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[Stipt]

Guys......I don't know how to drive a stick but I wanna learn. I wanna get a 3sgte with a manual conversion and was wondering what you guys think. Someone told me to sell my car and get a manual.....and that I might do (even though I just bought this car about two months ago) But if you guys think it would be better. Then please by all means let me know. Also....how much of a hassle is it to convert it from auto to manual?

[Supersprynt]

You've done step one, admitting it. 3sgte wont be itself w/o manual -

[pflau]

yep.. learn to drive a stick and you would be happy everytime you go driving!!!!!

[Stipt]

where could I go to learn to drive a stick? arcades? LoL

[coustoe]

find a friend with a stick, ask him if he will teach to drive one.

[Stipt]

I go to school and work all day...I don't have friends LoL! Acutally.....I take that back, a kid in my class is a car nut and is teaching me lil about cars. He has a suped up VW Jetta ROFL but it can truck. I can't remember if he said its auto or stick...I'll ask....If not though....where?!

[Mynzeyes]

don't learn on the 3sgte...that'd be baaaaad for clutches. . really the only way you can do it is to find someone w/ a nice little 4cyl car/truck w/ a 5spd. buuuuut, one thing, is that you need know that all 5spds are gonna drive differently, so that no matter what you learn on, something else is going to be different, sometimes drastically. .

-John-

[Stipt]

yeah my dad told me that one. He can drive a stick but since my mom doesn't like them the truck he got is a auto. BLEH...I won't dare train on a 3sgte!!!!! **** dat, I'll kill myself.....or even worse...I'll hurt the CAR! But uhhh......yeah I might be able to ask my Girlfriend's dad......he is a truck driver that owns his own business LOL LEARN TO DRIVE STICK ON A SEMI!!!!!!! w00t w00t!~

[Cody]

Just don't learn on a hydraulic clutch.

[95STCelica]

QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ May 6, 2003 - 8:15 PM)

don't learn on the 3sgte...that'd be baaaaad for clutches. . really the only way you can do it is to find someone w/ a nice little 4cyl car/truck w/ a 5spd. buuuuut, one thing, is that you need know that all 5spds are gonna drive differently, so that no matter what you learn on, something else is going to be different, sometimes drastically. . -John-

Yah John but once he gets the thing down it should be cake

This post has been edited by 95STCelica: May 6, 2003 - 9:49 PM

[boosted_K2]

QUOTE (Stipt @ May 6, 2003 - 7:10 PM)

where could I go to learn to drive a stick? arcades? LoL

either find a friend with a MT who will let you grind his gears for a few weeks (literally ) OR find an arcade with ferarri F355 challange, thats the CLOSEST game ive ever found to being a real stickshift and probably one of the most realistic racing games ive ever seen.

[95STCelica]

I just waited till i got my liscence and learned on my car. Made sure that noone was with me so people didn't see me stall out, how embarassing. No more though..

all pro

[Stipt]

I'll grind it, burn it, tear it all the shreds.......as long as I learn how to drive a stick, I don't give a damn! LoL! I mean....can I drive someone's car?

[95STCelica]

You can take the ride out to NJ if you want to borrow my car for a day or two, it'd be cool to finally chill with someone who is into 6th gen being as all i see is ugly or hot girls around here driving the new ones. ugh!

[Chrobis]

I just saw other people drive sticks all my life and when it was my turn I jsut got behind the wheel, killed it twice, and then off I went. I just knew how.... all i needed was to put what I knew and put it in practice. btw I did all that in a friends 9? nissan sentra se-r, all with the parking brake on! So i learned with heavy restriction so I dont get why yall make it seem like its rocket science...

[95STCelica]

It's scary when you actually think about trying to do all that while driving in traffic in the rain, things like that. When you tell people that once they get it it's like second nature, well that's hard to believe. Someone told me that once and i was like "your outta your mind" two days later i was never home

[Stipt]

I just can't wait to learn......I'm eager now....before I was kinda scared cuz I don't know anyone that drives them...but now I'm like fock it....it will own!

[HyperDeathKill]

I just took my first manual lessons on my friends crx. He uh... said he could feel a difference when I was done. But it's easy to stall the car. Just remeber you got nothing to prove.

Everyone falls their first time.

[ghostdog]

there is no way I would ever let anyone learn stick on my car. unless mb it was a hot girl, and she'd have to be pretty fine for my tranny to take that kind of abuse.

anyway, if you are serious try getting a rental or take a dealership car for a test drive. its good knowing you can beat the crap out of the car without consequences.

[Guenther13]

I learned on a Acura Integra and the clutch was pretty much the same. It only took me a week and two stalls to get down first gear. Now I drive stick everyday and wouldn't have it any other way.

[freestyler121]

I love the 3sss ferrari game, amazing, very realistic. but its not that hard if you knwo teh basics, its just once you knwo it practice, i would seriosuly go and try it alone, cause people can get frustrated if its there car and your grinding gears and burning the clutch

[Benevolence]

Took me a week (couple hours each day) to feel confident driving a 5 speed (learned on a 85 civic), unless I move to LA or NY all the cars Ill be getting for the rest of my will be manual. I only let one novice drive my celica (my cousin, he loves cars and was goin into the navy so i said hell with it)... I almost had a heart attack as he drove that car but after about 20 minutes he was doing quite well just have to understand how a manual transmission works and get a feel for it. Heres an excellent article you should read too

http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/techcente...29/article.html

[Chrobis]

QUOTE (Benevolence @ May 7, 2003 - 12:20 AM)

http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/techcente...29/article.html

I'm confused....

[CelicaGoddess]

I learned on my dad's miata. I had no choice but to drive a stick cuz all my parents cars are sticks except the minivan and I ain't drivin that! So I've hardly ever driven an automatic. I wouldn't drive on any road that I would have to stop on a hill for like a month!!! That was the only hard part for me!

GOOD LUCK!!!

[Guest_Jason_*]

I learned on my friends 300ZXTT (reason why I wanted one so long ago). Then I bought my 1992 Integra GS-R and that was Manual, well I blew that up a year later but not due to my driving, well I guess it kinda was after the accident, I shouldn't have redlined it in a race after I wrecked it... ANYWAYS! Your going to bring me memories of a car that actually did the 1/4 miles in under 20 min. Ok so.. now I have an Automatic Celica ST, and I haven't driven stick in probably 2 years or so, except for the occasional driving a friends car, so i'm scared to get my Celica back with a 4AGZE & LSD 5 Speed...

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Yeah, all the vehicles in my family are stick except my moms van......lol......so i learned on my dad's 86 mazda pickup It might be a little intimidating at first, but if you watch the way someone shifts cafrefully you can get the hang of it pretty easily as long as youre smooth with it. My 1st and 2nd gears still feel pretty touchy after driving stick for almost a year and a half now......i dunno if anyone else has this problem, but overall stick isnt too hard, the more you do it, the easier it is

[pflau]

QUOTE (Stipt @ May 6, 2003 - 8:02 PM)

I just can't wait to learn......I'm eager now....before I was kinda scared cuz I don't know anyone that drives them...but now I'm like fock it....it will own!

YO LISTEN UP!!!!!

just think about it.. in europe most of the cars are stick shift.. and OLD WOMEN have been driving them for DECADES. and in some places, you CAN'T GET A LICENSE if YOU CAN'T DRIVE STICK!!!

if old women can do it.. so can you!!!!

[Stipt]

LoL! thanks for the......inspiration....

[pflau]

ok, you gotta learn to drive stick.. whenever I see someone driving a sports car or even a sporty car and I see that 'R N D 1 2' gate I say to myself.. 'ah! another poser' so where are some pointers:

1) use a light right foot.. that's right. you have to unlearn your right foot. an automatic transmission is like a rubberband.. your engine is connected to the drive tran through liquid.. its like turbo lag in first gear. but a manual there's a hard link between the engine and the drive tran so you can literally jerk your car around at 5mph with the gas. the first time you drive a stick you would be like wtf why is the gas so touchy.. well the gas is not touchy.. its because you're so used to the rubberband gas response of an automatic that you think its touchy.. so UNLEARN your right foot and develop a really soft touch on the gas or you'd be jerkying your car around.

2) think of the clutch as the brake working backward because it is what it is. when you brake the brake graps the disc and the car stop. when you let up the clutch the clutch graps the drive tran to the engine fly wheel and the car go. remember how you brake... YOU SLOWLY PRESS DOWN ON THE BRAKE UNTIL THE CAR COMES TO ALMOST A COMPLETE STOP AND THEN PRESS THE BRAKE DOWN ALL THE WAY AND THAT'S HOW YOU USE THE CLUTCH!!! you let up the clutch half-way until you feel the car in full go meaning the engine power is almost 100% transmitted to the drive tran and THEN AND ONLY THEN do you let the clutch up all the way.

3) stalling is caused by NOT ENOUGH GAS.. you have to use your very light foot to gas the engine up to about 1500rpm before the engine have enough power to move the drive tran while the clutch is only half up.. you CAN'T GET GOING WITH THE ENGINE ON IDLE.. well you can but it'll take FOREVER.. so give it some gas and remember you DO NOT LET THE CLUTCH UP ALL THE WAY until you sense the car is moving along.

4) uphill start is the most stressful.. especially at a red light when there are cars right behind you.. hope you dont live in san fran.. the trick is again think of the clutch as the brake working backward.. if the brake can stop the car on an uphill.. wouldnt you think that the clutch can move the car going uphill??? the trick is to GAS THE ENGINE MORE while letting up the clutch half way so the car would not roll back. of course you need to switch your foot from the brake to the gas super quick while letting up the clutch to CATCH the drive tran before the car can start rolling back.

5) I think many people scared of stick shifts because they think the clutch is like a "disconnect" between the engine and the drive tran that they have to constantly manage.. while an automatic is like always connected so you feel much more secured. this is WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! have you ever felt insecured about your brakes?? a clutch is a BRAKE working BACKWARD!!! if you can use your brakes you can use the clutch.

6) it is very important that you learn to drive a stick now and get a stick car while youre single because I heard that once you get married you can forget about it!!!



This post has been edited by pflau: May 8, 2003 - 12:33 AM