 - 6:51 PM) Maybe u should check out my first post. I don't hunt anymore but someone who never has spewing off about how dumb it is? I never wasted anything. Also I never called you names to express my point, I guess that shows ur maturity. I could go back and forth on this with you for hours, but I have to make dinner. Its people like you, peta members, that poison hunting dogs, thats real ethical. Also I think the paper is in. (original Post) [right][snapback]342343[/snapback][/right] ummm...was i talkin to u??? noo. Im a member of PETA? If i am, i dont know when i became a member...PETA people are retarded as well. Wow i bet u feel retarded now. ignorance is bliss. This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Oct 8, 2005 - 2:44 AM -------------------- Note to new members. Discussions such as the ones below are forbidden.
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Oct 8, 2005 - 4:07 AM
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I have a lot of fun with vegies.
I have no issues with eating meat, and I openly admit this to vegies. Most often they will attack me and ask wether I would butcher an animal myself.... My honest reply is that I have assisted my father in butcher a deer, twice. "But if dit makes you feel better both of the were road kill." - to my astonishment, this utterly repels them. I believed that this is the most humane method of eating meat, but there own prejudices cloud their judgement. It is not like there were killed for the enjoyment of the hunter. My father hunts every year, in fact he is moose hunting right now. I would somewhat enjoy hunting however I know there are many avid hunters who enjoy it more and given the limited number of animals needed for culling, I prefer to give the joy to those who enjoy it more than me. No issues here, it is part of nature. |
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QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Oct 7, 2005 - 6:11 PM) Sometimes they catch animals like bunnies and chipmunks and frogs and bring them up on the porch and just slap them around until they die. Then they don't eat them. Does that make them murderers? No. [right][snapback]342334[/snapback][/right] WHAT? LOL they just killed the thing lol -------------------- ![]() |
Oct 9, 2005 - 10:19 AM
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im gonna be the smarter and the bigger man and just walk away from the stupidity. i guess common sense isnt ur forte. bye
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Oct 9, 2005 - 3:15 PM
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Obiviously shogunkid, You don't all of what your against. Being a hunter and a conservationlist, The national wild life federation thrives off the sale of Hunting/fishing tags and licenses. With the sell of these permits,tags, and licenses they get the needed funding for research, restocking of wild life, Diease treatments/tracking and Habbitat control and maintaning.
Being from eastern kentucky, Two of those key things are habitat control, maintaining and reintroduction of wildlife. From 1988 to 1998 the sale of hunting permits Alone provided enough money for reintroduction of several species of wild life that were at one time common here. Now I know your going to say they get funding form tax dollars etc etc, And they do but surprisenly not enough, Because with buying out land for reserves and relocation *in this point i'll use elk* one single animal on average cost 12-15000 dollars in 6 months for up keep. That is a lot of money when you average in the fact they brought in 200 elk in a two year span. An animal that would have been native to here, If the boom of the coal civilizations in the late 1800-early 1900's had not driven them to the brink of extintson(SP). Now Once they are here what you do with a herd of 500 breeding elk, Now i don't know if you've ever seen a elk but a full grown male is around 1000 pounds and can be over 5 feet tall at the shoulder. They honestly cause a lot of destruction to land, And if they ever got into a farmers crops nothing would be left after one night. SO this is where population control comes in, They need to be regulated so that we don't have 100's of thousands roaming around, Hitting a deer with you car is one thing, but hitting a elk would be like hitting another car. Also it's a known fact that diease in these animals runs rampant, If one gets something *lime diease was a huge killer in our location deer population a few years ago* within a couple months it spreads throughout the herds and they die horrible deaths. Me being a hunter and a conservationlist, I'd rather you know that not every hunter out there hunts for pure sport. Yes i do find enjoyment out of being in the woods, I usually spend 4-5 months out of the year scouting, tracking, and looking for deer *the only animal i hunt btw* for a weeks worth of hunting in the fall. I don't trophy hunt, although i do take older deers and usually they have larger antlers. This will be my 19th year hunting *i'm only 25 btw* and i've only killed 2 deers in those 19 years. Every hunter i know carries the same beliefs that i do, Although I know there are man who don't, But i honestly believe they'll be the ones who ruin it for the ones who actually care about all the things that go into hunting. If more people would educate themselves on boths sides of the agurement we wouldn't have 99% of the bull**** that goes on in country/world. Btw peta seriously needs a wake up call, Of all the peta members i've met their nothing more than psychopaths without the ability to clearly think on their motives. This post has been edited by Einhander: Oct 9, 2005 - 3:18 PM |
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QUOTE(Einhander @ Oct 9, 2005 - 1:15 PM) Btw peta seriously needs a wake up call, Of all the peta members i've met their nothing more than psychopaths without the ability to clearly think on their motives. [right][snapback]342722[/snapback][/right] let's not stereotype. It's been covered in this very forum that extremists of any kind are morons, but that we cannot classify everyone in an organization based on the more vocal people who are likely to be morons. |
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I agree, Nor was i saying all. Thats why i clearly stated the ones i've met.
It did come off has a more biased/harsh statement than I had intended though. |
Oct 9, 2005 - 11:47 PM
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KILL KILL KILL then EAT EAT EAT
I am just going to eat my bucket of chicken ![]() ![]() OK, everyone stop this crap. We have heard all of the opinions about hunting and such. 4 pages of this is just stupid pointless bickering. hunting is bad hunting is good whatever, we all have opinions. Jen's original post was answered and now she has 4 pages of opinions and answers to her questions. There is no need for more of this. -------------------- |
Oct 10, 2005 - 8:54 AM
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Agree to Disagree?
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Oct 10, 2005 - 9:18 AM
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Slaughter of animals is fine in my book just as long as there is no severe tourturing of the animal.
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Oct 10, 2005 - 2:02 PM
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KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!
haha relax i dont care what you do. eat tofoe. drink soy, your making a difference..... .. so let me kill! -------------------- |
Oct 10, 2005 - 7:14 PM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Oct 10, 2005 - 12:47 AM) KILL KILL KILL then EAT EAT EAT I am just going to eat my bucket of chicken ![]() ![]() OK, everyone stop this crap. We have heard all of the opinions about hunting and such. 4 pages of this is just stupid pointless bickering. hunting is bad hunting is good whatever, we all have opinions. Jen's original post was answered and now she has 4 pages of opinions and answers to her questions. There is no need for more of this. [right][snapback]342899[/snapback][/right] ohhh wow, i <3 you Dustin, your nuts. -------------------- Buy my Celica $2,500 - http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76562&st=0
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Oct 12, 2005 - 1:21 AM
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drink soy and all drive around in prius's
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Oct 12, 2005 - 1:26 PM
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I can honestly say I've never met a hunter who DOESNT eat what he hunts.
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